is BUDGET induction cooking ACTUALLY POSSIBLE? Pushing my 12v Camping setup to its limits.
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- Is cooking with electricity just an flashy way to cook dinner or is it actually practical on a budget? lets find out!
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Essentially this issue comes down to the voltage of the battery getting too low when we are drawing the high current from it. As a lithium battery has a BMS (battery Management System) that is designed to keep all the cells happy and healthy as soon as the voltage drops below 11.3 power is cut. you would almost have a better shot using AGM or Lead Acid or Gel for this battery size as they do not have BMS and allow you to draw as much as the battery can handle! (this is not healthy for the lifespan of the battery and of course those batteries have many disadvantages compared to lithium). And as i mention this could also come down to the quality of the cells in the kings battery, or even the quality of the BMS but i think if you are buying lithium with the intention to cook using electricity i would be buying no less the 200Ah.
You shouldn't get a huge voltage drop with lifepo4 even with a .5c discharge 60amp should be fine id assume the bms is limited to about that with this quality of battery anyway id be measuring voltage directly at the battery and also at the inverter to see if your voltage drop isn't coming from there but thinking now its the bms cutting of not the inverter reaching a low voltage disconnect id say the bms wire size cant handle 60amps and thats where the voltage drop is coming from or a faulty cell the wire size on all bms's is usually undersized
im still in the ads but I thought the lithium had a built in voltage regulator also. even if high current draw ?
@@brentmcd12 no they have a bms battery management system to protect individual cells most bms's now have balancers too to keep cells in balance but if you look at a discharge curve even with a high discharge its a very stable curve untill you reach ethier end of the scale thats why its basically impossible to use voltage as a state of charge at 15%-90% voltages are near identical
May have already thought of it but is the gauge of cable enough for 50A plus? May find a bit of resistance is causing the drop.
Is there some kind of voltage regulator that could fix this?
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Pat this is what i think your issue is here. Your Kings 120ah lithium battery is only rated at 100A continuous discharge. 100A x 12v = 1200W. So if you have the cooktop running at 1200W that already maxes out the battery's discharge rate. There is simply nothing left for anything else (including the inverter itself). The simple fix for this is to add another 120ah battery and run them in parallel so that you essentially have 2400W of continous discharge. You also get the added bonus of the extra 120ah capacity.
Hi mate, i work at a battery manufacturer in Brisbane, and i can tell you something is up with either the wiring or the battery or the charger. A full lithium sits at about 13.8 volts, 13.1 is very low, just run over your charging system. The BMS cuts are usually because one of the cell banks has dropped too low, so yea, really check over your charging setup.
Agreed, I would have a guess there is some sub-par wiring either between the charging system and the battery, or the battery and the inverter. The voltage seems quite low.
Running the travel buddy at the same time is probably a big ask, but there is no good reason to why that 120ah (100A continuous, 160A peak) battery and the 1,500w inverter can't power that induction cooktop on the 800w setting (they use 850w at the wall on that setting)
Probably a good chance the wire included with the kings inverter is too small, and not sure if the inverter is running through one of those lever type breakers, but if so the voltage drop across that would be a huge contributor. Between the safety in the bms, and the internal fuses inside the inverter, a direct connection between battery and inverter with short cables and no breakers should be ok. If you do run a fuse, it should be a 200-250a class T.
A good investment when doing elaborate setups like this is a thermal camera, even a really cheap one, will help find faults or high resistance connections very quickly. Guarantee those lever type breakers will be lighting up like a Christmas tree. Also worth noting the kmart induction cooker on the temperature control setting pulses power, as do the wattage settings below 800w. The 1000w setting draws around 1050w from the inverter, and with conversion losses that equates to around 130a from the battery.
@@lexicase8805 If that was the case, the amp meter would also indicate 130 amps from the battery. It just seems like the internal wiring, the internal resistance, or the bms of the kings battery just isn't up to scratch.
I make batteries for a living, and i was pulling 160 amps out of a 100ah battery yesterday and getting 12.8 volts.
