The fact that Kate has manipulated and instilled hatred in her kids against the father and the fact that Jon encourages Hannah to maintain a positive relationship with her mother tells you everything.
That wife WAS a bully SHE treated him like a little boy i new that separation was coming that was plain to see i think she HATED him the way she treats him all the shouting
I think it’s terrible that Kate keeps in contact with her daughter but not her son. I think it’s disgusting that she has poisoned the rest of the kids and basically turned them against their father. That makes me angry personally because that’s what my mom did. Kate has a very VERY long history of being a very difficult person to be with and around and I just pray that her kids see the light and get away from her. And I KNEW Kate had an affair. It just didn’t make sense when they tried to put it all on John like that.
@@miac2382 Not so. She put him in the facility and then rarely visited. When Jon got custody, she didn't show up to court to reassure her son and say, "it's okay for you to live with Dad. I'd like to see you, maybe lunch or a movie." No, that didn't happen. If she can't control people or the narrative, you're OUT, whether you're her husband, her kid or her friend.
The fact that he has to call seeing his own children as a reunion and not just seeing them like a parent would normally be able to bc they’ve been so poisoned is heartbreaking
A loving mother would want her kids to see her ex but when your dealing with a toxic parent the kids become chess pieces. It became bout what's best for her as to what's best for the kids.
As a divorced Mom, I have learned the hard way that saying negative things about your child’s father is devastating and destructive to your child. Best to refrain.
My mother left my father for another man and then she started bad mouthing him. I stopped her and said you chose him not me. You chose to marry him and have kids with him not me. And now that you don’t get along with him you expect me to do the same and it’s not fair to me. I told her I didn’t want to hear anymore about it and if she felt the need to talk to someone about it to tell a friend or something.
@@raimeyewens7518 Well said, it's not fair for one parent to bad mouth their ex partner to the children. I can only guess how difficult it must have been for you to hear when your mom talked that way.
It is nice to see that Jon Gosselin is being realistic in regard to what transpired in his family. Also, it is refreshing to see Hannah making the decision to live with her father, and still communicate with her mother.
Hannah must’ve chosen to forgive Kate despite the treatment she received from Kate. But Hannah knows that Kate is still her mother and that’s never going to change and bitterness and grudge-holding will only cause her relationship with her mother to become more rocky
@@hollybock8463 I agree, especially when the maltreatment/mistreatment/abuse transpires behind closed doors and is denied. Children should have the RIGHT to choose, when they are old enough to formulate a clear, concise decision perhaps with the assistance of an unbiased therapist/counselor, or trusted adult who understands their situation. Children should NEVER be overtly or covertly PUNISHED for their choice, as to which parent they want to reside with. Children should not be punished for speaking FACT/truth about a situation, or their opinions regarding a certain topic, just because it does not align with the belief system (which may or may not be skewed/dysfunctional ) or opinions one, or both of the parents.
It's sad because if you watch the old shows he worked so hard and helped those children so much. Playing with them, cleaning, dressing, bathing, and tried hard to follow all of her rules and demands. It seems like any family that a reality show touches crumbles and gets destroyed.
@TomCat from what I understand...Jon never wanted to do the show in the first place. What was supposed to be a one time special on Discovery Health garnered a follow up and THAT led to the series that essentially became a phenomenon and put TLC on the map.
Not ''helped'' but raised and cared for them. Saying he ''helped'' implies Moms ''should'' do the most job raising kids and we have made progress in this regard... Also, reality show exposes the existing issues not creates them - and as tomcat said the fact that Kate pushed for this from the very beginning (and he wanted privacy) means that they already had serious issues and she was already controlling everyone and the family was not allright...
NOT a good man ~ HE WAS PLAYING AROUND WITH THE BABYSITTER / having sex with his babysitter while filming! This poor woman (Kate) had no help in raising 6 young kids! I would have lost it! 1 kid cries then 5 more are crying and you are responsible for all of them! I don't know how she kept sane! 💖KATE ROCKS!🌹
It is telling when children can live with their father and freely talk to their mother and the opposite isn’t true. Parental alienation is a serious issue and needs to be talked about more as the form of abuse that it is.
@Rachael Nelson , you'd be surprised how many addicts are in you're own personal circle. Those taking to many prescription pain or anxiety meds to those who always need a glasses of wine to handle the stress of the day.
One of the most despicable things a parent can do is make their child choose between their parents. Sad to see 8 siblings divided from the actions of their mom and dad.
@@LaraCroftEyes1 I agree and think Jon has handled the situation better than Kate has but ultimately they’ve failed their children by their inability to coparent.
@@LaraCroftEyes1 eh I feel like some of his comments were divisive in this interview. Like what is he free of now that they're 18? Child support? Why are you talking about what your ex did to you 13 years later in front of your child and calling her mother a Karen? They're both real shitty parents
Hannah used to be the closest to Kate and was often her shadow when she was younger. The fact that she chose to live with her dad is extremely telling.
Exactly! Hannah was so smart and outspoken. Back then they used to say she was gonna be a little Kate, but l knew different. lts always the one you least expect. Good for her!
Yes! I remember that too. Kate clearly favored Hannah because Hannah was the mini adult one who always wanted to help out at home. Of course Kate favored the one that served her, huh? 😂 I hope she took the news of Hannah leaving hard.
@@mssan2016 I think mady is a little Kate. She was literally always her mini me acting just like her. Hannah is just a sweetheart who likes to help everyone nothing like Kate.
@@SnapszDuhh We watched the show. Hannah was always trying to help Kate. There is video evidence, it's not hard to find, go watch the show. Their dad was the one who always had fun with them. That's probably what Hannah remembers.
I had my fill of Kate after the first season. What is it she said....Mom’s boring and Daddy’s fun. How about Mom’s psychotic on a good day. Dad’s reasonable, calm, fun, AND respects me. Most of the kids have such a hard road ahead. It absolutely breaks my heart.
I always remembered Kate yelling and screaming at John like he was a little kid and couldn't make his own decisions.. She became full of herself and still is .. horrible to turn your children against their own father . You can see John is telling the truth thank God he has a healthy relationship with his daughter and she's not all messed up .
John was a man child...Disneyland Dad...Kate had to make sure that everything was running smoothly. You can't have 8 kids running wild. As far as the affair I don't know but I can tell you I really believe that he was the one who had the affair first if there were any affairs going on.
There are two sides to every story but to completely alienate the children from their father is unforgivable! The other children don’t even talk to him. That’s just wrong. Kate did that. After my divorce I made sure my children still had a loving relationship with their father. You have to get along with that other person. You once loved them and you have children with them. You will need to see them for the rest of your lives through those children at weddings, holidays and other events. You need to get along with them.
I grew up watching Jon and Kate Plus 8 and what always stood out to me was how even keeled and chill Jon was, whereas Kate really seemed to crave control and make a big deal out of the little things. I just remembered she yelled at the kids and even Jon almost constantly and I know it was a show but it felt too raw and like it was really happening offscreen as well. It made me very thankful that my mom didn’t react to stress like Kate did. 😅 I hope the kids are doing well, especially the older girls. I am a twin and my heart always went out to Mady and Cara.
My. brother is very much like Jon, and his wife treats him horribly.... he confined to me that he feels mentally, verbally and physically abused. I wish they separated ....
Sorry McKenzie but I disagree. I think a lot happened before she snapped (plus she clearly had ocd)- remember there are many hours not shown... also it’s very difficult to be the “bad cop” parent or friend... I’ve traveled the world (largely alone, but sometimes with friends) and I can tell you as the “mom” of the group, it’s so much easier and stress-free when everyone is competent and on the same page- then I don’t have to be the “bad cop/mom” telling ppl we need to go! Do u know what it’s like organizing 10 ppl (including 8 small children) to go on any sort of outing (even just to go shopping)?? It’s a lot easier to be the “good cop/cool” parent and let all the responsibility and organization fall on the other parent- it’s never easy to be the “bad cop” parent 🤷🏼♀️ On her solo show with just her and the kids, you could see she was still stressed but better (and it’s probably bc she didn’t have to worry about another “child” aka her man child🙄)... I can’t even imagine having 8 kids (which of course requires a lot of organization if u want to get anything done or keep your home clean 🤷🏼♀️) ... she seems like a strict parent but she’s a pretty good one from what was shown- she made sure her kids ate healthy (I wish my parents had been as diligent as her with healthy food) and had their needs and wants met 🤷🏼♀️ I think both her and Jon speak poorly of each other (which isn’t good)... but also I believe in the past some of the kids had refused to see Jon- which is more than one parent bad mouthing the other 🤷🏼♀️
I love how Hannah is so grown and mature. It's so sad to see that they are separated from each other, but they're now old enough to make their own decisions. I can't believe they're 18!! I've watched the show since the beginning when I was young.
