We recently bought 7.37 raw acres. I have been looking hard at this tractor. I almost bought a JD 2032R. Glad the deal fell through. My wife is tired of me whining about being on the fence. She told me to pull the trigger on the TYM. Thank you, Tony for these 'test' videos. Looks like I'm gonna be getting a 2515H w/backhoe. Just need to find the right grapple for it.
I recommended the 2515 today to a guy I work with. I've been impressed by this tractor since the first demo I watched on it. It was definitely undersized for what you were doing with it but it kept going. Impressive. I bought the 494 HST and I love it. It does a great job every time. Thanks Tony. Gizmo is fun to watch too.
I seen right off where you went wrong, you wasn't holding your tongue just right out of the corner of your mouth! An old trick my grandpa taught me! Works for catching fish too when they don't want to bite! Good video bruh
Great video Tony!!! I love seeing things not go so easy and ideally. I am a new tractor owner. My very first tractor 2022 TYM T474 HST 49Hp. I love it! I appreciate the time you take to make these videos. I have learned a lot, A LOT! Thank you and great content.
Tony, once you got some shine on those plows it seemed to pull easier. I think with some loaded Ag tires it would slice that clay like butter. Enjoy your videos. Tim
Plow needs to be parallel with the ground left to right when your tires are down in the furrow. So tractor leaned over in the furrow but plow needs to be flat
@@TonysTractorAdventure shots from behind you plowing towards the end of the vid showed you still needed some more adjustment to level the plow out but the main issue was you just needed more tractor
Ploughing is a competitive pursuit for some Tony, like getting your tramlines straight! Lots of pedants take it very seriously, but to be fair it is a skill.
I understand. I am ok with people poking fun, but a few were just down right mean. It was new people that I have never seen respond before. We call them keyboard warriors. I delete that stuff and move on. I appreciate you supporting us.
I’m a competitive plowman…..but part of it is constructively helping others without being critical. The hardest place to see what the plow is doing is from the tractor seat
That Branson TYM 2515 is a beast! Didn’t think it could do it even at 6” of depth. Impressive, I think knowing your hydraulic oil max operating temp for the demonstration and checking temp would have been interesting. It was working pretty hard. Some weight in the bucket and 4wd low diff loc engaged would help the tractor pull the plow.
This was nothing for this transmission. They use the same transmission with a 40hp engine. It was in low and the diff lock was always used. Later in the video I added a bucket of dirt. I think it is punching outside of it weight class with this plow under these soil types.
I bought my 2515H after watching this channel and seeing the performance. We got it with a grapple, box blade, tip/tit, front/rear hydraulics..the works. Thanks Tony for your hard work putting these reviews and instructional videos. I love my hydrostatic and haven't had it bog down once. Tractor is a beast!
Watching you tinker with the settings reminds me why my grandfather had three tractors. He would set a fiddly implement like a sickle bar to work best and then never remove it. You could afford to do that with dime a dozen 8Ns and MF TO-30s.
I apologize if I overreacted to your individual comment. I had several people cursing me which I had to delete. It may have set my mood before I read your comment. Again, I apologize. It is not the first time I popped off in my life, but I am working on it. 😁
My hydrostat had absolutely no problems pulling anything I asked of it, the only time my temperature got even a little warm was when I was brush-hogging with it and the filters were doing their job.
You did about as good as possible with that little tractor. I'm amazed it accomplished what it did. I know the hydrostat will do it but a gear tractor is much better at putting the HP to the ground. I've got both a hydrstatic and a gear tractor - mowing the hydrostat is king - ground engaging implement give me the gear tractor. Great video!
@@TonysTractorAdventure Yes, construction equipment has many "degree' s " of Hydrostatic Transmissions. But this "small tractor design" is VERY SIMPLISTIC. IT does NOT use "Compounding Planetary Feed-back Modulating Gear-sets";= Very Complex. This small tractor ( under 75HP) only uses a SINGLE VARIABLE Swash-plate with multiple gear ranges ; Thus the "Tremendous Howling& Straining ". The ( simple Swash-plate designs) are VERY handy for just "light-duty" pulling,lugging& pushing. FYI; Excavator' s use hydraulic gear-motors ( with planetary's)on the drive tracks& house-swing assembly's. That hydrostatic drive tractor did SO MUCH BETTER with the Flail-mower, ( kind of what it was made for). Your 474 ,being much Bigger; handled the "plowing chore" much better; even though it is Hydrostatic Drive. This was a VERY good demonstration of what a small 3000lb ( base-weight) hydrostatic 25hp could do. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
Well Tony you never know what will work till you try . As far as your corn it looks pretty good for first time in Virgin soil but after you till it in the soil and mulch it come spring you'll have an amazing crop. Thanks buddy!
Very true. Next year will be better. We are going to amend the soil over the winter with chick poop, straw, and sawdust. It will take a few years to get it right. Until then, we will add more 12-12-12.
I was always told it's best to plant watermelons on fresh ground. I know my best watermelons have all come out of first year ground. then plant anything the next year.
@TonysTractorAdventure epically with the 2515r coming with Ag tires. Would drop in the furrows better as well. I prefer ag tires but the tires on my 2515h don't tear up my lawn like the ag tires on my 8n.
A 2515 Shuttle and R1 tires would pull that plow just fine. I pulled my homemade 2 shank ripper 16" deep on hard clay with my Branson F36Rn (equivalent to the 3515R) and it did just fine. No way the HST would pull that at full depth, may not even half depth, specially for any sort of long time work.
@@tacticalks4106 What most people don't understand is that the PTO HP listed on the spec sheet is for a stationary application, like using a PTO dyno. Once the tractor starts moving like tilling ground, the HST just falls on its face.
Meanwhile, I'm pulling my homemade 2 shank ripper 16" deep on hard clay with my Branson F36Rn ( equivalent to the 3515R in the US) just fine with R1 tires and 12x12 shuttle. I have no doubts the 2515 would pull that plow perfectly with R1 tires and Shuttle transmission.
I know this is an older video. But give you my experience . I have a Kubota L2501. I have an older 2 bottom plow think its a 12". It pulls fine. Not perfect but gets it done. Soil has tons to do with how the tractor will perform. I have sandy soil here in North Florida and its much easier than lets say the red clay in GA, AL or your soil in Tennessee . Enjoyed the vid.
