Cleaning Up! with This Old Tony - Part 2
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- This is Part 2 of the dustpan collaboration between This Old Tony and Ron Covell.
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work of art!
Eager to see what you'll dream up for the handle. Remember, it has to be family-friendly!
Love you Tony! Help me with my MotoGP bike! I'm in Italy.
I'm ecstatic to see both of you collaborate. Thank you.
It certainly is! And if you dare ruin it’s form with an under serving handle, I’ll find where you live, gain unauthorized entry there in, and tweak the springs on all your dial indicators.
I think we can count on Tony to make it interesting!
Soap on the sandpaper... never thought of that! Thanks!!
It's inexpensive, and effective!
15:30
yep, never heard of soaping sandpaper either. Good tip to know, will have to remember!
@@RonCovell Absolutely.
you can also use old candles, thats what we used where i worked as an aprentice, works a treat
Learned two things from this video: 1. I learned more about annealing aluminum, and 2. This project might make Tony’s sense of humor even more dead-pan ;)
Tony never ceases to surprise me!
That soap trick tho.... that’s a keeper.
Dead-pan lol
@@charleshulsey3103 pretty dead-pan but he can still brush up.
"dead-pan ;)" - I see what you did there...
According to my math, this is likely the most expensive dustpan in the history of the world.
If I sold one at a reasonable shop rate, it probably would be!
And deservedly so - you’re a world class craftsman!
Thanks for the kind words!
But isn’t the real value the friends we made along the way
That's a funny one - thanks!
Ron, This is what CZcams is all about. Showing viewer HOW to make/do things. Not just open boxes. I have never hammer formed, but watching you makes me want to try this. Thank You!
Well said!
I found this by way of This Old Tony and I absolutely love the style of this and the previous video. It has a real community college instructional video vibe!
One of Tony's videos starts off spoofing a classic 60's style CC video:
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Never would have think that "making of" a dustpan will make me this excited haha. Picked a thing or two from part 1. Excellent collab. Cheers to you both!
Awesome, thank you! Part 2 will be up tomorrow morning.
Was so glad Tot turned me onto your channel! Its always amazing to watch a master at work.
Glad you enjoy it!
A “simple” project, but a TON of serious skills here! Thanks for sharing
You're very welcome!
Bar soap is great for keeping the sandpaper from galling, paraffin works very well for cutting such as drills and saw blades.
I learned a lot, thank you.
Great tip!
Paraffin wax or Paraffin Oil? I use a mix of Wax and Oil, so it makes a soft wax on my bike chain. Adding more oil again would continue to soften it. You can also add other solvents that evaporate to act as a medium to transport the solution, it will then harden ones the solvents evaporate. Turning back into the waxy/oily solution you started with
It is guys like you to give the rest of us inspiration. when I think about myself 20 30 years from now as a maker, I look up to guys like you thank you sir. Glad I found you, thanks TOT and thanks Ron for the awesome contact and I look forward to catching up on you videos!! Thanks man
Wow, thank you! When I look at myself as a maker 20 or 30 years ago, I'm so glad I made a commitment to learn as much as I could from other people. Over the past few years, CZcams has been fantastic for exposing ME to new tools and techniques!
These are exactly the words that I want to use in my comment on this video, too.
You are one of the best kinds of teacher; clear with easy to understand and see instruction!
Thank you so much! I really do enjoy passing along to others what I have learned.
Ron is like the Bob Ross of metal work.
Thanks!
Watching a true master at work is so inspiring. They should teach these skills in schools, probably, it will create more masters and there will be less violence in the world. People must use their knowledge to create not destroy. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us, your legacy lives on and, hopefully, someone will follow in your footsteps. Thanks for sharing.
I have been fortunate enough to be teaching these skills to thousands of people in person through my workshops, and literally millions through CZcams. I do hope in some small way that could lead to less violence!
the Bob Ross of sheet metal
Ron:"here's how to make a dustpan with simple tools"
I hope you liked it!
@@RonCovell He's right! Your relaxed, laid back delivery really does have a Bob Rossian air to it haha. That's great
I want you to explain everything in this universe like this.. calm, composed and patient... Art!!!
In the beginning......
And that's how we got to where we are today!
I learned quite a bit from your videos over the years. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Glad to hear it!