This came through in my thread and maybe my comment is going to be inappropriate but why is that young girl sitting there with her tits hanging out? I will never understand these young girls today and their need to expose themselves. The they cry when someone looks at them the wrong way.
I stopped watching the show due to Mother. Every family has problems but she clearly showed her true colours at all moments on camera. John did well with what he had to work with. Thanks for believing in your son John. Bringing that amazing young man home to you both might connect the siblings circle with boundaries, eventually. Mommy isn’t boring. Mommy sweats the small stuff and blows it up to be larger then her mouth. It’s called control. Kates way or the wrong way. She seems so over the top, controlling and disengaged with her family’s feelings and emotions. Good on you, John
WHOA, 18 already dang I still can't believe they are almost young adults. I wish all of them the best in their future endeavors, and I hope that all the siblings can come together as a family. Their dad should have been a part of their lives growing up because Jon was part of the process of giving them life (DNA).
for them to grow up with all their parent's drama, and for Hannah to realise how toxic kate was to her siblings, that's such a mature thing. it's unfortunate that her siblings didn't see it/good that they don't endure it, but i wish colin and Hannah all the peace in the world for their future.
Hi from Australia 🇦🇺 .... God bless you Jon and the kids Hannah you are beautiful 💕 Collin is a wonderful, forgiving young man 💜 I pray the siblings will reunite soon ❤️
@@lindamaskus5142 why do you feel the need to act like that?!? So, bc, the commenter chooses to believe Jon cheated and not Kate you, feel the need to ask them about their reading?!? Can't stand ppl like you! Instead of telling the person what you know or having a debate/conversation you go to childish insults. Says more about your intelligence than it does the other commenter.
I was a new parent when this show came on. I really, really enjoyed it. The children were all so cute! At first, I thought Kate was just overwhelmed when she would snap at Jon... not that it was ok but overtime it didn't change only got worse. The worse thing other than having Colin sent away is to keep the children away from Jon. The children will probably not all go to Jon at the same time but overtime it will happen. The children will all see just because they didn't make it as a couple Kate robbed them of having their father. BTW I am not surprised Hannah was the first to go to her dad. Hannah was always the little helper and nurturer of the children.
So crazy how he was so vilified as the bad guy when it all went wrong and publicly mocked so much. When really she was being manipulative and he was clearly dealing with the grief of losing his family unit
He really has been. The media really tried to ridicule that man. He had a tough time at one point, but who wouldn't. They tried to make Kate the saint, but l knew better.
He's a whiner who still blames his ex-wife for everything, including his own bad choices. There is nothing honorable about a man who sits there trashing his ex in front of his daughter no matter how big a witch the ex may be. He's doing the same thing he accuses her of doing.
OMG, Hannah is so beautiful both inside and out. She was always so mature and has grown up so nicely by the looks of it. It was really nice to be able to hear Hannah speak from her end about everything that has gone on with her family these past few years and not just hearing her parents speak for her anymore. Interesting how Hannah says how she’s always been closer to Jon when Kate claimed how Hannah was always her “mommy’s little helper” when she was little. Hmmm?? Now that the sextuplets are 18, I feel like this may only be just the tip of the iceberg of the truth that they will tell.
I agreed with you until you mentioned Kate calling her “mommy’s little helper”. She definitely helped her mom a lot and it doesn’t negate the fact that she felt closer to her dad….totally unrelated
@The Bright Nurse You are correct, and I’m sorry. It’s just that Kate always tried to make it seem like the kids liked her better than Jon I feel like. I just like hearing from one of the kids directly how they’ve always felt closer to their dad.
Can't wait to read the book(s) that one or two or three of the kid's will write in a tell all! That's the beauty of revenge when it comes to a narcissistic parent like Kate, kid's grow up, get revenge and choose the nursing home!🤣🤣🤣
@@marshaspell5148 he actually did a lot. It was that Kate was over the top controlling. They went to Crayola Factory and wouldn’t let them color. She wouldn’t let them eat ice cream on their own. Jon was more laid back and Kate didn’t like that. I could go on.
I’m so glad Hannah made the decision to live with her dad while the rest of her siblings stayed with her mom. She did what was best for her. Jon did a good job with her! Happy birthday, Hannah!!
When I started seen clips of the show on TV and I saw Kate I was like I'm not even gonna bother watching this show this lady looks like control freak and a narcissist now yrs later I'm watching this I was right all along.😂😂😂
@@mistytyndall3228 I don't think she allowed him to do anything, bc it had to be her way. She would get angry that he didn't help, but when he did, she would just bitch a t him and redo it...lol....what's the point?
I always knew she was the problem. She was awful to Jon and I was hopeful he would find a way out of that situation one day. I had no idea the kids were also being victimized. Very sad.
I completely agree with you. Everyone has flaws. Everyone makes mistakes. But the thing is, HE GREW from it. She stayed bitter and hateful and believed she was a saint and Jon was the evil one. The fact that Hannah realized how awful her mother is and deciding to do what’s right for her speaks volumes. Someone here said Hannah used to be Kate’s shadow and that it speaks so much to the situation and 💯 real. I’m so sad for these kids and Jon. They don’t deserve this.
@@Its_natalie.kate_here I think everyone deserves redemption if they are actively putting in the work ❤️ rooting for the mental health of all the kids. I applaud John for his efforts 💯
Kate will pay for college year right she paid for that big house and clothes and surgery on that face and body....poor kids she is like a drill seargeant
In interviews I've seen with Kate & the two oldest daughters, I can see the daughters are afraid of saying something wrong, or Kate speaks for them. In this interview, Hannah speaks her mind & Jon doesn't prompt her.
I relate to Hannah so much. My parents got divorced in 2013 and my mom is still bitter and angry. For years, she lied to me and my brother about my dad to turn us against him. Her best friend even believed her lies and told me stuff that I shouldn't have known (and most were lies). My dad was no saint, but he wasn't this monster my mom claimed he was. She knew that would damage me because I was/am a daddy's girl. I've always been closer to my dad. She knew turning me against him would hurt me, but she didn't care. All she cared about was getting back at my dad.
That's what my son,is going through with her ex. He only sees one of his daughters, every 2 weeks. The oldest, is very bitter,because of the lies her mother,has told her. I told my son, to stay calm,she'll come around eventually. His ex is married again,with a parolee. Karma,is biting her behind.
Yea my mother tried that crap with me. I had been a daddy’s girl since birth plus I had eyes and ears so it never worked with me. I opted out of the joint custody agreement at 16 and moved it full time with my father and cut off all communication with my mother at 20-21. Never had any regrets
I am so sorry. That is so gross. I know a lady that kept her kids father away from them with lies and they found out as adults. They no longer have anything to do with her. Toxic women can be terrible.
I am sorry you went or are still going through it. Sometimes, certain individuals who are getting divorced act more like children than their own children ! Right ?!? When two adults divorce, the children should NEVER become involved in solving the problems of the parent's marriage/divorce, never be used as a buffer during a volitole time, or hear one parent triangulate against the other, or with family members against their former spouse. Unless one of the parents is a psychopathic abuser, and is dangerous, there is little to no excuse for one parent to try and isolate their child from the other parent.
It's so sad when parents don't put their children first and alienate each other, talk bad about each other, put their kids in the middle of it, etc. My dad was very bad at this and my mother never said anything ill about him until I was much older. All the parents are hurting is their children in this situation. I don't know entirely what went on, I was a kid when the show was going on and I've never followed them, but the animosity they still hold toward each other has to be difficult and hard to handle even as an adult for the kids.
Currently my situation with my ex. To this day he blamed me for how his relationship is with our son but failed to accept accountability of his actions as to why things aren't good between them. I never spoke anything bad about to him to our son but he believes otherwise. Oh well what can ya do.
@@purplekiss48 I'm so sorry you are going through that. It is truly awful to go through as a kid and as a parent. All I can say it that hopefully your son will be like me and see through the bs and understand what was really going on.
Same, my parents had a terrible divorce when I was 14 mostly due to narcissistic, immature father. They were on opposite sides of the field at my high school graduation and he died a year later. I lost him and all his family but I think I got the better deal with my mom. It's so destructive putting kids in the middle but happens a lot. I was amazed when my husband's divorced parents could both be at family events with no animosity.
