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How to build an Invert Roller speargun PART 2.5 - ACCURACY and POWER
Following your questions about accuracy and power,wWe decided to add a short video (part 2.5) to show you the accuracy of this particular build.
Stay tuned for Part III where we take the gun to Greece for some Mediterranean waters action.
Stay tuned for Part III where we take the gun to Greece for some Mediterranean waters action.
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How to build an Invert Roller Speargun (vela) - Part II
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Sorry, this is a long one. We will walk you through the build process step by step. Please make sure to check out Part I , as it contains a few useful tips .
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My latest Speargun build: the Dentex slayer! In This Video I explain the basics of how an inverted roller speargun works and its advantages. many of you may know this speargun system as VELA system.
Is it really a tube of the company YUCHUANG ??
I want to know the diameter of the dyneema to use to mount the speargun As well as the diameter of the arrow used Please
Thank you so much for the information
How do you get the dyneema through the inserts. I got one done but the next just keeps fraying and won’t enter the dang hole.
@@Chris-ok9hr can you ping me a picture? Ramiro.villanueva@hotmail.com
What brand cuttlefish barrel is that? It's so hard to find a clean looking one - thanks
Hi, yes everybody is asking for this, the reality is that we are getting them done in bulk by a company on Spain. they dont retail to the end user market unfortunately. I suspect they use the same facilities as Carbontek in canary islands , they look very similar, but the ones I order are carbon plugged
Where part 3?
Hi did you plug the carbon barrel or just rely on the orings?
@@pete8952 I buy these barrels directly from the supplier and request them to be “plugged” from factory (resin and carbon) so no plug needed, and even if the prongs fail, no biggie, as only a few ml of water would go in
@@dustsnow666 Thanks for the reply, do you mind sharing where you buy the barrels from?
Hello Friend ...IS there any spécifique reason that your string on réel coming from down?? Thanks , have a fun!!
@@orcaazur06 hey mate, thank you for the question. Yes, it’s on purpose. I like free spooling reels to be quite tight, so I rig them to feed in a more direct line, so they “unlock” quick and easy. I had a few Hermes Reels get stuck on me
@@dustsnow666 ok. Never tryed from that perspectives thanks f your response . .. I use ermes also.. with 70m rope on réel. 🤙
@@orcaazur06 theyre awesome, but they neeed to be rinsed with fresh water after use, otherwise they can get sticky. especially the smaller sizes
@@dustsnow666 the reel and the entire equipment.
Hello. What Inside Diameter barrel and barrel offset you used for that Ermes Avatar handle?
26mm inside offset 2.6
Hello, thank you a million for your videos! I will start to build 2 same spearguns. Would you recommend the same setup for a 130cm gun in terms of carbon shaft? Do you by any chance have the links of the parts you have used? Thanks a lot in advance and safe spearfishing!
Hiya!, I personally dont see the point in going over 120cm for an inverted, the power and accuracy gains over that are negligible in my opinion. maybe worth creating a 140cm monster cannon if you do blue water stuff and planning on hitting tuna and doggies... but for 99% of situations, id say 110cm barrel MAX. Im trying to put in a list of materials from a retailer, as the supplies we buy are in bulk unfortunately.
@@dustsnow666 Thank you very much for your help and tips! Will build a 90cm and 110cm barrel :)
Thank you for the vid. What is your barrel offset - 2.5mm, or 2.8mm?
2.6!!
Great, informative series. What band setup would you suggest for 8mm slip tip for dogtooth? I also notice that you like a short overhang. I normally use 40cm longer shaft than barrel on traditional rollers...?
Heeey buddy! Thanks for the comments. I never use more than 10 or 15 cm on an invert, as it defeats the purpose IMO. If you want more punch use a thicker shaft, which I suspect you are using if a slip-tip is fitted. When I hunt in very dynamic environments I trend to use a shaft so short that the flipper is kept tugged in by the shooting line over the muzzle. On the other hand on open water I trend to go a bit longer, just came back from Sicily and was using a 15cm overhang (7mm) shaft. Stay safe
Thank you :)
Where can I find a list of materials you used in the video?
Ali express has carbon fiber speargun barrels that look identical to what he has and he names the manufacturer of every other major item required so they should be easy to find
Thanks for the video.🤙 Its been helpful. Lookin' for Nano tape. seems to be double-sided. 🫤.
very nice... wish i watched this 3 years ago...