@@colinsmith6340 i think you're absolutely correct, i commented while watching the video and made an assumption, but yes for the bms to be cutting off like that it has to be internal. Looks like the free battery that was given to cover damage caused by a faulty product is now also faulty! Not looking good for kings 😅
Go buy a cast iron pan with a full cast iron handle wrap the cast iron pan in alfoil and mount it near or on your exhaust manifold while your driving then it's hot for when you want to start cooking remove the alfoil and it should be clean and ready to go
I'm running 2 x 120amp lithiums (Itechworld) with a 2000 watt inverter and ran a 1800 watt air fryer for 20 minutes pulling 185amps while the heating element was on as a test and still had 80 odd percent of the batteries left. Have since got a smaller 1300 watt air fryer and its perfect. Also use 2 x 200 watt folding solar blankets which put back around 22amps per hour
Sounds like the kings 120A lithium battery is 50A max continuous Amp draw and not 100A like on the website.
With your travel buddy at 4A and fridge at 2-3A when you go to 800w with the induction cook top to sits at the 45-48A mark, any higher it trips the BMS of the lithium battery.
The only way to fix it is to buy a proper lithium battery brand with real world tested specs or get another battery and run it in parallel so you have twice the amp draw capability.
Dude keep up this content it is awesome.
The travel buddy draws more than 4 amps or what ever he stated in the video. He had it pre heat for 45 minutes, cooking for 45, and extra cooking for 45, thats like 2+hours. Thats least 20 amps (10 amps an hour) and old mate said it only used 4 amp hours of battery. His battery monitor is wrong.
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Interesting video, some great ideas here.
I would have to disagree about the cause of your problem.
I have a 200AH lithium setup myself and was looking for a coffee maker to plug in to my inverter. The small Nespresso machines are 1300 watts so my 1,000 watt inverter won't do that.
The problem with going to a 1500w inverter is that my Lithium battery is rated at 100amp maximum draw, as is the Kings 120AH lithium you are running. This means that you can get a theoretical maximum of 1200w (W=VxA). When running through an inverter you will get losses due to the cabling and the inverter itself so it will realistically be closer to 1100w.
This, I believe, is the cause of your power cutting out. Your battery can hold a 160A draw for 10sec but it will not provide more than 100A for sustained periods.
Amps draw and Amp hours are two different issues.
The solution, if you have the space and the bucks, is to run two batteries in parallel thus doubling the available current.
Lithium batteries are available with higher current ratings but obviously cost more.
. doubling the battery won't allow 200a draw as each battery has an independent bms only allowing 100a constant draw. although it might stop the voltage drop his getting at 60a draw.
I would have thought the lithium wouldn't see that much voltage drop under that load. maybe the difference between high end cells and cheap cells.
@@mathewsimonelli1332 sorry mate but 100 +100 =200.
@@mathewsimonelli1332 spot on
@@Jack-is8xz will equal 200 amp hours not 200 amp of discharg current available
@@mathewsimonelli1332 it will work if wired in parallel. It won't if wired in series. The bms on one battery will not limit the other for current draw.
This old man enjoys watching yours and your cohorts videos - y'all really got it going on. It's great that you try this while home or local so you have familiarity with the process if needed when off remote. We run drills twice a year to see how fast we can load-out and then check inventory and re-stock anything needed. IMHO, electric cooking when remote isn't a good idea (should be reserved for emergencies due to being a power hog) - we keep at least 2 beefed-up heavy-duty home-made Copenhagen Solar Cookers behind the seats to use when there are no fire conditions. We also love our Stove-Tec Rocket Stoves and our Deadwood Rocket Stove when at the farm and remote.
For anyone interested in induction cooking - BCF sell 3 piece induction pot set, and 3 piece frying pan set, with removable handles. They're pretty affordable and pack down a lot better than pots/pans with fixed handles. Plus they're non-stick so you use a lot less water when washing up. I think i paid about $40 per set (but don't quote me on this).
Removable handles sounds awesome! thanks for the tip!!
Not listed at BCF. Got a link?
@@grahameroberts8109 it’s the wanderer non stick set
I have the same Andrew and they’re fantastic. I also have the non stick roaster. I tend to use the lid more than the base as it can be used as a griddle for salmon, haloumi, steak etc.