The abuse that Collin went through at the hands of his own mother was absolutely horrific to read from his mother's words (her confirmed journal entries). We've also seen Jon berated and shamed consistently throughout the years. Verbal abuse and parental alienation are really serious can really affect people's for the worse. I'm glad that they got out of that situation and I hope the rest of the kids get to do that soon as well.
Colin was always my favorite of all the kids. There was always something special about him. Glad to see him doing well and being taken care of properly. :)
I’ve always wondered about him being “special needs.” Watching Kate’s behavior, i always wondered “hmmm, i guess she can’t control Colin the way she controls the rest.”
My heart goes out to Jon because I believe Kate is a clinical narcissist. They are the worst people to have a relationship with, even without children. To co-parent with one is a hellish experience. Eighteen is very young and I think more of the children will reconcile with him in coming years as they break free from their Mother's indoctrination. Congrat's to him for surviving and finally graduating from family court .
It's very strange to clinically diagnose a stranger one has never met, nevermind evaluated, without a medical degree. I guess if someone diagnoses strangers online, pretending they're a doctor, that may be worth an evaluation.
The regular loveseat interviews of the Gosselin couple during the Jon and Kate Plus Eight series, where they would highlight episode events, along with their feelings and reactions, were some of the most cringe-worthy moments in television history, with Kate constantly, and systematically bullying Jon and shutting down his quieter voice and gentler personality. Wherever these two went to seek consolation and romance in another adult, it was never about the affairs, but it was about Kate incessantly picking on, drowning out, and bullying Jon. The eight offspring should review all the segments where their parents were together on that couch, and they will see what I’m talking about.
I was thinking the same thing. It would be wonderful if all the children watched those old episodes. Hopefully it would open their eyes to see how shamefully their mother always treated their father.
You go, Hannah! When Jon called Kate a "Karen" I nearly fell over. I agree with him - it's time for Kate to tell the truth and to stop alienating her children from their dad. That's shameful and abusive.
Hannah tried her best not to laugh, when John said she was the original Karen. I was laughing too.. Kate would always put Jon down and talk to him like he was a child
Actually it’s quite sad to say something like that about your wife in front of the kids... Kate raised them without his help... he’s a man child who never grew up 🤷🏼♀️🙄 if you’ve ever led a group, a partner who is a man child is THE WORST- worse than having another actual child to take care of- bc then there’s no want for your partner to be on the same page and pitch in 🤷🏼♀️ It really sucks when you have to be the responsible one 24/7 with no support 🤷🏼♀️ Even worse also having a man child that is constantly pushing your buttons
@@candicecart9786 I do not disagree with you, I also experienced that in the latter year of my marriage. Both he & Kate were toxic partners with faults. But when Hannah kind of laughed at his comment I couldn't help but laugh since what he said is true.
Very! That woman should have stopped being so selfish, and allowed the children to be with their father in those early years. The alienation she was responsible for is sad to say the least!
Let’s see 🤔a man child who Fs the nanny and a teacher... hmmmm I wonder what else he did that makes him a shit “dad”??? I would be mortified if my dad was doing the nasty with my nanny or teacher... no good parent would... esp while still married... I don’t trust anything he says TBH 🤷🏼♀️ Also I believe from the show that Kate did alone, she did try to keep her trash talking him to a minimum when the kids were present... kids aren’t dumb and they chose not to see or talk to him 🤷🏼♀️
@@candicecart9786 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️You must be blind, mute, or both. Kate's done A LOT to make HER an unfit mother.
Hannah has grown into an intelligent and beautiful young lady! I’m glad we got to hear her side of the story! I originally started watching Jon & Kate Plus 8 because of the twins and sextuplets! It’s pretty rare to see both sets of multiples in the same family! But when the show started focusing on Jon & Kate’s relationship falling apart, it just wasn’t the same anymore! Now that all the Gosselin kids are young adults, I’ll betcha we’re going to hear more stories from them about what growing up in the “reality spotlight” was really like in their eyes!
Some wounds can't be healed. What you may forgive an unaware stranger it is harder to forgive when a close and aware of your situation person betrays you. In my family you never showed vulnerability because they would use it against you in cruel ways.
It looks like they (Colin & Hannah) and the other siblings go to different high schools. That sucks, it would've been cool if they all go to high school together and have all the siblings together (individually) for the high school yearbook. I can't believe Colin hasn't seen his siblings in 5 & 6 years. Poor kid 😞. I feel like there are more things that we still don't know about this family! Like Jon said, "tell the truth & what are you hiding from"!
The part that upsets me the most is Kate couldn't handle raising one of her sons ( I understand this) but to put him in a treatement center rather than asking his father does he want to try and raise their special needs son is AWFUL on Kate's part. People often divorce but if you can't raise one or some of your kids then the other parent needs to be asked first if they can raise them rather than a child being put into a treatment facility with no family........Kate is suing her kids to try and get back at Jon......This is so wrong.
Time flies. Glad to see Hannah is doing well (& looks so pretty too)! It's good to be out of the spotlight & have a normal life. Best wishes to the family.
Kate is a crazy woman, always thought so. She was so mean and demeaning. When I watched the show, I always wondered why Jon was with her. I'm glad he's finally found happiness and can put that part ugly part behind him. The kids have grown to be beautiful and well rounded.
Kate was, and still is a narcissist from start to finish... Always had massive respect for Jon because I don't think a lesser man could have stuck it out as long as he did.
Overbearing and absolutely toxic. Jon couldn't complete a thought without Kate tacking on her interpretation of what Jon was saying, even in the early years. It was a feat of his patience and determination that they stayed together as long as they did.
Good for Hannah and Joel. Coming from someone who had a very similar situation and decided to live with my father, I pray those kids are happy on both sides!
REUNION REUNION REUNION!!🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽.... just so we can see the kids & their personalities. I feel like I was there for all those years & they have a SPECIAL PLACE in my heart. I have 4 kids & they were small as well during the show now they're 20,18,17 & 12). I couldn't wait to see how Jon & Kate parented while trying to figure out how to manage my muliple toddlers. I MISS THEM!!
Despite everything, Hannah’s attitude saying “they both love me so it’s fine” casually upbeat shows Jon and Kate are still doing way better than a lot of divorced parents. However, I had a parent tell people I had special needs too for awhile and that is NOT okay. Telling a child they have special needs when they don’t or telling them they don’t when they do will really mess up their head.
Kate is still his children's mother and he should respect that. No wonder some of them want nothing to do with him. Kate may have her faults, but she doesn't publicly put her ex-husband down.
Divorce is so hard on children. I hate when people claim children are “resilient” enough to handle it. No they are not. You’re deciding their family is no longer a unit. It’s destabilizing!! Then there are all the emotions of the adults that the children often have to contend with.
@@wishingyoupeace Yup. As some one who's parents stayed together "for the kids" but created such a toxic and abusive environment in order for that.. There was fights everyday. Home never felt safe and calm. Just chaos and anxiety.
@@unpredictaaable Your parents should have grown the hell up and stopped fighting for the sake of you as kids, not give excuses for why they bail on the family.
Jon was working 2 jobs at one point including cooking at TGIfridays making a honest living trying to shut the cameras out of his kids faces and Kate wanted the money at all costs.
These kids are intelligent and beautiful,I wish Kate ,regardless of what you two went through could of said positive things about each other and been more encouraging but we grow and learn ,I wish all your children could get along with both parents
I agree. I don't think it is healthy how either of them handled it. Even now even though the kids are adults, he shouldn't be talking about his ex in front of his daughter like that on an interview. Also Jon says he wanted privacy, but he obviously doesn't care what he says about Kate. He said it was untrue that Collin had issues, but yet he said his children had issues years ago. Both Jon and Kate have communication problems. Can't believe the sextuplets are 18!
It's hard to say positive things about the person who is lying about you, refusing to take responsibility for a separation that was their fault, and pitting your children against you while also alienating them from their father. I don't think anyone would have nice things to say about a person like that. Considering he was being interviewed and could have said anything he wanted, I think he did a great job not saying too many negative things with his daughter sitting right next to him. However, I do wish he had said he wouldn't discuss their mother in front of his children regardless of their age.
Plus, Hannah has clearly sided with Jon more than Kate over the years by the looks of it. I’m happy to see, however, that she still does live & respect Kate as her mother and has somewhat more of an open relationship with her. But it’s clear that things are still rather awkward between them both.
The fact they’re damn near adults now is crazy I feel old af. The sad part is when I watched the show it was like he could never do anything right, she was the one who was problematic. The kids will grow up and see the truth for themselves and they’ll regret all the timed missed with their dad.
