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Mis-understand, or intentionally mis representing? The story discussed, appears to be an attempt at spreading FUD 100% Good job on exposing it!.

Not being an engineer you did not address the most important criteria for making a good choice. The quality of Tesla's engineering is second to none. The best example of this is the heating and cooling functions which are essential to trouble free driving with best performance. Like all the OEMS Hyundai does very poorly. There are THREE radiators, and numerous duplication of function for battery, motor and cabin heating/cooling. The faster charging is negated by battery heat and cold gating on longer trips. Not to mention that Tesla charging system is second to none and Hyundai have none. Always look to engineers' reviews before making a choice! czcams.com/video/01lWmPi4cTk/video.html

Good review.

Really? You gave the win for performance to Hyundai based on a model they don't offer yet? That's not very smart or fair. Also, you should have mentioned the price of that N model ...is many thousands of dollars more than the Tesla model Y performance.

Model Y is the better EV but the Ioniq 5 looks so much better I wouldn't have to think twice which one to choose. I wish Hyundai would bring a compact car with a design like this.

Only Tesla and Hyundai/Kia will survive in EV cars!!

Maybe the Kia Ev9 is better, anyway good show 😊👍

Lmao this was a sweep for the Y. Tied for tech? Lmao really? OTA updates slaps the Hyundai and every other vehicle in the market. Performance? On a car that’s not even other yet? Whole the current models are getting destroyed by the Y. What a stretch. Charging speed really? You really believe the Ioniq 5 will consistently get those charging speeds. The only people who get the ioniq prefers the aesthetics then that’s ok. But I’m sure ppl buy the Hyundai to virtue signal and feel special looking different. While driving an inferior car in every way possible. While owning an iPhone 🤣 Thank you for the very well made video and all your time spent. But this was a sweep.

Both cars are great EVs but the reality is when talking price there’s no comparison. For Tesla, the price is what you are going to pay once you put the $250 reservation on the website. For the Ioniq 5, you have to factor in the pain of battling with a dealership experience that will literally add hundreds if not thousands to the price of the car. When showing this chart why not compare the out the door price of both cars. Tesla is the clear winner. Having dealt with the dealership experience all my life, buying a Tesla was refreshing. Buying a preowned Ioniq 5 from an individual or (maybe CARMAX) would be the only way to go to get the car at a reasonable price.

How can you give the Ionic a win in the performance category if the car does not yet exist? How do you know the refreshed Model Y will not blow it's doors off? Maybe it won't but you cannot assume a car that does not yet exist will win.

Tesla can add all this stupid hyanda tech in one over the air software update.. Tesla is a tech company…. Tech is unmatched!!!!

Ioniq interior feels very cheap. Almost like an EV version of Elantra

Starnge you credit the not yet available Ioniq 5 N but not credit the not yet available USA built one. You really should always review what is available in terms of scoring, with explainations or updates as needed.

Meh… The model y juniper refresh will be out in a year or so. Buying now, you’ll be buying just in time to have the old version of the Model Y. Leasing or waiting might be best if you don’t want the old version or just wanna get your feet wet in the EV market.

This doesn't take into consideration maintenance costs, changing tires, tesla dropping prices enormously on new vehicles at they've done, etc. Leasing is way more cost effective when you take the reality of car ownership in its totality into the mix. Plus, you have a completely new car at the end of your lease rather than an aged car

should not have considered the N until it is available. Disappointed you did.

Go ahead and take a chance on Hyundai electronics and interface, Tesla is top of the line, maybe in 5 years.

Bla bla bla it’s a piece of sh*t!

Nice comparison. I like both, but would at this point still get the Ioniq. With the upcoming refresh of both cars, it will be interesting to see how they compare at that point.

If we’re going to talk about 2025s, we should talk about the Model Y Juniper, too. Plus there’s supposedly a range boost software update coming for some RWD Model Ys (for a fee, of course.)

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Agreed, we went with the AWD for the more premium situation

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Why is Tesla still using 4680 batters??? the weight is the problem with stile of BATTERY?????

If Tesla discontinues 4680 production, its suppliers will increase their prices. The suppliers will see increased demand and no competition from Tesla. Tesla production is acting as a spur to keep the supplier prices down.

