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How much did this machine cost
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@@King_Protoyour really not
@@King_Protoyou know that
Nice! But you can sort of feel in your gut that the ball is moving too fast for this to actually be real, even without knowing about the batteries.
You may also "feel in your gut" we're part of the perpetual motion machine which is why we cannot create it.
@@lorenzoblum868 this man contains secret esoteric knowledge
You can always infer some energy input source the moment the device gives off sound energy.
@@lorenzoblum868 what? I’m not sure how to make scientific sense of this, how would we be part of a perpetual machine? And why would that mean we can’t create a smaller version?
In the universe, matter nor energy is created nor destroyed it stays the same since the big bang, but what created the big bang? A bigger big bang or maybe a cycle.
We do not know. We will only know if we go back in time.
I think the guy is saying that since .matter or energy isn't created or destroyed we are in a perpetual motion machine cause we are in the universe a giant perpetual motion machine that we can not even fathom. Can you fathom? Not what you were taught but its existence?
"The hardest part of making perpetual motion machines is where to hide the batteries" - Sun Tzu, Art of War
Edit : There is a war in the comment section. Visit at your own risk.
wah
LOL
Nice job stealing a direct quote from the video and pretending you were original.
Exactly
@@jamesbizs Bro that's why he put in quotes
The hardest part about a perpetual motion machine is trying to find a way to glitch the simulation
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@@sadderwhiskeymann wtf did you just comment
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@@sadderwhiskeymann Irrelevant ass comment
Magnetism for the win 😂😂😂
You could greatly improve the device by reducing the current in the coil so that the ball just barely makes it back around, instead of shooting through the air like a clown from a cannon. ;%)
Exactly. The amount of energy lost in having the bounce around doesn't make any sense.
yea, make it a little more believable.
@@peterjohn8625I mean, to be fair, the whole machine doesn't make sense as it's useless haha
You could make the ball lighter as well. Think of a magnet in a pingpong ball. When the ball comes to rest, the magnet would be at the base. So making a ball out of lighter material and a smaller magnet close to the outer edge should work at least in this model.
It barely clears as is, if it went lower it wouldn't reliably make it to the bowl every time
As a kid, I was always amazed and almost mesmerized by the tipsy "drinking bird" plastic toy... the one with the bird pivoting back and forth eventually dipping it's beak into the cup, and continuing to rock to and fro again, repeating the cycle in what I thought was forever,... then later learned a bit about thermodynamics and the fact that the red alcohol fluid in the birds bottom has a thermal differential coefficient, or something to that effect.
as long as it had a thermal differential and water, it would keep going, evaporation is the "motor" that kept it going.
Suddenly I am reminded of when Homer Simpson made use of one of these, although somebody knocked over the drinking bird before the thermodynamics came due . . . .
I got one of these at work. I don't use water, but the computers fan lightly blows on the 'tail', so the heat difference between the glass ends is enough to have it move constantly.
It's great because the speed in which it 'drinks' increases the harder i work (crappy computer, so easy to stress"
But... If you built one big enough, you could power a city.
@@jameswest8280 This NEEDS to become a Simpsons episode . . . .
I think of these perpetual motion machines like magicians' tricks. You know the magician isn't actually doing wizardry, but it's fun to have your senses fooled and try to figure out how he did the trick.
That's what they are for basically. To make people wonder okay it is not possible so how is he doing it and answer is almost every single time. Batteries so the trick has been used so many times that for a first timer it might be fascinating but grows old real quick.
The problem is gullible people who don't recognize it's a trick and end up investing thousands of dollars into scams.
My dad was going to buy me a supposed perpetual motion kit back in 2012, and it was embarrassing that his middle-school son had to explain why that was impossible lol
@chitlitlah Have you seen the perpetual motion machine of the channel Periodic Videos? (it also featured in Objectivity)
It's a wheel inside a transparent box with some distractions attached and some gadgets inside that seem to have function, but almost nobody knows how it works.
It does need a recharge over-time and that will be done behind closed doors by a guy who inherited the secrets.
It's a very interesting object, if you're into such things. It literally invites you to guess how it works while admitting it's not a real perpetual motion machine.
@@BetaDude40 I want to make it clear that I don't think this about all supposed perpetual motion machines, but I honestly don't see how anyone could take the one in this video seriously. It's like when my grandparents bought me jack rabbit milk when I was a kid. It's just a novelty.
