Michelin Pilot Sport, 5 - The Gold Standard
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- Here is my opionon on the new Michelin Pilot Sport 5 Tyres.
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This tyres are unbelievable,i put 1000 miles on them last week motorway they are so comfortable no tyres noise whats a ever good ,I can’t comment about grip as I don’t race but coming off roundabout rear don’t slip .Very very happy .
No noise whatsoever has me sold
What car do you own?
Your Video made me buy them today, 4 to be fitted next week to my Mini cooper S F56, can't wait.
That’s awesome Dean! Be nice to have a lil update when you’ve had them on the car for a while! Let us know if they’re as good as I said 😛
Thanks Reg, great video. I was thinking of these for my M140i as still on the original supersports that came with the car from new in 2017. (Yes only done 12000 miles in 5.5 years) and I really do struggle for grip now even though I still have 5mm of tread. I was looking around for tyres and after your video will be getting these PS5's ordered this week. Thanks mate. Stay safe and well.
Get them - I went from the PSS to PS4 and now on PS5 on my 2017 M140i. For daily driving with some open road touring and maybe the occasional track day, they work beautifully. The original PSS used to set off DSC all the time in the wet. The PS4 and now the PS5, you have to be really be lighting it up to break traction.
I second that. My brother replaced the PSS on his M140i after 67000 kms and still tread left on the tire with the PS5, because of the time that passed since manufacturing. I drove the car on dry roads and i didnt feel any difference (except a little bit more traction at the starts), but he says the traction control intervention is greatly reduced, and in the wet the difference is abysmal, the PS5 is a much better tire (the low point of the PSS is wet driving, the car is barely drivable at best with that tire and even dangerous at times).
@@sebastiancatalan1376 wow, 67k km on a set of performance tyres that you can't rotate from front to back! You must have worn them down to the belts!
@@mshackleton1 you wont believe me, but no: still had some tread, but this year was a rainy season where my brother lived and he really noticed it driving the car, so he decided to change the tires
Reg great video again. How about you fit the Reiger rear diffuser for us and show us how it’s done? 👍👍👍
Keep up the good work
Nice video Reg. Completely agree, I made the switch in Summer and it's such a better tyre!
Getting these fitted to my 04 V70R tomorrow can’t wait to try them out
Very nice. Report back if you like them 😁👌
Went for a good 3 hour drive last night motorway, b roads etc amazing tyre even came across some rain most impressed 👍 Subscribed.
Hi Reg,
I bingewatched most of your vids lately, and you share so much wisdom, but unfortunatelly I didn't take notes.
It would be nice if on your youtube bio one could see your up to date setup and modifications.
e.g.: lsd, suspension, oil, coolant, tires.
Are you on a square setup right?
Hey, thank you so much for watching! I will do a video, rounding everything up soon. That’s a great idea!
Thank for the uploading .👍🏼
Thank you for watching 🤩
Very nice interesting video Reg! Just food for thought, I have still a bit more than a year of BMW warranty so I will need to stick to my current MPSS *. I like the MPSS but it's an old tyre(introduced in 2011, with tyre knowledge the years before), I know from Jonathan Benson YT and a relative who works in the tyre industry that specially developed tyres such as * or ND Porsche tyres are completely different tyres than their non-marked variants, they are also developed on even more parameters. I recently saw that the fronts are available in MPS4 in * as well as in ND0, so I'm curious to try the * ones. I'm also curious to know the Traction, Temperature and Wear numbers and compare with the PS5's. No doubt the PS5's are good, I had PS4's on another car and it felt like driving on rails, especially in the wet. I heard the PS5 don't have super stiff sidewalls and they steer very light.. keep up the good work! Cheers!
As long as your tyres meet the specs on the door plate, you shouldn't have any issues with warranty. The PS5 should easily meet that.
I fitted these to my 128ti and the difference was massive! The "old" tyres were Pirelli P Zeros and came with the car when new in October 2022. And they were shocking. The Michelins brought improvements in grip but also in terms of ride comfort - far less crashy and much more supple.
Nice Andrew!
Glad to hear that. I almost purchased P zeros for my 2022 I30 Nline. Decided to go with the pilot 5s they are getting installed tomorrow can't wait 🤘🤘
@@rusty899 Hi. How are the PS5s?