This calculation are not accurate no dealer or Tesla will give kbb value at all so stop misleading people not worth buying Tesla lowers the price of new vehicle every other month is the only car company that can change msrp multiple times in a year therefore you can’t trust nor calculate your real vehicle value I rather lease if price drops you walk out no question ask

The insurance costs on new cars will eat any fuel savings you might think you would have with a Tesla…. And any other new EV 🤷‍♂️

You are using depeciation amounts that are not correct. The actual depreciation is closer to 40% and not the projected 23% used in this calculation. Doubt this? Try to sell it after 3 years and find out. If you lease, simply give them the keys and walk away.

Thanks for doing the math for us 🫱🏽‍🫲🏻

.99 last month also gave you 4% arbitrage with high yield savings accounts.

The real advantage to leasing is the unknown future value of the car. The EV used market is in its infancy and the technology is changing rapidly. The lease is based upon a residual value that is extremely difficult to predict, as is Tesla’s pricing. Just ask the guy that spent $500 for the dark wheels 2 weeks ago that are now standard issue. I appreciate the research and mathematics you put together but the future value of used EVs is still uncertain.

Leasing was never meant to be the better financial option, you can't pay less each month and come out ahead? The interesting question that arises now, is, who's going to want to buy your used model Y when everyone can just pay for robotaxis everywhere? I think this is the biggest risk of buying a car right now.

Interest and depreciation are much greater than leasing.

I want to point out that i dont think anecdotal loss of range comments are useful due to BMS wander (especially for LFP). The most accurate way to see your degradation without additional tools/apps is to discharge to 0-5% then immediately charge (ideally the fastest level 2 speed you can get) to 100%, then allow the car to sit at 100% for a couple hours. I doubt people are doing this when quoting their degradation numbers. The internal tool in service mode essentially does this, but i doubt people use the degradation test within service mode either...

Depending on your area and market will determine whether purchasing or leasing is better. No one is buying used EV's in my market. Leasing is the way to go.

If you make to much and don’t qualify for the 7500 dollar credit, you still qualify under the lease. It’s not a better deal.

Thank you, you are 100 pct right. The.. 99 and 1.99 financing did not find its way into the lease. Also the lack of a guaranteed end of lease buyout or any buyout is a non-starter. What if car prices are really high when lease is up? You are forced to start anew rather than keep your car? What if you have gone over your allowed miles or have some body damage that you might "leave alone" if it was your car? Tesla will charge you. If theres a buyout you just vuy it instead of pour more money into their coiffures.

Excellent coverage of all the items that must be included in the calculation.

The avg difference between a lease and loan is $200/mo. If you were to lease and save $200/mo for 72 mos you would have $14.400 without any interest compounded in. You would be driving a new car in the last 3 years with new tires and no out of pocket expenses for repairs. How does this sound?

This aged like milk.

Very nice but really Concerned that it could not run a saw… that is not something I would do but it should have handled that with no problem.

You're giving me a headache😅😅

Applies to USA. Other countries get no tax credit. I had a M3P for 4.5 years depreciation per year much more than my new lease is going to cost. I get a new car every 2 years under a lease. No hassle when it finishes. Peace of mind.

You can’t count on the model y not being discounted to oblivion in the next 3 years. You better off leasing if you know you want to get a new model. The savings in this video go away the moment the price is discounted

I would never recommend leasing a model Y. You will love it and put way too many miles on it. 😂

And the buy numbers were much better last month with 0.99% loan rates, which is why I ordered a Model Y eight days ago. Had to get a blue car with white seats, but my five year lease payments will be just a few dollars more than the six year loan payments he uses, so basically saving a year of payments.

Leasing an ev right now can be a great idea. If EVs continue to tank, if the value of your car is 10k less than the lease shows, you just hand them the keys.

Sorry, Not everyone has money to buy a Tesla and pay $900 a month. Totally off base

If tesla wants you to....... DON'T !!!. In the words of the famous..........."let that be a lesson to you"........... right Elon ?.

I own 2021 m3 lfp battery, initially it was 424km now on 100% it shows 398km, almost 7% loss