@@Yezpahr I love Periodic Videos and I had to check that out after reading your post. The professor doesn't say much about how it works, but yeah, it makes you wonder. A bicycle wheel with a well-greased bearing doesn't have much friction, so I'm thinking there's a battery in the box and electromagnets that give the wheel the slightest push as those boxes (presumably magnets) go by. It's still impressive that it had been spinning for two years at the time of the video though.
Love these! Science and demonstration is the best combatant against misinformation. You are doing a great service. Love your channel for years now :) I'm not even a student in school, I've been a professional for years but I am always happy to see you post.
Professional WHAT?
@@NickNicometi *REDACTED* - I am an engineer with a degree in my field but don't feel comfortable sharing what and where exactly because people on YT are nuts. You can feel free to message me if you want to know.
“The hardest part of making the batteries, is hiding the perpetual motion machine”
I remember learning this in school. Almost everyone I meet has forgotten these basic rules. Perfect reminder.
Dude your honestly one of the top educational youtube channels. Never disappointed when watching them!
Years ago the first time I watched one of your videos, it was that Vanderlay industries T-shirt that made me hit follow right away! I knew you were good people!
Cool! How do you make it accelerate faster than gravity despite no other forces acting upon it (well... friction... which would work _against it)._
I've seen this effect done more subtly and I think I prefer that.
why are you here
I like how you chose comet Scottmanley for demonstration
Perpetual Motion is a concept I want to learn more in depth. This video is fascinating to watch. Keep up the good work.
You want to learn about something that doesn’t exist?
It is NOT a 'concept." it's IMPOSSIBLE.
We wish you luck my good sir
Two are the key principles:
a) i might be wrong that physics allow for a machine that moves "forevere" (a long time) the reason it hasn't been done is because the system will loose energy to almost everything (for example even the sound it would make is vibrations stealing energy
b) even if you achieve a, as pointed out from ActionLab, you are NOT gonna be able to extract FREE energy. I thing the term is often blended with statement "a" creating confusion.
But hey, I'm no physicist and i may have it wrong 🤷
@@jamesbizs well he said perpetual motion is something that exists on our timescales. What's erroneous about perpetual motion is the thinking that they are sources of energy, which they are not.
Thanks, Action Lab man.
That "silly me" 😂❤️
That thing looks like a schematic representation of my mood. Does that mean I have perpetual emotion?!
I feel like we can sidestep this caveat of friction-less masses in a vacuum by just calling the phenomenon "perpetual acceleration". Since in practice, everything suffers friction or other losses, so perpetual motion requires a perpetual acceleration to counteract that. And if you want to harvest extra work from it, you definitely need some positive acceleration. After-all, conservation of momentum technically demands that all motion is perpetual - it just becomes more disordered motion.
Side note: A cool alternate design for this setup would be to run electricity through the rails so that when the ball bridges the connection you get a rail gun. Safe? No. Efficient? Not at all. But it'd be a fun way to stump whoever opens this up looking for the linear electric motor.
Thank you for explaining how 2 bodies orbiting each with no other influence will still eventually stop due to gravitational waves. I tried to find this answer in the past without any luck!!
I want to buy that thing so i can make my physics teacher questioning life
Same
Fascinating, i perfectly understand that it is impossible but for some reason i keep on thinking, what if? I can understand people went crazy over this stuff.
If 6ou completely understand that it is impossible, then there is no 'what if'.
There a 'perpetual' clocks, hydraulic ham pump, drinking birds, than in some way its possible. You just have to extend the concept of perpetual machine.
@@canalRetro269 if you extend the concept, then it's not perpetual. Just like it doesn't work to extend the concent of UP to include DOWN.
@@canalRetro269 The clock use the change of temperature and pressure in the air.
The pump use hydraulic pressure that got lost in time.
The bird use evaporation and liquid temperature offset.
They are not perpetual at all.
By your definition, you could say that a car drive perpetually... Until it's empty
A bike move perpetually... Until you stop moving your legs.
Perpetual movement need to append without the need of external forces, it's the most important condition, else everything is perpetual.
@@pierrotA My definition is large but not soo large...
Action lab in 2 years: I think I’ve done it everyone, cold fusion!
It's notoriously difficult to replicate positive cold fusion experimental results. I think this is because the apparatus isn't actually detecting cold fusion, it's detecting ghosts. Only some labs are haunted, you see, and that's why you can't even move the device to another lab and replicate the positive results.
It is not cold fusion possible on outer space? I mean, like metals or some materials' welding?
Or do you want to say cold nuclear fusion??
Sorry my English is not the best 😅
It's fun to try and make creative perpetual motion machines.
They can be very educattional and entertaining to watch.