Yep we have this set aswel and it's Awesome
I run two induction cook plates with cast-iron and steel fry pans with a 300w solar panel that usually outputs about 200-230 watts into my 2000w battery generator. I never loose power cooking. I also have USB tent lights and heated blankets.
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Thanks for doing this, it's great to see what happens when you have a 100AH lithium battery set-up (which is normal) as opposed to some other youtubers who have 200-400AH set-ups and go on about how good it works. It confirms that I should just stick to my gas set-up (for now) and use the battery for basic appliances like my toaster and when I eventually get a second lithium battery, then think about using induction.
Great video, mate. I've been running inverter cooking on a budget system for a couple of years now. Hell, I even started with a Kings 100AH AGM and the inverter/induction cooking. Killed the AGM after some time, but it worked well.
The great thing about going electric is the maths. If you work out what you need with the math it will work. I don't know what your system consists of behind the battery to the inverter but if I was to take a guess, there is a large loss occurring between the battery and the inverter. Cabling size is crucial plus the distance of cabling has an effect on resistance. Resistance means heat, heat means loss. Your volt drop is because the inverter wants the amps/watts, it will try and take what it needs in amps/watts from the battery to service the inverter demand but because there is resistance, something has to give and that's volts. As the heat increases the resistance increases which makes the problem exponentially worse over time.
I now have a quality 200AH lithium but evolved from the 100AH AGM to a 100AH budget lithium. The cabling is AWG 0000 (12mm dia) with the longest length of about 500mm. Pulling 120amp continuous, the cables are just slightly above ambient temp to touch.
Enerdrive have a very helpful cabling table on their website to help with cable selection.
Your setup is excellent and it will work fine with the inductive cook top, but a few small details you need to take care of that are letting you down. First, check the voltage at the battery terminals with a multimeter. Turn on the load and see if it actually drops to 11V. If it does, the BMS is faulty or badly wired to the terminals. Kings need to replace the battery.
If that checks out ok, the voltage drop will be occurring between the battery terminals and the inverter. Check connections and upgrade them, check fuses and any kills switches from the battery to the inverter by measuring the voltage drop across each components terminals and finally check each cable, positive and negative from the battery terminal to the inverter.
The cables that Kings provides are way under size for 2kW as you need to allow for something like 200A when the battery capacity depletes and its voltage goes down to 11V when the maximum current will be drawn from the battery by the Inverter.
I suggest you run 95mm2 cable (for 3m return battery to inverter and back).
Nicely said. I run 95m㎡ cables directly from my 300Ah Lithium (200A max continuous) to my 3kW Inverter. It happily powers my 2400W Ninja Foodi Flip Air Fryer or my 2200W Induction Cooktop.
[Obviously being limited to 200A continuous I can’t run the inverter at max. I chose to buy one 300Ah battery instead of say a pair of 175Ah/200Ah or whatever].
Good one to test your system.👍 There's no greater peace of mind knowing what you're taking on a trip works its intended design. FYI... I don't preheat when cooking with a Travel Buddy. It just seems like a waste of power. I just chuck in the food and turn it on. I simply add about 20%-30% cooking time. And it works each time. I too am looking into induction cooking. but would need to upgrade my 1500W inverter to a 2000W version, for greater flexibility and peace of mind. Might look into a voltage step-up converter. Thanks for sharing. 👌
Another great one mate. Looking forward to the Big trip.
Love that you're testing budget friendly options! Here's my two cents... 100-120ah lithium battery is sweet for a typical set-up (fridge/ lights/ charging devices), could probably add travel buddy at a stretch, but you need to double the battery capacity (and solar in) to go 100% induction cooking. The whole point camping is to not have to worry or be stressed so I'll stick with gas/ fire cooking for now I reckon. Will keep the battery healthy for longer too, lithium is getting cheaper but not so cheap that I can afford to burn through them unnecessarily... PS. you can always add a basic windbreak to make your butane cooker more efficient, or cook downwind from your vehicle
Top advice, more batteries, more panels, especially with induction plates, kettles toasters, toasty makers, coffeemakers, foot spa’s coming on…
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Thank you Tony! that really means alot! :)
Another great vid mate keep em coming.Always fun trying out new mods and working out the best way to set yourself up for going bush or beach. Good idea to test your new mods before going away. One of the better mods i did was to change the ladder on the earlier foldout roof top tents from the not so great sliding ladder that came with the tent to a newer fully extendable ladder like the one on your rooftop tent. Very easy to change over and very affordable and seeing that the missus nearly fell off the old ladder(almost folded in half) because i didn,t set it up right first night we used it ,the new ladder made a huge difference and saved me a lot of suffering.