Another FINE "Vidio" on how to "Torture a Hydrostatic-Slip-a-matic ". That IS A LOT of "plow " fer that size of Tractor; if it was a "gear-drive" it could of just "made it" WORK. This was a "Excelent Try " , but just was "SKIMMING the surface ' for the Plowing Adventure with this 25 horse-power "Big hydro-static Twack-tor ". Thank you Sir;& Tawnya for the Excelent vidio. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
You know, less than one percent of TYM tractor's Hydrostatic transmissions have ever failed in the first 10 years. Ever! When wear items fail, thousands of hours in, they are easily repairable. I don't understand why people feel like hydrostatic transmissions are inferior. Almost every piece of construction equipment is hydrostatic. There are virtually no downsides other than a little HP loss compared to gear. They are 100 percent better for loader work. I am not beating you up personally, but there are a bunch of false ideas rolling around about Hydrostatic transmission.
As a retired certified Cat&Cummins knuckle buster and farmer I don't disagree that the little hydrostatic tractor is trying to do the job. But you are asking it to do to much!!! Rule of thumb on 14&16 in. plows is 20hp per bottom. On the farm I had a two,three,four bottom plows plus a 7 or 8ft. chisel plow and always tried to use a tractor match! Also watched a video that a Kubota dealer aired about hydrostatic vs gear. Clearly stated hydrostat cannot do the same work pulling as a gear. My suggestion is unbolt one bottom and I believe you will be AMAZED a the difference!!!
This was only a test. The big plow is for my bigger tractor. I don't think it would be prudent to take my plow apart for another test. I do however have some new footage coming with a different plow.
You make you happy it's your tractor you make the payment not them lots of people get mad because they don't money to buy one so keep doing a good job you know what you do thanks for the video
I think you are right you need exactly the size the old 8ns would have used, or get a single bottom. A chisel plow and a disc harrow would do u well too imo. But, i have to say i am impressed with what the 2515 did. Im on the fence between tym 2515 0r the 3515 or the yanmar yt 35 (i may have the model numberswrong)
I thought you'd never use the position control. You are right a 12 or 14 2 bottom would be a better fit for the 2515h. Love your channel, keeping it real.
That red clay is tough stuff! As you work biomass in and start developing some topsoil (and get the roots out) it will become a piece of cake in a few years.
I wish more modern compact tractors had a bevel gear crank for the side to side 3 point leveling. I really like having that on my 1981 Ford 1700 compact tractor. With gear drive that tractor would do better with the plow, but as you say a single bottom is more the right size. That’s what I have on mine. Easy pull in the sandy loam at my place, until I encounter a rock.
They wouldn't make hydrostatic transmissions for tractors if they couldn't do their job. I have total confidence that they'll do anything the gear models can do.....and more. Good job plowing Tony!! Thank you for sharing, my friend! 😎👍
Interestingly enough, most of the hydrostatic tractors in the world are located in the US market, where they're mostly used to mow the lawn or play in the snow. I have yet to see anyone putting some actual real work for a decent amount of time on these hydrostatic tractors.
I put a load of dirt in the bucket which would be roughly the equivalent of loaded rear tires. This will be about the best results that can be expected from the 2515. It is a good tractor but it's punching out of its weight class with this plow. If I had a 12-in two bottom breaking plow plow, It would work great
what is the best corn for eatin? are there special strains of corn? i just retired and got a t494 and am planning on planting corn and reefer. and peppers of coarse. just trying to find them special corn seeds. i also need a tiller. i like the rhino ag stuff. do you know what brands are comparable to the rhino stuff. i need to get this right the first time. thanks for the great vidjas mr tony
I think you’ve got that tractor plowing about as good as you can get it, those wide rear tires aren’t helping you when they try to climb out of the furrow. You seem to be getting fairly clean furrow walls so your coulter discs are set reasonably well. One adjustment I didn’t see mentioned that will improve how the plow pulls drastically is the cross shaft adjustment. If that’s a 16” bottom, measure from the right inside tire to the point of the front bottom. You may need to set the plow to travel a little one way or the other. By twisting that shaft you can make the plow “steer” to have it follow straighter. A plow that not following square behind you will pull you around a lot, and I think I saw you fighting that in places. My competition plow has a lever I can adjust on the fly from the seat to make small adjustments to keep things looking good for the judges. That 25hp is plowing out of its class and doing well considering in that clay I’d expect to see that size bottom behind a 40-50hp tractor around here
This particular tractor has very little room for adjustment left to right. It's pretty much as good as it gets. That factor along with the large fat rear tires makes it hard to keep the rear tire in the furrow.
A mouldboard plow set up on a weighted tractor it's matched correctly with and run at the right speed will leave the surface of the ground level with none of those deep furrows like you have. Leveling out the ground you plowed is going to be a nightmare unless you have a big heavy disc plow or some sort of float to drag it level and pack it down a bit. This is not what a properly mouldboarded field is supposed to look like. At the end you were throwing dirt almost as it should be. Six inches is deep enough tillage for a garden. Now you need a crumbler to pull behind that plow.
@TonysTractorAdventure You came to the same conclusions toward the end of the video. That little tractor is more suited to lighter usage. I've never seen anyone try harder to make something work. I believe you could attain a similar goal with a small, heavily weighted chisel plow. The difference is it won't be turning the crop residue under. We hated the transition from mouldboard to chisel plowing, but in the end it was mostly about asthetics. We sure liked the fuel savings. Through the winter we ran 2 4-bottom mouldboards and 1 six-bottom. My father-in-law said old Oliver mouldboard bottoms were the easiest to pull, so we bought every old Oliver mouldboard plow we found at farm auctions for a decade. The main drawback we found with chiseling is that the sun's reflection off of heavy surface residue of corn stover will affect the spring ground warmup, causing slow or irregular emergence of some crops. In a garden that may not be a problem since the amount of residue won't be quite as heavy as in a corn field. It seems to me the small tractor manufacturers have made a mistake eliminating the draft control feature. It's handy. My little John Deere 5055E has it so I assumed they all did.
