Porsche 928 - Avoid the Pain! Watch This!
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- Things to know before buying a Porsche 928 - PART 2
Not a ‘how to", lots of those already. This is 'the' video I wish I would've seen over 24 years ago, better late than never.
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At 30 years after leaving the factory my 928 had no mods, no rust, no fender or door dents, just a few minor nose dings from stones. Built like a tank, drove like a dream with the 5 speed.
You said it! 🔥🔥 Thanks for watching!
Finally..a 928 review by someone who knows the car. As a long term owner I can totally agree with all his comments.
There’s nothing like a Porsche 928!
Simon Miles thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Great information. I just bought a red '89 GT with 16 thousand miles on it. It's like brand new. Cost me $88 thousand USD. Doing a major service, replacing belts, pumps, tires, etc is another $15 thousand or so. I'll only drive it between March and end of Sept and swap it every other day with my 911 to keep the miles down.
Landon what an incredible buy !! 💥 After the service, that car will be ready to be enjoyed for years to come! As the years pass, you’ll grow to love it more and more..
Landon Barretto thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Landon I love to here these stories, that’s what it’s all about! 🔥🔥
Great video. I am not a Porsche owner, but I know enough about cars to know that your advice is spot on!
Thanks for watching John! More coming soon!
It’s great seeing these informational videos on the 928. I searched for nearly a year before landing one that checked all the boxes you mentioned. 1990 auto, 2 owner with mileage correct miles, and interior in great shape. You’re a 100% right about the low mileage cars. The ones I had inspected were pure and simply money pits. They are truly a drivers car. Keep these videos coming, and I’ll grab a bag of popcorn. Cheers...
1990 is one of my favorite years! Thanks for watching Mike!
I've Owned a 85 928 for 11 yrs now. Agree with most of what you said about them. Really enjoyed your videos. Keep them coming showing more of your cars. Also, please Include more of the beautiful blonde!
You got it!! Thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I just purchased my first 928, a 1991 928GT 5-speed. I am so addicted that I am already scanning online for my next 928! What a joy to own and drive.
Nice!! 🙌🙌 Nothing like the 928 GT, the manual on that one is amazing! Make sure the maintenance is up to date, and it’ll be a total pleasure to own! 💯💯
Fadi H thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Your videos are highly informative and entertaining. Thank you.
HT, thanks for watching! 🔥🔥 Much more to come, stay tuned!
I wish I would of seen this vid before I bought my 928. But knowing I have the skills and will be doing most of the work myself I’m not too worried but watching past and current owner comments helps me get a feel of what ownership is really like like long term with these cars.
Check out the Porsche 928 Rennlist Forums, you’ll find ‘how to’ instructions on every little thing….countless articles! The guys on there know their stuff, great resource for any 928 DIY.
Mark Beltran thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
thank you, some very good advice in this video. im looking at two cheap 928s, never owned one before and I will be paying particular attention to the interior.
Thanks for watching!
So happy to have found your videos on the 928. Love Porsches, the 928 is my favorite but was reluctant buy due to negative videos about maintenance costs etc... Fears now elevated!!
John Monreal thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Just found your channel. What a great and informative video. Thanks. keep them coming! :-)
You got it Bob! Thanks for watching!
Great honest video, from an obvious, knowledgeable P928 owner. Looking forward to seeing more!
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Lots of hard earned knowledge being shared in this vid, great job bro!
Thanks 🙏
1000% correct about the interiors. You will spend a fortune trying to fix an interior in these cars and it will never look right or feel like it's supposed to. Cheap and easy to fix the mechanicals like you said, especially if you can do the work yourself. These cars are great but never buy one with a roached out interior
You know it, most people don’t realize it until they’re knee deep…and a few years into a 928 restoration. Best avoid the pain and get a nice one, you’ll save money and time
Badgermilk thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Great video you are right about the maintenance, I’ve owned my 91 GT since 1998 and I have spent $87,000 in maintenance, no kidding, I’m not complaining because when I go through the gears, I can explain the thrill…
YESSS!! There’s nothing like ripping through the gears on a Porsche 928 GT!!
Jim Lucas thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
3:13 the GTS is a twin to mine. Thank you for sharing. Regards from Germany.
You have amazing great taste in cars! Greetings from Miami!
Man, great honest information right here.
Thanks man, got another 928 video coming out by this weekend! Nothing like Porsche 928’s!
George Will thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Great video ! Please make more !!
Will do! Thanks for watching!!