Ciao mi potresti far vedere come fai i giri di sagola, per bloccare l'asta alla testata grazie
Hi Valentino, please watch the "How to Build your invert Roller" video series, I explain it there. thanks for watching
hello! Where did you buy this carbon tube?
Thank you Sir for a clear illustration. I hope I can make it in my own spear gun.
What barrel exterior width and offset are you using here?
quick question, if you remove the handle, will that gun fit in the check in suitcase? i want to have an invert roller for travel but may not be possible..idk..thansk
Hi Mate, the defining factor for lenght is always the shaft, not the speargun. the shaft is always longer than the gun. so you need to buy a specialized shaft that can be split (Roffe Euro Traveler for example), look it up. taking off the handle and re-fitting too many times can damage the orrings, resulting in leaks, i would only do it for maintenance, ballasting or in special occasions safe hunting Ramsey
Thank you
Hi sir,nice job.how do you calculate the rubbers stretching ratio on the same speargun tipe but 110 cm ???thanks in advance 😊
drop me an email to ramiro.villanueva@hotmail.com merry Xmas
Thanks for sharing, very well done and inforative. I like the inverted setup as you can power your shot to suit on the fly.
Cheers Neil, yeah nowadays I struggle to find scenarios where an Invert is not superior... hole hunting being one of them
15g or 50g ?? front weight
40!
@@dustsnow666 40...? I have same muzzle and barrel 850mm, and ermes handle. how many weight do i put inside of front..? still 40g?
same barrels (cuttle fish 850mm)
In video, you said 50
hello! please tell me! where do you buy carbon tubes?
Aliexpress tube??
no, carbontek
i was not courageous enough to buy them . if u did gie us a review
i wish i have that speargun someday
Thank you for your "How to" series! Since I have a couple of carbon tubes, you inspired me to build an inverted roller. I understand that the 90cm is a bit underpowered(to your partner's needs), but I would like to know what setup (type of rubber & shaft size - width & length) you have on the 110cm one. I'm in QLD, targeting reef species & mid-sized pelagics.
Mi Hate, hit them hard! for a 110 I use a 125 7mm carbon steel shaft, or 7.5mm if you wanna use stainless. 3x pairs of Small ID 16mm rubbers will give you plenty of punch. if you wanna go krazy use 20mm small ID for the primary rubbers (only the 1st pair). see if you can source SigalSub small ID rubber
@@dustsnow666 Thanks for your reply! I realised that some of the answers I was looking for you already mentioned in another video's comments, but this above is more specific. I ordered a Sigalsub Stainless 130cm / 7.5mm double flopper shaft, 1 pair of Sigal reactive evo at 19mm and 2 pairs of Sigal extreme at 14.5mm. I'll work out the total length of the gun when everything is in place.
@@dustsnow666 Have you done any ballasting work on this gun? I'm considering using auto wheel weights inside the tube and adjusting it's balance this way.
The best video by far on this platform on how to build Roller Speargun. Appreciated much Sire
thank you !.
Great video...can you tell us where to buy carbon body?
Looks like chinese barrel from AliExpress
What rabl and shaft in this speargun
rabl?
@@dustsnow666 rubber
what the diameter of arrow and bungee cord
6.5mm spear. rubbers are 16mm for primary and 14mm for the two others
@@dustsnow666 thanks
Where can I buy the barrel?
Hi, Which Carbon barrel is it?
He might not want to say
This looks like ermes avatar cuttlefish barell
Very cool, thank you for posting this video! Where is the parts list? I didnt see it....
Mantaaabbb,, greting from indinesia
Can you make a video of putting a reel on it
I can post a video of the 110, which has a reel installed. I recommend the MVD free spooling reel for this handle. cheap and sturdy
What pulley blocks would you generally use on a 1m gun?
Power (load) is more important than length. end of the day you can rig 4x pairs of 18mm bands on a 90 cm invert roller if you are crazy enough! ha ha! Generally speaking if you are using 14mm bands you can get away with using kitesurfing glass loaded plastic pulleys like the ones from MVD. But if you start playing with 3 pairs of 16mm bands I would recommend Harkey 16mm block pulleys. or Tintanall invert roller pulleys
Good presentation! Just one comment. I think the rope is wrongly winded in your real. It should be unwinding from the top of it, close to the speargun body, not from the bottom.
Thank you, yes I know, but it works better this way to load both sets of rubbers at the bottom. you have more space
Share lists of material used, please.
