Transit Museum Society Buses 1937 - 1996. See 2022 updated video on this channel.
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- This is the Vintage bus collection of the Transit Museum Society, Vancouver B.C.
The Transit Museum Society of Vancouver, British Columbia was established in 1986
to document and preserve our province’s transit heritage. We restore and operate
vehicles significant to the history of public transit in British Columbia.
See the updated video at • TMS buses 1937 - 1996 - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I was born in 88 and still remember riding most of these buses when I was younger; including the fishbowls which must have been operational until the mid 90s? Thank you so much. Brings back some amazing memories of living in Vancouver before the city became cookie-cutter glass and steel towers
Optimus Fine The fishbowls ran mostly until 2002, but some lasted until 2004. A few were put into storage until 2007.
For some reason, I find that the old ‘fishbowl’ buses never age. They stay sort of current in its design.
@@southwest3671 They we’re built from 1959 until 1986 with the same basic body design. Toronto was the last major city to run them in large numbers lasting to the end of 2011. Multi generational service.
Great job for keeping history alive... Thank you guys!
Wow! It's lovely to see all the vintage buses running - thanks so much for sharing here!
Thank you very much for this video, It took me back to when I was a kid in early 60`s . I rode in some of these models and I can still hear the sound of the engine that is etched into my memory, hearing the same sounds of the bus in motion in a few of these models triggered my memory of the sound I heard many years ago from riding buses through the years.
Steve The Ford Guy glad you liked it. I recently got some newer footage of the 1937 Hayes, 1964 Fishbowl, and 1982 Fishbowl. I am always trying to improve this compilation as I get better equipment and as more of these buses get back on the road.
It's such a joy to see this - thank you for sharing this beautiful vintage bus with us!
the older the product or i mean the ORIGINAL is the best for the HEART&SOUL was there by the builders ans the next are XEROX with a slight improvement as time goes by ... the SOUND of the ENGINE or cranking of the noise is a lullabye ... good morning
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing !
A Fishbowl with a 6V92TA? That's a rare beast!
Available from 1982 to 1986. They had a bit too much torque for the bus and some reinforcement on the structure was needed and the original spec was detuned. I have newer videos on the Chanel.
Something about these buses I find fascinating. Great share👍
Great fun, I remember driving most of those buses, brought back some good memories. I enjoyed driving the 37 In the PNE parade and the Hyack parade.
10:50 I remember well the General Motors TDH - 4519 models arriving in Greater Vancouver in '64. they were beautifully designed, with a good colour scheme. They were bought to replace the ageing Fageol coaches. I rate them to be the nicest looking transit coaches that Greater Vancouver has ever seen.
Incredible,congratulations.
Great video, Thumbs Up and happy weekend yo you also.
Thank you for this great video😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
AWESOME!!!!
Impressive collection indeed. Noticed my friend & I in one of the videos! LOL! Sorry didn't mean to.
man that bus originaly being electric 2 stroke is a HUGE upgrade over that shit awesome!
1109 (2649) and the other Flyer E800’s were never great buses.
The electric propulsion was from 1948 Brill trolley buses and were poorly rebuilt before being installed in the Flyer buses with an air throttle. When the Flyer E800’s became surplus after 245 Flyer E901 trolleys were delivered in 1982, a plan was made to take good drivetrains from Flyer D700 buses that had structural problems and put them into the E800’s giving them the name “Trisel”. They made the buses last until 2000 when the low floor buses replaced them.
As diesels they were rather gutless compared to a GM Fishbowl with the same engine. They got the job done if assigned to relatively flat routes.
Ah, that's familiar fishbowl sound, the ratting windows, it's music to my ears.
best sounding trolley buses ive ever heard
Miles Campbell 2416 had a new / rebuilt motor installed and we have barely put 1000Km on it since it was put in.
We had trolley busses in Chicago until 1973. They were discontinued because it cost 1 cent per mile more to operate than the diesel powered busses. So they dismantled the system, then came the "oil embargo" which blew their cost savings out of the water. (Chicago generated their own electricity for the trolley busses.)
Their last equipment was a series of Marmon Herrington electric busses, made in 1951. I loved riding these. They were reliable and had quick acceleration.
Remember school outing 1958 bus had dual sidemout wooden wheels was a white or brockway circa 1930 long hood like a lincoln v 12 limo .
I was born in 1940, and love busses.
It's cool seeing the changes of buses over the years and decades, from ancient to modern. However, why was the trolley bus converted to a diesel bus?
Im pretty sure that they did that because the copper got stolen in the wiring
7:25 that is non other than an AEC diesel sourced from Associated Equipment Company of Southall England. They built the iconic red London Transport double deckers.
It's nice to hear one hooked up to a Spicer torque converter transmission. Certainly unusual to my ears. All the AEC buses I caught had four speed semi automatic fluid flywheel transmissions. They sounded like a manual gearbox, but without a clutch pedal, hence the fluid flywheel.
