1600's Spanish Outlaw Pedro Nevarez lost treasure cave in New Mexico
Vložit
- čas přidán 19. 02. 2022
- Outlaw Pedro Nevarez operated in the mid 1600's in the Rio Grande River valley when the Spanish were still setting up missions along the Rio Grande River. His gang robbed many pack trains supplying these missions and churches with gold relics. He operated in what is today southern New Mexico. A couple accounts of the treasure details still survive today.
Copyright Disclaimer under Section 107 of the copyright act 1976, allowance is made for fair use for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. No copyright infringement intended. ALL RIGHTS BELONG TO THEIR RESPECTIVE OWNERS. - Zábava
So back many years before my father was born, my grandfather over many summers got the story from old Apache lady that there A Spaniard treasure buried in a deep cave in New Mexico. My grandfather and his associates launched many expeditions and found the conquistadors remains on the return expedition. The cave had collapsed and nearly killed the entire party.
I have spent lots of time all over the Dona Ana’s ,Organ’s, Caballo’s, Redhouse and even over on Ted Turners Armadaris …in the 80’s I treasured hunted for a few years and read everything I could about this and many other treasures ..some well known and some just stories passed down …I still spend more time out and about in the hills then most and although I’m still hunting just not treasure hunting but I always have an eye out and these legends are still on my mind… your video sure brings back good memories and refreshes my interest …thank you
Maybe I'll see you out and about, those are my favorite places to go as well.
Sounds like the guy claimed the land. There should be old claim maps or records of where his various claims were.
Sounds like you’ve spent a ton of time hunting outdoors and researching stories. Have ya ever made a book list or ya recommend any good books?
Great that you are sharing this one. Your Lost Adams video was spot-on with one particular account, but this one is a bit mixed/crossed with what I'm familiar with. I lived down there and have been to Ben Brown's hole, in the Organs, Caballos, etc. The cable Ben Brown used to climb in his hole is still there, attached to the Cedar (it is not cut down). You can see the scrape of his one-man bucket line operation on the lip of the cave. What only locals know is that there were other signs, including "king's heads" in that same area. There is a very nice spring that had water and frogs even at the end of an 8-year drought one canyon over. The hottest gold mine in the county was actually a couple hills over. Nevarez and his bunch roamed a lot of local mountains. I have waybills for Organs, Caballos, and even into present-day Texas. When you say "mule" you really should be saying "string of mules" - an "atajo" is a whole group. This means the treasures are much larger than you may think. For someone who seems to not have lived down there for decades, you actually did a really good job. It's just a whole 'nother world to see some of this stuff yourself - but vids like yours can get the journey of research started! There's a picture of the main Guadalupe glyph at Ben Brown's hole in my book, as well as a complete Waybill translation for one of the sites (cut the gold with an axe).
What is your book called?
Can I order ur book
@@brondomoseley9205 Yes, I would like to read his book too!
@@tchilino78 Hi, it is "Golden Tome of Treasure Signs Symbols and Marks #1". Yes, an annoyingly long and aspirational title. Book 2 is started but sidetracked. Arthur L. Campa's book "Treasure of the Sangre de Christos" is the source of a lot of my info on Ben Brown (other than boots on the actual ground and talking to old timers in the region) - he was an actual historian and folklorist, not an amateur like me.
@@brondomoseley9205 Hi, it should be on Amazon. Golden Tome of Treasure Signs Symbols and Marks #1. See the comment above for a really good book: Treasure of the Sangre de Christos by Arthur L. Campa.
This is amazing!! I was born and raised in Las Cruces and I can't say I have heard this story before, which is fascinating!
I'm in El paso and into gold prospecting for gold and treasure stories really gets my blood pumping. If anybody near me wants to get together and go hunting leave me a reply. I built a jeep just for going out in the desert looking for gold lol
Senor chapo mucho grasses the grasses senior
Hey hmu I also am looking in spots
@Frank Cerda as soon as I get my new jeep engine built I'll be ready. I'm way more prepared than I was 4 months ago
I just received my new engine yesterday. Been waiting a long time. Now I just need to get it all installed and be ready for fall
Great video! Thank you! I would love to follow these directions and search for it. It would be a lot of fun!
That coin is incredible. Wow.
White Sands Military Base has swallowed up 90% of the prime locations for the old mines in that area. I regularly hike in from the West moving East not far from Organ pass and have recovered MANY ore samples thick with silver in the tailings from these hard to get to mines.