The thing that nobody talks about is that a machine doesn't have to move forever or be 100-110% efficient.
If you could make a machine 90% or even 50% effecient at a large scale that would be incredibly useful.
You got me at the first part. I looked at it telling myself "no this is impossible, it cannot work forever".
This reminds me of that experiment where they dropped 1 tonne of water into a hole and the water went higher then where it was dropped from
For real?
I suppose that's technically possible like if you created some sort of funnel so only a smaller amount of water received the energy then maybe only 500g of water receives the energy created by 1000kg falling. Not quite sure how you'd do that though.
Jetting is the phenomenon where a droplet is formed when something is dropped into water. And it can go higher than the original object because it is far less massive.
@@matthewtalbot-paine7977 the way i read it was that they dropped the water in a hole, made a splash, and ruturn (at the centre of the hole would be my guess) at a higher hight that of the one which was dropped.
Which i have no problems picturing it, without ever really trying to explain it. But if i had to make a guess...
something something vortexes, something constructing interference resulting something "focused"
It's not surprising, Bernoulli's principle applies. The hole constricted the water so the pressure was raised and it shot up higher.
@TheActionLab, what application did you use to make these "space" renders?
I think it’s a simultion game, universe sandbox i think
I love your videos dude! Keep up the good work my friend. I learn a lot from you ✌
Great episode! Very interesting
I've occasionally wondered if it would be possible to create something similar to perpetual motion using super fluids and/or super conductors. Like a super fluid in a glass doughnut shaped tube orbiting Earth, if that fluid would just keep travelling around the tube for millions of years or not. Since super fluids are very unusual, though I have no idea if they have absolutely zero viscosity or not. Apparently super conductors are suppose to have zero resistance, though I find that difficult to believe.
All of those things still require energy input to maintain the special conditions that create them, such as super cooling. The motion in the machine alone creates heat that will be absorbed into the supercooled substances. Radiation from the universe will seep in and warm the device to a neutral point. Gravity is also always a factor no matter how far you are from anything else, unless, as posed in the video, you're the only "thing" left in the universe...at which point there's no reference for detecting motion.
There's no amount or kind of insulation that can prevent the energy transfers that eventually lead to every system breaking down and motion stopping.
I've never seen anyone take one of these apart. I wish someone would.
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I know perpetual motion is impossible, and being able to generate energy make it even more unlikely. But I’m still intrigued by the idea.
The closest thing we have to that is the particle accelerater, and their recent discovery of putting in energy and it had more energy that was put out than put in so it's a groundbreaking discovery
There was a chap named Gene,
A perpetual machine was his dream,
He toiled and tinkered all day,
But his machines always went astray.
He wanted something that never ceased,
A device that could work without a grease,
So he built and built with great care,
A contraption that could spin on air.
He spun the wheel and flipped the switch,
The machine whirred without a hitch,
It spun and spun, faster and faster,
Gene thought he had found the master.
But as he watched, he started to fear,
The machine would never disappear,
It spun with an unyielding force,
Like a wild stallion without a course.
He tried to stop it, but to no avail,
The machine refused to be frail,
It spun and spun without a doubt,
Making Gene want to scream and shout.
So if you think you can create,
A machine that will never abate,
Remember Gene's cautionary tale,
And let perpetual motion go stale
Bravo!
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Damn
T-Shirt makes me chuckle every time...
You scared me! I thought I was going to have to forget everything you’ve said because you actually believed you had done it lol 😂
The hardest part about making a perpetual motion machine is working out where to hide the batteries and magnets.
Bruh action lab literally said it 5 second later i edited my comment
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Hate that part lol
Bruh 😎
Wait, why does your comment say 5 minutes ago but video says 2 minutes ago. My youtube is weird.
Here's my idea for a perpetual motion device. I have no idea if it would work, but here goes: picture a cog shaped like a buzz saw. The teeth would be collapsible to where it can for a smooth circle. On the teeth would be powerful magnets. This buzzsaw cog would fit perfectly into a box that has the buzzsaw shape you would embed it in. In this box, the teeth would have magnets that would push the teeth of the cog forward. Again, I don't know if it would work, but I think if done right, it could.
Ah, the old "rotating magnets", a cornerstone of perpetual motion pseudoscience :)
I'm trying to imagine your cog but I'm not sure why the magnets would push the cog around.
@@marasmusine because the box that fits the cog In has magnets on its teeth pushing against the teeth on the cog
@@marasmusine everything is pseudo science until it's achieved
The mistake I always make when thinking along these lines is the same one you've made here, J. You're thinking about how the magnets in the cog would push it forward, but you're forgetting that, before it gets to that point, those same magnets will be pushing the cog _backwards_ , as the magnets approach each other. :^/
@@gregmark1688 The good old action/reaction.