James French these two CD-52A Brills could very well be the last ones in existence, or at least restored. Not many of those AEC pancake engines running in Canada.
It's an absolute thrill and privilege to have come across this then.
There is nothing like an AEC motor.
AEC were a major player in Britain and abroad until British Leyland, who took them over in 1962, closed down the Southall works in mid 1979. The vertical version of this 590/690 engine was used in the famous London Routemaster red decker.
Do you know who made the axles?
AEC also made trucks and I once saw a photo of an old 1940s AEC Ranger truck taken in Canada.
This is the One of our Diesel Brills starting with the AEC engine czcams.com/video/iL5r3lynzCU/video.html
That was a great startup video. These Brills are certainly unique. Nicely styled too. They do look abit like Sydney's AECs like the one below, a restored 1959 AEC Regal IV with amidship horizontal engine too.
czcams.com/video/7IglEbLJ1AI/video.html
@@jamesfrench7299 We now have a Translink mechanic that was trained on the AEC engines on the Routemasters in England before coming to Vancouver.
I noticed imediately with the first bus, the Anderson Teardrop from 1937, how thin the aisles were back then. Those buses would never see the light of day now.
Two things about the Hayes, narrower bus, and those are not the original seats. I think the seats are wider than they should be. Those seats were put in when it was restored in 1984.
@@matthewsvideos8235 Thanks.
me encantan que lleyo mentrae nostalgia porq yo maneje un autobus .Reo.wuaitet mercedes 0317/ Leylan felicito a los coleccionistas
Flageolet had a mini twin coach Rorh flexible windshield
What was 3106's last assigned garage before it was donated to TRAMS? I notice it doesn't have a garage prefix.
Vancouver. Served at Oakridge and the current Vancouver Transit Centre
The 8V-71 is notorious for oil leaks because it is a 2-strake engine and until it gets to operating
temperature it burns the oil in cylinder until the rings are hot enough to seal. I remember the 1954 GM transit bus because the seats were like sitting on a mattress!
No 8V71 engines here. one 6-71, 3x 6V71, and 3x 6V92TA. They all leak. Our buses with gas engines and the two AEC diesel engines leak in one way or another.
All GM diesels are 2-stroke and are afflicted with the same troubles I was responsible for operating 3 8V71 as marine auxillaries which ran 24/7 for 28 days at a time. Caterpillar & Cummins diesels are far superior and some municipal buses here are running Cummins
In the Vancouver fleet, pretty much everything built after 2000 is using a Cummins ISL. There are a few Detroit diesel series 50 buses, but they will be gone soon.
The 8V71, used on most highway coaches from the 50s through the 80s, was obnoxiously shrill. Add to that the loud roar of the air conditioning condenser fans and they were NOT good neighbors!
Te shrill sound emanates from the Rootes Blower which by some people call a turbocharger, but is actually a supercharger geared to the crankshaft.
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You missed one. The Prevost buses used for SFU back in the day.
We were never able to acquire one. It was lost along with a Flyer D700 and Twin Coach trolley when someone in civic government ordered the “junk buses” to scrap. Had no business do it as they belonged to another party.
How often do they do these fan trips? Im from Chicago Former bus operator, now firefighter! Im so fascinated with BC Transit and surrounding transit in and around Vancouver . I hope to take a trip there one day.
Usually in past we would have fan trips from July to October. Also some mid to late December Christmas Lights Tours. The trips vary depending on vehicle availability. I usually post on Facebook groups like “The Bus Lounge”. Watch TRAMS.CA
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It was the Cathedral Bus
What is the engine in that E800 diesel conversion?
Detroit Diesel 6V71N with a Two speed Spicer automatic in a T-Drive configuration. The bus is a bit gutless.
@@matthewsvideos8235 Yeah, perhaps they should swap the transmission for an Allison MT643 or similar.
Are there the short GMC bus still around
There a few still around North America in museums or in private hands. In the Vancouver area there is 4612 from the video, West Vancouver transit has #61 1961 TDH-4517 ( don’t quote me on that model), there is a 1976 T6H-4523N (formally 5509) in the Vancouver works yard that needs a new owner. In Victoria there is a gentleman that has a 1966 TDH-4519 #762. That bus is on CZcams and has had a bunch of work done to make look great.
Does the museum have any Hall Scott powered coaches?
3RTracing there is a Brill IC-41 with a Hall Scott. It is in very rough shape and does not run. It will be leaving for good to a new owner soon.
There is a Crown for sale in Eastern WA, a runner in fairly good shape too. Probably outside of your budget, unless you had a benefactor who wanted to buy it for the museum. Not originally a Canadian unit but part of the genre, and a Hall Scott pancake powered coach. Put Hall Scott into a Craig's List search, it is in Union Gap, south of Yakima. YouTUbe won't let me paste the URL. Go Figure.
