Will The 25HP TYM 2515H Plow? 2 Bottom Plow
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- čas přidán 1. 07. 2023
- We are testing the TYM 2515H over the next year. One of our viewers asked if it would pull our two-bottom plow. The answer is surprising and in this video.
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Great test with 2515 great video thanks Tony and Tanya
Glad you enjoyed it. I think I could tweet the plow and make it do better.
Interesting video, Tony. Thanks for putting it together!
Take care and God Bless.
Glad you enjoyed it. God Bless you and your family.
Thanks for sharing hope you have a great 4th
Great demonstration Tony! It was struggling some. Thanks for sharing! 👍
After watching the video I think it would have done better if I had set it up to cut a little shallower.
Good job Tony!
Thank you
beautiful machine
Enjoyed the plowing action, Tony. The little 25hp was using every one of its 25 ponies and still it was a bit of a struggle to break that ground but your maneuvering made the plow do the right thing. I don't know squat about plowing but sure enjoyed watching your plowing action. Loved the blue pig action with Gizmo. I may have to get one of those blue pigs since I have been raising kune-kunes for a couple years. Enjoyed a full-watch. Big thumbs-up. Have a great Independence Day, brother. 👍🏽🤠 7/2/23
After watching the video, I think I could set the plow up to not go as deep. I may plow under the corn once it's harvested.
I have the 2515R w weighted tires. I have passed a couple good deals on 2-bottoms Bc I wanted to make sure I wasn’t over working the tractor. Having seen this video, I think the 1-bottom is optimal but I have no doubt the 2-bottom on the 2515r would do it.
Thanks for showing! Helped me out for sure!
Remember, this is a two bottom plow with 16" cutters. There are plenty two bottom 12" cutters out there. It would do fine.
That 2515 is one tough Tractor.
Great video, Tony. All you need is Liquid in the tires and plow 6 to 7 inches deep instead of 12 inches. That little tractor is a Bad little dude.
Thank you. It's crazy how the smallest things change everything.
Yes you did again great video mate you say everything to a tee and show people how to do it and your dog is great but how is your cat? God bless always hope your family are doing well and safe.
Merlin cat is great. He is strong and healthy. He will never walk straight, but he doesn't know anything is wrong.
It was struggling some as you said. It was getting the job done though. I bet my two wheel drive JD 5045 e would struggle too. I need to get around to getting my tires loaded I’m sure that would help. Take care, Ben.
That 5045 would rip it up. I recommend loaded tires. It is a game changer. Tony
I’m pretty impressed. I think weighted tires would make a difference. I have a tiller with mine and will probably never try to pull a two bottom plow.
The 2515 pulls a 60" till well.
Awesome stuff, as always for plowing over high clay content, seems to work good for the ground u have there and only being 25hp. It would work well in a nice soily loom
Team Gizmo!
Hey Tony, watching this it looked to me like a 25 hp was just fine. You were breaking traction and your first assessment of not enough weight is correct. The second thing to look at is those tires. Turf tires are the wrong thing for this tractor pulling a plow. If you would’ve had R1 tires, it would’ve been no problem.
They are not turf tires. It has R4 tires. R1 would do better, but It was running out of HP. I am not a big fan of R1 tires for most jobs. We transition between gravel, dirt and pavement to often for R1 tires. I plowed again today. I played around with fine tuning the plow and adding a load of dirt in the bucket. It was better, but this plow is a little much for the tractor.
@@TonysTractorAdventure yeah, I mean r4. They just don't have the traction. Maybe the r14 that they put on the other tractors. They are a good in between R1 and R4
A good dog is one in a million you won the lottery 😁 I've done it can't cope with burying another 😢
You got that right! I would recommend to get another dog. Gizmo is here, because we got another best friend.
Allis Chalmers CA was 26hp stock, 29hp overbore kit. It was a 2 bottom rated tractor that could pull a 3 bottom plow in good conditions.
Pulling, it could do, but that was about it. Modern tractors can do so much more.
@@TonysTractorAdventure True of the B and the C and smallish IH and JDs of the day, but the CA was the first small tractor that came standard with hydraulics, live-ish PTO and a full complement of implements. It included traction booster function in which implements were automatically raised and lowered to keep traction constant and automatic delay for example to raise the rear cultivator later than the front cultivator. Every single implement of larger tractors was available, pickup plows, pickup discs, cultivators, belly mowers, brush hogs, sickle bars, flail mowers, rakes, balers, front end loader, grader blade, etc. If you wanted to be able to use implements of other vendors, there were ferguson/3pt hitch kits. It could have used additional remotes, but you can add those too. One of it's nicknames was "the biggest little tractor".