Love your videos!! Please make more 928 videos!!
We sure are, stay tuned! 😎
Will Washington thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Cool video. I own a 928 S4, S2 and 944 Turbo. Love these cars. Hi from South Africa 🇿🇦
Thanks for watching man!
Hi from Miami!
great video. I have 1987 928s4 w 50k miles on it mind condition for many years and keeping it forever. love these cars and also have 944s 1987 as well love them both. the funny thing is that many people always says oh i want 928 etc and they buy a junk and after it is a still junk only few clean 928 or 944 s left which is the way the prices are keep going up because not many clean ones left out there.
Nice!! Next video is on the 944/968’s, will be up soon! Thanks for watching!!
So true about the interiors from what I have been seeing. Just sold my two 944’s that I have had for decades and my dream classic Porsche has been a red, 5 speed 86 928S or an early 928 auto in silver (yeah risky business) but man is it hard to find examples that have good interiors.
Yes Kristian, it’s almost all about the interiors with 928’s. You can still buy a new dashboard from Porsche for about $2k US, but that’s just the dashboard...the Pod is an extra $900. How about the rest of the interior? Big $$$. Take your time and find the nicest one, they’re still many... Also, the hunt is part of the fun 😎
Thanks for watching!
What you say about the interior is So True!! -The most expensive aspect of owning a 928.
Indeed it is!
Aircooled Cowboy thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Man this is a great video. He is not lying about the interior. I have a 944 with tweed/vinyl interior and it cost me $600 for the original tweed fabric and vinyl from Germany for one seat alone…
Yeap! Plus getting it upholstered correctly is yet another battle. Good this is that the 944 seats on your car are very similar to 911’s of the era, easier to get right. Sounds like you’re doing a great restoration man!
P83 1983 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
So true about the interiors....!! I’ve never seen a retrim as good as the factory interiors... Either over restored (Paul Champagne) or terrible
Yess, you know exactly what we mean. Thanks for watching 🙏
You’re mileage may vary. My 928 needed deferred maintenance and parts are really expensive. $10k to $15k is the generally agreed budget to get a car current and reliable (just the deferred maint.). Especially if you want to drive them regularly and for big distances. True words about wiring and previous owner “upgrades” and sun damage. Very true.
Thanks for watching!
I have an 83, owner passed, sat over 10 years, interior is sun damaged, body cleaned up good. Topped off fluids, added fuel and marvel, replaced a couple relays and it started right up with a tap of the key. Excellent runner, shifts great, just a good, solid machine. Electronics all work!
Wow! Sounds like you got a great one!
Dieselpwr782 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Hi from France! Thank you for this testimony! We hear so often the opposite of what you say: maintaining a 928 is ruinous, run away! The 928 is my dream car since I was 13 years old (I'm now 46...). I always put the idea of owning one aside because of everything I read about the astronomical maintenance costs. Your video doesn't go in the usual direction, it's interesting. So thank you, I will continue to look into it.
Thanks for watching Christophe!! Don’t be scared of the 928, it’s an amazing car. Find one with up to date maintenance(so you’re not playing catch up), and it’s an easy car to keep up! And, very rewarding to own!
@@HernanSpeed No, it's not an easy car to keep up. A 1975 MGB is easy to keep up, not a 928. Look at the electrical on 1:35, it is a nightmare to fix. Most Porsche mechanics do not even want to touch them.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 I disagree..
@@upssidep9283 You can't disagree. It's a fact. Nobody wants to touch those cars. Period.
Thank you for these in depth reviews. Thinking about buying one of these soon 🤞
That’s awesome!! Chris G, thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
2 weeks ago on my 87 S4 the heat exchanger for the gear box oil ruptured in the radiator, auto trans oil in the engine coolant (looks like a strawberry milkshake), probably water in the gear box too. The radiator is not that big of a deal to replace, same for cleaning out the engine coolant, but the auto trans might need a full rebuild as the water unglues the friction material from the wet clutch plates. My radiator appears to be original and has been fine up until now but in hind sight probably should have replaced it.
Peter, it happens to the best of us. Don’t beat yourself up about this, it can happen on any classic. It’s a good time to upgrade the cooling for future peace of mind, it’ll be worth it...especially in Summer!!
Greetings from Miami, thanks 🙏 for watching!!
You’ve done a world class job with your videos. I’ve owned 5 Porsches, most recently my Panamera which I love. Some day I’ll add a 928 - if I can find the right one with a good internist as you advise!