I bought a deere 3025d.. Meaning its gear drive.. actually if the 1025 or 2025 came with a gear option I probably would have bought 2 of each. But I bought gear for plowing purposes. I own a plow similar to what you are using and it has lifted the front end off the ground a few times. One thing I do plowing is fill the bucket full of dirt.. Makes a day and night difference pulling. Which allows me to put the plow as deep down as it will go.
Hello I'm Donnie and I love y'all show. I had a question about your sawmill and which would you pick. I have the opportunity to get either a 122 woodland mills 9 and half horse power or the 10 horse power os23? Thanks Donnie
Nice tractor but , to much plow for the little fella. Consider a single 18 or disk plow for the root problem. Just sayin. Think its a fine trackor. And a great vid.
Life is full of tradeoffs, I think you would do better with a shuttle shift when pulling a plow but there are some very nice implements that you really need hydrostat for, my favorite being a stump grinder. I guess a feller just needs two tractors, one shuttle shift and one hydrostat.
do you hit that with a tiller next? i have a t494 (same as t574 w no turba) do you recommend a plow like this? 49hp 6700lbs with loader and rim guard. ps my t494 is way quieter than the hst on that branson. some of them there ku-boaters are real whinny. i guess they addressed that whine issue. are the branson models louder than the tym models? i am impressed with the kukje mech. fuel injection. smooth and quiet. is that a A2300 variant on that 2515? the 474 494 and 574 sound the best. the tyms with the yanmar engines are fine engines but they are loud and have tons of computers and sensors.
i think to pull it right you need a 50 hp with draft control you can turn it deep as needed. we had a 2 bottom 14 inch we used with a 65 massey they were 51 hp it did well and a 3 bottom 16 inch we pulled with a 2555 john deere 4 wheei drive it dyno at 70 hp it did well but a 85 hp would have been better. you have clay soil like us and it takes more power to turn that. the guy with the 8n must have been turning sand i have used one of them they do good to pull a 14 inch single bottom. both out tractor have draft control that makes a world of diff. happy 4th. take care, be safe and well.
It just needed some proper R1 tires or better yet, R1 Radials like we run in Europe and a proper transmission and it would've pulled that plow perfectly fine.
They are apples and oranges meant to do different things. I still prefer The T25 but it does not have the lifting capacity and overall weight of the 2515.
Looks like you are running R4 industrial tires on both of your tractors. R1 ag treads will give you more traction for this kind of work. Curious why you chose the R4 tires?
It would gain you about 2hp. That can be the difference on many jobs, but shuttle shift is a pain if you are planning to do a lot of loader work. If you want hydrostat, but need more power the 3515 is the exact same tractor with 10 more HP.
@@TonysTractorAdventure I will agree if your doing a lot of loader work hydrostatic is the way to go but I plan on using it to do a lot of fieldwork by cutting hay baling hay raking hay
Soil conditions play a huge role. My local Massey dealer will not support my idea on getting my Massey 1835M (hydro) a 2 bottom plow. Plus they are currently rebuilding a hydro transmission as well. Im still willing to get a 14 inch plow and give it whirl.
I agree with you about the soil conditions. However, There is plenty of statical data showing Hydrostatic Tractors are as reliable as manual. You can go to any tractor shop and find a manual transmission being worked on. They are almost all being worked on due to neglect.
My tractor is in the shop right now. Lost the pump for the AC. Sitting on the table next to mine was a hydrostatic pump out of a Massey Ferguson 1500 series. Holy cow are those things small. I've never seen one up front and close. Mechanic explained how they work, etc. Pretty cool stuff. For an added note, I use my 1835M to bale hay. I have an Ibex TX31 round baler. Hydrostatic + baling = win win for me. Manuals can't compete at all.
You're right about the whining.. Those big John Deere combines make a whine sound. Nothing wrong, just the way they are. Have you had experience with the cab tractors, what's the noise level like? Can you talk on phone while in a TYM, cabbed, compact tractor?
@@TonysTractorAdventure Good to know. I'm lconsidering ordering a new TYM cab 3515, and trying to determine what noise level is inside cab. I have a New Holland, 2021 model year, C337 track loader and it's too loud to listen to radio or use phone. I asked a guy who runs a TYM 394 on another channel and his response was: "The cab is pretty loud honestly and I can’t talk on the phone while working the tractor. At an idle is tolerable but I just usually shut the tractor down to talk on the phone." I'm in Western Nebraska and they're just not any TYM dealers nearby, so difficult to try first hand.
You would see a big difference by having the ag tires instead of the industrial tires. Watching the video there are many times that the tires are just on the surface instead of digging in. Grew up farming and the rule of thumb for a bottom plow was 10 HP per blade so 25 HP when set up for agricultural use instead of general use should make that tractor work well. Having the 2515R would also help because it lets you control the speed more and it is still a hydro transmission just gives the operator more control .
The loss of power from a hydro drive is fairly uniform regardless of hp. In lower hp tractors such as this it becomes very much more noteworthy. Many novice and homeowner prefer the hydro; but, as one can see it comes with a price. If this was gear drive and with weighted tires I venture to say plowing with it would be a much more pleasing experience. Given the power loss with any hydro powered 25 hp tractor I don't think one would want to even use a set of 12 inch two bottom plows. Plowing for say four hours on this unit would be a very frustrating and tiring job. I have a 1401d Yanmar little less than 14 hp that will drive my five foot Muritori tiller for hours on end. It is gear drive and works like crazy. Nice tractor you have; but, as with all the hydro is a trade off.
Not sure of horsepower but it looks like you have enough tractor. I pulled a 2-16 with my NHolland but I had 2 weights on each wheel(400lbs.) And 4 weights in front(65x4=260). The 9N was only 22hp but it often had fluid(which I would NEVER recommend). Keep it scoured and set straight.
I was looking seriously at this model but all my friends and family are stringent advisors on me not huying a tractor less than 50 hp. So I'm back to being confused about my purchase. I will never need enough pto to bale hay. I have 38 acres but 10 acres is lake water and two acre are house and yard, so i basically have 26 acres to maintain. I want an offset flail mower to mow around the lake and pasture. I need enough hp to clean the muck out of my lake and I need good fel capacity to occasionally push 100 year old oak trees off my perimeter fence that surround my property on three sides. The rest of my work would be moving a round bale once a week, post hole auger, landscape rake, storm cleanup, cleaning out barn stalls, maintenance of gravel driveway. Some good advice would be appreciated. I'm leaning towards the TYM 3620 h because of its weight and ten more hp than the 2515.