Why do all tractor guys love their dogs?
Good Dog
Yes he is.
She didn't do as bad as I thought, would have made a big difference if there would've been a little more moisture in the soil and the rears loaded. But there's still just something I still can't get over hearing a Hydro pulling a heavy load.It's like nails on a chalk board to me, I'm a gear drive kinda guy though.
What's the difference between the tym2515 and the Branson 2515? And do either of these models have a pressure limiting hitch
Wish you made hay would
Like to see if the 2515 will run a square baler
I think it would run a small square baler at a moderate pace. That would depend greatly upon if it was hilly or not.
I have a six bottom moldboard if you want to give it a try! LOL
That is a big rig.big HP needed.
Would hate to pull that down the road!
@@TonysTractorAdventure we pulled a 6-16 with a 806 Farmall and boy would it turn the soil!
That was hard on the hydrostat the way it was whining if you did that to much I'm sure it would get hot and that's the best way to do damage to it hydro's don't like being over heated
It always sounds that way. There is a common misconception that whining is bad in a hydrostat transmission. These transmissions are just about indestructible. I have 5. Really good friends that own TYM dealerships. Not one has ever been in a hydrostatic transmission. The failure rate is astronomically low.
Always informative.
thank y'all
Our pleasure!
It looked like you were running out of traction before running out of pull, sometimes. Do you think cutting the grass first would have made a difference?
I don't think cutting the grass would have mattered. After watching the video, I think I could set it up to cut a little shallower.
hey Mr Tony, I have a Kubota b3300su, which is 33 hp, I’ve been looking at plows and everyone I have talked to says get a one row plow cause my tractors hydrostatic transmission can’t handle a two row plow, after watching your videos and yes I’ve subscribed cause your videos are awesome, should I get a one row or try a two row, my tires are filled and I have same tires as yours, and I also have 4wd, I’m really confused after watching your videos and a bunch of other videos that show guys pulling two row plows with subcompact tractors and having no problems, your advice and thoughts would be much appreciated sir and keep them videos coming, Ty.
Hydrostatic transmission gets such a bad rap, but they are bulletproof nowadays. If you only have a small garden, then I would go with one 14". Your tractor should pull this double bottom plow with 12" cutters. There are to many variables for me to give you a solid answer.
Hey Tony.. I had a double bottom plow for my 35hp Branson 3510.. depending on the ground, it usually did good, but sometimes it took two passes to get it deep.. Are the rear tires filled with fluid of any kind..? Drop some PSI in them as well.. softer ride and more traction. Yeah.. it was struggling.. but if setup to cut 8 to 10"... it would be maxxed out.. but could do it. MY biggest plow job once was 2 acres. It was a fuel burner.. and then I rototilled it afterwards.. rototilling is slow going. It should have been disced after plowing. but it's what the customer wanted
This a demonstration. I will not do any modifications to it. I could lower the pressure some in the tires.
@@TonysTractorAdventure No mods..? is it not yours..? dropping the psi on them WILL make a big difference in traction.
Ag tires would help
I don't disagree, but they hurt in other areas.
It looks to me like you need to extend the right side lift arm down to level the plow side to side, and lengthen the third arm to level the plow front to back. Other than that if you had another 1000 pounds on the rear tires and R-1 tires you would have plenty of traction. Twenty five horse is plenty to pull a two bottom plow, but a gear drive transmission would work better for plowing.
Well that answer my question. Lol single bottom for my t25 it is.
That would be the way to go. LOL!
Does your tractor not have Draft? Maybe adjust the top link a bit longer leveling the plow a bit better.
Very few modern tractors in this size have draft control. Honestly, I can't think of one brand that does. It used to be much more common in older tractors, however it is not as widely needed in the modern day. I still like draft control.
What size are the blades on the plow? Im looking at a 2 bottom plow with 36 inch blades.
All the information is in the voice
Great video as usual……. So what size tractor do you think a beginner homesteader should get? 25 or bigger?
It really depends on what you plan to do with your tractor.