I own my pristine 2015 Panamera because it comes closest to 928 (just with two extra doors).
Thanks Ron! We’re gonna do vids on all Panamera models this upcoming year! Stay tuned!
Ron Nehring thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Happy to provide you with any Panamera photos or B-roll for a 970.2 if/when needed. Great job.
Thanks Ron! Will be in touch soon
This was the best 928 video I’ve ever seen! I am considering buying one and this information was priceless! Question… which is faster? Automatic or manual transmission?
The manuals are faster, especially in the early cars….because early auto’s were 3-speed only. Not much of a difference in the later models, they’re both really fun to drive!
MrJommins thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
i bought one 3 weeks ago, it's a bit scary for me because it the first car i own for restauration. This video give me hope and reasure me, i already love this car, but i think it's way beyond what i could imagine.
Thank you !
Congrats! 🙌🙌 The Porsche 928 has the most ‘How To’s, especially compared to other Porsche’s. There’s articles and videos popping up every day! Join Rennlist 928 Forums, you can find valuable information going back decades!
Midou thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed i gonna take a look at it, thanks you very much ❤️👍
Bought an '88 928 S4 auto back in 2007 or so. It arrived off the truck with the timing belt tensioner light on... and thus it began. ;-) Turned out the timing belt service wasn't too big of a deal to do. Steering rack went next and surprisingly it wasn't that horrible to do either. Then the bearing in the torque tube went. That was, uh, a bit more work. ;-) Dropped the rear transaxle out of the car with the suspension in a friend's shop and got a rebuilt tube from 928 International. The only nerve wracking part was getting the new torque tube in to perfect spec to avoid crankshaft damage. I'm not mechanic but these cars aren't nearly as bad to work on as many say.
Yesss! Sounds like you’ve got that 928 in nice shape! 💥🚀🚀 At first most things can seem overwhelming, especially the timing belt…but it’s totally doable. The first time I did a timing belt was in 2001, and all I had was an old Hayne’s manual. Today, there’s incredible detailed videos on it! As more and more ‘how to’ videos come out, the maintenance ‘stories’ will start fading away.. (Try working on a new electric car). The 928 community is incredible!
S-CARS.ORG thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Great video! I just bought my first 928 based on this video. Is there a 928 club in the states? I’m in Los Angeles. Thanks
CONGRATS! 🍾 Love to hear stories like this! Start by joining ‘ Porsche 928 Owners group on Facebook, you’ll find many 928 groups on there… all great people. You’ll also find great local groups on FB, huge car communities out there in LA!!
Damien Beck thanks for watching! 🔥🔥 And welcome to the Porsche world 🌎
Bought my first 89' 928s4 with 60k in 96'...torque tube was a whirring so 3k later and a set of 993 rims and I was a go...
until my wifes brother wrecked it while visiting.got rid of that...eeek! Number 2 came along shortly after Allstate came correct on my
payoff and it was a 90' 928s4 6 spd black on black baby! OOOh that car was so fast! anyway traded for a 97 boxster when they came
out...blah how boring can one get? So I let Porsche go for 20+ yrs until recently I picked up a beuatiful 2000 996.1 with all the
maintenance done and I am back to being happy again...without the brother in law!!!!!!!
Love the story! Sounds like your back in the Porsche family! I bet lots of great adventures coming with your new Porsche 996!
Maxalwaysgoesbyboat thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
I ADORE the 928. Unfortunately, I disagree with you about the timing belt. Mine went shortly after servicing from a reputable place here in Miami.
Hi Jesus! Which shop? I know them all here in Miami.. Did they work on the timing belt, or just do service on the car?
Btw Jesus Homicz thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Looooove it 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for watching!
My grandfather hired me to sell his 928. I'm going to try and arrange a purchase. Wish me luck on my second classic!
Try Bringatrailer, great place to sell if the car is in great condition. Best of luck!!
Regards from Miami!
@@HernanSpeed sounds good! I'm going to inspect it, it's been garaged for years, but I might buy it if it's in good shape!
“Early manuals synchros are like glass”
Thrust bearing failure previously happened to my one unfortunately
Michael, sorry to hear that. Yes, as I mentioned it can totally happen….although still rare! If you’re watching these vids, something tells me your in the hunt for another one ✊🏼🔥🔥
Thanks for watching Michael G! 🔥🔥
Hi, I just came across your videos.
Long story short,...I am highly interested in buying a 928.
