WILL STELLANTIS SELL DODGE? IF SO TO WHO?
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- In this video I share my thoughts on who would buy Dodge Chrysler Jeep Ram if Stellantis and CEO Carlos Tavares continue to ruin it and decide to sell it and who the likely buyer would be.
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Nike is going to be pissed if they have to compete with dodge for child labour
Low key great comment.
The child labor is really with the EVs.
I’m so sick of how Chrysler Dodge and Jeep are always getting screwed. It’s an American company that NEEDS to stay American
It's been bailed out by European companys twice..?
Was.
@@allamar9083 Thank you..
I never really liked Chrysler being merged with Mercedes(Daimler-Benz), and I wasn't happy when DB dumped them suddenly at all abruptly...HOWEVER...at least with that relationship, we got the Charger, Challenger, Magnum, and the Mercedes Sprinter to replace a much-outdated Dodge van...but with the Fiat/Stellantis setup, Chrysler hasn't gotten really anything positive at all from it...sabotaged by them, if you ask me..killing everything off and making stupid marketing/business decisions...an hideous-looking Fiat full size front wheel drive van, this hideous styled Hornet, and a bunch of Fiat cars nobody wanted to buy....
I almost forgot those awful-looking jeep "Cherokees" with the lit-up eyebrows that were really front wheel drive fiat cars....
The Chinese will make everything an ev. No thanks.
I would worry more about their government-mandated surveillance software in the infotainment system.
I have a Chinese EV and a Chinese PHEV - price for performance they cannot be touched.
@@ericrichardson4403wild and they have not combusted on you
@@ericrichardson4403 until it your EV because a combustion fireball
@@theunknownone5990 another person falling for amerivan propogando and thinking china is spying on all western and america is so inocent it never spy on its own people
We purchased 2008 PT Cruiser turbo,years ago. Great vehicle,we Love it. Local Chrysler dealer last year diagnosed computer shot 1745 $ plus installation ,and must do $$$ up to date re-program. Car value @ appx 3 thousand to anyone but us. We laughed at them. Drove it home . Searched web,Bought re -man on web 350$ lifetime warranty,updates included,I installed in 20 minutes EZ . Car runs beautiful . Ask me to purchase a Stell/Chrysler product. That will be a cold day. Dealers are a joke.
I think they want out of the American market.
They definitely neglected it. They expected people to buy anything with a Dodge label, and didn't think anyone would read the fine print on their obvious rush-job of a design.
Moved to audi personally but i am also shopping in the imo golden era of cars which is 2015
I've driven Mopars all my life, and I'm now 84 years old. My daily is a 2008 Chrysler Pacifica, and it's beautiful as well as trouble free. I haven't wanted anything past the Daimler Chrysler era, which contrary to other opinions, I thought was not bad at all. Sad to say, I am done! I feel a little betrayed...
Yeah i own a chrysler wrangler 2012. And i agree. I don’t think i would trade it in for a stellantis model. I would go all the way up to whatever year it was that chrysler owned jeep. Nothing newer than that.
Sell it, bring back the infamous Dodge SRT team and revive an even BETTER Hemi! (You’ll see them climb the charts out of the basement)
We might see that lighter platform Tim was referring to when he said they had to cancel the hemi
@lafosh7234 the platform Alfa Romeo Giulia is on?
They should bring back an upgraded SRT6 for the Dart, Avenger, Caliber, etc.
@KingDJL330 marketing won't allow... unless is a rebirth of the 60's Dart with the Hurricane motor in it
@@MaverickPhantom I think if they brought back the SRT6 in certain models, they would sell more cars than any other American brand. When the SRT and Hemi was gaining popularity, I noticed everyone buying SXT to SRT. With that being said, I think anything with SRT sold at a reasonable price nowadays will be sold out. The market is out there most definitely…it just a big180 for Dodge
The big 3 needs to be American owned
Agreed 100%
O yes
The problem with that logic is that Ford and GM are publically traded. Can only Americans own their stocks??
ABSOLUTELY!!!
Ja, dann kauft es zu einem sehr guten Preis Stellantis ab.
