The Past & Future of Polaroid Packfilm feat. Doc & Chris from Supersense [Instant Breakdown]
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- Peel open the world of Polaroid packfilm in this journey through the format's history and its surprising future. In this video we are joined by Florian 'Doc' Kaps, the legend who saved Polaroid film, and also the man leading production on the mission to save packfilm, Chris Holmquist. Get your fingers ready, it's time to peel.
Special thanks to Doc & Chris! Here's Supersense's website to learn more: the.supersense.com/
An additional thank you to Max Goldberg and Matt Lucier for filming on-location segments of this video, follow them here: @maxdoes/@whoismattlucier
And as always, you can follow me on that Instagram: the.instantgram
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After 10+a years of death of old Polaroid, finally we are gathering effort all around world for one goal: 'Let's resurrect the peel a part film.' Seriously, i'm ready to supporting this job.
'Viva la packfilm!'
Hell yes! The world is ready for more peels
Around four years since Fuji dismissed us, like 13 since Polaroid toaster bathed for no good reason and we're still throwing our money at packfilm/instant. There is a market. Period.
Amen brother!
My favorite part about the movement to keep peel-apart alive is how succinctly it represents the efforts of artisans to keep artforms alive. Whether it's engineers creating custom electronics to keep retro gaming consoles working or fabricators recreating rare parts for iconic cars. It's remarkable how good we've become at breathing new life into objects we care about long after the original creators are able to support them. Film itself is a tool of creativity, which makes it even more important to keep around.
Keep the great content coming!
So true, people will stop at nothing to save their favorite artistic canvases and the analog (or sometimes digital) materials that make them feel alive. We have gotten quite good at it and hopefully that means great things for the future of the format. Thanks Solace!!
Damn, steppin' up the effects, got Doc Kaps coming out of a packfilm frame *and* Ben chatting us up from an integral frame in the first 30 seconds
😂 Had to go big for this one!
This video has no reason to be shot this well.
And it's fantastic that it is.
Ben... WOW! 😲 Not only are you a excellent writer, story-teller, narrator, researcher, historian and host... the production quality of this video really highlights your creativity skills and talent. I'm just blown away! You've outdone yourself again. ⭐ Wishing you continued success in the New Year. 🥂🍾
Thank you so much Allen! I put a lot of energy into this one - really wanted to get it right, so it means a lot to see this reaction. Best wishes!
Excited by the idea that pack film can survive, but a little weary about the inconsistencies in one instant. I hope this product only gets better!
For mine the inconsistency is a feature, not a bug. Fuji pack film is like 100 USD a pop now, it’s insane, and even then there’s a lot of luck involved in getting a ‘good’ batch.
Honestly it's not even the cost it's the Shipping cost that gets me 😂 one day I'll try it :')
If you buy more the shipping is less per shot!
Now this is big thinking!!
Three legends in their own lifetime!
I'm always going to hold out hope that fuji have secretly mothballed the packfilm machines and will see the error of their ways... as unlikely as it is. One can dream.
So looking forward to the main interview. The man who saved Polaroid integral film. A god among men.
I can't describe how nice one instant is in person to look at. The photographs are full of beautiful colours and just really pleasant on the eye.
One instant is the future and really needs our support, if you are reading my comment and haven't yet, please give it try.
Thanks to Chris, Doc and the team at supersense.
And thanks to the main man Ben, keeping it real for all things instant. Pop. Tap. Clap.
I echo this 100% brother! Thank you!
I believe in doc and supported the Kickstarter for the OneInstant. Up to now I only shot one photo and it made me feel like I took a small 20x24. It’s special, charming. I really liked the outcome. A few weeks ago I got an email for the B&W and preordered 2 boxes. I want this to succeed for a long time. Still have some FP100C in the fridge and freezer, also a few FP3000B and for my converted Polaroid roll Film camera some Fuji 4x5 color packs and a few different types of Polaroid sheet film. Integral film is good and convenient but the packfilm we could use is the best from my point of view. Looking forward to your next video, just love this channel so much.
I continue to love this channel so much
Every time I hear the intro I immediately want to grab an instant camera and take a shot.