Thanks so much mate! I really appreciate it! Great idea!
good stuff Pat. We tried induction in our camper without success so now we use the solar for lights and refrig and pumps etc and do our cooking on a twin burner gas cooker with a single burner on standby. No stressing about our fridges not having enough voltage and no megabucks spent on system upgrades. We are a couple of old bushies as well so there isn't many fossicking spots we end up at that we cant have a campfire. I cant wait to see how all this fangled stuff goes on the big trip mate.
Thanks for doing this experiment for us!
Great show guys looking forward 👍
Congratulations, you are the only camping/4wd channel I've seen use a proper espresso machine. No pod machines or plug in milk frothers. Well done.
Great video, really enjoyed it and the information 👏👏
this has to be one of the best drawer systems in a "budget" vehicle haha. love it mate
Get a piece of 4mm mason board from Bunnings. They come in 2400 x 1200mm and you just need to trim it a bit to make it fit under the mattress.
Then you don't need the double mattress.
Last time I went camping with friends I brought some ply sheets and laid them on the gravel under the tent and swags.
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You are very lucky to have such a cool missus too mate for the journey,
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Another top video. Really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.
I would be cutting off the cig plug and putting on an anderson plug on the 12v oven.
Informative episode.👍 Great tip on the step up voltage converter for the Travel Buddy. Lithium is definitely the way forward. I'm looking at a 200Ah Lithium setup, as I'm looking into induction cooking too. I'm just waiting for my existing AGM battery setup to kick the bucket before making the changes. Though not sure once I've made the switch to lithium, that I'll be bringing a coffee maker. 😁
Thanks mate! means alot!
Great great great episode! Cheers guys.
I have a king's 1500w inverter and I have a 140ah agm set up. I only really use it for makita battery charging and I've used it for a sandwich toaster, I kept the car running while using it. I also upgraded the cables to a 2bs cable so It can handle around 200amps, should be less voltage drop too.
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Glad I found this episode, Thanks again boys.
And thanking his gf as well!
The induction cooker does not run continuously at the set wattage. The set wattage is to indicate how much power will be used in a hour. The induction stove pulses, using max power. The slower the pulsing the less power is used in 1 hour. The higher the setting the faster the pulsing and the more strain on the inverter and battery. The inverter needs to be oversized as well as the battery.
Great video very informative 😀😀😀😀really appreciate the budget aspect, considering my lack of $$$$ thanks 🙏
I love your videos, always informative and yeah I’ve got an old school dual battery set up in my 100 series but I will be upgrading to two slim line lithium batteries in the future so I can can run induction as it just seems to be the way to go.
well done for trying this out!
personally we're cooking off grid with lithium and induction. Its awesome. The biggest issue is definitely the battery in your scenario. I'm surprised the kings lithium is sagging so much with the load not even hitting its BMS max output. Bit of a stitch up on their part.
Get a good reputable lithium battery 200AH minimum.
Ensure max output of the BMS is greater than 100A
induction cooker should be able to boil and sear on about 1000w so not much need to go higher than that. (Breville -$50 goodguys)
Inverter will need large cables and to be mounted as close as possible to battery to minimise volt drop.
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Great video mate! Multiple batteries seems like the solution. Dash off road had a video a year or so back running into similar issues. Keep up the good vids
Thanks Joel! really appreciate the support! cheers :)
Loved this one boys!
That view is very nice. I like induction cooking .
Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it but you should get a cheap air fryer and give that a spin. I'm thinking of getting one for the ute as we use one at home all the time and it is great. I think the smaller 3.5L ones run about 1500w
Good to see. I've been following your adventures and thought of similar things (just was deciding on battery and inverter). I have the old kmart butane stove and also got the kmart fry pans which I see you finally got - they work great on the campmaster.