I am no Porsche expert by any means so, let me ask.
If I buy a good one a really good shape and parts are needed, does Porsche still make official parts for the 928?
You mention the seats and dashboard being cracked, does Porsche sell the dashboard and seats for the 928?
Thank you so much.
Yesss, Porsche is still making original parts + there’s also lots of aftermarket solutions for any issues. I think you’ll find that the Porsche 928 has more support/resources than most cars….it’s actually one of the biggest reasons to buy one: The Community. CHECK OUT: Rennlist 928 forums.
The dashboards are still available new, but you might have to call around different dealers. Most people want black, so that’s the hardest to find…but you can easily paint a new burgundy dashboard black with SEM Dyes (worth it!). Seats are not as easy to find, but if the car has under 100k miles…the seats should be perfect 💯💯
The best time to buy is the Winter, prices easily drop 15%-20%. Take your time to find a minty one☝️
Gary Segraves thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
My 1984 European model 928S was the best car I've ever owned. Manny F.
That… is my favorite, the Euro models love to rev! Thanks for watching Manual! 🔥🔥
Yeah when people touched or modified it when they should not have, may mess up the car.
Is there anything you can do to make the manual gearbox better on the early model?
I'm thinking of buying a 928 🙂
You’ll love an early manual 928! Define better? It’s already a great gearbox, it just should not be speed shifted. These cars were often driven like race cars, and well…the sincros don’t like that. But if the transmission on the car is shifting perfectly, chances are really good that it will stay that way for a loooong time. Hope you find a cool one, the hunt is half the fun!
Thanks for watching! 🔥
I read these 928's have to be driven not not stored as a memento. Things go wrong from it not being driven enough.
Correct, they prefer to be driven all year long. I’ve had small things go out from having them in storage, little things like window motors. The good thing is that most items are easily fixed/replaced, and lots of DIY tutorials everywhere!
It’s the Weather thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
How much does an accident history affect the overall value of a Porsche 928? I have recently found one in a guys garage that has been sitting there for 20 years. Time capsule immaculate interior. Exterior is beautiful, only issue that I know of that I’m concerned about is he told me there was a front end accident that was repaired prior to his purchase in the 90s
It’s part of its history.. Does it have a rebuilt/branded title? Or was it a fender bender? A CarFax will show if it was serious, or just a small accident. If the owner has the receipt of the work done, even better ✅
Nathan, thanks for watching! 🔥
Don't forget about those pesky torque tube bearings
True! 💯 💯 From my experience, that’s more of a maintenance item and most have already had them redone ✅ Good thing is that it’s very obvious when they’re starting to go, lots of great aftermarket upgrades too!
Larry Slaughter thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Honest Question, if i find a 928 with a bad interior and i plan to add new seats and re-do it, is it still ok to get one with a bad interior?
Hi Noah, checkout prices on interior parts in ebay. To redo a cracked Dashboard, it’s $1300+…just the dash, not the pod. That being said, there are lots of ways to do it on the cheap if you don’t mind it looking ‘just ok’. A plastic dashcap is cheap, but warps fast. You can also add 944 seats, they bolt on….but it starts looking… you get the idea.
Noah thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
It’s hard to find good cars. Also, do a video on the different models you owned.
Jason this is very true! The hunt for the perfect car is always fun though. Will do, many more vids coming up very soon.
what manual trans model years have the synchros like glass?
The Porsche made transmissions from 1978-1984 have the weaker synchros. They’re still great! But can’t be speed shifted like modern transmissions. If care is taken, they also last a long time.
The newer updated Borg Warner designed transmissions came in after 1985 + . These drive like any normal manual and very little attention is needed when shifting gears ⚙️
If you’re looking to buy a Porsche 928, I would go for condition first. If the car has been maintained properly, you’ll have lots of fun and nooo headaches😎
F Aitken thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
Thanks for the info!
Subscribe! Much more to come! 🔥🔥
🥲😳🥲 well I saw this video 2 weeks to late. I bought a 79 928 with 73k. Arizona sun beat the interior to crap. I thought it was going to be easy getting it restored inside now this vid has scared me. I hope I don’t end up regretting my purchase.
JJ thanks for watching! 🔥🔥 Congrats on your purchase! 1979 is a great year, it’s got the CIS fuel injection…simple-simple ( a good thing!). If the car is running well, restore as you enjoy. Half the fun in owning a classic is finding parts and restoring. Put up a search alert on Google for the dashboard/pod, those will be the hardest to find (but they’re out there!).