I know this post is an older one. I will share my 2 cents on this matter. We have around 200 acres and cut about half in hay. We have 4 tractors ranging from 200 hp to 33 hp. All of our larger tractors have cabs with AC. The tractor I use the most unless we are working hay is the 33 hp Kubota. I have been having the same conversation with my niece who wants a larger frame tractor but does not need it. I cant speak about a flail mower as I have never pulled one but we pull a 5 foot bush hog (a clipper in the south is a bush hog) with the 33 hp and a 50 hp you will be maxed out with 6 foot. A smaller tractor will do every thing the larger tractors do it will just take a little longer. I am never in a hurry when I am on a tractor because I enjoy being on the tractor. I would never get one of the larger tractors to move trees with the loader due to the cab reducing my visibility. Their is also one more thing to factor in and that is fuel consumption. The larger the tractor the more fuel it will burn in a days time. Hope this helps. If I am in need of another tractor in the future I am going to look into TYM. We have 3 Deere tractors and one Kubota at the moment.
I know I haven't got a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of but me personally would go to a single blade or just double till it " if that's possible" because buying a larger tractor at their prices wouldn't be worth it ( for me I mean).
Just an observation when looking at this tractor. Your tractor has no Branson on it. When you browse new models at the TYM dealers they are badged as Branson .
It’s not a hydrostat issue That tractor is overloaded with that plow in that land. Softer land or a one bottom plow or more hp you gota make a change or your gonna tear something up. I like that flail
Add water with coolant or antifreeze (beet juice also) into them up to the top of the rim centre will give an immense increase in stability and traction.
Never add automotive antifreeze. If you spring a leak, your animals will get into it. A lot of dogs, cats, and livestock were killed by that very thing. Beet juice is good. The easiest thing is to call your local CO-OP. They usually have a truck to come fill your tires.
Same comments we got about plowing with hydrostat. Good work Tony. Tractor Hard! 🚜💪!
We recently bought 7.37 raw acres. I have been looking hard at this tractor. I almost bought a JD 2032R. Glad the deal fell through. My wife is tired of me whining about being on the fence. She told me to pull the trigger on the TYM. Thank you, Tony for these 'test' videos. Looks like I'm gonna be getting a 2515H w/backhoe. Just need to find the right grapple for it.
Right on!it is a fine tractor.
How much for double plow?
I recommended the 2515 today to a guy I work with. I've been impressed by this tractor since the first demo I watched on it.
It was definitely undersized for what you were doing with it but it kept going. Impressive. I bought the 494 HST and I love it. It does a great job every time. Thanks Tony. Gizmo is fun to watch too.
Thank you for your videos and putting yourself out there trying things so we can learn from it too.
I appreciate that!
I seen right off where you went wrong, you wasn't holding your tongue just right out of the corner of your mouth! An old trick my grandpa taught me! Works for catching fish too when they don't want to bite! Good video bruh
Love it. Thank you.
Great video Tony!!! I love seeing things not go so easy and ideally. I am a new tractor owner. My very first tractor 2022 TYM T474 HST 49Hp. I love it! I appreciate the time you take to make these videos. I have learned a lot, A LOT! Thank you and great content.
Thank you for your comment. It made my day
Good Video Tony. Thank you for all the tractor videos you do. They are very helpful.
Glad you like them! Thank you for the watch.
Thanks Tony, I went out and finally got the 2515H with all the trimmings. Videos are a success and helps Me learn more about the equipment.
Great to hear! I hope to do more soon. Gardening time! WOOP WOOP!
Tony, once you got some shine on those plows it seemed to pull easier. I think with some loaded Ag tires it would slice that clay like butter.
Enjoy your videos.
Tim
I think with a shuttle shift and AG tires it might have done a little bit better.
Without major changes to the tractor it works great great video thanks Tony and Tanya and gizmo
It was definitely doing better dialed in, but I still think the plow is too big..
Gizmo is here waiting for his morning's breakfast.
I feel for you, some people complain just so they can, you are trying to show and help people, take care
Very nice Tony. Thank you for the education
Any time! I learned a lot too.
Tony is making the field slick with some cream 🌽 corn
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That didn't help my cause, but it was a real test.
Id like to see the 474 set up with the same plow for a sise by side comparison. With weighted tires. Great video.👍
I did a plow video on the T474 using that exact plow. It did great.
Plow needs to be parallel with the ground left to right when your tires are down in the furrow. So tractor leaned over in the furrow but plow needs to be flat
I thought I demonstrated that very well. This is real work testing.
@@TonysTractorAdventure shots from behind you plowing towards the end of the vid showed you still needed some more adjustment to level the plow out but the main issue was you just needed more tractor
I also noticed the inside was digging really deep at that angle
Ploughing is a competitive pursuit for some Tony, like getting your tramlines straight! Lots of pedants take it very seriously, but to be fair it is a skill.
I understand. I am ok with people poking fun, but a few were just down right mean. It was new people that I have never seen respond before. We call them keyboard warriors. I delete that stuff and move on. I appreciate you supporting us.
I’m a competitive plowman…..but part of it is constructively helping others without being critical. The hardest place to see what the plow is doing is from the tractor seat
I have the 2515R and love it!
I bet it's a solid tractor
That Branson TYM 2515 is a beast! Didn’t think it could do it even at 6” of depth. Impressive, I think knowing your hydraulic oil max operating temp for the demonstration and checking temp would have been interesting. It was working pretty hard. Some weight in the bucket and 4wd low diff loc engaged would help the tractor pull the plow.
This was nothing for this transmission. They use the same transmission with a 40hp engine. It was in low and the diff lock was always used. Later in the video I added a bucket of dirt. I think it is punching outside of it weight class with this plow under these soil types.
Cool video Tony. That is a monster of a plow for a 25 hp tractor. But it did ok.
I bought my 2515H after watching this channel and seeing the performance. We got it with a grapple, box blade, tip/tit, front/rear hydraulics..the works. Thanks Tony for your hard work putting these reviews and instructional videos. I love my hydrostatic and haven't had it bog down once. Tractor is a beast!