Amazing to watch you create something. My father's name was Tony too and he was a welder/steam pipefitter for 45 years when he finally retired. He was such a hard worker and instilled in us kids a strong work ethic. Though he was not a machinist, he could create just about anything with his incredible skills. Thanks for sharing this process with us!
Sounds like you had an excellent teacher in your father. Glad you are enjoying these videos!
Simple techniques, elegantly executed, deceptively easy looking :-)
The world's most beautiful dustpan, thankyou for sharing.
My pleasure 😊
Man! I can appreciate the talent and skill levels here. What I can't quite comprehend is how in the world does anyone have the time to give to such a project? Baffling! I must lead a very different life because I barely have enough time to use a dust pan let alone make one as beautiful as this. Once again though I appreciate the abilities required to make this.
I'm at the stage of life most people call 'semi-retired', so most days I get to choose what I do, and I love making videos for CZcams!
@@RonCovell That's awesome Ron. Sounds like a good life. Cheers!
coming from TOT's point of view, you sir are sharing some very interesting techniques. Never seen this kind of ways and works before. Awesome! So, thank you about that and take care dear sir.
Awesome, thank you!
Another great video. I'm over 65 and still learning from you. You have been so kind to share all of your knowledge with all of us. I have always appreciated your work and time and effort into sharing with us. Thank you Sir. Dan
Thanks for watching!
Came over because of ToT's recommendation and staying because of the content. How can a hammered piece of metal look that good? Wow, color me impressed.
Wow..a true master of his craft..I only hope you can find a worthy student to pass on your knowledge..Best wishes my new found friend..Thanks,Tony for sharing such a great national treasure with us..
Many thanks!
To mark the intersection cut, I'd use spray paint on water and dip the part in at the right angle then use shears to cut.
Alternatively, you could ask Tony to do one of his magic finger snaps, but that costs an arm and a kidney.
I like the paint idea. I need all the arms and kidneys I have!
Lasers. Frickin lasers.
Im just here reading the comments... amazing how connected you are to your community
Good job with everything😁👏
When people take the time to comment, I think it's only fair to give them the courtesy of a reply, or at least a 'heart'.
this old tony tricked me into coming here! but I'm glad he did ! keep up the good work great video
Welcome aboard!
I can't wait to see how the good ol' Tony mounts a regular old broom stick to this.
Well, I must admit I would be disappointed if that's the approach he takes.
HA!, he could just sets the dust pan on top of a Roomba.
16:36 "I'd like each of you to think about how you would lay out this cut."
Oh, I know what I would do. I'd bodge it up pretty badly.
You're a funny guy!
Absolutely fascinating. I started my toolmaking apprenticeship with two years at the Ford UK Apprentice Training School, but only four weeks of that was in the sheet metal shop. So I never even remotely mastered sheet metal work. I am 71 now, and still work metal and wood at home and three days a week at my local Menz Shed, and I still love the process. But what I especially love is learning new skills, and by heck I learned a trick or two watching this video.
Great to hear!
Who knew when I clicked on a new TOT video that I would get such and interesting threefer I don't do any of this work but I find it endlessly facinating so I have now subscribed to Ron's channel as well
Thanks for subscribing! I should have the next video up very shortly!
The hammered form turned out beautifully. And the annealing trick with the sharpie ink is priceless 👍
Glad you liked it!
This is custom metal fabrication at its finest, every bend is well thought out , you must have run every step in your mind so many times ,but I know that's just as much fun as actually making the part. so far I thoroughly enjoyed part one and two.
Glad you enjoyed it! And yes, before I fall asleep, I generally think about the next day's work quite a bit!
He is so skilled with the hammer that the footage seems sped up.
Well, maybe I did speed it up - just a little.
Plot twist- he actually had to slow down the hammering footage!
This is a future heirloom dustpan, truly remarkable work.
I appreciate your watching, and commenting!
Love the way you manage to do beautiful work with simple tools. Never thought of using ink as a temp indicator or of using soap to keep the sandpaper from loading up. Many thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
So much expertise in your craftsmanship. From your tips on annealing to using different sized tape to get to the offset you want. Then you're putting soap on sandpaper. You're explanations of why you do what you're doing helps to understand the process. Thank you for teaching me. Also, I would tilt the pan in the outside form and clamp it at the desired angle. Score it and then cut it with snips.
I'm so glad you are enjoying this. Your idea for marking the edge for cutting is excellent. I'll use a somewhat modified version of your description.
Right on brother!