I shoot digital 99% of the time but after watching basically all of your videos, it allows me to really love instant photography 👍👍
I lovveee hearing stuff like this! Anything that motivates folks to dig into the medium or just get out and shoot is a win in my book. Really appreciate the kind words!!
Ben, you are doing a wonderful job with this channel!
I can hear Doc talk all day. Met him in London a few years ago when he launched his book and at the time the only thing that was around was New55 and Doc didnt have a bright outlook for packfilm. I'm so glad it turned out differently since then.
I'm a Johnny Come Lately with Land cameras and packfilm, but when Doc (who I totally regard as the saviour of Polaroid film in general) launched his kickstarter, I was like whatever, Im going to drop a couple hundred on 18 shots, just to support and say a massive thanks to him. I didn't have a camera at the time, but since bought a 340, a 355, and now have one of the holy grails known as the 180. Like I said to you before though, as much as I love the OneInstant film, I decided to hunt down some FP100C and FP3000B and my little stash has grown. And then one of my friends gave me a pack of the holy grail stuff! Original Polaroid pack film.
I am saving it all up for when we get out of lockdown though.
Keep up the great work!
Wow sounds like you’ve got an incredible stock of film you’re sitting on! And agreed, Doc is the perfect visionary-type figure in this community, carrying torches and assembling the right teams to make impossible things happen. Also hoping the best for New55, which is plugging along but could do with some help/manpower I reckon. Thanks for the kind words Ray!
@@InAnInstant I wish! I've got about 10 boxes between the different older films (not including OneInstant), but I've been able to source them at reasonable prices and not crazy arse £75 upward prices. Looking forward to the full interview!
This is incredible!! Pack film is true magic 🪄 was lucky enough to try it! Another incredible video!!
Is there anything more satisfying than the sound of peel apart film? I think not.
It’s possibly the best of all ASMR film sounds 🤤🤤🤤
the smellllllllll
Standing ovation for everyone on this vid!!
This was produced better than a network television show! I’m truly never going back to regular television 😅
Haha we’re happy to have you!!
Best video since this channel started 11/10 Huge 4 Business! (PS Glad to be the first to comment on a video from my favorite channel ever)
Thank you good sir! #B4B
Yes, so very much worth the wait for this one. Excellent.
I always wanted to shoot pack film. That they discontinued so many films is devastating. I was crying from happiness when you said that there is finally a chance for me to shoot pack film. I mean it! Thank you! I will order it for Germany. 😭❤️
That’s so amazing!! I hope you enjoy shooting with it!!
Well done as usual Ben! Can't wait 'til the weather gets better so I can shoot some pack film too!
Thank you Micha!!
I would absolutely die if they brought this film back. I became hooked on it in 2012 and I was devastated when it was discontinued. If it came back, I think I'd be tempted to sell my other film gear and shoot nothing else.
A few months ago I won a Polaroid One camera and have fallen in love with the instant format. This channel was been a great source of information, news and fun. This video being another great example :)
Thank you to both Bassy AND Bossy!
"Wicked magic." Yes sir.
Amazing work Ben. The future of Peel apart film seems bright through your lens!
Thank you Jeremy!! Appreciate your support!
I too find my self getting pissed as well as the people around me when ever we shoot and peel open FP-100c and admire how great it looks and then turn around and bash on them for stopping production! Damn you FujiFilm!!!😡😂
Another great video 👏 👍
Lmao I think that is a universal experience when shooting FP-100. Inevitably, everyone's gonna get mad. 🥵😂
the last of the pack film examples, at 9:20, looks INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much! One of my fav portraits
Thank you to the Supersense team for keeping the dream alive. I have never been speechless when first seeing an image like I was when we shoot those first couple of peel aparts and swear to god almost cried when we saw the 4x5. Let's keep the hype up!
So glad we could experience that 4x5 peel simultaneously because it would have been TOUGH to try and describe the feeling to anyone. Packfilm is just magic.
Awesome video and great info thanks!
I love all of your videos, but you really knocked it out of the park with this one. This shit should be on Netflix or something.
Mate that means so much to hear, that's what I'm going for - and I wanted to change the look of this Breakdown to offer something more dynamic than usual.