BTW, I am the lead mechanic on the restoration of a group of 1946 Kenworth Fire Trucks which at one time were Seattle Fire Department pumpers. All 6 trucks, of which we have control of 5, were Hall Scott 400 powered. They are beasts. There is nothing quite like the sound of a Hall Scott motor going through the gears, or rolling down the street. It is quite magnificent. One of the trucks is mine. It is to far gone to ever be a fire apparatus again so I am building it into a 1930's Rolls Royce Shooting Brake style woody. Google 1930 Rolls Royce Shooting Brake to get a sense of what I want my Kenworth to look like. Should be very cool.
I didn't Even know that they had Electric Buses before there were electric buses now I wonder what was how fast can those buses go
We had our brills at 80KM/h an hour on clear roads after we let them run. Not exactly legal and no governor. The newer trolley buses have a governor set to 65KM/h
Hasta los New Flyier ya hasta de camiones la hacen
Does trams still have E902
Yes we have 2805. Unfortunately it will most likely never run again. The parts and manuals to replace the vandalized equipment no longer exist. The bus is in storage in the Fraser Valley and will be static display for now.
Not that I know much about anything but in this video I saw a trolley bus which had a diesel engine. I had no idea electric trolley busses where both powered by diesel and electric power.
That bus #2649 was originally an electric trolley as a Flyer E800. In the late 80’s is was converted to diesel power to resemble a D800. The electric propulsion was removed due it being unreliable compared to the new electric trolleys that were being delivered. 2649 kept it’s trolley poles to de-ice the overhead wires in the winter. At that time it had the unit number of V1109 varying the red, white, and blue paint colors. Now the poles are just for show.
@@matthewsvideos8235 The engine and transmission were salvaged from retired Flyer D700As whose bodies were probably worn out.
Those D700 bodies had issues from day one. One bus lost its engine, transmission and rear axel while it was still moving. Thankfully no passengers at the time.
no synchros in teardrop trans?
Not in that 1937, also a very heavy clutch. The best guys would rpm match and only use the clutch to start in first gear to get moving.
The dude driving the 1937 needs double clutching downshift lessons big time.
cowboy6591 he’s not a truck driver. This bus is best driven as an old 5-ton truck would have been. This is from a time when the clutch was used mostly to get moving from a stop and then shift without a clutch afterwards. The better truck drivers do the same thing today. What we really need is more drivers trained on this bus since most bus drivers only know automatics now.
A newer video with a different person that has less grinding and no double clutching. This is after mechanical work on the bus. czcams.com/video/z0zeiED1AGg/video.html
grind me another, Agnus.
If your referring to the first bus, even the best drivers grind with the non-synchronized transmission and the heavy clutch. Updated version from 2022. czcams.com/video/k8cGLI_p5qM/video.html
A trolley that has a Diesel engine and the pantograph (poles) is only used for de-icing? Interesting...
They are now just for show. The de-icing equipment was removed in 2012 when it was repainted.
Does trams have the D60
Unfortunately no. Too big for us to maintain. Our new shop only has room for eight buses.
I'm a TransLink Museum and yes I do have 2 D40 buses A D60 2 E902s a D40lf and a mini shuttle bus in my collection
This guy is not part of the museum. TMS has a few flyers, a high floor D40, a D40LF, E800 converted to Diesel, and a non-running E902. No D60 or any other artics.
What must've caused you to suppose your footage here needed improving, uchoob's ruined it?!
trainrover I see that CZcams trying stabilize some clips is not very good. I am looking to replace then over the coming months when we start taking the buses out for community events more.
Biggest and baddest of ALL TIME ??
MACK BULLDOG C-50
Bigger heavier stronger more powerful than the whining 6v Detroit cow motor- a victim of its own quality control: bigger stronger more powerful means MORE EXPENSIVE- and indeed they were- transit properties, especially NYC TA SWITCHED TO THE 5105 old look instead-
THE ONLY BUS BUILT LIKE A MACK
TRUCK!!!!
Loved that Mack growl-/Mack’s aren’t the prettiest vehicles- they are considered SEVERE DUTY and boy are they!
25:25 why retire something that runs so good?
Get it out there.
That bus, New Flyer D40 is our primary Charter bus along with our 1964 Fishbowl. Our 1990 Classic and possibly our 1982 Fishbowl once maintenance is completed would be our backup buses for passengers. The 1976 and 1982 Flyers would be carrying passengers only for occasional fan trips. Still all could be used for parades and community events.
Buses use to style now there's nothing to them
10:30 bus snipping? Snip snip snip
There was a rock in the inner right dual that we removed the following week.
Rock in the inner right dual in a trunk?
@@ThomasMadness The tires on this bus pick up rocks in the tread more than some our newer ones.
what ones the one from the speed movie lol
Random Videos The 1964 GM Newlook (Fishbowl) #4612 would be the closest to the Speed bus. #4107 is 18 years newer.
sweet thanks
Why TRAMS have No D60
There is no way TMS can look after an articulated bus due to it's size. Few museums have artics. Also the artic joint would most likely be worn out and that part is the most expansive part of the bus. They are all gone now anyways.
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