Dann verliert ihr aber auch den EU Markt.
We just need a car guy with a crap-ton of money.
Idk how much they'd be willing to sell them for, but if we're talking real car people buying them I'd say both Tim Allen & Jay Leno could go in on them together & bring Dodge back from the dead
No ones gonna want to put money into dodge. It would be a money pit. Spend billions to get the same and technology. Then spend another couple billion on a plant. Spend more to train your new employees. Then pay the billions in CAFE fines if they don’t pass it on to the consumer. Which puts the vehicles out of reach.
No one at Stellantis has any passion for cars, they have penny pinchers looking to make as much as possible. CDJR DLRS are toast!
Stellantis needs to halt the breaks on the EV! They are way too expensive and not many consumers want them!
Stellantis needs to watch Toyota! The CEO of Toyota listens to what his customers want & it's not an EV!
I have driven Dodges since 1969 but I would consider a KIA now!
Dodge perhaps needs to have a more friendly ICE company buy them & continue ICE manufacturing!
Tavares is just a creepy little suck-up who can only regurgitate corporate buzzwords. BAD things happen when a suck-up becomes the boss.
If there was a fire sale of Dodge or shutdown all together, what would happen to OEM warranty parts? Everything on indefinite backorder and everyone scrambling to find junkyard parts.
Saw that dodge ev muscle car driving around with manufacturer plates....has the charisma of a double door fridge.
I am not a Dodge fan at all. But I watched someone explain why the Dodge V8's are being discontinued and the prices are high. Dodge is paying carbon credits to Tesla in order to make the V8 engines because they do not meet emissions standards. They cannot meet the stringent emissions standards and Dodge was forced to increase the prices because they are bleeding cash. That still doesn't explain to me why Jeep Wranglers are so over priced.
That's because Dodge is crap. The fact that they can't make a V8 to meet emissions standards yet Ford and Chevy are still pumping out V8s for the mustang and corvette...
There were much better ways to fix the carbon credit situation than spitting on the core identity of their brand. They could have taken some time to develop a non-hemi V8 (call it the Magnum) that could get similar test scores to the Coyote or LS. Then either make them easy to tune, or get an aftermarket partnership similar to what Ford has with Shelby for the high performance versions, which would get around those requirements.
Corporate carbon tax on automotive companies that produce high performance V-8 engines nothing more than Biden E.P.A. Minions clamping down, forcing Americans to buy Garbage E.V.s that NOT RELIABLE.
Camaro is discontinued and chevy and Ford producing V-8 because they have E.V.s chrysler doesn't.
Hemi Most powerful V-8 engine ever needs to live..
DEMON SMOKE ANY MUSCLE CAR ON PLANT.
It’s a game of balance. ford and GM have other engines EV’s and hybrids to balance out their V8’s. They also dont base their identity around V8’s like Stellantis. This why the hornet exists because it helps bring down the average. They waited too long to do anything so now they’re scrambling.
@@WoodRumbleFord and GM v8s are also doomed
I think Elon should buy it. He can use his carbon credits from Tesla to build lots of V8 muscle cars. They won't directly compete with Tesla. They can cancel the electric rams and electric Jeeps too.
Why would Elon want this?
@@colayco He would gain access to a dealer network that he can add Tesla to. He would also gain access to a lot of assembly lines. Tesla probably won't last much longer. Saving Chrysler products could help him save Tesla. Plus, elon has a big ego and I think he would love the fame he would get selling vehicles that couldn't be more different that what he has been selling.
@@danthechevymanc6b475You have no fucking clue what Elon is all about. If he wanted to build ICE muscle cars he’d already be doing it and have put Dodge out of business. He also wants nothing to do with dealers, (stealers) otherwise Tesla would have those also. You’ve been living in a cave this past decade, quite obviously. Dodge has NOTHING he can use!
😂😂
Not a bad idea, if he did buy it I doubt he’d cancel the electric rams and jeeps. He’d probably keep them as an option and put Tesla batteries in them. I have no problem with electric versions as an option, I’m not ok with them being the only option.