Who would have thought a simple looking dustpan would be so fascinating
I saw the gap with the pin during the reverse-transfer punch and wondered what you were going to do about it, but then later it was TIG'd back up and blended nicely. A sign of a master craftsman- not just getting it perfect all the time, but easily fixing simple errors through experience.
Hey - we aim to please!
What a craftsman. Breathtaking skills.
Thanks so much for the high praise!
You two are a pair on par for us to enjoy craftsmanship!
Thanks - I am having a blast with this project, and Tony is diving into making the handle right now!
This is an excellent way of getting the new school interested in the old school. I bought a gaggle of tools from you almost 20 years ago, a bunch of videos (on VHS and I don't have a VCR hooked up anymore), and a bunch of your columns. I read and watched and tried a few things. I haven't had the need to do any sheet metal work in a while, but what I learned from your content has stuck with me over the years.
That is awesome!
I'm sure most peeps already knew this, but using different width masking tape to offset a line is brilliant!!! Thanks Ron for being such a wonderful teacher!!
Glad you are enjoying my videos!
Came for the Old Tony "collaboration" stayed for the great content!
I'm glad you stayed!
Me too!
Brought here by This Old Tony and have already learned a ton. You've got a new subscriber. Can't wait to see how you finish this off! Thanks for sharing!
Welcome aboard! I'll be uploading the last video in the series very soon!
Glad to see you making more content Ron.
Thanks - more on the way!
Just came across this; liked and subscribed.
The content just oozes experience and understanding; everything is done with the cadence of "I've done this hundreds of times at this point."
So glad you found my channel, and like my videos! More to come, I promise.
Wonderful job Ron ! thanks for sharing .
Thanks for watching!
love this project the fact that its a colab with this old tony is why im here watching. looking forward to the next video
The next video should be fun!
I have one of your old dvd's and i learned how to anneal aluminium but since i don't have oxy/ace at home i had no way of knowing the temp with my lpg torch but thanks to Ron again i have another diy way of knowing the temp when annealing. Yor work is amazing Ron
Great to hear!
The amount of talent that is needed for this is awe inspiring. I am enjoying watching this come together.
I'm so glad you are enjoying it!
Ron...you are a very clever man ! thank you for the videos
I'm very glad you enjoy the videos!
@@RonCovell thank you ron , tomorrow im going to start fabbing an ally seat for my new Fuel altered drag car I'm building, i can see how i can use some of these ideas already !, thanks again and have a great day
Excellent demonstration, thanks Ron.
Glad you enjoyed it
Awaiting patiently 😃
The new video will launch about this time tomorrow (Saturday). Hope you like it!
Me too I got all excited thinking this was it........
Learning so much already! I can't wait to try these techniques in my garage.
You can do it!
I am a machinist and sent these videos to a couple engineer friends. They are in awe of the skill but also in anguish because the dustpan wasn't designed parametrically. Few things tickle me more than torturing my engineer friends with off-the-cuff fabrication that doesn't start in CAM software (and would actually be misleadingly difficult to CAD in the first place), but all I am doing is showing them the shoulders they are standing on :)
Well, everyone has their own way to get stuff done!
Wowsers. I feel like every single thing I do is a sloppy shortcut and you are doing it the right way. Crazy nice work.
Maybe you will be inspired to refine your skills in the future!
@@RonCovell for sure. If yer not learnin', yer dying.
This an excellent example of dedication and skill, while at the same time, attempting to explain it so that "anyone" can do it. Awesome!!
Wow, thank you!
I have great respect for both Ron Covell and This Old Tony, they are both truly expert craftsmen. With that said, I cannot possibly understand why anyone would spend this amount of time, energy and resources including the tools used and the cost of the materials that were used, to hand fabricate a DUST PAN! My God, that aluminum is 10-12 dollars a square foot, and MDF plywood is perhaps the MOST expensive plywood that you can buy!
I understand that this was an exercise in forming metal for useful purposes... but make something sensible at least. Maybe a motorcycle fender or a glove box door for your Rolls Royce or an air intake for an antique race car!
I can make a dustpan out of an old rusty cake pan and a broom stick!
Pee Jay - thanks for your well-founded comments. Maybe I should just say that this is, in fact, a glove box door for a vintage Aston Martin, and we're just calling it a dust pan here for fun (smile)!
Absolutely perfect narration!