It’s sad that Hannah and Collin don’t really get to see their other siblings. The ones who live with Kate should have a chance to see Jon as well and it’s awful that he tries to reach out but never hears back from them. I’m sure that hurts.
Do you think Collin cares? He seems to be a troubled person! Jon was having problems with him too! He doesn't talk about that! He was abusive to his siblings and continues his behaviors. Taking him to Dr. Oz did a shit load of good! Why did Jon do that? He loves the attention! Oz is the only one that lets him make a fool of himself on national television! What a man!
Omg!! I feel so old!! I remember watching these kiddos when I was a teenager and now I’m having my own child and they are 18 😳. Time flies!! Happy birthday 🎂🎉
The first time I stumbled onto their show I was horrified by how kate treated Jon. He should have gotten all the kids. She’s a horrible woman. Hannah is gorgeous!
There is a book out there--I don't recall the author but it has a white cover with chess pieces on it. It is an insiders peek at the machinations of Kate, who wanted to be famous for having multiples. So a fertile woman played infertile to get multiple embryos. He has receipts, too. You think she's bad now. Wait until you read the book.
I can relate to John. My ex does the same and instills hate towards me with our children. And I on the other hand, instill love to their father. I say positive things as much as I can. I stay away from the negative even though he deserves it. It's so sad. Kate needs to grow up. It's emotional abuse and she's hurting nobody but her children. And they don't deserve that
I don't get why a parent does that all I ever wanted was for my parents to show me everything was going to be ok...its hard as a kid.some parents just can't do it or one can and one can't but it's good to take the high road and always shine a light and talk good....smart move.
It's very meanspirited of the other person to use their own children to get at their former partner. When hate consumes a person from within they just see red everywhere and will do what they can to get back at their ex partner no matter what. The ones that lose out are the kids who just love their parents equally and are caught right in the middle n having to choose sides. I'm sorry Teresa that youre still having to put up with that and the kids also. I hope you find a way through it all.
Oh yes he’s great and she’s terrible he’s only trash talking his daughters mom right in front of her!! They both are idiots and don’t deserve to be parents! Why are adults so selfish and emotional if you have kids nobody cares what your ex did to you suck it up for your kids! It screws them up trust me
The fact that Kate has manipulated and instilled hatred in her kids against the father and the fact that Jon encourages Hannah to maintain a positive relationship with her mother tells you everything.
That wife WAS a bully SHE treated him like a little boy i new that separation was coming that was plain to see i think she HATED him the way she treats him all the shouting
@@shirleylambey1553 you are so right. And the fact that she basically exploited her children for money and fame is sickening
@@Luckyduck82180 it takes two to tango
@@ericpoeperic Jon didn’t want the kids to be exploited once he realized what TLC was trying to do. Kate fought him on everything.
Kate was Toxic from the Beginning!
I think it’s terrible that Kate keeps in contact with her daughter but not her son. I think it’s disgusting that she has poisoned the rest of the kids and basically turned them against their father. That makes me angry personally because that’s what my mom did. Kate has a very VERY long history of being a very difficult person to be with and around and I just pray that her kids see the light and get away from her. And I KNEW Kate had an affair. It just didn’t make sense when they tried to put it all on John like that.
She is a narcissist. They are the most hideous people.
Maybe he doesn't want to talk to his mom?
I thought John cheated?
@@miac2382 he said in his interview he’d like to have a relationship with his mom.
@@miac2382 Not so. She put him in the facility and then rarely visited. When Jon got custody, she didn't show up to court to reassure her son and say, "it's okay for you to live with Dad. I'd like to see you, maybe lunch or a movie." No, that didn't happen. If she can't control people or the narrative, you're OUT, whether you're her husband, her kid or her friend.
Jon confirming Kate was the OG Karen is everything to me 😂
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technically she is the original karen lmao. Everything about her from the complaining, the arguing, the hairdo, soccer mom minivan😭😭😭
Always wondered why the name isn’t Kate instead of Karen.
It was totally unnecessary to put that in at the end but I'm so glad they did
@@sounds0fmeows that's what OG means
The fact that he has to call seeing his own children as a reunion and not just seeing them like a parent would normally be able to bc they’ve been so poisoned is heartbreaking
A loving mother would want her kids to see her ex but when your dealing with a toxic parent the kids become chess pieces. It became bout what's best for her as to what's best for the kids.
As a divorced Mom, I have learned the hard way that saying negative things about your child’s father is devastating and destructive to your child. Best to refrain.
But Jon has no problem
@@bettyjones5994 nah he definitely does he’s hiding it deep down he’s pissed off and rightfully so
My mother left my father for another man and then she started bad mouthing him. I stopped her and said you chose him not me. You chose to marry him and have kids with him not me. And now that you don’t get along with him you expect me to do the same and it’s not fair to me. I told her I didn’t want to hear anymore about it and if she felt the need to talk to someone about it to tell a friend or something.
@@bettyjones5994 Did you even watch the damn show! Kate ass was the main damn problem!!
@@raimeyewens7518 Well said, it's not fair for one parent to bad mouth their ex partner to the children. I can only guess how difficult it must have been for you to hear when your mom talked that way.
It is nice to see that Jon Gosselin is being realistic in regard to what transpired in his family. Also, it is refreshing to see Hannah making the decision to live with her father, and still communicate with her mother.
Hannah must’ve chosen to forgive Kate despite the treatment she received from Kate. But Hannah knows that Kate is still her mother and that’s never going to change and bitterness and grudge-holding will only cause her relationship with her mother to become more rocky
@@repentandbelieveinjesuschr9495 why would you state that ? Some of us have been baptized multiple times already...
If you treat your kid terribly then the consequences is no contact. I don’t think shaming others for making that choice is really messed up.
@@hollybock8463 I agree, especially when the maltreatment/mistreatment/abuse transpires behind closed doors and is denied. Children should have the RIGHT to choose, when they are old enough to formulate a clear, concise decision perhaps with the assistance of an unbiased therapist/counselor, or trusted adult who understands their situation.
Children should NEVER be overtly or covertly PUNISHED for their choice, as to which parent they want to reside with. Children should not be punished for speaking FACT/truth about a situation, or their opinions regarding a certain topic, just because it does not align with the belief system (which may or may not be skewed/dysfunctional ) or opinions one, or both of the parents.
we have to remember hannah knows more than we, the public do. so ultimately it's her decision and we should respect it no matter what it is
Hannah is beautiful. Hope she and her siblings can reconnect one day.
Hannah sounds so well adjusted considering…
I'm sure they will. 😊💖
It's sad because if you watch the old shows he worked so hard and helped those children so much. Playing with them, cleaning, dressing, bathing, and tried hard to follow all of her rules and demands. It seems like any family that a reality show touches crumbles and gets destroyed.
They were a house of cards anyways. Kate really was the OG Karen
Regarding your last sentence, yes and no because imo, you have to be a certain type of parent to sign your family uo for that in the first place.
@TomCat from what I understand...Jon never wanted to do the show in the first place. What was supposed to be a one time special on Discovery Health garnered a follow up and THAT led to the series that essentially became a phenomenon and put TLC on the map.
Not ''helped'' but raised and cared for them. Saying he ''helped'' implies Moms ''should'' do the most job raising kids and we have made progress in this regard... Also, reality show exposes the existing issues not creates them - and as tomcat said the fact that Kate pushed for this from the very beginning (and he wanted privacy) means that they already had serious issues and she was already controlling everyone and the family was not allright...
NOT a good man ~ HE WAS PLAYING AROUND WITH THE BABYSITTER / having sex with his babysitter while filming! This poor woman (Kate) had no help in raising 6 young kids! I would have lost it! 1 kid cries then 5 more are crying and you are responsible for all of them! I don't know how she kept sane! 💖KATE ROCKS!🌹
It is telling when children can live with their father and freely talk to their mother and the opposite isn’t true. Parental alienation is a serious issue and needs to be talked about more as the form of abuse that it is.
Well said.
Did you know that the man that create the term "parental alienation" was a ped0?
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Exactly
Of course it isn’t the same. Shes doing all the damn work.
Im glad John got to resolve things with some of his kids. Good to see how happy his daughter is!
The happiest of the bunch. The most stable of the group. Thanks to her dad.
Add to that he also got custody of kid that needed special care from a parent and not a center.
Only 2 out of the 8.