The best video on hiw to rig invert speargun ever! Thanks you! I have MVD muzle and salvimar metal handle invert and according your video I am going to rebuild it.
Give it a go!, ping me an email if you need help
Im planning to do same, can you use wood body with standard handle :/ and from where did you get barrel
Ahoy!. I wouldnt use the Ermes handle with a wood body, the handle is too narrow and you will have problems with the pre-tensioned rubbers running freely!
@@dustsnow666 thank you :) and from where did you get this cf tube? I have all parts from mvd
Hi, accuracy is amazing and this speargun shoots very nice. 🤙👍
indeed, very precise guns. Invert rollers also allow you to use a shorter gun,, which is super nice for tracking fast fish
Hey there nice .barrel is from?,thanks.
soriatec makes an excact one and ermes too@@cusycanca
We have decided to add a Part 2.5 to this series: TARGET PRACTICE! before taking it to Greece for some ground testing.
We have decided to add a Part 2.5 to this series: TARGET PRACTICE! before taking it to Greece for some ground testing.
Waiting for part 3 Nice job
Thank you! Sorry for the late response, We just came back from Madeira with some footage, but we have another trip to Rhodes in 3 weeks so I will put something together after that. Thanks for watching .
Just posted an accuracy test video of this Gun!
Nice one!
Hi there from Australia, I’m in the middle of building an inverted 100cm roller and your videos you have posted have just come out in the perfect time for me as they have helped a lot. I have a question if you wouldn’t mind, 😊, do you think 3 sets of rubbers, 2 sets at 16mm and 1 set at 14mm would be too much power for a 7mm spear. I’ve been advised to drop it down to 2 sets of 16mm or go up to a 7.5mm spear?
Most important, where can we get the carbon barrel????
@@alfadanhighperformanceoutb8416. Drop me a line to Ramiro.villanueva@hotmail.com thanks for watching
Hi hi, thanks for watching. I would need to know what specifically you are targeting but I would go as follows for a 100: 1x set of 16mm for the Primary (pre-tensioned) rubbers, plus 2x sets of 14 (small ID), This will drive very accurately a 7mm short overhang shaft. OR 3x sets of 16mm standard ID rubbers to drive a 7.5mm shaft. This setup is a bloody lightning bolt and is what I use in my 110 builds. Piece of advise. Try to source very stiff hardened carbon steel shaft for this application. Shaft wobble can be solved also with a stiffer shaft, instead of an increase of diameter and weight. Picasso Gold carbon steel shaft es are in my opinion the best in the market. Thanks for watching
Sorry, I forgot to add, the advantage of 3x stages (pairs of rubbers) is that you can fine tune the power on the go if needed. Just take off one pair off, if there is a risk of hitting rocks. Or drop 2x pairs for a hole shot
Thank you for your reply, really appreciate it. Look forward to more of your videos
Hi, thank you very much for your time , and clearly explaining to us, how to set inverted spearguns up ! Very useful! A question in terms of accuracy, are the inverted guns as good as the power they provide ? Again thanks for sharing.
Sorry for the delay, we were in Madeira fishing!, In terms of accuracy, there is a LOT of debate Out there so I will speak from anecdotal experience here. I don’t think I will ever go back to a traditional setup for clear waters. The low recoil and accuracy of the invert roller has no match for long distance shots. Make sure you use a proper spear circa 7mm or above. For thus particular gun we are using a 6.7mm spear because it’s only a 90cm barrel. If your spear is too thin or soft; it will wobble and loose both power and accuracy. Reports of bad accuracy with rollers and specially invert rollers are related to overpowered things shafts in most cases. FYI, for winter fishing or low visibility, I use a traditional roller. It doesn’t make much sense to use an invert in those conditions unless you are shooting huge fish. We are reef hunters mainly. Thanks for watching
@dustsnow666 Thanks a lot for your reply, I will definitely give inverted spearguns a try. Especially for blue water hunting. The components I already have them, and in case I don't like it, I can always convert this speargun back to a 3 band gun. Again, thanks for sharing the inverted spearguns secrets 🤙🤘👍
@@arysandrodossantos9300 I guarantee, if you set it properly, you will never go back to a 3 band standard setup. Send me an email if you want to discuss further or we can do a WhatsApp call before you embark in the build mate
@dustsnow666 Thanks a lot. I will send you an email 🤘🤙👍
I have just posted an accuracy test video. Of this very gun!