None of us should be surprised. Peugeot/Fiat have never had any success selling cars in the US market. I’m pretty sure I’m driving my last Dodge!
I only wish the fake(?) ad in Car & Driver touting the return of Pontiac was true. I’d buy an updated Pontiac G8 GXP or GTO in a minute!
Dodge will die for many reasons very sad but all the assholes driving them are driving them into the ground I love the cars between myself and my son we've owned 6 cars from the 2012 rts to the 2021 392s such a shame I will miss the cars big time.
Your honest videos are appreciated.Thank you sir.
Did anyone offer to buy Pontiac? Oldsmobile? How about AMC? Saturn anyone. Nope, it's headed straight to bankruptcy, just like all the rest.
Roger Penske attempted to buy Saturn and Hummer, and came very close to making a deal with GM until the manufacturer he had partnered with dropped out.
Chrysler purchased AMC back in 1987
GM wouldn’t sell Pontiac they still want the name.
@@lancetheb.m.c Your correct, and the Eagle line carried on for 10 years before failing. In summary, the purchase of the brand was a flop.
@@airratchetjockey7605 Well, that's sounds good. But, GM went bankrupt in 2009 and would not even exist today without the governvment bailout. Any asset worth a nickel was sold as part of the bankruptcy in 2009. They may not want to sell it but the name isn't worth anything. GM does tend to recycle models, if they think the name could genrate a sale they might try some badging swap. Hard to evivison a new Pontia platform as they are moving to hybrids and EV's and are killing the very slow selling Camaro.
They are putting the tried and true Pentastar in the RamCharger as a generator. Odd they won’t use they 4 or 6 cylinder Hurricanes 😅
Yo butter why don’t you buy dodge 😂 and fix what Stellantis is doing and help tim kuniskis
Build stuff reliably?
If someone says they refuse to drive anything not 100% made in the USA, they are driving an old 60's or earlier vehicle or a horse.
The prices of MoPar cars and their parts are super high right now that is crazy.
Checked on 4 corner brake job for 2016 chrysler 200C AWD $1,000 I about fell over I said few years ago it was $600.
Save more buy parts have someone or self do brake job.
4 years ago I sold almost all my tools for car maintenance, 59 now.
At will of dealership.
Have great relationship with local Chrysler Dealership.
You mentioned toyota uses a v8 in their trucks, sadly this isn't true anymore. Only v8 toyota has available in the states is the lexus performance cars
100% correct lol I was looking at new model tundras , all had 6 cyl asking $75k
Those hornets are only worth 20 K. Not the prices they are currently charging for them!!
I wouldn't pay even that...I want any kind of "muscle" vehicle, I don't want it to be a crossover....
Chinese and Reliably don't go together man 😅
Sadly, I believe you are right.
Who would want to buy a company that is teetering on failure? They've had numerous owners and none of them have really succeeded.
Great comment. It seems to me, they were failing back in the 60s
Those new tariffs might prevent this acquisition though. I agree with your points, just think the tariffs are a road block
Stellantis is a joke. There is quite a bit of chatter on many CZcams channels stating Dodge, Jeep, Chrysler was paying millions in fines as the Hemi did not meet the EPA emission standards etc. By dropping the Hemi and going to the new ( no one wants) Hurricane engine, Hybrids and Electric Stellantis is saving millions in fines. The Hornet is over priced. I know someone who leased one. Great fuel mileage. Other than that disappointing car.
Chinese don't innovate they copy! Just my humble opinion OC.
To begin with all the Ram and Jeep products are 30-40% too expensive.
Interesting analysis. Thanks.
If you don’t know the history of the dodge brothers, it’s a great story to check out. Crazy how many times Chrysler/dodge has been passed around. They found there nitch with the hemi powered muscle cars and trucks. It is a shame that they are stray from what works.
My wife likes her 23 Hornet, but having spent 17 business days in the service department in 6 months of ownership, we probably won’t keep it. Still having electrical problems.
...and to think we,the US TAXPAYERS, helped save Chrysler; don't think we'll do it again.
Brad, Looking sharp, great job!
Maybe they will finally be a reliable company..