I'm from El Paso. Oro Grande new Mexico, supposed to have some ore around the mountains there.
We found silver pellets in the Organs two canyons over from Dripping Springs. Never found the mine. I wonder how old they are.
AWESOME CONTENT BROTHER!!!! THANK YOU FOR SHARING 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Inspiration for the movie "Chato's Land"?
Good, appropriate visual images provided synchronously with storyline.
Kudos for that... it is rare with informational videos.
Interesting story. Well present in good pronunciation. Thanks. India.
This is the best set of instructions on how to find the nut house.
I thoroughly enjoy reading/hearing about lost treasures. This is a detailed story. Maybe some day these treasures will be found
The road along the Rio Grande is called Camino Real.
The full name is El Camino real de Tierra adentro.
There is a very intersting looking mesa between Las Cruces and Alamogordo that I have wondered about
Did his report say he was about to give up before finding a silver coin?
If I traced those peaks to a cross chiseled into stone, I could never give up.
the letter is a fantastic story, too good to be true
2 different letters.
very similar details to the location.
I mean, why couldn't it be possible?
What a tale.
My ancestors found some of this Treasure in NM.
Good luck finding more guys.
They found what was supposed to be the majority of the cache.
Not possible
Im related to Pedro Nevarez, i need my treasure back
@@nevarez77u arent come and see what happens if u can even get here
@@nevarez77 he stole everything. You goung to pay it back?
Hey I really enjoyed your video I'm heading to Mexico and I'll be there for a few months is there a way that you can direct me on how to obtain more of the same information you have shared about this lost loot ide greatly appreciate it and if I happen upon it your the first and only to get a piece of the 🥧
Are you traveling to Mexico or New Mexico? This treausre is/was located in New Mexico.
@@portalofwisdom8858 hello and yes ilk be traveling to New Mexico this summer I have some family and friends there I'm going to bring gpr and also 3dimensional scanners and high end metal detectors
😊👍
'Castilian Spanish' normally indicates a pronunciation difference, not a difference in actual words, although the words might have changed over the years.
Maybe meant the style of cursive handwriting. Handwriting from earlier times is difficult to read, for most people
@@dkhnova ha...cursive writing is hard to read for many l, since some can't write that well.
Even when it was done correctly, handwriting from centuries ago is hard for most people to read today.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_hand
Great story !
Got visit Dina Ana mission right here in New Mexico Dona Ana county
So this is very similar to the Padre La Rue story describing it almost Identical. I studied and searched, and DOC Noss found it, unfortunately it’s on White Sands and the government cleaned it out in the 70’s Victorio Peak. After research the legend is true but the treasure is gone.
What year did they go down together?
What about Manuel garcia and the original zorro inn southern California
Thanks, I will have to look that one up and do a little research.
I have heard of him, he was Apache.
My family has been in nm since the first spainyards so I read these facts in comments …. Instead of bursting bubbles I’ll let them dream but there one hundred percent is lost treasures that will never be found in our state I wish upon the stars many o night that I will find my share one day
My last name is Nevarez I wonder if Pedro is related to me
My family name too
Probably was
Sorry but Mexican or Apache … Mexicans are native Americans just the same. We call each other cousins everyone assumes bcz it’s a Spanish lady name that your Mexican. Smh
Hmm well if a lot of natives died from illnesses and lot Spanish people lived in Latin America technically a ton of people are white. The Spanish were ruled by the moores in Spain so technically a lot of em are half white and half black or Africa which is why they have olive skin. There’s a difference between being a Native American and someone that’s a descendant from Spain.
Although the U.S. says anyone from Mexico is Latino. Doesn’t matter if you’re grandparents are Italian or Irish or Chinese you’re Latino.
We are all children of GOD
No es lo mismo un azteca, un mexicano, un apache . Son diferentes. Por cultura y religión.😊
Los españoles somos blancos europeos y mediterráneos. Salvo excepciones. La ignorancia tiene la boca muy grande.😊
I’m Navajo and Navajo and Apache don’t associate ourselves with Mexican people but never discriminated against other ethnic groups even today
Has anyone tried to find the old mining claim records?
James Reavis probably did.
There certainly, were no types of guns other than black powder single shots of early Spanish order. And, not many at that.
Chato's Land
Charles Bronson
In the 1600's the Organ mountains were called mountains of solitude. So if this document said Organ Mountains , obviously it is just another fraudulent story of this area I grew up in.
Organ means solitude in a different language dude.