Hi. I've been using Landautomatic 220 for the past 10 years and I've been depressed since Fuji Film stopped producing films. It's a shame that I'm watching this video now, but I'm so happy that I can see the pack film again. Thank you very much!!
Thank you for watching Sera!
This was such a cool video! I'd never heard of this type of film and now I'm obsessed!
Your wallet is going to be crying in the club after this
Ever since I got into instant photography I’ve been eager to try peel apart film, this is great news! I hope this project grows as it deserves to. Im still too poor to try it though lol
I hope you get a shot to try this!
Can’t wait for that full interview! And JESUS, that X-Files reference. 🙌🏼
We love a good X-File!
Please Fuji, give us back FP100-C !!! Reverse your decision and give us an updated version, with today available chemical components (like you did with Across film version II)
The machines no longer exist.
@@Giottoarts891 How do you know ? Do you work for Fujifilm or is it specified in a Fuji interview ? Fujifilm declared that it was because "insufficient rentability" when they announced that back in 2016 (probably compared to Instax big sales...). And even if the machines no long exist, is it impossible to create new machines with today technology ? Kodak was able to bring back Ektachrome, and Fuji Acros, so nothing seems to be impossible.
@@ericmenu5408 They don't want to do it. Period.
@@Giottoarts891 you don’t know, nobody knowns. If potential usera ask, they can change there mind. They want to make business, and if nobody shows interest (like I try to do here), nothing will change, for sure.
@@ericmenu5408 If pack film has a future it will not be Fuji. You should stop hoping for that. For all of the limitations and challenges that face Supersense they are the only ones pursuing this. You can criticize the efforts as insufficient but they are the only efforts.
Thank you for making this video, I have been so tired of explaining this story about the film. Now I can just send people this video instead! Support one instant to keep pack film alive!
Joe, music to my ears! Chemistry to my peels! Hopefully this serves a document of explanation for all the curious folks out there.
@@InAnInstant for the price I think one instant is great! Just shot a photo this afternoon. If you need some peel part photos or b roll let me know! I have been shooting it weekly insta joexsaunders
Excellent job, amazing production values. We should do a little virtual tour of our facility in Ashland where we make the reagent and spool the components for One Instant.
Thank you John! I was going to reach out after some more vaccines have made their way around, I’d love to see the place!
Okay, but the "I'm too old for this shit" t-shirt is B4B.
Yeah he is COMPLETELY rocking that inside and out
Great video really enjoyed it, need to go out a shoot my 180 land camera now 😃
Keep on keeping on.
Ive just purchased my first pack :-) You gave a cracking good sale's pitch Ben! :-) We need to invest into the effort this company are making for us!! Ta m8 :-)
Haha I love to hear that!! Congrats! Hope you have an absolute blast with it
I'm just here to smash the like button for the youtube algorithm gods.
And perhaps watch it as well
@@InAnInstant oh i watched it for sure. I had a bucket of kfc at the ready for this occasion
Could you do a video on what cameras can use one instant film? I'd like to try it but I'm unsure what to buy.
As watching this video and realizing that my very last packs of Fujifilm are the last shots I will get, (unless I am able to manage bring some one instant film back to Chile) makes me feel regretful about the tons of shots that came wrong when I just started shooting peel apart film. I really hope to try that sweet one instant film. and hopefully, is not gone in the short term. As always, loving your work, Ben. A big, instant, hug!
I hear you!! But of course we can’t think that way. Just embrace it as part of the journey. Hope you get to try that One Instant film, Milo! Much love and thank you!
Amazing ep. Also: Shark Tank & X-Files ftw 🦈🛸
Referencing the two shows with the greatest cultural impact - NEVER leave the tank! 😂
Very well made video. You opened an interesting door when you said “sustainable”. By using old film stocks and old pods chemicals from 20x24 studio, I struggle to see how they are making one instant sustainable. It would be interesting to hear from Supersense about this as they don’t seem to show what they plan to do. I wonder also why they need to stick to the old camera backs and not come with a more modern solution if needed. Have they tried to run their film into an Instax camera? Curious to see the interview.
