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Now the fun begins!
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The trailer has finally arrived so I can put all this stuff in it and send it on it's way! Main battery cables were too short so had to put in a junction box with room for buss bars. You simply don't use butt connectors with that much juice flowing. Next up will be the first time firing it up in it forever home. Feel free to ask any questions in the comments section below. Any cells you see on ...
How to get the JK inverter BMS to talk to your 6000XP
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A quick video to show how I connected my new JK inverter BMS to the EG4 6000XP. Feel free to ask any questions in the comments section below. Any cells you see on this channel, unless otherwise mentioned, can be purchased from Amy Zheng from Docan Power. For best service and best price send her an email at amy@docanpower.com and mention this channel (Yes, I'm an affiliate and may make a dollar ...
BMS Upgrade. We have CAN!
zhlédnutí 100Před 4 měsíci
While I love the new JK BMS, what could be better? 2 JK BMSs! With closed loop communication with the Inverter and parallel capability! Feel free to ask any questions in the comments section below. Any cells you see on this channel, unless otherwise mentioned, can be purchased from Amy Zheng from Docan Power. For best service and best price send her an email at amy@docanpower.com and mention th...
I changed it.... again! JK rules!
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Feel free to ask any questions in the comments section below. Any cells you see on this channel, unless otherwise mentioned, can be purchased from Amy Zheng from Docan Power. For best service and best price send her an email at amy@docanpower.com and mention this channel (Yes, I'm an affiliate and may make a dollar or 2 from the sale). I buy my cells from Amy exclusively (well 99% of the time a...
6000XP 28.4 KW system overview
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The 6000XP has been up and running for a couple weeks now. Overhead on this unit is about 1/3 of the 6000EX it replaced. Quieter as well. Setup was very simple. Unit is about 3/4 the weight of the 6000EX. Affiliate links below for @CurrentConnected Always great customer service. Never an issue! 6000XP@CurrentConnected www.currentconnected.com/product/eg4-6000xp-inverter/?ref=nobsbatteries Or if...
A peak under the hood...
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Feel free to ask any questions in the comments section below. Any cells you see on this channel, unless otherwise mentioned, can be purchased from Amy Zheng from Docan Power. For best service and best price send her an email at amy@docanpower.com and mention this channel (Yes, I'm an affiliate and may make a dollar or 2 from the sale). I buy my cells from Amy exclusively (well 99% of the time a...
EG4 6000XP unboxing! Out with the old and in with the new.
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Finally available so we decided to switch out the #6000ex for the new #6000XP before mounting everything. Unit was ordered from Current Connected. I have been buying my BMS's from them for years and have always had great service. This is just an unboxing. There will be future videos that include a side by side comparison of size, weight, and that sort of thing. There will also be a setting it u...
Full system testing has commenced
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The system is complete and being bench tested before it's installed in the camper. I'm now running the entire shop on it. Getting the software that will display and control it all is being configured. So far it's working quite well. Feel free to ask any questions in the comments section below. Any cells you see on this channel, unless otherwise mentioned, can be purchased from Amy Zheng from Do...
It lives!
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I have the basic system connected and am cycling the cells as best I can for now. Everything seems to be working as expected. Yes, I know it's a mess. Don't worry, it won't be when I'm done. Feel free to ask any questions in the comments section below. Any cells you see on this channel, unless otherwise mentioned, can be purchased from Amy Zheng from Docan Power. For best service and best price...
The Panels!
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Made a quick and dirty rack to keep the used panels off the ground. Will end up with 8 used 340 watt Q-Cells in series. Have to fit them all on top of a 7X14 trailer. This should be interesting... Feel free to ask any questions in the comments section below. Any cells you see on this channel, unless otherwise mentioned, can be purchased from Amy Zheng from Docan Power. For best service and best...
MC-1 The beginning!
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The beginning of the system that will power a 7X14 enclosed trailer to Overland camper conversion. It will end up being a 48 volt 560 ah pack. The equivalent of almost 6 "server rack batteries". Don't forget to mash the like button and subscribe. Feel free to ask any questions in the comments section below. Any cells you see on this channel, unless otherwise mentioned, can be purchased from Amy...