Watching you tinker with the settings reminds me why my grandfather had three tractors. He would set a fiddly implement like a sickle bar to work best and then never remove it. You could afford to do that with dime a dozen 8Ns and MF TO-30s.
Times have changed.
Cub Cadet made great hydro lawn/garden tractors starting in the 60's. I've got a 1973 Cub 149 that's still working great.
Yes they did. Mid 80 had some crappers
Wasn't trying to be negative just pointing out the fact of old tech vs modern nothing meant by it your one of my favorite channels😎
I apologize if I overreacted to your individual comment. I had several people cursing me which I had to delete. It may have set my mood before I read your comment. Again, I apologize. It is not the first time I popped off in my life, but I am working on it. 😁
All saying it's a brute of a machine 😮 aggressive for 16s n 12 ought to be perfect 🥰 ty 🏆 😊 🙏 ❤️
You got that right!
i bolted a cutting edge on my t494 big improvement!
I have been plowing for years with a hydro. After the first year I switched to AG tires and never looked back. Good times had by all.
My hydrostat had absolutely no problems pulling anything I asked of it, the only time my temperature got even a little warm was when I was brush-hogging with it and the filters were doing their job.
You did about as good as possible with that little tractor. I'm amazed it accomplished what it did. I know the hydrostat will do it but a gear tractor is much better at putting the HP to the ground. I've got both a hydrstatic and a gear tractor - mowing the hydrostat is king - ground engaging implement give me the gear tractor. Great video!
Why do you think all of the larger construction equipment manufactures go with Hydrostatic over gear?
@@TonysTractorAdventure Yes, construction equipment has many "degree' s " of Hydrostatic Transmissions. But this "small tractor design" is VERY SIMPLISTIC. IT does NOT use "Compounding Planetary Feed-back Modulating Gear-sets";= Very Complex. This small tractor ( under 75HP) only uses a SINGLE VARIABLE Swash-plate with multiple gear ranges ; Thus the "Tremendous Howling& Straining ". The ( simple Swash-plate designs) are VERY handy for just "light-duty" pulling,lugging& pushing. FYI; Excavator' s use hydraulic gear-motors ( with planetary's)on the drive tracks& house-swing assembly's. That hydrostatic drive tractor did SO MUCH BETTER with the Flail-mower, ( kind of what it was made for). Your 474 ,being much Bigger; handled the "plowing chore" much better; even though it is Hydrostatic Drive. This was a VERY good demonstration of what a small 3000lb ( base-weight) hydrostatic 25hp could do. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
Well Tony you never know what will work till you try . As far as your corn it looks pretty good for first time in Virgin soil but after you till it in the soil and mulch it come spring you'll have an amazing crop. Thanks buddy!
Very true. Next year will be better. We are going to amend the soil over the winter with chick poop, straw, and sawdust. It will take a few years to get it right. Until then, we will add more 12-12-12.
I was always told it's best to plant watermelons on fresh ground. I know my best watermelons have all come out of first year ground. then plant anything the next year.
Tony make sure the straw has no seed in it I made that mistake last year cause this past spring I had wheat growing
Thanks for maxing out this tractor. I would like to see how the 2515 shuttle would pull this plow.
The shuttle shift may do a little better.
@TonysTractorAdventure epically with the 2515r coming with Ag tires. Would drop in the furrows better as well. I prefer ag tires but the tires on my 2515h don't tear up my lawn like the ag tires on my 8n.
A 2515 Shuttle and R1 tires would pull that plow just fine. I pulled my homemade 2 shank ripper 16" deep on hard clay with my Branson F36Rn (equivalent to the 3515R) and it did just fine. No way the HST would pull that at full depth, may not even half depth, specially for any sort of long time work.
@@tacticalks4106 What most people don't understand is that the PTO HP listed on the spec sheet is for a stationary application, like using a PTO dyno. Once the tractor starts moving like tilling ground, the HST just falls on its face.
Have a great 4 th buddy
Top link needs to go in bottom setting on tractor as that is a ground engaging attachment.
Awesome stuff again. Don't think the fresh cut corn in doing any favors for u losing some grip but seem to work better after leveling it ou
This youtube farmer has never heard of roasting ears. 😂
Why would you say that,
Another term for sweet corn .
Awesome tractor
It sure is! I think this will be one of the top homestead tractors.
Meanwhile, I'm pulling my homemade 2 shank ripper 16" deep on hard clay with my Branson F36Rn ( equivalent to the 3515R in the US) just fine with R1 tires and 12x12 shuttle. I have no doubts the 2515 would pull that plow perfectly with R1 tires and Shuttle transmission.
You could be right.
I know this is an older video. But give you my experience . I have a Kubota L2501. I have an older 2 bottom plow think its a 12". It pulls fine. Not perfect but gets it done. Soil has tons to do with how the tractor will perform. I have sandy soil here in North Florida and its much easier than lets say the red clay in GA, AL or your soil in Tennessee . Enjoyed the vid.
You are 100% correct on soil type. That makes a big difference.
Another FINE "Vidio" on how to "Torture a Hydrostatic-Slip-a-matic ". That IS A LOT of "plow " fer that size of Tractor; if it was a "gear-drive" it could of just "made it" WORK. This was a "Excelent Try " , but just was "SKIMMING the surface ' for the Plowing Adventure with this 25 horse-power "Big hydro-static Twack-tor ". Thank you Sir;& Tawnya for the Excelent vidio. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
You know, less than one percent of TYM tractor's Hydrostatic transmissions have ever failed in the first 10 years. Ever! When wear items fail, thousands of hours in, they are easily repairable. I don't understand why people feel like hydrostatic transmissions are inferior. Almost every piece of construction equipment is hydrostatic. There are virtually no downsides other than a little HP loss compared to gear. They are 100 percent better for loader work. I am not beating you up personally, but there are a bunch of false ideas rolling around about Hydrostatic transmission.
As a retired certified Cat&Cummins knuckle buster and farmer I don't disagree that the little hydrostatic tractor is trying to do the job. But you are asking it to do to much!!! Rule of thumb on 14&16
in. plows is 20hp per bottom. On the farm I had a two,three,four bottom plows plus a 7 or 8ft. chisel plow and always tried to use a tractor match!