I'm a bit iffy on inverters and induction but I have bought a small breville espresso maker which I hoped to use eventually (was a fan of their dual boiler BES900) but bought a non boiler thermojet/instantaneous espresso machine similar to how all the smaller machines are.
For cooking backup as well as the kmart campmaster butane I also bought a Dometic Lpg baby grill as back up - CBP101. E: Also looking into an evakool DC40 drawer fridge/freezer to mainly use as a freezer. Because of your video I'm now looking into the travel buddy pie warmer too! I guess I'll need more battery capacity after watching this.
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Great video mate! Love the way you present/talk to us through your videos, very approachable! I'm most interested in the part where you talked about the coffee machine. I saw the power spec from that coffee machine's manual, and it says 1.4-1.6kW. I was wondering how did you get 60A draw from your battery at that power range? Or am I missing something?
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Thanks Brent! too kind! cheers :)
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I have an old Yamaha generator that I got for $50usd. I get induction for the most part but a small/quiet generator isn’t a bad idea. This thing is small enough to haul around so you don’t have to worry about all the problems mentioned. Great video though. Good content as always.
Be like camping in the city if everyone had generators and ran them 24hrs a day, they could be good if you’re way out bush by yourself…
I have a 1500w inverter in my 80 aswell but I use a 140 amp AGM BATTERY I can't even boil my kettle is a 1250w very frustrating so I use low wattage appliances like 850w toaster 1000w kettle 1100w coffee pod maker works for me keep the Vids up Pat and have a great holiday with your beautiful Wife to be cheers legends
Heya, I've bought an "Aussie Battery" brand lithium 330 amp/hr triple BMS. The amp draw is insane, from memory around 250 amps set up in 12 v system. Only paid $1800. Couldn't be happier with it. May be an option having a chat with these guys, doing an honest review for a free battery!! Never know, enjoy ya vids😁
A brilliant review mate and also keep an eye on your missus as she might have a go at taking over, keep at it kids.
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I went camping with a women who took a vacuum and hairdryer I thought that was over the top but you are getting there. Cheers Steve.
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got a very similar setup, custom 150ah lithium (200amp discharge) 2000w invertor and the kmart induction, i also struggle cooking with my battery, i have semi figured it out by putting a better DCDC charger to charge the battery while driving. helped hugely! current solar panel is 200w thats also not enough and will be putting on a 250w panel soon.. to help with when i base camp.. but i seriously think to have a sustainable setup cooking with elec is to have 200Ah lithium as a min!
Thanks for the info !! agreed!!
I’ve got air frier, microwave, induction cook top. But I’ve just got a simple generator from kings and it’s all been working well
The solution is perhaps to use a Remoska whilst you are driving powered by the alternator. The Standard Remoska is 470w and the Grand 580w confirmed with a plug in watt monitor. Brilliant bit of kit and FB has a superb group covering how to use them.
Something i quickly discovered making two coffees while camping, the standalone milk frothers from kmart froth twice the milk in half the time, and also draw 550w so less strain on the battery. Make your coffee with a mini espresso maker and the milk with the standalone frother and thank me later. They're only around $15, and make a really great fast way to make a hot choc as well
Love seeing these king batteries tested but if you read the battery's BMS max discharge it's 50A max continuous, that's why it was having fits
Firstly, your food looks absolutely awesome and so very tasty! (except the wedges, didn't have me 100% convinced with those, especially with how long they took haha! I'm sure they were awesome though!) I currently run everything through a 1300 watt 100 ah portable power station. All 240v (but my lights and a few other things are USB chargable). I initially looked at those portable ovens like you have, but ended up instead with a $79 oven (it's about the size of a microwave sort of) which I can cook pretty much anything in, no preheating required either. Takes pretty much the time of a "normal" oven to cook things too. Uses 1200 watts. I also got some cheap appliances from Kmart (microwave $52 uses about 1200 ish watts) and the best buy ever, their $22 sandwich press (1000 watts) which I can cook anything from toasted sandwiches, to steak etc. You might even be able to cook your wedges in there! To give you an idea, to cook a toasted sandwich, it uses less than 10% of my total amp hours. I got an induction cooktop from eBay which is good also for cooking - put a lid on top, will cook faster ;) I can do roast veggies also in the oven, which generally takes an hour, that uses 40% of my 100 amp hours. I've also made cake, boiled water etc in this tiny little 300 watt nostalgia brand pan (Kmart have them too, different name though they look the same - 15 bucks I think?). It's all 100% possible. I use no gas, no diesel - just the power of the sun. I haven't done a setup with the separate components like you have here, but am looking into doing that when I can in the instance I want to run a heater or aircon ever (currently have neither). Happy travels, and thanks for the videos :)
Im curious about that wiring job you did - splicing the new USB plug into the LED strip. Does the existing wiring and fusing work with the extra load of the USB ports? Also, what connectors did you use? Looked like mebbe electrical tape? I assume so. Just thought I’d ask. P.S. yer vids are awesome. I really appreciate and am able to learn from your speaking/teaching style. Works for me. Very approachable and inviting. Thanks for that. Keep it coming.