Nico, that is not what I was referring to when I said “sustainable.” I was talking about the fact that they have limited their expenditure and burden of resources like factory size and use of materials (like their cardboard holders). By doing this, they are ensuring they can be a sustainable business (that doesn’t disappear suddenly due to cost of operation). We discuss the alternative sources they are working on in next week’s episode. Per your camera question, they are not producing integral film (so wouldn’t make use of Instax) and resurrecting the use of 40 years of amazing cameras is part of the reason One Instant is reviving the Type 100 format, along with the fact they’re the last hope to do so.
@@InAnInstant thanks a lot for the feedback. Looking forward to the interview. Don’t you think New55 is another case for hope? New55 is peel apart too, they make their own pods now...
@@toulcaz31 New55 is great! And they have a great relationship with Doc/Supersense, so I agree, definitely another case of hope!
That feeling to perpetuate a tradition, a way of doing things is stunning. This niche, that Instant Film is, brings in me some strange vibes I won't deny.
I would love to put my hands into it.
Any polaroid packfilm camera to recommend?
Totally totally totally! This comes from a different, very fundamentally analog part of us, which we as humans want to keep alive. It is niche, sure, but those who feel strongly about it are a very tight knit group of kindred spirits indeed! As for cameras to try, I'd just pick up one at a thrift shop or antiques store, but make sure the batteries haven't corroded the interior, which is quite common.
Tell me I can use this stuff in my old slide enlarger, please! I so miss the painterly results you get from throwing 35mm images at a Polaroid film. And with Fuji at over 100USD a pack I’d rather send my dollars to these guys trying to keep this format alive! I had NO idea this was even a thing! Are they still going?
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I love pack film more than any other film ❤️ possibly more than sx70 😳
I miss fp-3000 I shot my first and last pack in 2014. We need more high iso instant film!
Oh I completely agree!! 3000 speed instant film is truly a miracle; would be crazy to have some high speed integral!
@@InAnInstant the problem is probably with the opacifier, the film is delicate enough as it is! Imagine shooting 3000iso back when you kinda had to shoot sx-70 into a box.
@@pioneerz450 I don't know much about the technical side, but wouldn't it be possible to do somehow? I know instax is 800 iso, and it develops completely fine out in the light (even in bright sunlight).
@@TheUndeadFireNinja it might be possible with instax as their opacifier doesnt need to clear up the same way polaroid does. :)
I really really hope they can continue with a "Type 669" film going forward. It's probably the most iconic look and has a HUGE following in the expired community. It's probably not going to happen and I wonder how they will avoid the same problems New55 had. I REALLY want to support Doc and don't mind spending the $$$, but I would love to know more about the future past using up the limited supply of 20X24 stock. Viva La Peel Apart
Fabulous content, fantastic production eye candy - wins an instant award, or Oscar (I know Oscar doesn’t apply here)! CZcams people-I mean those who work there-are you watching? Put this up for whatever award you have. And if you don’t have one, make one!#WeNeedAnAward! Folks watching this channel - let’s break CZcams-use the #, #WeNeedAnAward!
Couldn't be more honored to have this movement thrust upon me - fittingly the CEO of Polaroid is Oskar, maybe I could win an Oskar????
Yasss #LongLivePackFilm !!!
How have they not started producing this stuff in some lonely corner of China and flooded my ebay feed with it by now???
Kind of frustrating that despite advances in technology, we don't have readily available replacement for portable large format instant print at all. These things just die and then no human being can do that anymore.
I so want this to be successful, I grew up with pack film first, my first camera was a Colorpack II. just wish i had more expendable cash!!!
Hope so too Brian! While it will likely remain a specialty product, I love what they’re doing and how they’re tackling these challenges.
Another banger 👌
Thanks bro!
Seriously hoping that polaroid sees the value in resurrecting polachrome
I just realized $10 per exposure for the film...which yeah I can see why people are not happy. Hopefully they can get more of the process automated so that it becomes more affordable. At maybe $5 per exposure I would consider trying it for a photoshoot, but nothing casual, I'll stick with my phone, digital and integral film for that.
I would love super high ISO instant film again be it integral, or peel apart. I haven't ever used peel apart for all the reasons discussed here sadly, but yeah, 3200 ISO black and white? I want that. I love night photography.
That high sensitivity peel stuff is simply amazing. Being able to go outside in the dead of night and take an instant photo feels like a minor miracle. Hopefully somebody brings that back in some form one day!