As a Charger Fan 4 over 40+ yrs with 1 car , Today the KIA K5 is now more of a Dodge Charger than what stallantis is trying to pass off as a Charger ........................
I think Ford or GM could benefit if they can eliminate some of their offerings that compete with the Jeeps and things like the Charger, and bring quality at least up to GM standards (which is traditionally higher than Chrysler-Dodge.
Your 100 percent on point . Rip Chrysler/Dodge. You will see jeep Ram dealers now . And they won't sell ram because they folded fiat trucks into it and now Peugeot
If it turns Chinese I will RUN away.
I think GM might be a possibility to buy CDJR, I remember a while back they wanted to buy out the brand mainly for Jeep, don't know if they would now, just thought I would throw that out there
They're not going to. According to Stellantis, Dodge, just like the other 3 brands, being Chrysler, Ram, and Jeep, are have great sales regardless of what happens with the overflowing inventory at the dealerships. And if we like it or not, they're going to roll out their electric vehicles, and there's nothing we can do about it. We have no say to what they want to do. There is a rumor that the Baracuda car that was a Plymouth that might be coming back, but I'm sure you've seen the article.
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I meant having great sales.
Watching this evolution is entertaining.
I've been MOPAR since I was 12, and I'm turning 70 this coming Sunday. I will never buy another Stellantis brand because of all the greed and incompetence, and I'm seriously considering selling my 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited I've owned since it was new even though it only has just over 14,000 miles on it.
@johncarter1137 Hello I hear what you are saying but people are pushing for Toyota and Lexus to bring back more V8 engines as well !!!
Mopar guy since I can remember (59 now) never owner any other brand.
I always get 100,000 miles plus out of all of my dodge chrysler and Plymouth.
I currently have 2016 chrysler 200C AWD very fast car.
And 2019 Jeep cherokee overland 4x4 with 2.0 liter engine 43,000 miles great vehicle.
Staying with MOPAR OR NO CAR!
100 000 miles? If a vehicle cant get 250k miles trouble free then its worthless
I've been saying for months that Stellantis wants to shut down Chrysler, and possibly Dodge, and they want to divest from Ram and Jeep.
Out here in Victoria Texas my local dodge dealer last month had over 40 chargers and challengers total now there at less than 15 brand new chargers and challengers, there trucks ain’t selling for anything though.
Took my Crap Pack to the Dodge dealer by me, it's a ghost town. Had sales men (boys) thinking I was there to buy a car but was just there to get my oil changed , part of my deal to buy my crap pack in the first place...... There was a TON of Jeeps, RAM and TRXs, sitting taking up space. Too bad you can't buy it, Motivator Dodge, has a ring to it
With the discontinuation of the 300, Chrysler now has just one model, the Pacifica mini van. WTF? They can't even bother to rebadge one of their Euro cars as a Chrysler?
Your analysis is flawed, because none of cdjr has any value except for Jeep. That was primary reason that fiat bought it out of bankruptcy in the first place...💯🤣🙄
That’s actually why Chrysler bought AMC back in the day, it was for Jeep
It’s amazing how much turmoil Chrysler has been in over the years the only reason Dodge was as successful as it has been is because of the Daimler merger way back in 1998 the platform used to make a charger, Magnum and challenger is an old Mercedes platform & dodge stuffed big Hemmings into it. There really hasn’t been that much innovation in the Dodge lineup to be truthful. The only thing that’s worth a significant amount in their portfolio is the Jeep brand that is thoroughly being mismanaged due to high MSRP’s and trying to become an upscale brand.
Yes. They are seriously turning off middle class wrangler fans. Go ahead and make the grand cherokee luxury, but the wrangler? No. That was wrong. They are turning away the jeep wrangler customer base with these prices not adding buyers to their loyal customers and enthusiasts. This is just like the woke thing in movies, pandering to an audience that doesn’t exist and as a consequence losing fans too so that star wars for instance doesn’t exist past 1,2,3,4,5,6 (and maybe rogue one). These marketing teams lose more than they win by trying to go towards a customer that doesn’t exist to actually buy their products.