Love your vids i’m Aussie and i own a 80 series land cruiser
Thanks mate!!
You are doing a great job on testing cheap items, please keep it going from me.
You’re a natural, a funny and educational video mate, you’re giving it a crack and working it out too. Get rid of some of the crap out of the 80 for more panels, more batteries and a bigger inverter if you want to run the travel buddy, coffee machine and hot plate and god knows what else all at once, solar electricity is a numbers game and then hope for some sun… Even Elon can’t defy the laws of electricity… I’m like you, never thought I’d see induction, lithium, inverters in my rig, but binge watching videos like these, it’s happening, I’m excited and gas will become the back up.. I’m also colourblind so I don’t play around with electricity much, mix up wires and you can start popping electronics, but I do want to understand basic fundamentals of a good solar setup. Going against judgement and wisdom I’m going to give Kings lithium batteries and electronic gear a good go. Not shitting on their products but Kings gear can be 10 times cheaper than other brands, plus buying a Kings camper outright, I get a $2000 voucher, yeah, might need two trolleys..
Are you guys planning more travels and more product testing?
I run induction off my 1000w inverter and 125amp hour batter without issue. Inverter and battery are Enerdrive so good quality. Also have decent gauge and short cables from battery to inverter. Also have a travel buddy. Look forward to more of your videos.
What induction cooker are you using? Assuming its about 1200w max?
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Should also get on Somerville metal works and get the insulated and latched door. Helps a heap with heat loss through the travel buddy
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A bit late with my comment but for what it's worth. I have lived with off grid power for over 20 years and Lithium batteries are a game changer. Since I went over to Lithium, I have been able to run soooo much more from my system.
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Gday mate i really enjoy your video's . Just one question those panels you have there for showing what amps is being pulled from your battery and voltage where did you get them and are they expensive cheers
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Hey guys love your vids. would love a video on how you guys setup a wagon 80/105 series for touring as a couple.
I mean... Electric cooking is great and all but by the time you spend 5 grand on the all the tip gear to run it.. i bought a 175ah lithium slimline, run everything including the diesel heater all night in the winter.. and still only drop my battery to 80% which means it will last year's..
So this cost me around $1600 and compared to $5000 I still don't reckon I could spend $3400 bucks on gas.. for camping.. ever.. lol
Each to there own but I use a little all for adventure glass top butane fry pan and man you can cook anything in that little sucker, from meals for 4 people to just bacon and eggs.. and the pest thing about it is no more carting around a heap of pots and pans with me.. and there's 1 pan to wash up and that's it.. more time for drinkin beers 🍺🤙
That kings battery has a maximum sustained discharge of 100 amps. At around 12 volts it works out to be roughly 1200 watts. At those discharge rates the internal resistance in the battery will begin to show and will begin to drop the pack voltage + heat the battery cells causing everything to be inefficient. What you need is another battery in parallel (double the capacity + larger discharge) OR a bigger lithium battery rated to a higher constant discharge.