Also watched a video that a Kubota dealer aired about hydrostatic vs gear. Clearly stated hydrostat cannot do the same work pulling as a gear.
My suggestion is unbolt one bottom and I believe you will be AMAZED a the difference!!!
This was only a test. The big plow is for my bigger tractor. I don't think it would be prudent to take my plow apart for another test. I do however have some new footage coming with a different plow.
I have a Massey Ferguson 16 inch double. BOttom from 1966 pull it with my 26 horse power. Kubota. No problem. My tires are loaded. Hydrostatic
You make you happy it's your tractor you make the payment not them lots of people get mad because they don't money to buy one so keep doing a good job you know what you do thanks for the video
Super filmik 🎉
Thank you
I think you are right you need exactly the size the old 8ns would have used, or get a single bottom. A chisel plow and a disc harrow would do u well too imo. But, i have to say i am impressed with what the 2515 did. Im on the fence between tym 2515 0r the 3515 or the yanmar yt 35 (i may have the model numberswrong)
The 2515 would probably pull better with good Ag tires but then it would tear up your property when you're doing other chores.
R14/Versaturfs are a great compromise between the two. More traction than R4s and less destruction than R1 (Ag) tires.
@@Noah_E I wanted those but my dealer didn't offer them on my T25. RK gives you that option so I don't know why my dealer couldn't do it.
It did the job👍
Yes it did.
I thought you'd never use the position control. You are right a 12 or 14 2 bottom would be a better fit for the 2515h. Love your channel, keeping it real.
Thank you.
Position control works great with plows.
My experience with farming is knowing when to push away from dinner table ❤
Quitter.
the hydraulic top link was cheap for my t494 and you could swap it in 2 min from one of your tym to another if same size works
I have two hydraulic tip links for my other tractor. The 2515 is a demo tractor. I am showing it as it is sold.
We always plow deeper, but to each his own.
Everyone's soil is different
That red clay is tough stuff! As you work biomass in and start developing some topsoil (and get the roots out) it will become a piece of cake in a few years.
Yes, Sir! We are going to amend the soil a lot over the next year. I added about 200 pounds of sawdust this. It will help hold water next year.
Would the clay improve if you tilled some gypsum into it Tony? You are doing a good job displaying the abilities of the TYM.😁
This is going to be our permanent garden spot. We will amend the soil a good bit over time. This was the first year of this location.
I wish more modern compact tractors had a bevel gear crank for the side to side 3 point leveling. I really like having that on my 1981 Ford 1700 compact tractor. With gear drive that tractor would do better with the plow, but as you say a single bottom is more the right size. That’s what I have on mine. Easy pull in the sandy loam at my place, until I encounter a rock.
I don't know why they have never caught on. It is a very good way to level the implement.
They wouldn't make hydrostatic transmissions for tractors if they couldn't do their job. I have total confidence that they'll do anything the gear models can do.....and more. Good job plowing Tony!! Thank you for sharing, my friend! 😎👍
Interestingly enough, most of the hydrostatic tractors in the world are located in the US market, where they're mostly used to mow the lawn or play in the snow. I have yet to see anyone putting some actual real work for a decent amount of time on these hydrostatic tractors.
Would really like to see you use a two bottom 12” plow. Loaded tires. This is a good tractor
I put a load of dirt in the bucket which would be roughly the equivalent of loaded rear tires. This will be about the best results that can be expected from the 2515. It is a good tractor but it's punching out of its weight class with this plow. If I had a 12-in two bottom breaking plow plow, It would work great
do the branson/tym machines have hard lines all the way to the loader like the TYMs? rather than hose?
Yes. They have hard lines.
I too have my dogs as helpers
Your logo should be a crescent wrench.
Yep! I helped win wars with a crescent wrench.
what is the best corn for eatin? are there special strains of corn? i just retired and got a t494 and am planning on planting corn and reefer. and peppers of coarse. just trying to find them special corn seeds. i also need a tiller. i like the rhino ag stuff. do you know what brands are comparable to the rhino stuff. i need to get this right the first time. thanks for the great vidjas mr tony
I think you’ve got that tractor plowing about as good as you can get it, those wide rear tires aren’t helping you when they try to climb out of the furrow. You seem to be getting fairly clean furrow walls so your coulter discs are set reasonably well. One adjustment I didn’t see mentioned that will improve how the plow pulls drastically is the cross shaft adjustment. If that’s a 16” bottom, measure from the right inside tire to the point of the front bottom. You may need to set the plow to travel a little one way or the other. By twisting that shaft you can make the plow “steer” to have it follow straighter. A plow that not following square behind you will pull you around a lot, and I think I saw you fighting that in places. My competition plow has a lever I can adjust on the fly from the seat to make small adjustments to keep things looking good for the judges. That 25hp is plowing out of its class and doing well considering in that clay I’d expect to see that size bottom behind a 40-50hp tractor around here
This particular tractor has very little room for adjustment left to right. It's pretty much as good as it gets. That factor along with the large fat rear tires makes it hard to keep the rear tire in the furrow.
A mouldboard plow set up on a weighted tractor it's matched correctly with and run at the right speed will leave the surface of the ground level with none of those deep furrows like you have.
Leveling out the ground you plowed is going to be a nightmare unless you have a big heavy disc plow or some sort of float to drag it level and pack it down a bit. This is not what a properly mouldboarded field is supposed to look like.
At the end you were throwing dirt almost as it should be. Six inches is deep enough tillage for a garden. Now you need a crumbler to pull behind that plow.
Thank you for your input.
@TonysTractorAdventure You came to the same conclusions toward the end of the video. That little tractor is more suited to lighter usage. I've never seen anyone try harder to make something work.
I believe you could attain a similar goal with a small, heavily weighted chisel plow. The difference is it won't be turning the crop residue under.
We hated the transition from mouldboard to chisel plowing, but in the end it was mostly about asthetics. We sure liked the fuel savings. Through the winter we ran 2 4-bottom mouldboards and 1 six-bottom. My father-in-law said old Oliver mouldboard bottoms were the easiest to pull, so we bought every old Oliver mouldboard plow we found at farm auctions for a decade.
The main drawback we found with chiseling is that the sun's reflection off of heavy surface residue of corn stover will affect the spring ground warmup, causing slow or irregular emergence of some crops. In a garden that may not be a problem since the amount of residue won't be quite as heavy as in a corn field.