I honestly think, it's still amazing and fun to look at, even if we know it's actually externally powered.
They could have at least tried to get rid of the suspicious large black plastic block on the top. A transparent funnel with two or three metal rings for the acceleration (with all the magic hidden inside the metal parts) should be able to do the trick.
Go ahead
price point at the science center gift shop matters.
The funnel up top has nothing to do with it, beyond making the huge base look like a consistent design choice.
Is perpetual motion possible at quantum or theoretical level?
That's a good question
yeah, but you would need to create a system, that doesn't loose energy in any way, which isnt possible
It's not possible.
No, it's necessary.
In ideal condition, yes
anything possible at the theoritcal level 😂
The noise would drive me insane in less than an hour
Ya had me thinking there for a second.
Someone else thinks that the sound is so satisfying ?
It is the exact opposite for me, I cannot stand the sound, I can feel it in my teeth 😂
You hid the batteries really well, I'll have to admit. For a moment, I thought you somehow managed to "charge-up" that wire thing.
He didn't make this device.
The double slit test is trippy
Love your shirt!
Hardest part about designing perpetual motion machines: finding out where to hide the battery
Finally! about bloody time.
“Vandelay Industries” & perpetual motion? Subtle!
The shirt made me laugh. Great video. 👍
Love the shirt!
I made this in my school project and it blew everyone's mind.
"The hardest part of making perpetual motion machines is where to hide the batteries" - love this 🙂
I love your shirt, it took me a while to realize.
in the light speed simulation video you talked about the universe expansion. what prevents the matter or photons to slow down at the most remote locations? they have nothing to hit on their way?
The sound of the metal ball on the metal rail is excruciating - I can feel it in my teeth 😂
Ah, what a perfectly relaxing desktop ornament for my office! Now, I can enjoy the same sharp, aggressive and loud sound that is a chef aggressively honing his knives. It really soothes my nerves!
Always knew I can trust The Action Lab
Man I was about to start knocking on the wall to make my neighbor stop screaming but it was in the video!
This version of the machine is so much better than the one with a little wheel in the top that pushes the ball down the hole.
He had us in the first half, ngl
The cheap versions of that ball machine have a little motor/wheel combo that accelerates the ball instead of the magnet. They are loud.
Yeah, then people post videos of them online music instead of the sound to drive sales.
“You wouldn’t know it’s a hidden power source unless you take it apart” Lmao ya or you could just witness how insanely fast it speeds through those rails 😂
Lmao the transition into the funny part
I'm sure it could be possible to replace the hole part by a kind of coridor that would make the precess faster
i need this guy to be my physics professor
That's a pretty good little gadet there.
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In this case it's very easy to see that it's impossible because of conservation of energy: The ball cannot possibly bounce higher than it started, unless something gives it energy. Or, to be more precise, unless something else expends part of its own energy and transfers it to the ball.
did anyone else noticed the seinfeld reference on his t shirt, love it
Great channel. Very interesting. Clever bloke
The computer animation is really powerful 🙌
Your shirt made me lol.
@4:13 (4:;13 to 4;20) so, why do electrons go around a nucleus forever, take part in chemical reactions that give off energy and then continue to go around a nucleus forever? what would you call that?
Remember my definition of "perpetual motion machine": A kinetic sculpture with a very-cleverly-hidden source of power.
Wow.
This is way better than a laser pointer.
Give it!
I don't care if it's perpetual motion or a power switch all I know is I need to pounce it!
I could tell immediately that the ball was being accelerated beyond gravitational force
Vandelay Industries ROTF LMAO.
This guy is no "Steve Mould!"
"IN THIS HOUSE WE OBEY THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS"
This is the kind of title you'd expect to see on April 1st
Well done sir. Keep on chasing that goose. You'll get it someday.
Excellent display of chaos theory as the ball moves in the tray differently each time it lands on it before going down the hole.
Or...maybe it's displaying the conservation of angular momentum? Lol
@@thefuzzmanconservation of momentum doesn't explain why the ball lands differently each time. Watch Jurassic Park and get back to us. Chaos theory.
Harnessing energy from things that move perpetually like the winds or water streams is in a sense a free energy source.
Interesting point about the gravitational waves. How would this play out in practice? Would the bodies move closer to each other? Or maybe slowly drift apart? What about other forces? Does an analogous thing happen to electrons orbiting around a nucleus? I know they don't move in a circle as it is sometimes depicted, but presumably the electrons feel some sort of acceleration.
