Alexander Shorokhoff Vintage 7 & Nivada Grenchen Lagon Stolen? Watch Review.
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- čas přidán 8. 12. 2022
- Shipping watches normally is not very risky. The loss rate of the big carriers like DHL is close to zero. But with some bad luck you may find your parcel empty, the watch stolen. Exactly this happens here.
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Last week, Stowa might have had an even worse week. I was shown a screenshot from their newsletter warning of stolen merchandise ... items from both current inventory and their museum (going back to the 1930s) were taken from the Engelsbrand facility. No mention of it on their site, however.
That happened to me several times, but it was around 500€ and DHL done nothing as well. Thanks Tim for the video.
Hope your week gets better Tim, you're good chap.
There seems to be a rash of watch thefts in Germany this month. I just an email from Stowa claiming their production building was broken into.
cut/paste excerpt from the email:
"During the course of the night from Wednesday to Thursday our production building in Engelsbrand including the museum was broken into and numerous current watches, movements as well as historic (gold) watches from the 30`s until 70`s were stolen.
The damage cannot yet be precisely quantified, but is probably in the high six-figure range. Even worse than the material value, is the ideal value of very seldom and historic Stowa watches, amongst them the historic Marine pocket watch.
Please be cautious and do not purchase any current or historic Stowa watches without the original documents and packing"
Hello, I'm glad to hear you did not have both watches stolen! Better than initially thought!
Great review of the Alexander Shorokoff. I have never heard of them but I was stunned at the finishing of the watch for ~$1500 USD!
Ugh! A lesson learned I guess. But it doesn't inspire confidence on those employees with whom we entrust our valuables. Fun fact, when the Hope Diamond was sent to the Smithsonian, it was sent via US Mail as thar0t was the safest method of transport at the time. Times change.
Love your channel, your music and your inimitable class and style. Happy holidays!
Thank you very much, happy holidays to you too!
Remember, it’s Christmas season…..many courier companies or postal services are using temp and seasonal workers, those ppl are for quick money…..they don’t really care that much.
USPS is still extremely safe.
as some one who has worked inthe the parcel industry its pretty easy to guess the contents of a package by its size and weight it becomes intuitive , also small packages can be hidden inside pockets and coats the lowlife then goes on a toilet break (were security cameras are not allowed ) opens it steals the contents reseals it then puts the empty package back in the system i would reccomend that you use a box half the size of a shoebox at the very least ' xmas is the worst time as casual labour is used and no vetting takes place
I did post this under the other video too. Stowa also had a break in, historic and new watches with an estimated six figure valie got stolen too. They just sent out a newsletter about this, warning from buying used Stowa watches without Box and Paper or at least some form of authentification of its legality.
Woof - I still can feel the relief when I finally found the watch inside the package at the end :-) Glad that at least the Alexander Shorokhoff watch is safe and not stolen. Sorry to Tim for freightening him - I should have looked better inside the package at the start :-) Go on with the cool videos Tim - lots of good experiences will follow now! Julian
Interesting watch that Shorokhoff.
It's a bad time when we can't trust the mail.
I temped for Royal Mail (UK) a couple of times and they gave us a whole spiel about how, legally speaking, the mail belongs to the monarch while its in transit through the system (or something like that) and it's a huge crime (imprisonable offence) to interfere with it. It could have been a bunch of BS ('belonging to the monarch' - this was after the privatisation) I don't know but the point is, we were read the riot act so to speak. I wonder if DHL and the rest are as dilligent?
Thank God one of them that got through at least.
I cannot believe DHL doesn't offer insurance! And I cannot believe they proceeded with the transaction without the ability to give you a receipt! I'm always a bit shocked when Germany is found wanting. 🙂
Anyway, hope your weekend is better than your week.
Tim, you need reminding that underneath these issues, one of the causes is the success of your CZcams channel. Your viewers appreciate this and what you do, as do all of the people prepared to send you watches.
All the best for a good weekend.
Thank you very much for the warm comment.
Best of luck in recovering the watch. I like how you described the dial of this one as resembling the Batman logo. It's a beautiful watch and looks like your style, kind of like your vintage Oris.