It was translated.
@@Vision-MileHighWhat language?
pack trains ? you mean all mule horse and oxen ? right ?
If he filed a mining claim in the area there is a record of its existence…. Or…
It’s another tall tale.
When it was all New Spain?
Viva España...California,Texas,Arizona,New Mexico,Florida,Nevada,Montana,Utach,Luisiana....fueron del Imperio Español ...Aquí se habla español...
Have you ever looked into the possibility of the story that it could be misleading for what I have been listening to what you are saying but I have also been looking for a long time and I have learned that most every thing is not named correctly and like Guadeloupe mtns was a much larger area than the boundaries today and I noticed creeks and rivers don't have the same name that is there today
That's the problem with many of these Lost Gold mine and lost treasure stories, the names of places and locations have changed through the years. The lost treasure at Skeleton Canyon is the same situation, no one knows which mountain it was that the outlaws called Davis Mtn.
@@portalofwisdom8858 I do a.lot of research myself and I don't have any issues with skeleton canyon I found that location you are talking about the location west of lordsburg
@@portalofwisdom8858 this organ mtns has been interesting enough for me to dig a little deeper into the correct path. But when I get back to Texas I will take a trip to see what happens with the search
I’m sorry but it would be very easy to find where Brown’s location was. The legend says he filed a claim on the property. Claims are generally 20 acres in size. It would be nothing to look up his claim and get the coordinates to it. Then finding the 3 peaks should be easy as well. Then it’s just a matter of the 250/100 paces. Or you could simply take a month and go over the entire claim to find the cave. So I believe this legend might have a bit of truth at its foundation but as with most legends I believe over the years there has been quite a bit of embellishment to make it sound real. The fact that there was a claim filed alone without anyone else finding it says it not really. Pedro’s legend is even easier to debunk. He was obviously doing whatever he could to get his jailer to help him escape. I am sure he gave the guy some real clues to a area that existed and wasn’t hard to find. He would want the jailer to find the area quickly and then after the secret location wasn’t found he would help Pedro escape in exchange for being led to the location. Pedro more than likely used a location he visited often for one reason or another because he would want the clues he gave to lead to a real place and be very accurate. You know for sure this legend is made up because he said that the treasure was enough to benefit “many families”. If there was truly enough treasure that many families would benefit then I highly doubt he would be robbing mule trains knowing full well if he was caught he would hang. Why risk hanging when he could simply take the treasure and live the rest of his life in luxury? It’s well known that outlaws of the old west would quickly spend the loot from their robberies and have to full another job quickly. They lived fast and hard knowing more than likely they would meet their end by bullet or noose when they would still be relatively young. So they rarely saved anything unless they had a family to support. There have been loot stashed by Jesse James found in his old haunts but he was the exception to the rule. Highly doubt a band of outlaws would hide all of their loot and look for another target to Rob without living it up for awhile first. Only someone like Billy the Kid with an actual personal grudge against his victims would stash most of their loot for when they finish with whatever vendetta they are on. Pedro’s is the easiest legend to disprove I have heard of in several years.
I'm 63 from El Paso Texas. From what I understand he buried a lot of lute in the caves up in the mountains around there, the organ mountains Oro Grande New Mexico. AGary Springs New Mexico.
@@robertmcdonald5277 Aguirre Springs.
Why would he go to all the effort to dig out so much, then file a mine claim, then while he is struggling for money just ignore his "treasure hoard" for 20 years.
Sounds like nonsense, but the letters are fascinating.
Not nonsense. Around the time he was pulling gold out of the chamber, a new law (below) changed everything about owning gold and now it needed to be difficulty sold on the black market instead and you could go to prison if caught.
In 1933, Executive Order 6102 had made it a criminal offense for U.S. citizens to own or trade gold anywhere in the world, with exceptions for some jewelry and collector's coins. These prohibitions were relaxed starting in 1964
@@portalofwisdom8858 I'm sorry I'm not up with American mining laws, why couldn't people mine or have gold, or was it only found gold coin hoards that it applied to?
@@portalofwisdom8858 that information is not entirely correct
If one were to find a treasure like this can you keep all of it?
I would keep every bit I found! Why let anyone know?
keep your mouth shut.
Maybe it's bc I'm autistic and oddly good at recognizing patterns but this letter is too eerily similar (in locations, instruction, order, treasure, the order in which the treasure should be found, and how it instructs the person to go about finding it, even to the tone of the letter) to the letter left regarding the Tres Hermanas Mountains mule treasure. I mean it's almost like the same guy wrote it. Go listen to both letters back to back and you'll see what I mean...