Don’t stress, it’s a beautiful car and when you finish restoring it… you’ll soon be looking for the 2nd one! 😁
Also, if you’re not picky about originality. Newer front Porsche seats will bolt right on, all 964 993 944 968 seats will bolt on… no mods needed! Boxster 996 997 seats will need the tracks modded, but it’s also done all the time.
@@HernanSpeed oh thank you thank you. I will check them out. The seats I’ve found on eBay out of another 928 were like $1500.
Yess, and I can tell you that they’re also probably not in the best shape either. You can also try searching on Facebook marketplace & groups…nice seats pop up from time to time
@@HernanSpeed yes someone in the 928 group on Facebook told me to go to 928intl and precision Porsche. They are both about 80-100 miles from me. Supposedly they are the best in SoCal. Thankfully I am somewhat mechanically inclined. My dad an I restored a 64 Corvair the only thing we sent to the shop was the interior and paint, but we pulled everything out and reinstalled everything ourselves. Motor and trans we took apart and put it back together in the back yard. I’m excited to tear into this 928. This will be my first project on my own
I like this video (and Part I) but the constant cuts are distracting.
Hi 👋🏻 Scott. It’s for CZcams’s algorithm, we removed all pauses. When we build an audience and aren’t as dependent on the algorithm, we’ll be able to make smoother paced vids!
Scott Newell thanks for watching!! 🔥🔥
He’s not wrong. The previous owner is always the enemy.
this is why you better buy a car in - original - condition, be it bad, but always better than a bodykit spoiled car.....
100% Facts! Thanks for watching Max!!
What nationality are they ? Brazilian their accents are interesting
From Miami! So… We speak bad English and bad Spanish 😆😆
Inaj27 thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed I love Miami 😆🥰
You know it! 😆😆
I guess I'm screwed. I just bought one with a bad interior 🤦🏿♂️
Don’t worry, I’ve also done it before..
I’ve discovered that the best solution is getting a parts car that already has a good interior, they pop up for sale all the time on FB marketplace.
Many of these 928’s get parked for extended periods, the fuel pump freezes and they get sold as non-runners. These are the deals if you’re willing to do the work. -Get parts you need, and resell the rest… You might even make a few 💵👊
@@HernanSpeed you just described the way I bought the car. It sat for two years and it's not running because of the fuel system. Thanks for the tip. I will definitely be looking that way.
You have wonderfull taste in women. Now you were saying something about cars?
So you're saying an automatic makes more sense than a manual?
The automatics on the 928’s are GREAT! The manuals are a little bit more fun, but the autos are fun also! The 928’s engine has so much flexible power, you’re skipping gears during normal driving on the manual anyways. Drive both and you’ll see what I mean.
If buying an auto, I’d go for the 1983+ years.. Why? Those are 4 speeds VS 3 speeds in the earlier cars. Big difference in driving. The transmission is a Mercedes unit, so it also lasts a loooong time!
Krzysztof Slowinski thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed thank you for replying. The 928 has been one of my dream cars since I was a little kid. Never got a chance to buy one but now I am really thinking of getting one. Thank you very much for the advise on the transmission. I really wasn't sure what makes more sense. The car definiately wouldn't be my daily driver so wouldn't use it a lot. I just want to own one of those beauties.
Love this ☝🏻 🔥🔥
Good info in the vid but if you're going to toss in a side pic, make it for more than 1 freakin second. It's like you're trying to do something subliminally. Very distracting. Slow it down and let it soak in.
Thanks for watching Terry. I know what you mean, I agree 100%. But... I’m doing this for several reasons, the subliminal part is only a small part. It’s more about the algorithm..
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I have an excellent porsche 928 gorgeous interior,runs great for sale hit me up
Problem is you don't explain why on your points for mostnpart
You’re right, I could definitely go deeper into detail on each point. I’ve tried to condensing each video because of the algorithm, but will definitely be trying out longer format vids in the future.
Brian Miller thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
BJJ it
Thanks for watching!
What the heck is with the meme edits. There is a point where it's too much, and you've far exceeded that limit.
Thanks for the feedback! I totally understand… We do it for the algorithm, it’s what works in retention. It actually could use more edits, Mr Beast has 47 cuts in a 30 sec video 🤯
We’re not professionals, learning as we go!
2 Bike is Life thanks for watching! 🔥🔥
@@HernanSpeed Appreciate you taking the criticism in the spirit with which it was intended. :)