Learned something new again! :)
Luckly you did not make me buy anything again... yet!
THERE'S STILL TIME
I never shot much pack film sadly! I came to that format late in the game and by the time I wanted to buy even 669 film, it was way out of my budget!! waaaaaa I loved it too!!
Damn! Maybe one day cost of Supersense or New55 will come down to reasonable prices!
Ben one question, as I might didn't catch it... Am I right, that One Instant has limited stock of their product as they are not producing it but reselling the old stock of Polaroid instead? So there will be the point where peel apart film will be dead for good? (ofc there is the chance that by our funds they will have money for research and dev new, their own, formula for peel aparat film).
They are constantly developing new methods to continue production of the film! The folks at a different company, New55 have already developed fresh pods for B&W, so it can be done.
@@InAnInstant ok, do it's time to search for Polaroid back for my RB 😍
I have quite a bit of film for sale in Johannesburg.
Im very impressed with yiur samples. The ones I've seen online where truly bad and ai too was one to say no. After spending money on expired film, with truly bad results. Whats the difference.
The difference now im telling myself is Im adding money tk the company for research to make it better. Im ordering next week...
Heck yeah Reuben! It’s a little like a support system for the future of this format
Does Fuji still have the packfilm machinery?
These machines are gigantic, I'm sure they were dismantled for parts about 5 years ago.
I fully support what they’re doing over at one instant and couldn’t think of anyone better than Doc to steer the ship. What I don’t really understand is how one instant is “sustainable” given they were allotted a finite supply of reagent from 20x24.
Hey Kyle!! This came up in a diff comment so I'll paste it here: That is not what I was referring to when I said “sustainable.” I was talking about the fact that they have limited their expenditure and burden of resources like factory size and use of materials (like their cardboard holders). By doing this, they are ensuring they can be a sustainable business (that doesn’t disappear suddenly due to cost of operation). We discuss the alternative sources they are working on in the longform interview. Supersense does have options and WILL continue beyond the legacy Polaroid chemistry!
@@InAnInstant this gives me more hope
I wish Supersense could tell us more about the future of One Instant, whether it is new material they find, more shots in one pack, or price reduction. I guess it is still too soon for that
There is more information about that coming next week in my long form interview with them!
@@InAnInstant YESSS you're the best!
How do you have such high quality production value for such a small channel
Coffee and a lot of pasta
_The kind of photography that would become part of the human being. Press a button and have a picture._
_- Dr. Edwin Land_
Where do I get the shirt!?
669 shirt and others can be found here: www.redbubble.com/people/InstantMarket
I'd love to be able to use the instant back I have for my Hasselblad without having to shoot expired/ridiculously priced film.
Yeah I hear ya Adam, guess you could get an Instax Square back in the mean time
May i ask about that outro song ?
Yes! It is called Obversa by the talented Isaac Joel.
And from their own website, I thought P7 was 690, not 669, so it should be more like FP-100C
"Our other color film is Polacolor 7, and was sold as T690 by Polaroid."
Yeah it’s a little confusing because they’ve used both P3 and P7 - the current stuff is P7 but they’ve referred to it as 669-equivalent when I think they mean 690.
@7:43. John Reuter!
Legend!!
My cameo.
@@Giottoarts891 miss you my friend. Hope you are well!
Was that you @ 2:21-2, Ben? ;)
I am spaceboy
In 2016 I launched an online Petition on "Change.org" called "SAVE INSTANT FILMS".
Connecting with thousands of peel apart films enthusiasts has been one of the best experiences in my whole life.
If this stuff can fit into a Polaroid Big Shot, I'd gladly get me some.
I found a Big Shot in my grandfather's garage, bought some expired film (seller didn't disclose *how* expired it was) and I'm waiting to try it out; I might try to make a video of it and send it to the Discord if anyone would be interested.
Indeed, the Big Shot takes Type 100 packfilm!