The Collective Name for Chrysler, Dodge,Jeep, and RAM (formerly Dodge Trucks) , and legacy😊 brands Plymouth, DeSoto, and Imperial is THE CHRYSLER CORPORATION
Jeep could easily go off as its own brand and be fine.
I'm with you. Stellantis is garbage. I'm a Mopar guy with a long history owning Dodge, Chrysler, and Jeep cars. I currently daily drive a 98 Dodge Durango with a trusty old 318 under the hood. My first vehicle was a 91 Dodge D150 with a 318. Traditionally Dodge was always known for making great engines, tough trucks, and cars that were fun and interesting. These European guys have no clue what the American car is about and they are hosing us over. We need major change. I really hope they sell these classic and iconic American brands to someone who will care about actually stewarding what they are about.
I’d pay to see you drive a yellow renegade. I drive a 2007 Dodge Ram with a Hemi
Yeah I love to spin the tires! Thank you for speaking the truth!
Us jeep guys aren't going to pay 50k for a 2 door. They can keep em
Dodge content???!!! FINALLY!!😮😂
I'm not certain stelantis is the issue it's Fiat and Fiat parts.
I'm thinking that Stellantis is to CDJR what AMF was to Harley Davdison.
If we can't find an American buyer for Chrysler, Dodge, RAM, Jeep I'd rather see the Japanese buy it.
Dodge is done. No one really buys Dodge anymore.
Lee Iacocca bought a bunch of Mitsubishis and labeled them Dodge 🤔🤔. If im at Stellantis I buy Fisker and rebadge them as Dodge. Now you can make all the Hellcats and Scatpacks you can sell.
Tundra’s no longer come with a V8
Thats been a big mistake
@@Jeff-sp7bg they’re selling well here
@@Eatgrease wheres here?
@@Jeff-sp7bg TX
This was FIATS plan from the go...this is why they spun off RAM as a separate brand. Marchionne 10yr plan was to do away with all cars and keep only Jeep & RAM. All cars were to be rebadged Alpha & FIATS. The new Charger is supposed to have an optional 550hp hurricane motor.
I hope any one will bring challenger hellcat back with redeye hemi.
I will cry from happiness
I remember going on a lot and looking at a Scat Pack widebody challenger in 2019 for 42k otd this new shit at almost 60-70k lol no thanks especially when nothing incurs that 20-28k increase
G.M. spread costs on E.V. development on all products Bob Lutz explained this in video few years ago that why big suburban and Escalade are $100,000 plus about 5 years ago.
Biden E.P.A. IS TO BLAME FOR THIS NONSENSE
If a company buys, they will raise to prices to recoup their money. If Dodge drops the price, people will raise back up.
Currently looking for hellcat powered challenger demon or widebody jailbreak.
Dealers have more than doubled sticker price on demons and challenger hellcats.
How many unit do stellnts sell of this jewel?
The only way those brands can be saved is if the auto union buys complete control of those names and they get help from an investor with big pockets. The Chinese would make those brands even worse and I don't see them bringing the hemi back. At least if the auto union had control we know that they would promote not only American jobs but they would also promote sales in America meaning they would bring back vehicles and options that made those brands money like the hemi..
Why are you pulling motorhomes with your truck? Did they break down?
The dealers and workers should buy it.
Ha ha, too funny.
Imagine how different everything would be if FCA would have joined with Renalt/Nissan like the original plan was.
Howdy. Why can't the employees buy rhe company? I habe heard of employee owned companies can do really well as they know how the operation is run and can make it work as theycall have a vested interest i the company. Just my humble thought. Cheers
Need gearheads to run the show.
Stellantis is to CDJR, what AMF was to Harley Davidson.
Similar to a football ownership group..I wish Leno & some others real enthusiasts who ❤️ Dodge would form a conglomeration and buy it💰💯
Well, I think Leno is too smart. Dodge hasn’t been good in 50 years.
They are killing dodge for they can try to replace it with alpha Romeo
Jay Leno. That would be amazing.
That’s what I was thinking too. Build quality ought to be the best in the business them.
@@patricktober2816sorry, Jay is too smart. Maybe they could donate it. Would you take it?