@@yehudarov9282 they are great! Loving them
@rusty899 Very happy to hear. I am fitting them tomorrow on a Honda Civic 11th gen
Thought about these to replace PS4S but chose all season Michelin Cross Climate2 so car totally secure and stable on the road all year round in the uk where have 🥶 and some snow that varies between little to a few feet.
I really want to move to this tyre next time around. I like to run one tyre that can do all things - wet weather, spirited drives and maybe a track day or two per year. Would you say they’re up to the task? I’ve got a stock power 240i with LSD and suspension.
If you’re planning doing a few track days with your M240i, I would rather run the GoodYear Eagle F1 Supersport. They wear better and are much more suited to track driving. The PS5’s will work on track, but I would go for the Goodyears in your case.
went from primacy hp to ps5 on my brz and the difference was insane. Driving in the wet no long has me sideways half the time
Nice Lawrence. Yeah.. I agree, it’s nice to not worry about the car suddenly being the on the wrong side of the road 🤣
Ur car sounds amazing.
Also i Ordered mine today. I have got rear wheel bmw 430d mapped to stage 1
Front tyres are michelin sport 4 and rear are michelin sport 5. Is that OK??
Thank you. Your car will be fine with those tyres
Can I ask please which country the PS 5 are made in.
Great video, getting new PS5’s on my 3 series next week
Thank you, Mark. You’re gonna love them!
It is hard to push most tyres so hard to rank them on the street. Most ultra high performance tyres have similar performance. Sometimes slightly better in the wet or the dry, or better steering feel.
The PS5 aren't designed to significantly outperform the PS4 dynamic performance, but they are designed to improve tyre life though. Considering how good the PS4 tyres are that isn't such a bad thing.
What does it say on the sidewall where the PS5 was made? The PS4 had 2 versions, a euro-made one with softer compound, and a Thailand-made PS4 with a harder and less grippy compound. Obviously the euro one was superior
I had factory fitted PSS* on my M240i which were bonkers in the dry but had to change as they hate cold temps! I was deciding between GY A6 and MPS5. I went for the MPS5s as one of "Mr Benson's" videos mentioned aquaplaning which I have experienced and was keen to avoid.
In short, TO ME, the MPS5 felt quite a bit of a touring tyre compared to the MPSS. It was a great tyre re: grip and cold/wet but so much understeer and not very quiet and didn't feel "sporty". I put on GY A6s now and it's night & day - much quieter, more "sporty" feel and great sidewall protection- something the MPS5 lacks, as I found out last summer on a trip across to Bratislava and back. Just my "2 penneth", as I see most here drive the m14oi. Informative video. Thanks🎉👍
I’m very tempted to go back to GoodYear next time round to try the GY Supersports or A6’s. This comment makes me want to do that. Also it’s fun to try different tyres. Glad you’ve found a tyre that works well for you, and thanks for watching !
- Road Reg
Great video. Now I want to investigate summer tyre options for my F31 340i. Need run-flats though and not sure PS5 tyres offer that. Will go investigate...
PS5 is not a RFT
Why do u wanna go RFt ?
@@vollcare4076 The 340i has no space for a spare tyre :-). Got roadside assistance and all that so could take a chance...
@@davidbell5525 The improvement is as good as everyone says if you ditch run flats
Great review
Thank you 😃
Just the video I was looking for. Currently still on the Super Sports and was wondering about switching to the PS5's.
Not impressed with the Super Sports in the cold and wet.
Thank you for this very interesting review.
You said your wife's car has Primacy 4+ tyres.
Would you say there is a big difference in terms of noise and confort ?
I am looking for new tyres for my Alfa Giulia (300hp, 500 Nm), and PS5 would probably be the best choice in terms of driving, except that I am a bit worried about the confort and noise.
Thanks !
I think you’ll be absolutely fine for road noise with the PS5’s.
@@roadreg1820 OK, thanks!
I can confirm! Went from super sport to ps5 on the m140i, the grip level is so much beter (especially in the rain)! Even without the lsd i have grip in second gear. (Saving up for an OS Giken Superlock or m performance lsd.)
Belgium? Im fitting an OS GIKEN in May, really cant wait :)
Yes, Belgium! What garage are you going? I found a garage in NL, +/-2600€
@@victordaemers1828 hardeman motorsport. OS GIKEN is wel the best
I went from PSS to PS5 a week ago on my 2019 2.0 Mazda MX5. I couldn't get PSS because they are out of stock, but I had to replace them, because they were completely bald on the outer edges (fast cornering).