J'ai eu dans les mains un Polaroid professionnel du style 380, ici fallait faire la mise au point manuelle. Lors d'un p e l e r i n a g e à Lourdes, j'ai fait le portrait de quelqu'un en noir et blanc, avec une certaine netteté et contraste,,qui m'a permis de fixer le négatif et après lavage et séchage le mettre dans une poche pour le conserver. Le film couleur était très bien aussi. Pour le noir et blanc,les i s o étaient élevés et sans aucun grain,ce qui est agréable. A quand une pellicule infrarouge, et qu'on ait juste à appuyer sur le bouton, et le flash avec
le filtre rouge foncé aussi (950 nanomètre). A quand, un film où l'on n'a pas besoin du flash pour les vues en extérieur ou en intérieur avec juste la lumière de l'endroit avec un film de beaucoup plus hautes sensibilités. et saturés pour la couleur, et par exemple faire une photo dans un endroit très peu éclairé ( scouter dans une fête foraine etc).
Ah fuck I miss shooting Fuji packfilm so much. Makes me genuinly sad every time I think about it.
Amen!!
Peel apart was cool and all but I hated how wet it was, especially when you didn't have anywhere to put the wet trash haha.
😂😂 fair point bruddah
I'd shoot it if it ever comes down in price.
Hear me out - I get it's expensive given the amount of hands-on attention it takes to make this pull-film possible. My plea is that they might at least try to find a way to somehow make it possible to lower the unit cost of One Instant. You can't deny that there is a demand despite the niche nature of this format and film in general has had a huge boom over the past year. I would gladly open my wallet if the price wasn't so cost prohibitive for me individually. I can't imagine there aren't others that are in my position in a large enough number that would make working towards a more affordable pull-film more profitable. I want Supersense and One Instant to succeed and regardless of future prices, I hope they do. My only request is to not have to pay nearly the same price as the inflated FP100c. If I had a goldilocks area for what I would pay it would be less than expired FP100c and more than Instax. Also, call me crazy but there's just something nice about having at least 10 exposures to a package. Is that too much to ask for? HA! Here's hoping!
Still, the original Polaroid material ages, the chemistry deteriorates, and at some point, it will be dead. I do sincerely hope that someone will be able to sustainably manufacture a new peel-apart film in the future.
Just wish the stuff wasn’t Around the photo
Grab a scissor!
"went full Hindenburg"
Father always warned me never to go full Hindenburg 😂😂
At some point, they are gonna run out of the original material...what then? Is there any future for this format? I am still sad to be honest.
When I think of Polaroid, I think of my childhood/adolescence dream that never came true. I spent my first 8 years of life living in Soviet Union, so we didn't have access to things like Polaroid, Coca Cola or jeans. I believe it was first years after my country gained independence from Soviets and I saw a short reportage on news about a miracle camera that printed instant pictures. I was mesmerized and wanted it badly, but the reality was that at that time there was no WWW and you couldn't get it anywhere in my country. I still don't own a single Polaroid camera, but I've got other instant cameras, and every time I take an instant picture, I feel like I'm a badass teenager from Soviet Union :) OK, gonna continue watching this video now :)
Wow I love this comment Ingri! That is badass, keep shooting, and hope you can get that Polaroid camera sometime soon!
@@InAnInstant it just crossed my mind that I learnt about Polaroid only in early 90's when the rest of the world had been enjoying it for decades by then. It's crazy how much politics affect people's lives, right Ameri.....😴....ca? 😁 (Look at my arm!... 🤦🏻♀️😂 wtf? 😂)
To paraphrase SNL, "Dude, Fuji straight up sucks!"
😂
"im too old for this shit"
Just your daily reminder to condemn Fujifilm and Polaroid (Originals) for killing sth again after they saved it from polaroid.
Just to make sure you don’t misdirect any anger, feel free to hate Fuji, but the current Polaroid company had nothing to do with the discontinuation of packfilm and had no way to save it.
@@InAnInstant Thanks, yeah by Polaroid I refer to Spectra film, which also was saved and killed again.
Ah understandable have a nice day
You say support now this company will make the price of the film cheaper in the future...well, after more than 10 years the cost of the impossible film , now Polaroid, is the same of the first day!!
There is someone who is making a huge business!
Ivan the film is much cheaper now lol
I find it strange that Florian Kaps left Polaroid (still a shareholder) to save pack film. Why couldn't he have done this with Polaroid?