Happy the second watch arrived safe n sound!!.
DHL is terrible... I had an international parcel passed through Germany few months ago and it was lost inside Germany so I opened and inquiry to find out its whereabouts. They replied me back for that inquiry 5 months later!!
Luckily my parcel appeared back again after 2 months of time but honestly their customer service is one of the worst.
I hope you will able to find that watch
Very cute watch, like an interrupted burger dial.....the utter lack of lume is a bit distracting, people go "oh thats the vintage style" but thats true for only very cheap pieces, the misaligned date is also a concern, still very pretty tho.
So sorry to hear this news! I hope this watch is found and returned. Excellent indeed how this was handled. Wishing you well!
Sorry to hear about all the hastle Tim - Please keep going and have a Happy Christmas! Best wishes Noel
Thank you and Happy Christmas!
2 handsome watches. Hope the missing one is found. Thank you for this great channel.
Thank you for watching.
Thank goodness it wasn't both. Very attractive watch. Thanks for all you do Tim
Things happen Tim you did the honorable thing by reimbursing
I had the impression that Germany was the kind of country that always did things precisely. Times are changing everywhere it seems. Royal Mail are reliable in UK but if they wouldn't insure my goods I'd find another courier. I hope things go better going forward.
It's all about money. They know every person who touches every package. They 100% know who could have stolen your package, but they won't investigate because it costs them money and what are you going to do to them.
Crazy stuff Tim... a stressful week!
Not a fan of DHL myself...received damaged artwork from AUS,
earlier this year!
Rough week. Hopefully your holiday season gets better.
Take care and Happy Holidays.
Thank you, happy holiday to you too.
Plenty of stories of Post couriers stealing packages for this Christmas season.
I know 2 stories, mostly cause door drop- off was selected. In one case the guy opened the door around 1 minute after the guy ringed the door, to see the courier get in the car and leave quickly. Called Hermes support (the very minute he opened the door, to hold the line for 20 minutes) , and the first one told him it must be a mistake and that they contacted the courier and it will be delivered the next day (it wasn't ) , the second one told him directly it's his fault and there's nothing to do, 'nothing to do' as in 'you have it and just want a refund' . Only the third (1 day later) registered a complaint, and told him there was nothing in the system from the previous two. The company that sold him the stuff told him 'no refund, that is the risk' .
All Couriers hire seasonal workers for Holidays, and apparently German ones went like Wagner, to search for them in prisons, but Hermes seems to also have their customer support complicit.
Damn, this is my absolute nightmare. Had a similar situation with a package to Italy but thankfully everything went well. With 25 pieces made and a thief probably unaware of the workings of the watch world it may pop up ahortly on ebay or on Kleinanzeigen. As I am looking for a Nivada anyway I will keep my eyes peeled…
Thank you.
I can assure everybody that Julian Kampmann is an extraordinary guy. recommend as top seller in Germany his professionalism and looking after you and keeping contact with you. Bravo Julian
Sorry to hear you had a bad week, but glad at least one of the watches arrived. Definitely a lesson to take insurance on the package, at least for the most you can insure a domestically shipped watch. At least it could offset the total you'd need to repay. Hope next week is better!
Sorry to hear, and wow, is DHL shipping from Germany really that risky these days? I'm considering buying a Dekla in the near year and now am a bit worried/concerned.
I was very relieved there have not been two thefts but I still feel for you and the stress it has all caused. May be worth considering the insurance in the future. Like you I find the Shokoroffs typically appreciable yet too busy or simply too outlandish. This is classy and yet I'm still not sure it would be for me, but I'd like to try a Shorokhoff in the future. I have a feeling in the metal it might win me over.
I like your channel! I hope the stolen watch gets recovered.
Thank you.
At least the second watch was okay!
This week was terrible for me also,my wife got corona and few days later was my turn. I hate wend people try to "surf"on others talent and work.Wish you better times Tim.
Get well soon, you and your wife. We had covid here too but kind of lucky, only with mild symptoms.