PS5 tires grip well, but they feel floaty in corners compared to PSS. They don't have the sharp response like PSS do.
Edit: I drive mostly on dry sunny Adriatic roads :)
@@AndY1ksi i think the ps5 is better suited for country’s with bad/cold weather (like Belgium, UK…) PSS is beter in good weather. But pss dry’s out and gets worthless
These tyres are amazing. Running them on my polo with 300hp and No wheel spin in 2 gear.. Its crazy
Wow that’s impressive! Thanks for watching 😁😎
Hi can i ask does the m140i come with underbody brace as standard? Thanks
It doesn’t no.
Was a great little vid. Did i miss the brake test?
Thank you
I had Michelin PS5 on all corners of my Toyota Supra Mk5 and noticed that at 20k miles awful noise from the wheels ... when taking it to a garage they showed me that all four tyres had worn unevenly on the inside edges .. the tyres were essentially no longer round ... it was noticed that all four tyres has worn differently on the wear indicator areas ( 3 dot blocks) ... FYI .. alignment was spot on and car never driven hard or tracked. 20K is good for a set of tyres but with 5mm left it did mean that i still had to change them prematurely.
Hey Reg thanks for the video. I heard that ps series are not good for the first miles. They say that until tyres get warm enough they slide and it is impossible to stop without abs. What do you think about that ?
This is not true. I wouldn’t recommend going 70 miles an hour and doing emergency brake tests as it’s best practice to give the tyres at least 50 miles to bed in.
I bought the michelin pilot sport 4s, anyone I know and see talking about it said its the best tyre for your daily car. The cup 2 is even better but I don't do any tracks so its a waste of money .
The 4s are available in 18”. Both 235 & 255 in 18. Rare, but available.
I just mounted the PS5 on my Mazda MX5 ND RF ex184hp. They look beautiful. I did not have much time to try those out yet. I hope i took the right choice. I am used to have Bridgestone.
You’re gonna notice a huge difference!
@@roadreg1820 i see you in the video tried those on wet. Here in Italy it doesn't rain much as in UK. So I hope theee tyres will be fenomenal also on dry streets.
Great wet weather tyre definitely 👍
Have you had a chance to test also the GY Asym6 as a lot of people even prefer these slightly over PS5 (for same grip but a bit better lateral feedback)
I went from the Michelin pss to Goodyear eagle assy 6 , I had them on the car for 200 miles , worst tyres I’ve ever had , couldn’t believe how soft the sidewalls were when they were off the rims , like jelly , sold them off and went back to star marked pss 92y , I only use my car in dry love the pilot super sports
@@Addselwyn yes the PSS has more „sharpness“ in steering feel as the Asym6.
But people or tests say that PS5 is even softer than asym6
@@vollcare4076 I’m not joking when I say this but my car was undriveable with the assy 6 , car would swerve all over the road under acceleration, I’m running a pure 800 on a 99 Ron tune @ 540 bhp 700 nm
@@Addselwyn for sure that’s a lot of torque ;)
Do you have
- an LSD ?
- solid rear subframe bushes, or PU inserts ?
…that will help in straight line stability
@@vollcare4076 🙂 , yes I have the bmw M Performance LSD , rear subframe inserts , Bilstein B6 damptronic struts ,Eibach pro springs , bmw under chassis brace , ultra racing strut brace , bmw m4 front arms and tension struts
I am all in dilemma is ps4s better i need tyre for comfort and probably 30% for performance i will be doing long journeys round EU and Uk summer BMW 535d Touring . What do you recommend? Thanks
Which size ?
PS5 is more quiet, more fuel efficient, a bit better in the wet
PS4S has better steering feel and better heat performance
@@vollcare4076 245/40/19
Definitely PS5’s if you can get them!
@@shmeker3000 PS5 has better comfort, PS4S better sport tyre
Also Conti SC7 is a great sport tyre which you can also use as a daily (same as PS4S category, but newer/better tyre)
Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 6 or Michelin Pilot Sport 5’s?
Both good options.
I feel less bad buying mps5 for my 645ci now instead of mps4s
I will stick mps4s though on my e63s when the goodyear f1 supersports which i dont like much. I think the mps4s is probably a better tyre for that car
Nice video. Was about to pull the trigger on some Asymmetric 6's, but this has got me thinking. Seat Leon Fr sport 2.0 TSI. So hardly a flying machine, but sporty enough to warrant some good tyres...