Komentáře

  • @user-dy2lr8tg3s
    @user-dy2lr8tg3s Před 3 měsíci

    hello, is it possible to use this new-style BMS on electric bicycles

  • @sspyder181
    @sspyder181 Před 3 měsíci

    Nice! Thx for that bit of info for my library 👍.

  • @quickquote1568
    @quickquote1568 Před 4 měsíci

    Please come back in a year at let us know if that cheap Chinese made transformerless inverter still works.

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 3 měsíci

      So far so good. I did over build the system to take into about the HF inverter. It'll never see more than a 3000 watt load.

  • @omarsegura2847
    @omarsegura2847 Před 5 měsíci

    Nice set up!!

  • @2hotscottpro
    @2hotscottpro Před 5 měsíci

    Where did you buy cells? I see 280ah for set of 4 $440

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 3 měsíci

      Amy from Docan Power amy@docanpower.com. Be sure to mention this channel. I buy all my cells from her and have for years.

  • @LivingFree4All
    @LivingFree4All Před 6 měsíci

    Interesting cell configuration. Is it 48Vs? It doesn't look like you can't read each cell on you BMS but only a group of 4. Is that for convenience? The hookup I've never seen before. I have to look at that more to see how you are making it work like that. Thanks for sharing.

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 3 měsíci

      That was 16S2P so I could read 16 groups of 2 cells. I have recently split the pack and upgraded the BMS to 2-JK Inverter units.

  • @kkz2dgz
    @kkz2dgz Před 6 měsíci

    I know just enough to not know anything .......Im building a 8.5' x 22' travel trailer I have 48 @230 ah cells, my BMS is JK-B2A24S20.....was building three 48v batteries with 3 seperate BMS ..... going to have 12 panels on roof @385w each.... Everyone is telling me to go Victron Eq.......the all in ones inverters look so much simpler but alot of people say they wont work because of the neutral ground bonding.........maybe you could answer all my questions because I have gotten alot of mis information on this whole all in one in a mobile setting......If I use shore power do I need a ground disconnect in my travel trailer to make it work? .....all my loads will be 120v.....no 240v loads ......A/C is 48v.....Just need to clarify some things I dont understand . Any help would be greatly apprieciated !

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 6 měsíci

      As much as I like EG4 stuff, Victron might be a better fit for you. More customizable. MP-II-3000 would probably be a good fit, assuming you have a 30 amp rig. Don't waste your money on the Cerbo. A Raspberry pi and VenusOS is all you need.

    • @kkz2dgz
      @kkz2dgz Před 6 měsíci

      ​I appreciate your opinion.......I went with all top grade materials on everything else.....whats another $5000 for Victron stuff ....lol...Thank You !!

  • @kkz2dgz
    @kkz2dgz Před 6 měsíci

    Mobile applications?

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 6 měsíci

      There are phone apps for the EG4, Solar assistant, and Home assistant for Android. Not 100% sure if all 3 have apps for IOS.

  • @kkz2dgz
    @kkz2dgz Před 6 měsíci

    Travel Trailer application??

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 6 měsíci

      Yes, it's going into a 7X14 enclosed trailer that is being converted into a camper.

  • @kkz2dgz
    @kkz2dgz Před 6 měsíci

    What about the neutral ground bonding in the trailer set up with the all in one??

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 6 měsíci

      That will be done in the campers electrical panel.

    • @kkz2dgz
      @kkz2dgz Před 6 měsíci

      with just a manual switch?

    • @notoshaapproved
      @notoshaapproved Před 6 měsíci

      @@kkz2dgz No, the electrical panel in the camper has the ground neutral bond in it. It has a small 240 volt household panel in it with a double 30 amp main breaker.

  • @kkz2dgz
    @kkz2dgz Před 6 měsíci

    What model of jk bms is that?

  • @kkz2dgz
    @kkz2dgz Před 6 měsíci

    Whats the surprise from Australia ??