@@georgeburns7251 Sure I could take it free.
When things stop making sense at corporate, it’s possible the company is being positioned for a sale. Seen it before on a few occasions.
Im a dodge master tech and have been for a few years now. What im seeing on the garage side is absolutely heart breaking. Ive been a diehard mopar fan my whole life. I would not buy any new mopar products outside of the Ram 2500/3500 HD line. Only place the Hemi is staying. The quality of vehicles coming out of factories is absolutely terrible. The most awarded suv in the Grand Cherokee is one of the worst vehicles being made now. The hornet do not sell and when they sell them, theyvare usually broke. Have a 15 mile hornet that i am putting a new hybrid battery in already because it died sitting on the lot.
What if FORD or Chevy wants to buy it
Preferably ford imo, respectively.
Lotus, Landrover are now foreign owned, but still made in the UK.
Someone with balls from the US needs to buy them and make them great again.
Nobody is willing to throw that much money away
@@larryjolicoeur7169how about Trump? He has gone bankrupt so many times, the judge knows his kids.
You’re probably right about this!!
There will always be a market for Wranglers. The rest of the Jeep lineup won’t sell at their current MSRP. If priced reasonably they will sell too.
Wranglers have been priced beyond their market. 50k+ for a Sport hard top with power equipment, 60k+ for a Sahara. That is for a gas Jeep, the hybrids are about 8k+ more!!!
@@mikeodonnell5430 There was a time that I’d agree that Wranglers were overpriced but……The technology that goes into Wranglers now is a significant reason for the higher prices especially for the higher trim levels. Ironically, customers buy the higher priced trim levels but then never take them off road.
Stellantis publicly stated their goal was to turn the Jeep brand into a luxury vehicle. They have clearly done that but nothing except Wranglers are selling. Stellantis has recently announced they are going to build a very basic Wrangler next year with none of the expensive technology currently in their higher trim levels. Estimated MSRP $25,000 range. Prototype looks very similar to the India produced “Thar” which is a basic knockoff version of the original Jeep Wrangler.
I think I saw a prototype version on a TFL CZcams. “If” that’s what they are going to build it should be a huge success.
I’m just waiting for the forced price drop
It might be it's only hope . Maybe Ford or General Motors could pick it up and salvage it.
Poor workmanship how long is that car going to stay together. Nope
That’s fine. There’s still zero chance, however buy a product with that brand-name on it after what they did during Covid.
Lotus withe super charged Taco 4 cylinder is a great dependable car and a fast hot rod .
Been looking for Demon or dodge challenger widebody jailbreak Mark up is Ridiculous.
Showroom hand car wash in Scotch Plains, NJ (they buy and sell cars) has one that is loaded. Sticker is nearly 100k.
Rather TESLA by FCA or just Dodge
This the end of all things it was great run you will always be remembered 😢
You're hilarious. I've been telling my wife about the Rovers for years that they suck. 😅😅😅
Ford GM kia Honda
As a tech, seeing what Stealantis has done to my beloved cars is killing me. They fired all of our tech/engineer support and farmed it out to India. They "revamped" our service information and wire schematics that are needed to fix these cars and completely messed up the usable interface. Half the information is missing that used to be there. The schematics are no longer easy to use. Mechanics are a cranky bunch and now they just screwed up our only help line when their POS cars have some oddball issue and made finding any information on how to fix them more complicated to find. AND THEY CUT THE LABOR TIMES THAT THEY PAY US BY ABOUT 25%. We already were loosing money on warranty jobs and now they are about to loose many of their good technicians because we have had enough and are looking for better opportunities.
The new ram coming out doesnt have a i4 its the pentastar v6. Which is a dated engine than was NEVER designed to be used as a generator. It is a full size car engine being used as a generator which is just stupid. You need torque for a generator not a 300hp engine.
I agree that Dodge needs to be sold. The important thing is that the new buyer has a reasonable vision for the future. I want a V8, and higher build quality. If the Chinese can deliver, I’m in.
Cerberus! It worked out SO well the first time!!! 😂😂😂