@Rachael Nelson well you obviously havent listened to the recorded tapes then. Even her shrink said she is sick! #Go JohnnyDepp
@Rachael Nelson , you'd be surprised how many addicts are in you're own personal circle. Those taking to many prescription pain or anxiety meds to those who always need a glasses of wine to handle the stress of the day.
Jon never sugarcoated anything. I appreciate his rawness
One of the most despicable things a parent can do is make their child choose between their parents. Sad to see 8 siblings divided from the actions of their mom and dad.
Jon hasn't divided Collin and Hannah against their mother and siblings.
@@LaraCroftEyes1 I agree and think Jon has handled the situation better than Kate has but ultimately they’ve failed their children by their inability to coparent.
@@LaraCroftEyes1 eh I feel like some of his comments were divisive in this interview. Like what is he free of now that they're 18? Child support? Why are you talking about what your ex did to you 13 years later in front of your child and calling her mother a Karen? They're both real shitty parents
@@LaraCroftEyes1 it’s not even about that. When parents feud in general it messes with the kids.
Mom, not dad
She has grown, to be an smart young woman . I wish her the best !
Me too
Absolutely 🤗
I agree glad she went with dad
She is pretty, too.
Oh the irony
Hannah always loves her dad. She used to follow him every where as a child ...
She was actually stuck on Kate’s hip as a kid, she was even called mommy’s helper. Kate kind of favored her!
@@tammyjohnson4414 Right this is what I remember.
@@tammyjohnson4414 she loved both of her parents. Good little kiddo she was/ Amazing adult she is now
Well if she followed him, she def saw him Fing her nanny!!! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@candicecart9786 you’re just jumping on everyone’s post with this crap like anyone asked you shit about who Jon was fu*cking!
Hannah used to be the closest to Kate and was often her shadow when she was younger. The fact that she chose to live with her dad is extremely telling.
Exactly! Hannah was so smart and outspoken. Back then they used to say she was gonna be a little Kate, but l knew different. lts always the one you least expect. Good for her!
Yes! I remember that too. Kate clearly favored Hannah because Hannah was the mini adult one who always wanted to help out at home. Of course Kate favored the one that served her, huh? 😂 I hope she took the news of Hannah leaving hard.
@@mssan2016 I think mady is a little Kate. She was literally always her mini me acting just like her. Hannah is just a sweetheart who likes to help everyone nothing like Kate.
Hannah literally said she was closer with her dad and y’all are saying the opposite…
@@SnapszDuhh We watched the show. Hannah was always trying to help Kate. There is video evidence, it's not hard to find, go watch the show. Their dad was the one who always had fun with them. That's probably what Hannah remembers.
I had my fill of Kate after the first season. What is it she said....Mom’s boring and Daddy’s fun. How about Mom’s psychotic on a good day. Dad’s reasonable, calm, fun, AND respects me. Most of the kids have such a hard road ahead. It absolutely breaks my heart.
She was really demanding on the show!
@@moon_mint yep! And can you even imagine what she was capable of when the cameras weren’t rolling?
She is very rude😘
I always remembered Kate yelling and screaming at John like he was a little kid and couldn't make his own decisions..
She became full of herself and still is .. horrible to turn your children against their own father .
You can see John is telling the truth thank God he has a healthy relationship with his daughter and she's not all messed up .
She constantly de manned him. Castrated him, talked down tog and humiliated him ON SCREEN! Abuse at its best…. or worst.
nobody knows what he was like to live with. I am not saying she was right
John was a man child...Disneyland Dad...Kate had to make sure that everything was running smoothly. You can't have 8 kids running wild. As far as the affair I don't know but I can tell you I really believe that he was the one who had the affair first if there were any affairs going on.
I ALWAYS HATED THE WAY THEY SPOKE TO EACH OTHER IN FRONT OF THE KIDS! KIDS LEARN WHAT THEY LIVE, GOD HELP THEM!!!!!!! SAD FAMILY.......
There are two sides to every story but to completely alienate the children from their father is unforgivable! The other children don’t even talk to him. That’s just wrong. Kate did that. After my divorce I made sure my children still had a loving relationship with their father. You have to get along with that other person. You once loved them and you have children with them. You will need to see them for the rest of your lives through those children at weddings, holidays and other events. You need to get along with them.
I grew up watching Jon and Kate Plus 8 and what always stood out to me was how even keeled and chill Jon was, whereas Kate really seemed to crave control and make a big deal out of the little things. I just remembered she yelled at the kids and even Jon almost constantly and I know it was a show but it felt too raw and like it was really happening offscreen as well. It made me very thankful that my mom didn’t react to stress like Kate did. 😅 I hope the kids are doing well, especially the older girls. I am a twin and my heart always went out to Mady and Cara.
Mady was always a little beeoch, Cara was the nice one.
My. brother is very much like Jon, and his wife treats him horribly.... he confined to me that he feels mentally, verbally and physically abused. I wish they separated ....
That may have been a factor that when you have 8 toddlers it's impossible to be "chill".
John is no saint. He’s also a narcissist like Kate but add alcoholism to that.
Sorry McKenzie but I disagree. I think a lot happened before she snapped (plus she clearly had ocd)- remember there are many hours not shown... also it’s very difficult to be the “bad cop” parent or friend... I’ve traveled the world (largely alone, but sometimes with friends) and I can tell you as the “mom” of the group, it’s so much easier and stress-free when everyone is competent and on the same page- then I don’t have to be the “bad cop/mom” telling ppl we need to go! Do u know what it’s like organizing 10 ppl (including 8 small children) to go on any sort of outing (even just to go shopping)?? It’s a lot easier to be the “good cop/cool” parent and let all the responsibility and organization fall on the other parent- it’s never easy to be the “bad cop” parent 🤷🏼♀️ On her solo show with just her and the kids, you could see she was still stressed but better (and it’s probably bc she didn’t have to worry about another “child” aka her man child🙄)... I can’t even imagine having 8 kids (which of course requires a lot of organization if u want to get anything done or keep your home clean 🤷🏼♀️) ... she seems like a strict parent but she’s a pretty good one from what was shown- she made sure her kids ate healthy (I wish my parents had been as diligent as her with healthy food) and had their needs and wants met 🤷🏼♀️ I think both her and Jon speak poorly of each other (which isn’t good)... but also I believe in the past some of the kids had refused to see Jon- which is more than one parent bad mouthing the other 🤷🏼♀️
I love how Hannah is so grown and mature. It's so sad to see that they are separated from each other, but they're now old enough to make their own decisions. I can't believe they're 18!! I've watched the show since the beginning when I was young.
This came through in my thread and maybe my comment is going to be inappropriate but why is that young girl sitting there with her tits hanging out? I will never understand these young girls today and their need to expose themselves. The they cry when someone looks at them the wrong way.
I stopped watching the show due to Mother. Every family has problems but she clearly showed her true colours at all moments on camera. John did well with what he had to work with. Thanks for believing in your son John. Bringing that amazing young man home to you both might connect the siblings circle with boundaries, eventually. Mommy isn’t boring. Mommy sweats the small stuff and blows it up to be larger then her mouth. It’s called control. Kates way or the wrong way. She seems so over the top, controlling and disengaged with her family’s feelings and emotions. Good on you, John
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“She is THE Karen!” Lmfao 😆 💀 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The ultimate Karen of Karen' LMFAO
With a straight face too lol 😂
Lol
I am proud to be a Karen
@@karenbougher1219 I know very nice Karen’s, sorry the name gets dragged. But don’t worry we know the difference. 🫶🏼
WHOA, 18 already dang I still can't believe they are almost young adults. I wish all of them the best in their future endeavors, and I hope that all the siblings can come together as a family. Their dad should have been a part of their lives growing up because Jon was part of the process of giving them life (DNA).
( I was abused! I was abused )
They’re young adult 18
A young adult is a person in their teens or early twenties.
They are adults! They can join the military so they are fully grown adults '
@@MayISpeak they can also vote and get married too.....
for them to grow up with all their parent's drama, and for Hannah to realise how toxic kate was to her siblings, that's such a mature thing. it's unfortunate that her siblings didn't see it/good that they don't endure it, but i wish colin and Hannah all the peace in the world for their future.
They knew he wasn't anything but an arrogant piece of sh=t!
Hi from Australia 🇦🇺 .... God bless you Jon and the kids Hannah you are beautiful 💕 Collin is a wonderful, forgiving young man 💜 I pray the siblings will reunite soon ❤️
I can’t believe the kids are 18 😩 I’m old 😂 I wish both parents would be civil life is too short
This is so sad. Jon really missed out on time he will never get back with most of his kids. 💔 I’m glad he got time back with at least two of them.