Thanks Joe. I’ve heard a lot of good things about ASY6’s. I don’t think they’ll be much different to the PS5’s if I’m totally honest!
@@roadreg1820 You're probably right. The Goodyears have more rim protection, but the 5's have a better sidewall. It might come down to looks...
@@flowjoe100 I do wish the Michelin had better rim protection. That was one of my great things about the GY’s I had on before. Good luck choosing! 😃
£480 (~$600 USD) that seems like a deal. In the United States that size for the Pilot Sport 5 would run about $950 USD to install at Costco. For my car (BMW X5 45e) the cost was about $1250 USD
I just fitted my Mazda 3 with a set of PS5 and it ran me AUD $1256 (just for the tyres, not the fitting cost etc.). They were running a promotion $150 discount so I got it for AUD $1106. Expensive.
i just went from the ps4 to 5s on my st.only dne hundred miles or so but can tell already they are better
how these compares to pirelli p zero pz4?
Not sure as I’ve never tried them
I haven't used the PS-5, but I have used the PS -4 and currently have Goodyear Assymetric 6. The Goodyears are much better, especially in the cold and damp.
Interesting.. I want my next tyres for my 2006 ford Galaxy to be best for aqua and wet handling
they are more dynamic feeling in all conditions i’ve found (Assy 6)
Bought these to go on my 86. Currently on ps4. Amazing how high inflation is if you bought for £480 8 months ago and I paid £560 today.
depends on tyre size, I can get them fitted right now for £420 on a 225/40/18.
Currently running runflats 😩
I changed from my Run Flats stock Good Year Eagle F1, just over a year ago to Michelin PS4s NRF, on my 540i...the difference is night and day, will stick with Michelins and never go back to Run Flats
Reg, I have these tyres now fitted for 2500km. Starting with the negatives, they are completely different in steering feel compared to MPSS. Very light steering almost too light I’d say, it almost felt like my car was jacked up when I drove the first meters from the tyre shop. But also came from worn down 3mm MPSS, hopefully the steering weights up a bit more and they wear. You have to get used to this first when starting to push the car. They are also quite comfortable, ridges are nicely absorbed and feel they are more polished out. Positives, loads of grip, I thing on the road with daily driving it’s very hard to push to the limit of these. Putting power down is going easily with stock power & LSD. I can floor it in the wet without DSC intervening. Car feels like on rails in the wet, strong braking as well. They look neat as well. Next time I might go for PS4 * codes ones or ND0 Porsche spec ones hopefully they have better steering feel. Cheers!
I notice now I want to drive the car In sport mode to have heavier steering feel :)
Love the detailed review - appreciate that! Glad you’re enjoying them!
@@roadreg1820 what tyre pressures are you running?
@@coenwag 33 F and 35 R (roughly)
@@roadreg1820 btw, when you had the PS4 on. Did you have the star marked ones?
Top Top !
Great review, just sub to your channel
Thanks, Ian! 😊
Take it on the track go all out
Currently running ps4 front ps5 rear on my 120d m sport (215/40/18 & 245/35/18) and all I can say is wow! Epic grip levels in dry and they give great confidence in wet conditions 👍🏻
Very nice ! Yeah they are truly epic. Enjoy man 👍😁
Camskill is cheaper than black circles and delivery is faster, too.
That’s good to know
I've got the PS5 on my Citroën C5 2.0 16v with 143HP. It never lacks any grip! ;) Wonderfull tyre with lots of grip even in the wet!
That sounds like so much fun!!
@@roadreg1820 a C5 that weights more than 1600kg with 143hp is not very fun to drive. More very comfortabele 🙃
Honestly, I've been thinking about these for my 2.0, 2006, petrol Ford Galaxy lol. It's a family wagon and I really just want something really safe in the wet. I'd need 225, 50, 17 and these seem the best for me, unless I'm overlooking some others?
@@Immortal__ you will also be fine with the Primacy 4😀
@@Bartus1989 lol probably right ! Tbh for a similar price the ps5 should be better no? I do less than 10k miles per year
not me with ps4s on my 180nm 318i lmaoooo, safe to say it's.... difficult to break traction. high power cars, low power cars, sticky tires make a world of difference
I found these tyres extremely noisy and only got worse as they got worn with a strange thrumming noise. Dry they were good but wet unfortunately not as good. They do wear better than the Pilot Sport 4 but got rid of them at 50% tread and got some Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 6 and they are definitely superior everywhere and bonus of softer riding and quieter. Very happy now.