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 6 měsíci

      It's been called a "Peter board". Video is coming.

  • @stevedutcher3875
    @stevedutcher3875 Před 7 měsíci

    Would you mind doing a video how you hooked up solar assistant?

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 6 měsíci

      It's planned. I'm currently working 2 jobs and 3 side-hustles so time is limited.

  • @stevedutcher3875
    @stevedutcher3875 Před 7 měsíci

    Is the 6000 xp compatible with a LV 6548 running in split phase?

  • @Electronzap
    @Electronzap Před 7 měsíci

    Nice, looks good.

  • @hendersonsobers396
    @hendersonsobers396 Před 7 měsíci

    Nice looking setup. Can you share the link for the balancing harness?

  • @jamescullins2104
    @jamescullins2104 Před 7 měsíci

    Hello, thanks for posting this! I am looking into doing something similar and was wondering if your JK BMS communicates with the 6000xp? If so, is it just the standard CAN option? If not, is there a way to program the EG4 for your specific battery settup? I appreciate your time!

    • @hendersonsobers396
      @hendersonsobers396 Před 7 měsíci

      You should probably check out one of Andy's videos from Off Grid Garage. He did a review of what he called the Peter board which interfaces with this type of JK BMS and provides communication.

    • @jamescullins2104
      @jamescullins2104 Před 7 měsíci

      Cool, I just ran into his channel, thank you!

  • @kickgas7171
    @kickgas7171 Před 7 měsíci

    I would never install a low cost, lightweight, high frequency, transformerless inverter charger in any of my off grid applications. The Chinese made high frequency inverters on today's market (and they're ALL Chinese made) are not only short lived and provide a weak surge capacity when compared to conventional, heavy duty, low frequency. transformer based, off grid inverters, they can also be dangerous. You'd be lucky to get even two years of service from a high frequency inverter, especially when powering high inductance loads like full sized refrigerators, large power tools, portable AC units or large microwave ovens. The reason for this is that all of these lightweight, high frequency inverters lack a very critical component. That critical component is an iron core, copper wound output transformer. Without an output transformer to act as a buffer to absorb electrical surges provided by the “Flywheel Effect” inherent in the physical amount of a transformer’s iron, these surges and damaging reverse voltage spikes must be handled directly by the inverter’s MOSFET transistors, essential shortening their life. You might be able to start and run some high surge loads when these high frequency inverters are new, but every time you fire up one of those inductive loads, you're shortening the life of the MOSFETs in these inverters. Lightweight. high frequency inverters run much hotter than low frequency, transformer-based inverters which makes the low cost, off spec, Chinese made components such as capacitors, diodes, resistors and ICs that are used in cheap high frequency inverters, far more prone to early failure. Another major consideration with lightweight, high frequency, transformerless inverters is safety. Because high frequency inverters lack an iron core, copper wound, isolation, output transformer, all it takes is for the AC output monitoring circuitry to fail and one of the MOSFETs in the inverter's H-Bridge circuit to short to ground, and a high frequency inverter can dangerous, high voltage, high amperage DC current straight to your connected AC loads which will not only damage most AC appliances but can also set those AC appliances on fire. Another consideration that is never mentioned by those high frequency inverter hucksters, is that the vast majority of these inverters are non-repairable. After the warranty runs out, you're not going to be able to ship these units back to the manufacturer in China and have them repair them. And at a typical shop rate of $125 per hour here in the US, with no schematic and limited parts availability, it won't make economic sense to even attempt to repair one of these units. Once the FETs have fried and have burned a good portion of the inverter's PCB, (And trust me, sooner rather than later, they will fry.) they basically become a brick.

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 7 měsíci

      This inverter will never see more than 50% of its rated load. To test this build, I have been running 2 upright freezers for a bout 2 months. Surges have bene measured at about 1kw for both compressors kicking on at the same time. I overbuilt for the exact reasons you mentioned. It actually has a very large toroidal transformer in it, and it isn't very light.

  • @LivingFree4All
    @LivingFree4All Před 7 měsíci

    Lol I take it you didn't charge that whole set with that little 7amp charger lol it would take several months.