Tim: The Shorokhoff looks great on your wrist. However, on my 8 inch wrist the watch would look like a dime. We'll keep an eye on your stolen watch. Good luck.
That is indeed an attractive watch that sings its own song.
Movement from 1960s with modifications and new case? Isn't that considered frankenwatch?
Really nice!
Bloody bad luck!🤨
i have 2 incoming watches from abroad and i'm hoping they'll arrive safely where i'm at. i won't mind if there will be delays considering the present circumstances but no thievery pls
A very interesting watch . Very attractive . I have lookred at it for a bit. I see of course the batman thing. It has a very 60's ethic derivative but unique .
But all pointless as it is sold out as the maker must have expected . 25 pieces . Income E30,000. Why ? I dont understand the economics of these releases. Maybe it is not about seling these watches but about building a brand so can sell more of another of their watches. I do not understand that strategy either.
You made a classic sell it in its hundreds and maybe thousands.
Excellent video as always Tim. Excellent watch but in my opinion a seriously compromised company . Richard
Amended : Sometimes I come across as a complete Grouch. So what am I missing? A watch company releases an extrordinarily interesting watch at a price that his high ( for many ) but attainable also ( for many ) but no one can buy it. Why bother?
Second Ammendment . It's like a kid turning up at school showing his or her class mates their school bag packed full of delicious sweets and saying not for you and wondering how at break time they ended up face down in the toilet with a turkish delight stuck up their jaksie !
Third amendment. Keep the faith Tim . Keep on keeping on.
So at the beginning of the video you said watches cant be insured under a certain price. Then you said that you didnt pay for insurance because it would have cost extra 30 euros. So is it possible to insure watches or not? Or was it because the 2nd watch was over 100o euros?
With DHL you cannot send a watch over 500 Euros. With special carriers you can, but they charge about 30 to 35 Euros within Germany.
@@CasebackWatches I see. thnx for explaining. One would think that DHL is the most trustworthy carrier and should offer all kinds of services to their customers considering how much they charge. But then again, they are a subsidiary of German Post so flexibility certainly isnt in their DNA LOL Anyway, I am really sorry for what happened to you Tim. I hope you will find the watch or get justice one way or another because insured or not, the carrier is responsible for the safe delivery of the package. BTW, have you thought about filing a lawsuit for conversion against DHL? Of course, insurance would be faster, but at the end of the day, you may be able to recover the cost of the stolen item through civil liability. If theft happened while the watch was in their custody they will have to admit this or claim that they lost it. Neither is a good situation for them. They may be willing to settle to keep this out of the public domain, etc. Good luck!
Cool watch. Different.
Good luck
Very sorry for what happened to you Tim…..yeah….I almost lost one of my ordered new watch because of the stupid mistakes Christmas seasonal postal worker made as well…..wasted me many sleepless nights to sorted it out. Christmas season is the most crimes and thief happened….so be careful. Yes, will keep eyes open for you and if seen that watch. Will report to you.
It seems the date is out of alignment
Tim, why didn't you opt for erhöhte Versicherung / extra insurance?
bis 2.500 EUR. +6,00 EUR (zusätzlich zum Paketpreis)
bis 25.000 EUR. +18,00 EUR (zusätzlich zum Paketpreis)
Because that's kind of a trap. In the terms and conditions they exclude with very clear words items like watches. You can pay for extra insurance, but it will not get back a cent if the watch's price is over 500 Euros.
What a bunch of assholes. 😳Seems like Galle is the only way to go then
Not that it's any comfort, but don't take that Telegram scam personally. Every watch vlog I comment on generates those. I've gotten dozens.
I’m so sorry you had this kind of crap this week. You have too much class for it.
Thank you, looking forward to 2023 ;-)
The movement looks like a tarted up cheap one from Vostok.
DHL is the worst.
Germany is having many third world problems. I hope things get better.
'Third world problems'. Wtf?
@@rw2266 You know what he means. Don't play.
@@Manospondylus No we don’t, please elaborate for us non-racist.
@@rw2266 Having parcel stolen, not having heating, gas shortages, inflation, violence in the streets, government overreach. Third world problems.
@@Tuneitupful everything is about race, right