I’ve done my fair share of hammer forming (wing rib flanges, and similar), I’m self taught and was really happy to see we do it the same way even with the pins, and caulking tools.
Thank you so much!
I didn't know that trick with the sharpie and annealing sheet Al. Great information!
Glad it was helpful!
There is just so much knowledge in this series of videos. I feel like I'll be watching this 2 or 3 times just to let some of this sink in! Brilliant, thank you very much!
I'm so glad you are enjoying this project. I'll be uploading the last video in the series very shortly.
Как хорошо что Вы делитесь такими видео с нами, огромное Вам за это спасибо!!!
Удовольствие мое!
I've learned so many things from this (and the previous) video that I will probably never need but am really happy to know about. Thank you!
I'm so glad!
If my dustpan looked this nice my floor would be covered in junk because I wouldn't want to use it.
Well, you could have one 'show' dustpan for special dust, and a 'beater' dustpan for everyday use.
A work of art, indeed.
If i put as much effort into an whole year of my life, as this man has put into making a dustpan, i swear i would be a 100 times more successful.
Hmmm - maybe so?
I'm really enjoying your craftsmanship!
Thank you very much!
I've always used bees wax for sanding lubricant, I tried the bar soap trick and was impressed, we now have bars of dial in the fab shop, thanks!
I have used beeswax too, and I thought it worked well, although it's a little more 'gummy' than bar soap. Many soap bars are perfumed, and I don't like the smell, so I look for soap with as little scent as possible.
I think the “2% This Old Tony” was a little generous but still a solid 7% entertaining.
All kidding aside, metal forming is so satisfying to watch especially when it’s done well.
I'm glad you are enjoying it! I just got a 'sneak peek', and Tony's handle will be spectacular!
So impressed how you do a kneeling process while standing.
HAH! You're a jokester, just like Tony!
You need 2 pans!
Old trick my grandfather showed me. Use 2 pans opposite each other to pinch ( or scoop) and pick up the debris pile, like an clam bucket from a stem shovel. If you have light or fluffy debris, one can be used to cover the debris in the other while transfering. With a little practice youll see.
Quicker and easier than trying to broom in the pile on to the pan in any amount of debris.
To this day I dont know why they are not sold in sets!
Steven Columbus Michigan
Yes your pan build is a labor of love and a real show boat. Too nice to use now but you need 2 of them! !🤣 This Old Tony rocks also!
Using two pans, and scooping them together makes a lot of sense!
You also forgot to add the instruction to 'how to use' for This Old Tony'! 🤣🤣🤣
Ps from start to finish about how long did it take to make the project? You made it look soooooooo easy!🤔 like Tubalcain states "you too can make this $0.50 part but youll need $10k worth of equipment" oh ya the time and the knowledge tool box to get the job done!
Great instructional video loved it! 🤜🤛
Love the annealing trick!
Thanks Ron
Steven Columbus Michigan
Amazing videos. Thank you very much for all your time spent making them for us to watch and learn. Greetings from Sweden
My pleasure!
Everything about the video and the process is great, but man, watching you put down tape, you are a master. going around those curves like it's nothing, impressive.
Just to be sure we're on the same page, I speed up the action in my videos as much as I can, so much of the tape application was done at 4x or 6x actual speed.
@@RonCovell hahahaha oh I know it's sped up, but even at a slower speed you're doing it faster than I ever could, I'd be taking off, doing it again, and again, then still probably again.
How have I not found this channel till now? Got something new to binge😁
Hey, welcome on board!
Metal forming seems like a lost art. Very methodical and the instruction is very well done making the process easy to follow. Thank you for making these videos!
Glad you are enjoying the videos!
Who knew that fabricating a dustpan could be so interesting? Ron your process description is perfect!
I would make a 2-part form to expose portion to be removed the Mark the cut, remove from the form and cut with aircraft shears.
I'm very glad that you like the video, and took the time to comment! Your plan for marking the curved cut would work well. I'll use a different process, as you'll see in a few weeks.
Wow. I learned so much from watching this. It’s amazing to see how many different ways there are to make things.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice work! Ron, thank you for the very useful tips, especially about annealing aluminum. Stay well and keep on chooching!
Thanks, you too!
This is incredible!! Usually I feel like I see things on CZcams I could never do! I think I could! Also! I think I will!!
Lots of great lessons...thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great. Now I get to stare at this in the top of my subscription page for the next two days while I can't watch it. :/
One more day!