It's crazy what can happen to a parent by another narc parent. The narcs are always so suave and charming. It disgusts me
He shouldn't of cheated.
it wasn't him.....read much?
@@lindamaskus5142 why do you feel the need to act like that?!? So, bc, the commenter chooses to believe Jon cheated and not Kate you, feel the need to ask them about their reading?!? Can't stand ppl like you! Instead of telling the person what you know or having a debate/conversation you go to childish insults. Says more about your intelligence than it does the other commenter.
I was a new parent when this show came on. I really, really enjoyed it. The children were all so cute! At first, I thought Kate was just overwhelmed when she would snap at Jon... not that it was ok but overtime it didn't change only got worse. The worse thing other than having Colin sent away is to keep the children away from Jon. The children will probably not all go to Jon at the same time but overtime it will happen. The children will all see just because they didn't make it as a couple Kate robbed them of having their father. BTW I am not surprised Hannah was the first to go to her dad. Hannah was always the little helper and nurturer of the children.
So crazy how he was so vilified as the bad guy when it all went wrong and publicly mocked so much. When really she was being manipulative and he was clearly dealing with the grief of losing his family unit
I really hope all the children get to see each other again one day.
Jon has always been very honest and straightforward. That man has nothing to hide and a lot to protect.
oh yeah why did he cheat on kate then ya he so honest right he a liar and loser father read the fact before you assume he such an honest dad
He really has been. The media really tried to ridicule that man. He had a tough time at one point, but who wouldn't. They tried to make Kate the saint, but l knew better.
😂😂😂😂
He's a whiner who still blames his ex-wife for everything, including his own bad choices. There is nothing honorable about a man who sits there trashing his ex in front of his daughter no matter how big a witch the ex may be. He's doing the same thing he accuses her of doing.
@Gardenplots she cheated. His behavior was a reaction to it.
OMG, Hannah is so beautiful both inside and out. She was always so mature and has grown up so nicely by the looks of it. It was really nice to be able to hear Hannah speak from her end about everything that has gone on with her family these past few years and not just hearing her parents speak for her anymore. Interesting how Hannah says how she’s always been closer to Jon when Kate claimed how Hannah was always her “mommy’s little helper” when she was little. Hmmm?? Now that the sextuplets are 18, I feel like this may only be just the tip of the iceberg of the truth that they will tell.
I agreed with you until you mentioned Kate calling her “mommy’s little helper”. She definitely helped her mom a lot and it doesn’t negate the fact that she felt closer to her dad….totally unrelated
@@leprincessuu ooo p
@dribbledrivedog That's a very smart and mature young lady right there. It's sad that this family has become fractured , though.
@The Bright Nurse You are correct, and I’m sorry. It’s just that Kate always tried to make it seem like the kids liked her better than Jon I feel like. I just like hearing from one of the kids directly how they’ve always felt closer to their dad.
Can't wait to read the book(s) that one or two or three of the kid's will write in a tell all! That's the beauty of revenge when it comes to a narcissistic parent like Kate, kid's grow up, get revenge and choose the nursing home!🤣🤣🤣
Hannah has grown up to be a mature awesome young lady. So proud of her. 💜
The difference between both parents with their children's interviews speak volumns.
I used to watch that show faithfully. Kate was always rude to John. Everything he did irritated her. She never realized how irritating SHE is.
she was raising 8 kids do you blame her? he was just sitting there doing nothing
complete disrespect of him.............
He was just laying around thinking she had to raise those kids by herself she basically was
@@marshaspell5148 he actually did a lot. It was that Kate was over the top controlling. They went to Crayola Factory and wouldn’t let them color. She wouldn’t let them eat ice cream on their own. Jon was more laid back and Kate didn’t like that. I could go on.
Y’all tripping. I watched every episode. John worked AND he was very involved in raising their kids. HIS FLAW was marrying that obnoxious witch.
I’m so glad Hannah made the decision to live with her dad while the rest of her siblings stayed with her mom. She did what was best for her. Jon did a good job with her! Happy birthday, Hannah!!
What did Jon do when they were growing up beside watching his wife do everything
Kate was something else and still is
When I started seen clips of the show on TV and I saw Kate I was like I'm not even gonna bother watching this show this lady looks like control freak and a narcissist now yrs later I'm watching this I was right all along.😂😂😂
@@alluringstar5910 she still is Gema morales a brute over the years people Change NOT her she's still the same not even years change her
@@mistytyndall3228 I don't think she allowed him to do anything, bc it had to be her way. She would get angry that he didn't help, but when he did, she would just bitch a t him and redo it...lol....what's the point?
I always knew she was the problem. She was awful to Jon and I was hopeful he would find a way out of that situation one day. I had no idea the kids were also being victimized. Very sad.
He was no angel back in the day either but I do want to give him props for being there for the kids that will accept him ❤
I completely agree with you. Everyone has flaws. Everyone makes mistakes. But the thing is, HE GREW from it. She stayed bitter and hateful and believed she was a saint and Jon was the evil one. The fact that Hannah realized how awful her mother is and deciding to do what’s right for her speaks volumes. Someone here said Hannah used to be Kate’s shadow and that it speaks so much to the situation and 💯 real. I’m so sad for these kids and Jon. They don’t deserve this.
@@Its_natalie.kate_here I think everyone deserves redemption if they are actively putting in the work ❤️ rooting for the mental health of all the kids. I applaud John for his efforts 💯
Jon???? What did he even do??? He was nothing but abused by his wife constantly.
Is that you, Kate?
What a good girl! Using that money for her education!!! I felt bad for these kids since day one.
Beautiful inside and out 🎁🎀
I saw an interview where kate said she will use the money from the show for the kids colleges..I bet that she doesn't have that money now
Me too..I would make sure every dime is there too lol
Kate will pay for college year right she paid for that big house and clothes and surgery on that face and body....poor kids she is like a drill seargeant
Yes their mom was Horrible
Wow Hannah is so poised and seems like a wonderful young lady. Hope her and her siblings do well and are happy in life; they deserve it 💞
In interviews I've seen with Kate & the two oldest daughters, I can see the daughters are afraid of saying something wrong, or Kate speaks for them.
In this interview, Hannah speaks her mind & Jon doesn't prompt her.
So happy to see and hear from you both!!
I relate to Hannah so much. My parents got divorced in 2013 and my mom is still bitter and angry. For years, she lied to me and my brother about my dad to turn us against him. Her best friend even believed her lies and told me stuff that I shouldn't have known (and most were lies). My dad was no saint, but he wasn't this monster my mom claimed he was. She knew that would damage me because I was/am a daddy's girl. I've always been closer to my dad. She knew turning me against him would hurt me, but she didn't care. All she cared about was getting back at my dad.
That's what my son,is going through with her ex. He only sees one of his daughters, every 2 weeks. The oldest, is very bitter,because of the lies her mother,has told her. I told my son, to stay calm,she'll come around eventually. His ex is married again,with a parolee. Karma,is biting her behind.
Yea my mother tried that crap with me. I had been a daddy’s girl since birth plus I had eyes and ears so it never worked with me. I opted out of the joint custody agreement at 16 and moved it full time with my father and cut off all communication with my mother at 20-21. Never had any regrets
I am so sorry. That is so gross. I know a lady that kept her kids father away from them with lies and they found out as adults. They no longer have anything to do with her. Toxic women can be terrible.
You’re going to be just like her if you keep talking about it
I am sorry you went or are still going through it. Sometimes, certain individuals who are getting divorced act more like children than their own children ! Right ?!?
When two adults divorce, the children should NEVER become involved in solving the problems of the parent's marriage/divorce, never be used as a buffer during a volitole time, or hear one parent triangulate against the other, or with family members against their former spouse.
Unless one of the parents is a psychopathic abuser, and is dangerous, there is little to no excuse for one parent to try and isolate their child from the other parent.
It's so sad when parents don't put their children first and alienate each other, talk bad about each other, put their kids in the middle of it, etc. My dad was very bad at this and my mother never said anything ill about him until I was much older. All the parents are hurting is their children in this situation. I don't know entirely what went on, I was a kid when the show was going on and I've never followed them, but the animosity they still hold toward each other has to be difficult and hard to handle even as an adult for the kids.
Currently my situation with my ex. To this day he blamed me for how his relationship is with our son but failed to accept accountability of his actions as to why things aren't good between them. I never spoke anything bad about to him to our son but he believes otherwise. Oh well what can ya do.