Your planned tasks will dictate what implements you need, and PTO driven implements will have a minimum PTO horsepower requirement to run them. That's going to factor into how much HP you need from a tractor. Your task size will also drive implement selection. For example, if you have 20 acres of fields that you want to mow periodically, it will take WAY longer to get the job done with a 4-foot wide mower (flail or rotary) than it will with a 6-foot mower. A 6 foot mower is going to require a bigger tractor to pull it than a 4-foot mower will. A 12-foot batwing mower is going to require a larger tractor still, but will get the job done in 1/2 the time compared to a 6-foot mower.
A good tractor dealer can help you pick the right size. If the sales guy isn't asking you these sorts of questions (what tasks, how big, how often, how much time do you want to spend), he may not be the right dealer for you.
Take care and God Bless.
@@theElderberryFarmer thank you so much for your response……I want to bush hog, plow a garden, start milling, clean out chicken pens, and build a shooting range… I assume a 25 horse will do most of that. I’m wondering if the milling might require a larger tractor with more lifting capacity? I have looked at several that have a backhoe attached, I’m strongly inclined towards one like that. Or am I wasting money?
@@BadJuJuAdventures1701 It's good that you have started to list out what you want to use your tractor to do. That should help you come to the right decision about how much tractor you need to buy.
The backhoe is a tough call. I chose not to get that because I didn't think I would be using it enough to justify tying up $6k or more in one implement. I figure I can rent a mini excavator many times for that amount of money, and not have a large implement to store and maintain.
When it comes to building a shooting range - you will find that a tractor is better at moving dirt than digging dirt. You can't really use the bucket to dig the way that you can with a skid steer. I've found that I have better success in doing dirt work by first using either a disc harrow or a tiller to break up the dirt, then use the bucket and front end loader to scoop and/or push the loose dirt. It works ok, but is much slower than using a skid steer.
I ended up getting a 50 hp tractor for my 21 acre homestead. I cut about 7 acres of fields every couple of weeks with a 6' rotary cutter, and I've tilled up about 3/4 acres of garden and orchard space. I used a disc harrow to break up dirt/topsoil for a 400' driveway, scooped it out with the bucket, and used a box blade and a landscape rake to spread the gravel. I've used pallet forks to move branches and tree trunks around after doing some selective tree removal.
My tractor is a Kioti DK5310SE with a hydrostatic transmission and a cab. I've been happy that I did not get a smaller tractor - but again, your situation is almost certainly different than mine. You may be completely satisfied with a 25 hp tractor. I might have been able to get by with a 25 hp tractor, but everything I do would take longer. Since I'm not getting any younger (or more patient LOL), I decided that my time was worth more to me than saving the money by buying a smaller tractor.
Take care and God Bless.
It boils down to three things. How much will you need to lift. How fast do you want to get done, and how much money do you want to spend. Make a list of what you will be doing. Make a list of implements you will need. The size of the implement will dictate how fast your job goes. Make a list of the tractors that will pull your implement needs me. Buy the right tractor. Buying the tractor should be the last part of the plan, but the first thing you buy.
@@theElderberryFarmer Thank you so much for your help. I know you are a busy man. I was thinking that a bigger tractor might be the way to go. Now I’m sure of it. Thanks for help…. Looking forward to buying a gizmo shirt!
Sweet 🏆 👴
Tony do you think that it might have done better if it had Agricultural tires on it?
Yes it would. There are other applications where AG tires are not the right choice. For me, R4 tires are a good compromise.
R1s instead of those racing slicks would have made the difference.
R1s are too aggressive for many money making jobs. It was a fun video to make.
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Put some dirt in the bucket, it helps with front tire spin
Plows were designed 4" to 8" tops. More like 6" is a deep plow.
I agree with you, that tractor is too small for that job. Will it do it once? Maybe twice? what about long term? the biggest problem i see is not horsepower but weight. I don't know if those tires have water in them but if they don't perhaps some wheel weights might help. My ford 3930 will bury all three blades and mold boards on my ford 3 point plow without even slowing down. Another point, you don't have enough pull to break the shear pins in the plow. If I hit a large root the tractor doesn't bog down but i will break a shear pin. I've always heard that rule of thumb is that it takes 10 horsepower per plow point. However, traction is a major factor with smaller tractors and that is a function of weight.
It will absolutely do it long term. This is a 48hp tractor turned down to beat Tier4 emissions.
On a flat surface, put 6 or 7" blocks under the left side of the tractor, and adjust the plow so it sits flat front to back, and side to side. make FINE adjustments from there.
I mentioned in the beginning, the adjustments are very limited on this tractor due to the shorter lift arms. I think I could make some minor adjustments but I don't know if I could get it all right.