Like Charles Bronson "Chato's Land"?
El Paso del Norte would be modern day Juarez, which was part of New Mexico at that time
He was not the only "Chato".
From what I know the us army found the mine and it doesn’t exist now so yeah I don’t think it’s there anymore
Two different mines/caves, my friend. Different sides of the mountains.
Outlaws always spent their money quickly
Where you gonna spend it?
No Walmart yet.
@@markbates3180 at the brothel
I can find that.
you sound very passionate about the spanish settling here in the united states before english colonists. but you are forgetting that the spanish have always been conquerors of the mexican natives who were now encroaching on indian lands
Weren’t Mexican natives also considered Native American or Indian just like the other tribes? The Aztecs allegedly came down or migrated there and conquered the land in Mexico so they themselves were conquerors and invaders.
@@koltoncrane3099 ... None of the Mexican people or any of the Aztecs or their ancestors ever had any interest in the area which is now the United States.
It was already found and smelted down
Sheeeew, you promised not to say anything
I am Pedro Nevares offspring, and therefore, the treasure belongs to me, stay away. The story is told in code, I know how to get to it.
Let's go ahead partner..
Me too!
My brother and I found the treasure back in th early 80s. We spent it all at the arcade in the Mesilla Valley mall. Sorry.
Pedro stole everything from my ancestors. I will find you an d you can pay me.
Chato more or less translates to pug faced. Dogs like pugs, bull dogs etc are called chato/a a lot. It’s used as a nickname for the most part. Sometimes used in a demeaning manner as well. I wanna say that for the time having those features were deemed unfavorable to this day.
Chato is used for people with flat and wide nose.
Sounds like a n inside job?}
I thought monks know Kung Fu ? Lol just kidding that would have made an interesting western movie . But the treasure was discovered by some guy named Doc Noss or something like that which he stashed at least some of the gold and then the U.S. military stole the rest of it
Yes, you are talking about the Victorio Peak treasure. It coul dbe the same treasure. I will be posting soon about the Victorio Peak treasure and Doc Noss.
@@portalofwisdom8858 yes but from what I understand Doc Noss hid an unknown amount of that treasure somewhere around where he lived and I think lidar can be helpful in the search
seems strange that only 80 years or more after the Spanish Conquest of the Aztecs in that area, that there are judges and courts..hangings? never heard this before..sounds 1800's..but in 1600..
There are Spanish missions in New Mexico that predate the Pilgrims arriving at a Plymouth Rock. Spanish were definitely here in the very early 1600s.
Spanish were UNRIGHTFULLY here.
You meant to say.
@@Vision-MileHigh rightfully here
If he was apache or another native, he wasn't Spanish, Spaniards are white European
people can be mixed race
Spaniards or people from Spain were ruled by moores or African. They have brown skin or olive skin cause black people ruled them. In my mind from Spain people and Mexican people I’ve met they’re both brown not white
crane ew the moors had no effect u mongrel
I take it you've never been to Spain. Lots of brown and black people. Been that way for centuries
It is very evident that Mexicans always get belittled or set aside from being the warriors that we always have been. He is Indian not Mexican okay his name is Spanish & so is his nickname but he is Indian make that make sence duhhh🤣😂😃😉👎
columbine mine is same address
These stories are only a little true. Sounds like the Padre La Rue.
The outlaw wrote the map, why didn't he just keep the gold and spend it. All the people he killed and risked bring killed paid no dividends
It wasn't a crucifix it was a cross
Damn, that miner/hunter was kind of a dick to destroy all the markers the way he did
At least he showed it to Campo though or we would never know it existed
Apaches are Mexicans. All Mexicans are native and European mixed.
Well there’s also the African American slaves that then mixed in becoming considered Latinos.
Then also ya got the Spaniards from Spain. Spain was ruled by the moores a long time. So it’s possible some in Spain are white but others are African. So when people say Europeans conquered Latin America it could be argued Africans also conquered Latin America. Idk. I’ve never heard they did a mass exodus just that Spain defeated the moores or something
Outlaw.. what thats my grandfather how dare u.. we are children of Tuatha De Danaan.. okay Tafolla city of Tafalla founded in Tubal Spain grandchild of Noah 🕳️👹🍀🫵🫰🫴❤️🔥👁️👺 #ComptonCaliLove #Mexico