@@purplekiss48 I'm so sorry you are going through that. It is truly awful to go through as a kid and as a parent. All I can say it that hopefully your son will be like me and see through the bs and understand what was really going on.
@@rachelly00 thank you & he dies and he's only 14. I've tried my best to shield him from the bs sigh my ex but there was inky so much that I could do.
Man I am old. I was 23 when this show aired!
Same, my parents had a terrible divorce when I was 14 mostly due to narcissistic, immature father. They were on opposite sides of the field at my high school graduation and he died a year later. I lost him and all his family but I think I got the better deal with my mom. It's so destructive putting kids in the middle but happens a lot. I was amazed when my husband's divorced parents could both be at family events with no animosity.
Collin was my favourite kid ! So cute ! I pray he is well and fulfilled.
The abuse that Collin went through at the hands of his own mother was absolutely horrific to read from his mother's words (her confirmed journal entries). We've also seen Jon berated and shamed consistently throughout the years. Verbal abuse and parental alienation are really serious can really affect people's for the worse. I'm glad that they got out of that situation and I hope the rest of the kids get to do that soon as well.
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Colin was always my favorite of all the kids. There was always something special about him. Glad to see him doing well and being taken care of properly. :)
I’ve always wondered about him being “special needs.”
Watching Kate’s behavior, i always wondered “hmmm, i guess she can’t control Colin the way she controls the rest.”
My heart goes out to Jon because I believe Kate is a clinical narcissist. They are the worst people to have a relationship with, even without children. To co-parent with one is a hellish experience. Eighteen is very young and I think more of the children will reconcile with him in coming years as they break free from their Mother's indoctrination. Congrat's to him for surviving and finally graduating from family court .
100 percent agree with you! I hope they see how disgusting her behavior has been all these years.
I agree on the narcissist my dad is one, it’s sad how they move it’s hard to trust and love them.
I know Jon and he is a great guy who never deserved any of this
It's very strange to clinically diagnose a stranger one has never met, nevermind evaluated, without a medical degree. I guess if someone diagnoses strangers online, pretending they're a doctor, that may be worth an evaluation.
@@betsybabf748 you don’t need a medical degree to spot a narcissist 😭
The regular loveseat interviews of the Gosselin couple during the Jon and Kate Plus Eight series, where they would highlight episode events, along with their feelings and reactions, were some of the most cringe-worthy moments in television history, with Kate constantly, and systematically bullying Jon and shutting down his quieter voice and gentler personality. Wherever these two went to seek consolation and romance in another adult, it was never about the affairs, but it was about Kate incessantly picking on, drowning out, and bullying Jon. The eight offspring should review all the segments where their parents were together on that couch, and they will see what I’m talking about.
I was thinking the same thing. It would be wonderful if all the children watched those old episodes. Hopefully it would open their eyes to see how shamefully their mother always treated their father.
Congratulations Jon. I wish you and all the children the very best.
You go, Hannah! When Jon called Kate a "Karen" I nearly fell over. I agree with him - it's time for Kate to tell the truth and to stop alienating her children from their dad. That's shameful and abusive.
I snort-laughed when he said "she's the Karen, she is the original Karen meme", lol. 😆
Hannah tried her best not to laugh, when John said she was the original Karen. I was laughing too..
Kate would always put Jon down and talk to him like he was a child
Actually it’s quite sad to say something like that about your wife in front of the kids... Kate raised them without his help... he’s a man child who never grew up 🤷🏼♀️🙄 if you’ve ever led a group, a partner who is a man child is THE WORST- worse than having another actual child to take care of- bc then there’s no want for your partner to be on the same page and pitch in 🤷🏼♀️ It really sucks when you have to be the responsible one 24/7 with no support 🤷🏼♀️ Even worse also having a man child that is constantly pushing your buttons
@@candicecart9786 I do not disagree with you, I also experienced that in the latter year of my marriage. Both he & Kate were toxic partners with faults. But when Hannah kind of laughed at his comment I couldn't help but laugh since what he said is true.
He should be the bigger man and not talk mess about his ex in front of his kids. Other than that, she's an evil eoman
I can't believe all but 2 kids are willing to talk to Jon. THAT IS UNBELIEVABLY TRAGIC.
Very! That woman should have stopped being so selfish, and allowed the children to be with their father in those early years. The alienation she was responsible for is sad to say the least!
Yeah that really sucks. It must be hard on Jon to know that Kate has turned those kids against him. That’s tragic
Let’s see 🤔a man child who Fs the nanny and a teacher... hmmmm I wonder what else he did that makes him a shit “dad”??? I would be mortified if my dad was doing the nasty with my nanny or teacher... no good parent would... esp while still married... I don’t trust anything he says TBH 🤷🏼♀️ Also I believe from the show that Kate did alone, she did try to keep her trash talking him to a minimum when the kids were present... kids aren’t dumb and they chose not to see or talk to him 🤷🏼♀️
They may wake up, do not give up hope.
@@candicecart9786 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️You must be blind, mute, or both. Kate's done A LOT to make HER an unfit mother.
I always loved Jon. I grew up watching them, they’re like my little siblings.
Jon looks way happier he has a new spark in his eyes
Hannah has grown into an intelligent and beautiful young lady! I’m glad we got to hear her side of the story! I originally started watching Jon & Kate Plus 8 because of the twins and sextuplets! It’s pretty rare to see both sets of multiples in the same family! But when the show started focusing on Jon & Kate’s relationship falling apart, it just wasn’t the same anymore! Now that all the Gosselin kids are young adults, I’ll betcha we’re going to hear more stories from them about what growing up in the “reality spotlight” was really like in their eyes!
Hannah has always been like this. Always the calm spirited and easy going. Definitely a peacemaker. Always a Daddy’s girl.
Love Jon ,his children .God Bless this Family !
Wishing the best for the kids and their relationships with each other
She is the KAREN LMAO that’s truth… I loved the show and Hannah has always been my favorite .. She reminded me of my daughter a lot
Hannah and Colin Were Always Two Of My Favorites As Well .
I hope one day, they can all be civil and move forward. Sometimes, time can heal all wounds .
I hope so too especially for the sake of the many grandkids they will have.
Some wounds can't be healed. What you may forgive an unaware stranger it is harder to forgive when a close and aware of your situation person betrays you. In my family you never showed vulnerability because they would use it against you in cruel ways.
Hannah was an adorable baby on the show... She grown up to be a beautiful young lady... Proud of her!
He wasn’t lying that she’s the “Karen” meme.
I think John's a very honorable man! I wish him and his kids the best! 🥰
He cheated with their nanny and was passive
@@jacintafwambah8629 wait so they cheated on each other?
@@jacintafwambah8629 bet you would have too if you lived with someone always putting you down in public!
@@jacintafwambah8629 didn’t he also leave her with 8 kids to take care of and wouldn’t pay child support…?? And all these people are praising him
@@jacintafwambah8629she cheated on him first so he moved on.
I always loved Jon. I’m glad to see him happy.
Jon saying Kate is a Karen is amazing I love this for him lmao 😂
It looks like they (Colin & Hannah) and the other siblings go to different high schools. That sucks, it would've been cool if they all go to high school together and have all the siblings together (individually) for the high school yearbook. I can't believe Colin hasn't seen his siblings in 5 & 6 years. Poor kid 😞. I feel like there are more things that we still don't know about this family! Like Jon said, "tell the truth & what are you hiding from"!
I remember watching the show back in the day, I used to feel SO sorry for John watching how Kate would always treat him.
It’s crazy how grown their are 😭😭 we literally watched them grow up 🥺❤️
I want a “The Gosselin’s” tell all book!
Hannah is such a beautiful young woman I watched them as babies she makes me so proud!!
The part that upsets me the most is Kate couldn't handle raising one of her sons ( I understand this) but to put him in a treatement center rather than asking his father does he want to try and raise their special needs son is AWFUL on Kate's part. People often divorce but if you can't raise one or some of your kids then the other parent needs to be asked first if they can raise them rather than a child being put into a treatment facility with no family........Kate is suing her kids to try and get back at Jon......This is so wrong.
She's evil
Don't have 20 kids than....what a mean lady
They didn't have 20 kids had 8
@@denisedaviau4333 hyperbole
I am surprised that legally, she could do that..............
Time flies. Glad to see Hannah is doing well (& looks so pretty too)! It's good to be out of the spotlight & have a normal life. Best wishes to the family.
I cant believe they're 18! Hannah looks so grown up❤
I watched these kids grow up on tv and I really wish the best for them.