The company had no access to the manufacturing capabilities to do so, and packfilm had yet to be discontinued during Doc's time at Impossible. Once it had been, he immediately went to Japan to try and deal with Fuji, which failed, but he ended up launching Supersense as a result.
@@InAnInstant oh, thanks for explaining. Now it makes sense.
Polaroid has their hands full with their integral products. That does not mean that future collaboration is out of the question.
fuji why ya gotta be so selfish
Fuji just can't hang
"nitch"
Yes
how much do these polaroid people pay you ben?
$0.00, I do this channel because I love it, I’ve got a real video/photo job that pays the bills 😂
@@InAnInstant well thanks thanks for the response, and good for you man. while my love for the company runs deep, i do my fair share of shit talking about them. i guess maybe i should just take a page out of your playbook, and be grateful they're still here.
Great Video Ben! Although, I'm sorry, this film (One Instant) is so impractical, and also wayyyy too expensive for me for the results which are (in my opinion) pretty bad (to say the least). I find it pretty annoying that they are accepting the situation as it is and keeping on talking about their handmade film instead of trying to build some type of machinery. Huge pass for me. Would not support a business that accepting this absurd pricing without making any promises to their customers to lower the price (by building a machinery) and making the results better.
It's rightfully expensive. Producing anything in Vienna is expensive as hell, employees get paid well and renting a place alone is hella expensive. I'm glad they are trying, they don't have to. They're not a huge company like fuji and don't have as much access to chemicals.
They're working on it and trying to improve. Impossible film was not as good as polaroid is now.
I have to agree.....I’m sorry but it really is a dead format. I have the upmost respect for Doc - he got Impossible going....and it has improved. BUT...this is just really buying dead time....all of the chems and material are just OLD polaroid stock that was made in 2008....they have made NOTHiNG....they have just origami the units together by hand from old materials from 2008.
There is NO information about making the materials or chems again- NOTHING. Sorry but it is one last ditch swan song man....
Unless Fuji pulls out a miracle and remakes their packfilm.....then it is just a fantasy.
Sorry dude....but I usually agree with most of your videos....but I’m betting against Doc....and he will not make a real packfilm with useable neg like Fuji....it will never happen PERIOD
Are you aware of New55?
@@andrewwilliams4072 I somewhat agree. I don't think that this format is dead (at least I'm hoping it isn't). With that said, I couldn't agree more about the statement on the materials. How much more time can you pull that off? What are the plans for the future? How much more are we going to hear about the "LeGeNDaRy P7" that's no one gives a f*** about? One Instant is SO DISAPPOINTING by not making any announcements about working on machinery which will make this cheaper, buying new materials, and more. It looks NOTHING like Impossible's first days. They just keep on talking about their "handmade-cardboard-light-sensitive-film" which produces pretty awful images for 10 euros a shot(!!!!!) and not offering solutions or plans for the future.
Sorry, this is just ludicrous, they don't deserve my money unless they get their s*** together and start acting like a business that actually wants to be relevant for the next 12 months.
@@InAnInstant yes I’m aware of new55..... are you referring to yet another Kickstarter that raised bucket loads of money ($400K usd) then took years to develop and then only delivered mediocre results...then was highly overpriced.....and then we keep getting rumours about new55 being no longer...but wait they are back...then they are gone...but then??
That new 55??
Seriously though I see where you are going - maybe one instant can use their chem and materials... maybe.... but the cost again....and also the lack of results....
Look I admire anyone for giving it a go....but it is a dead format unless some serious company like say....Fujifilm....decided to do it. I’m sick of experimental results that WE have to pay for.... you know the Land story.... he came up with an amazing idea and developed it over decades.....he DELIVERED amazing films and results....he didn’t go to Kickstarter and ask us to pay. The business “ people” of today want to spend others money and profit. To them I say F#$2 off...pay for it yourself and give us a real finished product then we will buy.
Sorry....I know these comments will upset people here. I love packfilm...and would buy it if it was at least as good as what we had. I don’t expect cheaper or better....but at least EQUAL in results and in quantity per pack.
The only real future for instant film - is camera companies to build some decent quality cameras for what films we actually have and actually work - instax and Polaroid originals
It's so sick that these people are still making this