    • @LivingFree4All
      @LivingFree4All Před 7 měsíci

      Lol i say that because when I 1st started I did just that lol so slow

    • @LivingFree4All
      @LivingFree4All Před 7 měsíci

      Oh meant to ask where you got your bus bars? They look like real copper and thick. I like them!

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 6 měsíci

      Amazon, amzn.to/3O4zpAO They weren't cheap. Needed many sets.

  • @Electronzap
    @Electronzap Před 8 měsíci

    Looks good.

  • @kickgas7171
    @kickgas7171 Před 8 měsíci

    Nice battery pack. Not so nice, high frequency, transformerless, low surge capacity inverter IMO. (No it's not a 18kW peak inverter) Should have invested in a longer lived, higher surge capacity, hybrid, low frequency, transformer based inverter.

    • @notoshaapproved
      @notoshaapproved Před 8 měsíci

      Guessing you didn't notice the 6000ex it replaced. This system is properly spec'd for it's use

    • @kickgas7171
      @kickgas7171 Před 8 měsíci

      No high frequency, transformerless inverter on the market today is properly spec'd for powering high inductance loads and will fail far sooner and provides a much lower surge capacity than, a equally sized 6kW Low frequency, transformer based inverter charger.@@notoshaapproved

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 6 měsíci

      That's why I am overbuilding the system. It will never see more than 4kw and will usually only use around 1kw with surges in the 2.5-3kw range. Biggest device it will run is a small mini-split that has an inrush of about 10 amps.

    • @quickquote1568
      @quickquote1568 Před 5 měsíci

      He should have kept the 6000EX. It's a much better inverter.. The 6000EX offers a much longer life expectancy and a far high peak power capacity. The cheap transformerless tech that's used in high frequency inverters don't offer any galvanic isolation between the DC section of the inverter and it's AC output which is not the safest way to perform DC to AC conversion. They are also notorious for offering a shorter life expectancy and a far poorer peak power capacity for starting and running high inductance loads. @@notoshaapproved

  • @scottnipper2659
    @scottnipper2659 Před 8 měsíci

    Whoa! That looks complicated!

    • @notoshaapproved
      @notoshaapproved Před 8 měsíci

      If you break it down into pieces, it's really not.

  • @user-rd2hz5qf9s
    @user-rd2hz5qf9s Před 8 měsíci

    You’re keeping up to date with the eg4. Would you have tried something different than the Pi 4B? I would like to see a 12v output on the EG4 for my application (RV accessories). I see why you have a separate supply for that.

    • @notoshaapproved
      @notoshaapproved Před 8 měsíci

      Solar assistant only runs on a pi. 12 volt output would be nice.

  • @user-rd2hz5qf9s
    @user-rd2hz5qf9s Před 8 měsíci

    Great video. I am very interested in how you setup the diagnostic side for you pc.

    • @notoshaapproved
      @notoshaapproved Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks! I'm using solar assistant on the Raspberry pi 4B and home assistant on the mini PC. There will be more in-depth videos coming up in the future.

  • @jdell6250
    @jdell6250 Před 8 měsíci

    Will you be hooking the 6000XP to your main electrical panel for AC input? If so what is the breaker size?

    • @notoshaapproved
      @notoshaapproved Před 8 měsíci

      Not on this build but a double pole 30 would be appropriate.

  • @kevinmills5293
    @kevinmills5293 Před 8 měsíci

    I did the same thing with a cable linking the batteries at the end but I found it was dropping 30mV under load compared with 0.8mV across the bus bars. Messed up the balancing.

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 8 měsíci

      Yea, I don't like it and will figure out a way to use buss bars for the entire build once I get the trailer and build the pack into a bench. In my defense, it is 2/0 and the load or charge will never exceed 50-60 amps during testing. Maybe never at all.

  • @CurrentConnected
    @CurrentConnected Před 8 měsíci

    Great looking setup you've got there, and thanks for the shoutout!