Not bad really, Imagine if you had R1's with water and wheel weights. that joker would be turnin the dirt fine as wine. I really hate the industrial tires
R1 tires are much better for this type work, but I favor R4 tires.
Need Ag tires... .always question the hydrostatic verses the manual in pulling the plow. ..I have manual, hi low,with shuttle ....make sure of your hydo Tran is running cool....Trans expensive
It one of the most reliable transmissions made. It has a oil cooler too. See my next video.
I got a 28 hp Mahindra it pulls a 2 bottom great
There are many sizes of two bottom plows.
Does your Mahindra have rear ballast or weights?
3 point plows are hard to pull if it was a hitch style 25 hp could pull a 3/14 all day long but you can’t adjust fast enough on a 3 point to keep it going smooth
You are spot on right. Thank you for your comment.
A geared transmission might help some
A little. Two 16" bottom plows is a lot to ask.
Absolutely rt alot to ask
I just saw this comment, Tony, and thought the same thing, that a geared transmission might help. It does sound like the hydrostatic tranny is really against its limit, and I wonder how hot the hydraulic fluid gets.
Put six inch block under your right tire then adjust your plows level you will be real close . Your plows will pull a whole lot easier!
Set up 2 bottom plow?
Yup. Not nearly enuf weight. The sod is slippery too. Rear weight would help with all kinds of tools. That tractor has a honkin big frame for 25 HP.!
You need to send this video to rockhill farms. Hes john deere couldn't handle the 2 bottom plow.
Yes, sir. I seen it. I am good friends with Brock.
Reading either the Ford or the Ferguson plow book would help you a lot. Can’t tell in the video, but you shouldn’t be using your stabilizers. The plow will track properly behind the tractor when set up properly. The beams should be level with the ground for and aft and left to right when the plow is at depth. The wheels on your tractor need to be spaced properly also. There’s a lot to know, so do your self a favor and read up on it because the plows pull much easier when set up properly. That plow is a Ford 101 plow and is probably supposed to have a rolling landslide on the rear bottom. By the way your plow doesn’t have 16” bottoms they aren’t even 14” that plows beams are spaced for 2-12” bottoms, and an 8n ford will walk off with those plows.
I appreciate your insight.
They used to do it with a mule team so much for modern stuff I respect our ancestors so much more now than ever before we have it too damn easy🤔😠
I have seen mule teams first hand. Pulling a bottom plow with a mule team is absolutely miserable work for both the person and the mule team. It would have taken them most of the day to do what I did in a few minutes.
Level your plow. Its tilted to the left. Put your tractor in the first firrow you plow then level using adjustrrs on your lift arms. The back plow bottom is running too deep. It will pull easier when leveled as both bottoms will be on same depth.
Thank you.
It's doing but doesn't seem like it could handle much more
I definitely needs to be adjusted more.
It looks like the front plow is deeper. a 14 " plow should be set at 7" deep.
Some more adjustments would help.
Actually you're about the same horsepower as an 8n Ford and they could do 2-12s, looks like you're doing 2-14s, it appears your weight is fine for 25HP, no need for any fluid in tires!
This has 2 16" plows. We had 9N and two 8Ns growing up. They couldn't pull through this soil with 32" of plow on their best day. They are great tractors, but soil type matters.
Probably would do better with 14" bottoms instead of those 16".
See the next plow video
Could have got you a bucket full of dirt for a little extra weight
You didn't watch the video. 😜
If you would take the front loader off, you would gain a horse or two.
That makes no sense to me. What is your thinking?
@@TonysTractorAdventure taking off the 900lb fel unit will make it feel like it gained a couple horses. Then loaded the rear tires would fix your lack of traction.
Taking the fel off will also transfer the weight from the front to your rear wheels. Which will give you more traction. Please try it and post a video on your channel.
I agree with your logic for the most part. I don't think it will gain HP, but it would redistribute the load. I did another plow video this morning. I wished I had read your comments before. I will try it this fall.
Hey, Thank you for your opinion. I like the little tractor for what it is, as do 99% of the owners. I would bet you have never used one, so we will all take your comment with that in mind. Enjoy your cat.
That plow is not even anywhere near set up properly…
Not really sure what your comment meant. Did you mean correctly? if you meant correctly, I believe I mentioned that it wasn't set up correctly in the video. It's hard to figure out a new plow in the garden. You're done before you really get it set up.
Ag tires would help
On this job.