Haha me too....
Thanks for sharing your skills. Very impressive craftsmanship and knowledge.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nasa is looking for a dustpan just like this one 😉
Seriously, fantastic work!
Thank you very much!
I'm so impressed, can you imagine being given this task as some form of craftsman exam. so difficult, so many places to go wrong.
Had to pass one of these exam`s to become " Master Of Craftmanship " - Handwerksmeister Maschinenbau. Had to make a bicycle ...
Well, I suppose the only way I got skillful with metal was by making every mistake possible, but I learned from each one!
Ron, this is a wonderfully enjoyable project and I've really enjoyed following the work and learning such a tremendous amount. Your skills are simply off-the-hook brilliant. Thanks for sharing this!
I'm so glad you are enjoying it. Should have the last video in this series up before too long!
Amazing work Ron, it's so interesting to see all the different stages of how this is done, it's fascinating to watch such a skilled craftsman, I repair car body panels with a technique called Paintless Dent Removal, and people think my channel has some interesting techniques on metalworking but your skills are on another level, it would be great to see more of these fabrication videos and collaborations with amazing machinists like "This Old Tony" who I also follow. All the best to you guys, can't wait to see how you are going to make that cut! 👍
Thanks for the wonderful compliments! I have watched some people do PDR, both in person and online, and I consider that an amazing skill, indeed!
You can also substitute your bar soap for your permanent marker for annealing. Rub it on cold. When the residue turns black its at the correct temperature. 👍
Good tip - thanks!
As allways, outstanding craftsmanship! Thanks Ron
Thanks for watching!
awesome, love seeing this come together, especially as an office worker who most of the time has no idea why you're doing certain things until you explain them. subbed. PS TOT sent me here and he was right to do so.
Glad you are enjoying it!
Amazing work. You make a surprisingly complex task seem straight forward and approachable.
Thank you very much. My goal is to show that many people can do this work, even with fairly simple tools.
I love this man but sometimes i zone out and forget im not watching a woodworking channel
Wood - metal - it's all good!
This guy is such an awesome teacher!!
Thank you so much!
Excellent, just excellent!!
So glad you enjoyed it!
I can already see all the dust bin industry shaking in fear of loosing so much money when everybody starts to make their own dust bins.
I suppose it's just a matter of time until I start receiving the threatening letters coming from lawyers and unions!
@@RonCovell If you get threatening letters from lawners and onions then that should concern you.
Fascinating stuff and I think I've picked up a couple of tips :) BTW, thanks for including metric measurements too.
Glad you liked it, and I fully understand that nearly all of the world is metric. Since I have lived in the US all my life, the 'Imperial' system is all I've known, but I'm trying to get better versed in the Metric system.
@@RonCovell Thank you again for doing it, it really is appreciated.
Thanks Ron, I am in 🇦🇺 Oz, so metric mostly. I am ok with imperial units though. Thanks again
This is so cool! Thanks Ron. Can’t wait for part 3. 👍👍😎👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ron sir, keep making videos. I really enjoy and you gave really important tips in fabrication before that I don't know how to check the annealing temperature of aluminium. Love your work. I wish I could be your student once in a life 🙏🏽. Thank you sir.
Cool, thanks!
Excellent video thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks Ron and Old Tony, I have never done any metal shaping projects. I might just give this one a go. Keep up the good work. Cheers Ryan
You should!
Agree, just working out a list of supplies that I need to get from the hardware store
Ron Covell dust pan
Part 1
1/4” wide masking tape for curves
1/4” wide steel bar (6mm diameter)
3/4” MDF (19mm) for bending bar stock
1/2” (12mm) ply wood x 4 = 2” (51mm) thick
Tubing to take a pencil, weld to flat bar.
Yellow wood glue
Sanding drum for a drill. About 2” diameter x 3”
Part 2
Push pins
1/2” masking tape
3003 H14 alloy sheet. 1/16” or 1.6mm thick
Jigsaw with wood cutting blade
Propane torch
Large tipped sharpie marker for annealing process
Plastic mallet with rounded nose
Steel body hammer with medium crown face
Steel body hammer with a low crown face
Scrap of 3/4” (19mm) mdf as big as dust pan for clamping block
1/8” or 3mm masking tape
Something to use as a caulking tool for the top edge
Pneumatic random orbital sander/disc sander
120 grit disc paper
Excellent list - I hope this project goes well for you!