Kate is a crazy woman, always thought so. She was so mean and demeaning. When I watched the show, I always wondered why Jon was with her. I'm glad he's finally found happiness and can put that part ugly part behind him. The kids have grown to be beautiful and well rounded.
Kate was, and still is a narcissist from start to finish... Always had massive respect for Jon because I don't think a lesser man could have stuck it out as long as he did.
I always thought. If she treats him like that when cameras are rolling. How does she treat him when they are turned off
Overbearing and absolutely toxic. Jon couldn't complete a thought without Kate tacking on her interpretation of what Jon was saying, even in the early years. It was a feat of his patience and determination that they stayed together as long as they did.
with that many kids someone had to be the stern one.
@@TT-wj1kx No, not to her husband. She was an absolute beeoch to him, and it was very apparent on the show.
This is so sad. Praying for healing for this beautiful family. Hannah looked amazing! I hope all the children are happy and healthy. God bless them!
I loved that TV show. I looked forward to it and watched it all the time
How anyone can work with or see a second of footage with her and want to be with her in any way is beyond me
Good for Hannah and Joel. Coming from someone who had a very similar situation and decided to live with my father, I pray those kids are happy on both sides!
It wasn’t Joel, it was Collin
I love Hannah!! she's always been the sweetest & most caring lil girl 💕 so glad to see her doing well w Jon! praying always for only the best!!
So happy Hanna had the strength to speak up and go stay with her dad.
REUNION REUNION REUNION!!🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽.... just so we can see the kids & their personalities. I feel like I was there for all those years & they have a SPECIAL PLACE in my heart. I have 4 kids & they were small as well during the show now they're 20,18,17 & 12). I couldn't wait to see how Jon & Kate parented while trying to figure out how to manage my muliple toddlers. I MISS THEM!!
Hanna has grown into a beautiful well spoken young woman!! She has a bright future in front of her.
Despite everything, Hannah’s attitude saying “they both love me so it’s fine” casually upbeat shows Jon and Kate are still doing way better than a lot of divorced parents. However, I had a parent tell people I had special needs too for awhile and that is NOT okay. Telling a child they have special needs when they don’t or telling them they don’t when they do will really mess up their head.
It's also such an invasion of privacy. It's not the public's business whether her kid is disabled or neurodivergent in some way.
Awww, Hannah and Colin were always my favorite! I wish them the best.
such cute kids & it’s amazing to see them grow up so bright & sweet despite the drama ☺️💗
I used to watch them all the time. I'm so glad the kids are finally 18 and can walk their own paths ❤❤
same, didn't realize I was that close in age to them
Jon calling Kate "THE Karen" cracks me up lol
He is right.
He's right. The very very earliest "can I talk to the manager haircut" memes were photos of kate
LMFAOOOO he is right
Kate is still his children's mother and he should respect that. No wonder some of them want nothing to do with him. Kate may have her faults, but she doesn't publicly put her ex-husband down.
@@zzzbbbooo She did in front of the kids and the world in those confessionals all the time.
Divorce is so hard on children. I hate when people claim children are “resilient” enough to handle it. No they are not. You’re deciding their family is no longer a unit. It’s destabilizing!! Then there are all the emotions of the adults that the children often have to contend with.
Great comment/perspective. 👍
It’s difficult but living with parents who fight is awful too. Those who stay for the kids aren’t doing them a favor.
@@wishingyoupeace Yup. As some one who's parents stayed together "for the kids" but created such a toxic and abusive environment in order for that.. There was fights everyday. Home never felt safe and calm. Just chaos and anxiety.
@@wishingyoupeace The parents need to GROW UP and stop fighting.
@@unpredictaaable Your parents should have grown the hell up and stopped fighting for the sake of you as kids, not give excuses for why they bail on the family.
Jon was working 2 jobs at one point including cooking at TGIfridays making a honest living trying to shut the cameras out of his kids faces and Kate wanted the money at all costs.
These kids are intelligent and beautiful,I wish Kate ,regardless of what you two went through could of said positive things about each other and been more encouraging but we grow and learn ,I wish all your children could get along with both parents
I agree. I don't think it is healthy how either of them handled it. Even now even though the kids are adults, he shouldn't be talking about his ex in front of his daughter like that on an interview. Also Jon says he wanted privacy, but he obviously doesn't care what he says about Kate. He said it was untrue that Collin had issues, but yet he said his children had issues years ago. Both Jon and Kate have communication problems. Can't believe the sextuplets are 18!
It's hard to say positive things about the person who is lying about you, refusing to take responsibility for a separation that was their fault, and pitting your children against you while also alienating them from their father. I don't think anyone would have nice things to say about a person like that. Considering he was being interviewed and could have said anything he wanted, I think he did a great job not saying too many negative things with his daughter sitting right next to him. However, I do wish he had said he wouldn't discuss their mother in front of his children regardless of their age.
Plus, Hannah has clearly sided with Jon more than Kate over the years by the looks of it. I’m happy to see, however, that she still does live & respect Kate as her mother and has somewhat more of an open relationship with her. But it’s clear that things are still rather awkward between them both.
@LiveYourLifeExtra ,honestly what difference does it really make,let it go ,who cares who did what to who.
@@katiejohnston988 So it sounds like Hannah has some forgiveness in her heart towards Kate
The fact they’re damn near adults now is crazy I feel old af. The sad part is when I watched the show it was like he could never do anything right, she was the one who was problematic. The kids will grow up and see the truth for themselves and they’ll regret all the timed missed with their dad.
It’s sad that Hannah and Collin don’t really get to see their other siblings. The ones who live with Kate should have a chance to see Jon as well and it’s awful that he tries to reach out but never hears back from them. I’m sure that hurts.
Do you think Collin cares? He seems to be a troubled person! Jon was having problems with him too! He doesn't talk about that! He was abusive to his siblings and continues his behaviors. Taking him to Dr. Oz did a shit load of good! Why did Jon do that? He loves the attention! Oz is the only one that lets him make a fool of himself on national television! What a man!
Wishing both the best two gorgeous
kid’s. 💕✌️💕
Omg!! I feel so old!! I remember watching these kiddos when I was a teenager and now I’m having my own child and they are 18 😳. Time flies!! Happy birthday 🎂🎉
He seems like such a good guy . Happy for him
He cheated at his marriage
@@alicegauteng2358 she cheated on him, did you watch the damn segment or do you just choose to be that person?
@@alicegauteng2358 She cheated on him.
@@alicegauteng2358 nah I don't believe that but I would have she was such a slave driver
I love how Jon states that Kate is how the term “Karen” got started because it’s so true.
I really like how Hannah still keeps in contact with Kate.. and I hope to god that the kids keep in touch with John as well.
The first time I stumbled onto their show I was horrified by how kate treated Jon. He should have gotten all the kids. She’s a horrible woman. Hannah is gorgeous!
Idk how she's not in jail
There is a book out there--I don't recall the author but it has a white cover with chess pieces on it. It is an insiders peek at the machinations of Kate, who wanted to be famous for having multiples. So a fertile woman played infertile to get multiple embryos. He has receipts, too. You think she's bad now. Wait until you read the book.
@@freedom4063 I know she is not personality plus but what did she that she should be in jail, specific please.
@@ursulamullikin4723 she put her kid in some mental hospital drugged him up
@@freedom4063 Jon should be put in jail because he would rather sign his rights away than pay child support
I can relate to John. My ex does the same and instills hate towards me with our children. And I on the other hand, instill love to their father. I say positive things as much as I can. I stay away from the negative even though he deserves it. It's so sad. Kate needs to grow up. It's emotional abuse and she's hurting nobody but her children. And they don't deserve that
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I don't get why a parent does that all I ever wanted was for my parents to show me everything was going to be ok...its hard as a kid.some parents just can't do it or one can and one can't but it's good to take the high road and always shine a light and talk good....smart move.
It's very meanspirited of the other person to use their own children to get at their former partner. When hate consumes a person from within they just see red everywhere and will do what they can to get back at their ex partner no matter what. The ones that lose out are the kids who just love their parents equally and are caught right in the middle n having to choose sides. I'm sorry Teresa that youre still having to put up with that and the kids also. I hope you find a way through it all.
Oh yes he’s great and she’s terrible he’s only trash talking his daughters mom right in front of her!! They both are idiots and don’t deserve to be parents! Why are adults so selfish and emotional if you have kids nobody cares what your ex did to you suck it up for your kids! It screws them up trust me
@@mercy6305they're selfish
Happy to Hannah with her dad .. she has always been my very favorite 🤩
Prayers.good to watch you grown.