  • @JbVest
    @JbVest Před 8 měsíci

    I like that cheap little yellow crimper got one myself. Gets the job done just fine 👍

    • @LivingFree4All
      @LivingFree4All Před 7 měsíci

      Be Careful, the little crimper will not do 0/2 or big wire. I broke mine on the 1st try of a 0/2 which it says it will do lol but it didn't at all.

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 6 měsíci

      Have done 1/0 and 2/0 with it without issues.

    • @LivingFree4All
      @LivingFree4All Před 6 měsíci

      Guess I got a broken one and lost trust in them so now I only use the larger crimper. It would be my luck lol@@NoBSBatteries

  • @theadventuresofarenaissancman

    Glad to see more videos on the 6000XP. Keep them coming!

  • @eroenker
    @eroenker Před 8 měsíci

    In the previous video you mentioned just using L1 (120) for AC input to charge the batteries. Is that the setup in this video? Is the inverter still providing to both output legs (L1 and L2)?

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 8 měsíci

      I don't recall mentioning that but it's a bad idea to only feed 1 side of the split phase. It could cause damage to the unit from imbalance. This setup will never see grid power. Only the occasional generator power if there is not sun for several days.

    • @eroenker
      @eroenker Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks for the info@@NoBSBatteries . I'm looking to put this (6000xp) into my RV. So it would also only be plug in if we were at a park or at home. But sounds like it needs both legs so it would be a 50A plug (NEMA 14-50). Love your build info, can't wait for more content!

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 8 měsíci

      @@eroenker This unit has been proven to deal with a fair amount of imbalance on the output side and nothing I've seen about the input side. Best to check with EG4 on that. Using a 50-30 dogbone will only feed one side of the inverter so probably not a good idea. This system will be charged by solar or a 240-volt genny if there is no sun for long periods of time.

  • @larrylp2192
    @larrylp2192 Před 8 měsíci

    What's your approximate total daily overhead? Is the grid connected to this as well?

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 8 měsíci

      It's still in the testing/ configuring phase. Had a load of around 10kwh/ day on it. It didn't even break a sweat. It will end up being built into a camper to be its sole power and will include a generator to charge the batteries if no sun for several days. There will be no connection to the grid for this system. It does have a connection for grid AND a genny so I have a feeling I will be using this model for many builds in the future.

    • @LivingFree4All
      @LivingFree4All Před 7 měsíci

      I just ordered my 6000xp and glad to see your DIY LifePO4 Battery hook to it. I have almost the exact setup lol

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 7 měsíci

      @@LivingFree4All I just got my JK BMS which will connect via a small board I'm getting from a guy in Australia that allows me to have a direct data connection (like the eg4 batteries) to the 6000xp. I'm stoked!

    • @LivingFree4All
      @LivingFree4All Před 7 měsíci

      Sounds interesting, I've been wondering how i can connect my bms (overkill 16c48v) DIY LifePO4 Batteries to this inverter. I just got my 6000XP yesterday!!! So cool. Can't wait to rebuild my system

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 7 měsíci

      @@LivingFree4All Google "UKSA007". He makes a unit for the overkill as well. Be careful, I fried mine by connecting it wrong. I decided to get a JK which can power his board via the BMS rather than having a separate USB C connection.

  • @LivingFree4All
    @LivingFree4All Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for showing us. I am on the wall between this unit and Multiplus 5k which is a lot more $. It's the noise I'm concerned about since it would be in house. I love Victron but they are too expensive for me. I see Connective has a delay on them now on back order

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 8 měsíci

      It does spool up under load and while charging with solar. Quieter than the 6000EX it replaced.

  • @tsp2jxd
    @tsp2jxd Před 8 měsíci

    UPS delivered it perfectly and you disparage them? And you want to build an audience?

    • @notoshaapproved
      @notoshaapproved Před 8 měsíci

      Yes, usually this is not the case. I'm not here to build an audience. This channel is for my clients.

  • @ScottieBMan
    @ScottieBMan Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for sharing, looking at this unit

    • @NoBSBatteries
      @NoBSBatteries Před 8 měsíci

      It's been working well during testing.