Exactly
This is my exact problem, and I'm finding a lot of variable induction cooktops cycle on and off at full tilt, rather than using less power on a consists basis
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Coffee machine mate? Wonder who chose that?😂 any bloke that’s had a really good coffee when camping because the better half insisted might complain but will definitely get on board😂. Great episode Pat,
Hey the dubble butane one from Kmart! It’s the best, yes it dubble the size but it’s dubble the cooker and has a full size hot plate bbq that can cook a 24 pack of snags all it once
for a moment i thought that guy just came to steal your pan with the omlette in it, but he's cool he just wanted to check out your system
I'm thinking its the battery quality letting you down, or you have voltage loss through your wiring. My previous setup had a single 100Ah DCS Lithium & 3000w Redarc inverter, I could hammer it with no dramas at all.... ever.
I've since moved that setup into my camper trailer (Kings btw, so can't label me a brand snob haha) with 4x VoltX 100Ah batteries so there's always enough headroom to support the inverter with a larger load, like a toaster & coffee machine running at the same time.
Travel Buddy's certainly need the buck-boost converter. Running them on 14.5-15v makes them perform way better.
Always enjoy your content, keep it up.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to make up a wind break for the butane cooker. Can be made out of cardboard but for durability can make it out of 2mm steel and some piano hinge. Inexpensive and effective.
Ha mate l agree with one of the other comments, you need to up the earth cable on the kings inverter as its way to small. I did that and l run a coffee machine at 1600w plus my travel buddy with no problem and l have a voltex lithium battery 100amp. It was a game changer for my set up.
Another great video, hey Bud, I had a 15v step up and it works great like you said, I got told you have to watch the operating voltage range of the step up if you have it hooked up and run the car as the cheaper ones only run at 12v input and could cause problems at alternator charging volts? I changed mine to a 8-40volt input - 13.8v step up to be safe, it could be rubbish but I just thought I would mention it, don’t want my 80 to burn down lol I would get rid of that cig plug too mate!
Thanks Mick! yes i heard about this too when looking into getting it, and you are spot on. The model i used, and the one i linked to in the description is "meant" to handle inputs from 9v-14v which is great and makes me feel alot better but I still isolated my set-up controller through a switch, so when the car is running its got nothing going through it and i usually use the travel buddy once stopped at camp, but yeah definitely something to look into ! i have used it when the car is running and all seems to work fine, but yeah good work on pointing it out! because there are some cheap ones that seem to only handle 12v input :)
@@AussieArvos Oh great work, I couldn’t believe how many were out there and of course the one I got said 12v only lol I have a Itech 120x Lithium and been running it for over a year and luv it, i can run my 80amp draw compressor out of it with my fridge and lights running, (no motor running) and it has never shut down, could be worth comparing max currant ratings etc between that and the Kings for example, I don’t run a inverter or I would test the sucker for you, really love you channel and all the effort you put into your videos, thanks so very much for all the help you have given us doing these projects, have a great trip, go the 80!
I'm always interested with what people like to cook with and how their battery system can handle it. But the more convient things get the more complex the battery system can become. I still can't go past a the bcf butane burner for the size and convience haha. Good job matey can't wait for the rooftop tent review
Too true Aussie but if you boil water and cook a lot you can burn through those butane cans pretty quick…
hope u guys enjoyed Frazer. we stopped going a few years ago because of the ridicules fire bans. we go to Moreton now n have wonderful camp fires every night.
Ahahahaah love the dayz shirt
I'd be really keen to see if you swapped for a different 120Ah lithium of a different brand whether you would have the same cut out. Great episode and it is making me think how large a system I will need to build. I want portability so it won't be a permanent installation more solar generator size. Cheers 🍻
I have an allspark lithium 100amp battery. And I have pulled over 100amp successfully using an enerdrive inverter without any severe voltage drop. Might be the cable size contributing to the voltage drop or just the kings equipment/battery not up to the task
Liam's face at 6:17 read "you're an idiot" 🤣
It is the battery output that is the limiting factor not the inverter. The Kings battery is only able to output 100 amps. If you had a itech for example they output 150 amps which would run your inverter properly at 1500watts. Because the Kings won't do the amps you get a hit on the volts. Hope this helps.
Your options would be parallel 2 x batties, I think the Kings bms should allow this BUT check or upgrade to a battery with more amperage output and a better BMS
You should look at buying something for the awning to block the wind
I love my butane cooker, I make Korean BBQ off it it's so good.