It seems to me the small tractor manufacturers have made a mistake eliminating the draft control feature. It's handy. My little John Deere 5055E has it so I assumed they all did.
More power
I bought a deere 3025d.. Meaning its gear drive.. actually if the 1025 or 2025 came with a gear option I probably would have bought 2 of each. But I bought gear for plowing purposes. I own a plow similar to what you are using and it has lifted the front end off the ground a few times. One thing I do plowing is fill the bucket full of dirt.. Makes a day and night difference pulling. Which allows me to put the plow as deep down as it will go.
I think I filled the dirt later in the video. It has been a while since I made this video.
Hello I'm Donnie and I love y'all show. I had a question about your sawmill and which would you pick. I have the opportunity to get either a 122 woodland mills 9 and half horse power or the 10 horse power os23? Thanks Donnie
I have never used the Woodland Mills sawmill; however, I think the 10 horsepower OS 23 is a very sweet rig.
Nice tractor but , to much plow for the little fella. Consider a single 18 or disk plow for the root problem. Just sayin. Think its a fine trackor. And a great vid.
Check out one of our latter videos. We put a double bottom plow on with 12" plows.
It would have been really cool for you to do a couple of runs with the bigger tractor as a comparison.
I did another whole video on the T474. It was not even close. It never slowed down and I could go to fast with the T474.
that is one solid dog you have. how much does he weigh? how old. is it a mix. cool dog mr tony
He is 80 pounds. Husky Boarder Collie mix. He is my buddy.
Life is full of tradeoffs, I think you would do better with a shuttle shift when pulling a plow but there are some very nice implements that you really need hydrostat for, my favorite being a stump grinder. I guess a feller just needs two tractors, one shuttle shift and one hydrostat.
Yes, sir. I think a smaller old is the ticket.
would you have had better luck with r1 or r14 tires?
I appreciate your opinion but most of the time I ran out of horsepower before I ran out of traction.
Seems to do pretty well on virgin ground for 25hp.
I agree.
It done a good job considering the horse power. It got the job done mite be a tad slower but you not at the races
Agreed. I would be happy if it was my only tractor.
Also type of soil you have will affect how well you plow.
Red iron rich clay.
do you hit that with a tiller next? i have a t494 (same as t574 w no turba) do you recommend a plow like this? 49hp 6700lbs with loader and rim guard. ps my t494 is way quieter than the hst on that branson. some of them there ku-boaters are real whinny. i guess they addressed that whine issue. are the branson models louder than the tym models? i am impressed with the kukje mech. fuel injection. smooth and quiet. is that a A2300 variant on that 2515? the 474 494 and 574 sound the best. the tyms with the yanmar engines are fine engines but they are loud and have tons of computers and sensors.
Your tractor will pull the plow like this very well. It has draft control which is an added feature that is made specifically for plowing.
Put a depth wheel on the plough would help a lot
It seems like you have more traction problems than power problems. How about weighting the tires and see how it does.
i think to pull it right you need a 50 hp with draft control you can turn it deep as needed. we had a 2 bottom 14 inch we used with a 65 massey they were 51 hp it did well and a 3 bottom 16 inch we pulled with a 2555 john deere 4 wheei drive it dyno at 70 hp it did well but a 85 hp would have been better. you have clay soil like us and it takes more power to turn that. the guy with the 8n must have been turning sand i have used one of them they do good to pull a 14 inch single bottom. both out tractor have draft control that makes a world of diff. happy 4th. take care, be safe and well.
It just needed some proper R1 tires or better yet, R1 Radials like we run in Europe and a proper transmission and it would've pulled that plow perfectly fine.
Tony, which one would you prefer between the T25 and the 2115? I will be ordering the tractor probably next week. Thanks
They are apples and oranges meant to do different things. I still prefer The T25 but it does not have the lifting capacity and overall weight of the 2515.
Was wondering if having the coulters not set so deep would help?
The coulters have to be to same level as the plow bottom; otherwise, the plow will have to tear out the soil at the tip. That has been my experience.
Looks like you are running R4 industrial tires on both of your tractors. R1 ag treads will give you more traction for this kind of work. Curious why you chose the R4 tires?
We don't just do this. We switch between hardball, gravel, dirt and yards. R-4s are a good compromise.
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I'm looking at a 2515r I think the transmission would fit me better as a little bit better pulling power
It would gain you about 2hp. That can be the difference on many jobs, but shuttle shift is a pain if you are planning to do a lot of loader work. If you want hydrostat, but need more power the 3515 is the exact same tractor with 10 more HP.
@@TonysTractorAdventure I will agree if your doing a lot of loader work hydrostatic is the way to go but I plan on using it to do a lot of fieldwork by cutting hay baling hay raking hay
Soil conditions play a huge role. My local Massey dealer will not support my idea on getting my Massey 1835M (hydro) a 2 bottom plow. Plus they are currently rebuilding a hydro transmission as well. Im still willing to get a 14 inch plow and give it whirl.
Correction, my soil here in northern Idaho consists of flood deposits from Glacial Lake Missoula. Once you break it apart, it's easy to work with.
I agree with you about the soil conditions. However, There is plenty of statical data showing Hydrostatic Tractors are as reliable as manual. You can go to any tractor shop and find a manual transmission being worked on. They are almost all being worked on due to neglect.
My tractor is in the shop right now. Lost the pump for the AC. Sitting on the table next to mine was a hydrostatic pump out of a Massey Ferguson 1500 series. Holy cow are those things small. I've never seen one up front and close. Mechanic explained how they work, etc. Pretty cool stuff. For an added note, I use my 1835M to bale hay. I have an Ibex TX31 round baler. Hydrostatic + baling = win win for me. Manuals can't compete at all.
Bar tires would help also.
R1 tires are always the best for AG use. However, we go between blacktop, gravel, and dirt. I find the R1s to be a good compromise.
You're right about the whining.. Those big John Deere combines make a whine sound. Nothing wrong, just the way they are. Have you had experience with the cab tractors, what's the noise level like? Can you talk on phone while in a TYM, cabbed, compact tractor?
I talk to my buddy in his TYM cab while on the phone. It is OK, but I can hear the tractor.