I’m intrigued about the AS6’s. I love to try different tyres, and Goodyear are my second favourite tyre brand. I loved the Eagle F1 Supersports for feel and dry grip. Just didn’t cut it in the wet, but I need to maybe try them again.
“I trust bmw for that” - im sure bmw are grateful for your endorsement.
I’m sure they are too.
You guys in the UK don’t run winter tyres ?
Than it’s quite clear to me you don’t like the PSS (in winter condition) as the PSS is one of the greatest tyres once it’s above 15c outside and dry, but cold & wet weather is not what PSS was designed for
Tire shop I went said the best daily tire is the pilot sport 4s.
@@bradofwar5960 yes, I’d agree
But PS4S is not available in 245/35 18
@Voll Care I ditched the 18 inch rims because I didn't like them, 19 inch suits these cars better.
They don’t make it in the correct size for the M140i, that’s why I had the 4’s, then the 5’s.
Maybe for track use over a PS4S but otherwise would you go out and buy a 10+ year old phone... old tyre tech is no different.
On my s3 3 years out of them. With a few 1000 km left on them...
They’re brilliant aren’t they. I bet you have epic grip with the S3 and those PS5’s
I didn't like the PS4 at all on my tuned f22, they were replaced with Goodyear SS which are a lot better.
Interesting. The GY’s are better in the dry, and more sporty feeling. The PS4 is better for all year round, in my opinion. On a RWD car anyway!
I'm sold buying these for my f40
@@OneMadZomb1e Great decision!
Yes, it's gold standard, but I go for bitcoin (Yokohama ad09)
they just need a 5s now.
i think its been a mistake what you have paid. its £137 for front (fitted) and £183 for the backs (fitted) and i have looked everywhere even blacks..
I ordered them last spring.. prices have changed a bit. It was roughly around what I said 😁
@@roadreg1820 i found them for £550 fitted not to bad and i can say they are the best tyres i have had.
He may of bought a deal... ats have just done mine at £517
You could do with a haircut Reginald 😀
I got one 😎
@@roadreg1820 Seriously though good video thanks Reg will need to try the PS5. I still have PSS
@@davidbolton8573 Thanks Dave, appreciate it. Once your SS’s have fun out, it’s definitely time for the some PS5’s. You’re in for a treat!
Good video reg... can you comment on what tyre pressures you run for road use?
@@roysmyth4284 34psi front and 36psi rear I find works well. Tyres wear even 👍
naahhh bro too soft sidewall for me the ps4 makes the car much more nimble
Do you mean 4S?
No the conventional 4
Not sure what has happened since this video, but these tyres on black circles are almost £600, nowhere near the price you quoted.
Yeah I bought them a while ago. Everything has gone up.
Got four tyres for 664 today and that's after a 10% discount!
@@shahjaa4944 where?
The ps5 is not a performance tyre like pss or ps4s.
It gets pretty close.
Its true, but because the PSS is discontinued and the PS4S is not available in many countries in 18" (like mine, PS4S is 19" upwards) the PS5 is the only choice if you want to have a Michelin in your PSS equipped car. My brother had to do just that in his M140i. The good thing of the PS5 is that in the dry you do not lose much compared with the PSS, but you gain a lot of traction in wet conditions
I just ordered the PS5s for my A4, I hope I didn't choose badly. They were a little bit pricier than GY.
I had in my old A3 Assymetric 3 and 5 and they were nice but wanted a change.
Put these on my MX5 and they arent a patch on the 4's,really pissed off with them, absolute garbage, way less grip on the wet and dry compared to the 4's and the handling is worse, stay clear
If you own a golf R he doesn't like you 😉
Hehe. I just like to tease the Golf R community. It’s fun to have a bit of competition. Makes things exciting 😎
'Promo sm' 😣
Hu? No I paid for these myself. Literally
IS THE PS5 just as soft as the PS4 ? garbage tyre the ps4 is..
Slightly harder. The PS4 is good 👍
@@roadreg1820 i have the ps4 , never again , floats like a boat, awfull input . + are longevity , good thread life but if you want sporty drive i dislike them. Mounted on bmw 130i btw