Electrons don't feel any kind of acceleration in (misleadingly named) orbit around the nucleus. Things get named in physics before people have completely figured out what is happening, and then we're stuck using these terrible names.
Anyway, this particular thing with the electron lead directly to the creation of quantum mechanics. Max Planck figured out that a bound electron could only "fit inside" an energy potential that was a whole multiple of a minimum wavelength. Basically, the energy is quantized. And later on people figured out... blah blah QM blah blah... the electron isn't like a tiny ball at a single location in time and space... Quantum mechanics actually says nothing at all specifically about particles. It only says there's a certain probability that you would measure "an electron" at a certain location (and other odds on some other locations), and... that's basically all it tells you. The probabilities are also wavelike, and can interfere with other probability waves.
I didn't want to write a whole thing about QFT and the history of atomic theory...
So, to answer your question. The bodies move closer together because they are falling down.
They can't fall down until they loose angular momentum (energy), and they loose energy via gravitational waves. (Essentially tugging on all of the other matter in the entire universe.)
@@juliavixen176 Thanks, that rings a bell. So what would happen if you just had two charges without them being part of the same atom? (As in, say, a CRT? Or differently charged ions moving around in space?) In that case, the electron would experience an acceleration, no? So this can never be stable? You have to keep investing energy to keep the charges apart?
@@giantisopodbeing accelerated and experiencing it are two very different things in particle physics. Photons, for example, don't experience time. They are absorbed the instant they are created, from their own perspective. They move at the speed limit of physics, causing the universe to age around them, while they do not. It's our observation of them in the matter "world" that is bound to time.
The atom as a whole experiences time and acceleration, but I'm not sure about all of its parts, especially if removed from the system. I suspect radiology has part of the answer - certainly parts of the atom do experience time, if instable atoms can decay into less massive isotopes and elements by shedding some of its parts.
Where can I buy one?
it may be possible to make a perpetual motion machine using static build up created by the friction of said ball if enough static energy can be obtained from the friction of the ball itself without loss ,but might only work in a vacuum chamber so air friction does not degrade the energy
You can't. You literally can't.
Great video as always. If the rock moves slowly enough, the photons from the front have the same momentum as photons from the back, so on average photons should slow down the rock very slowly.
Photons don't experience time. They move the same speed in all references to speeds of mass. In effect, the photons hitting the front and back of any object result in a net zero change, despite our experiencing them in different frequencies or color. (Red shifting, blue shifting.) That's not to say energy won't be lost in other ways, such as gravity or heat exchange, but light itself is special in ignoring most of the things that slow objects down, and won't be the thing that slows your space rock down.
You are right
What software application do you use to model motion of celestial bodies?
Very useful content sir, great
Another way you’ll loose energy in orbits, tho to a muchhhh lesser extent than gravitational waves, is heat from phonons created by *slight* differences in gravitational force. In fact, they may be so small they’re below a minimum threshold.
Perpetual motion machines always have unusually thick pedestals
It would be neat to see this gizmo run inside the vacuum chamber.
I knew it was to good to be true😂
I am so glad i resisted the urge to comment before finishing the vid 😁
Is it working like a railgun by sending a current through the ball? That looks like it might work except that the the two sides of the track seem to join together and create a short-circut at the top on the side away from the platform.
Hi. I think the ball triggers an electromagnet as it starts down the hole. That adds to its acceleration due to gravity. At the bottom it hits another trigger to switch the electromagnet off. Cheers, P.R.
There's no current in the rails, or the thing would be prohibited from sales in developed countries. (It also wouldn't do _anything_ measurable to the ball without being high enough power to be seriously dangerous...and possibly launch the ball through your ceiling.) All working parts are inside the base and the funnel is thick to visually balance out how big the base is. A magnetic switch of some kind activates a motor that moves a magnet to drive the ball. (Probably a pair of magnets to prevent vibration.) The noise of the ball on the rails drowns out any motor noise.
An alternate version of this could put all the parts in the funnel and not use a base at all, but it's harder to squeeze everything into the much smaller space. I notice not all of these have a flat bottom to the rail, so this one may have skimped a little on the motion control, while getting fancy with the hidden switch.
I knew some additional work had to be done on that little ball because it reaches higher than the height its dropped from... physics yeaaa boiii
where can i get one of these?
I was gonna say, that ball is moving quite fast when it comes down the ramp 😄 Looks like the video's playing at 5x 😂