@@TonysTractorAdventure Good to know. I'm lconsidering ordering a new TYM cab 3515, and trying to determine what noise level is inside cab. I have a New Holland, 2021 model year, C337 track loader and it's too loud to listen to radio or use phone. I asked a guy who runs a TYM 394 on another channel and his response was: "The cab is pretty loud honestly and I can’t talk on the phone while working the tractor. At an idle is tolerable but I just usually shut the tractor down to talk on the phone." I'm in Western Nebraska and they're just not any TYM dealers nearby, so difficult to try first hand.
You would see a big difference by having the ag tires instead of the industrial tires. Watching the video there are many times that the tires are just on the surface instead of digging in. Grew up farming and the rule of thumb for a bottom plow was 10 HP per blade so 25 HP when set up for agricultural use instead of general use should make that tractor work well. Having the 2515R would also help because it lets you control the speed more and it is still a hydro transmission just gives the operator more control .
The loss of power from a hydro drive is fairly uniform regardless of hp. In lower hp tractors such as this it becomes very much more noteworthy. Many novice and homeowner prefer the hydro; but, as one can see it comes with a price. If this was gear drive and with weighted tires I venture to say plowing with it would be a much more pleasing experience. Given the power loss with any hydro powered 25 hp tractor I don't think one would want to even use a set of 12 inch two bottom plows. Plowing for say four hours on this unit would be a very frustrating and tiring job. I have a 1401d Yanmar little less than 14 hp that will drive my five foot Muritori tiller for hours on end. It is gear drive and works like crazy. Nice tractor you have; but, as with all the hydro is a trade off.
I thank you for your opinion.
i have a 2022 TYM T494 would you say 2 bottom ???
I pulled that exact plow with a T494. Buried it. Ripping out chunks!
Not sure of horsepower but it looks like you have enough tractor. I pulled a 2-16 with my NHolland but I had 2 weights on each wheel(400lbs.) And 4 weights in front(65x4=260). The 9N was only 22hp but it often had fluid(which I would NEVER recommend). Keep it scoured and set straight.
I was looking seriously at this model but all my friends and family are stringent advisors on me not huying a tractor less than 50 hp. So I'm back to being confused about my purchase. I will never need enough pto to bale hay. I have 38 acres but 10 acres is lake water and two acre are house and yard, so i basically have 26 acres to maintain. I want an offset flail mower to mow around the lake and pasture. I need enough hp to clean the muck out of my lake and I need good fel capacity to occasionally push 100 year old oak trees off my perimeter fence that surround my property on three sides. The rest of my work would be moving a round bale once a week, post hole auger, landscape rake, storm cleanup, cleaning out barn stalls, maintenance of gravel driveway. Some good advice would be appreciated. I'm leaning towards the TYM 3620 h because of its weight and ten more hp than the 2515.
I know this post is an older one. I will share my 2 cents on this matter. We have around 200 acres and cut about half in hay. We have 4 tractors ranging from 200 hp to 33 hp. All of our larger tractors have cabs with AC. The tractor I use the most unless we are working hay is the 33 hp Kubota. I have been having the same conversation with my niece who wants a larger frame tractor but does not need it. I cant speak about a flail mower as I have never pulled one but we pull a 5 foot bush hog (a clipper in the south is a bush hog) with the 33 hp and a 50 hp you will be maxed out with 6 foot. A smaller tractor will do every thing the larger tractors do it will just take a little longer. I am never in a hurry when I am on a tractor because I enjoy being on the tractor. I would never get one of the larger tractors to move trees with the loader due to the cab reducing my visibility. Their is also one more thing to factor in and that is fuel consumption. The larger the tractor the more fuel it will burn in a days time. Hope this helps. If I am in need of another tractor in the future I am going to look into TYM. We have 3 Deere tractors and one Kubota at the moment.
Get you an old Dearborn 2 12's and I believe you will see a lot of difference. 2 16'e are simply too much for this little tractor.
Does the 494 have drift range I love your videos I’m getting ready to purchase the 494
I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean draft control? If so, the T494 does have draft control. The T494 is a very nice tractor.
@@TonysTractorAdventure I can’t make my mind up between the T494 or the T 57 4 which do you like better
Do you think there’s an advantage to the turbo in the 574
I know I haven't got a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of but me personally would go to a single blade or just double till it " if that's possible" because buying a larger tractor at their prices wouldn't be worth it ( for me I mean).
If a person had this tractor, a 2 bottom 12" plow would be spot on. This size tractor has many advantages.
I noticed that you got stock in same place. As you went parallel to other row. To me it looked like you have low spots.
where did you get that rear remote kit?
From TYM. There is a video on the installation.
thanks, is there a part number i need to reference when ordering the rear remote? again, thank you sir.
Your tractor dealership will have it. I don't know the part number. Just tell him what you want.
@@TonysTractorAdventure ok. thanks again sir. love your tractor, i have the originator. Branson 2515R, great channel too by the way.
Just an observation when looking at this tractor. Your tractor has no Branson on it. When you browse new models at the TYM dealers they are badged as Branson .
Old stock new stock. Mine came from new stock. Everything coming out of the factory now looks like mine.
Im gonna guess and say that the new Bad Boy tractors are the same as these just painted orange? Anyone know this? They look identical
TYM makes Bad Boy Tractors
It dose not adjust right if you can not keep the rear wheel in the hole.
It is a trade off with R4 Tires
It’s not a hydrostat issue That tractor is overloaded with that plow in that land. Softer land or a one bottom plow or more hp you gota make a change or your gonna tear something up. I like that flail
I believe you just agreed with everything I said in the video. 😁
Where can i get a 2 bottom plow
Iron craft. I put a link in the description.
How do you load tires? I’m a beginner! Team Gizmo…..!
Add water with coolant or antifreeze (beet juice also) into them up to the top of the rim centre will give an immense increase in stability and traction.
Never add automotive antifreeze. If you spring a leak, your animals will get into it. A lot of dogs, cats, and livestock were killed by that very thing. Beet juice is good. The easiest thing is to call your local CO-OP. They usually have a truck to come fill your tires.
@@whatscoldoing5627 beet juice…..that’s a lot of beet juice….lol
You ever chew you some Red Man when you're on the tractor?
I don't chew tobacco