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Ne brauch gerade n bisl ruhe um ehrlich zu sein. aber danke fürs erinnern

i have not but i know the game and yes in that regard it is really great. not for me though.

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natürlich arbeite uch am nachfolger aber habe gerade viel um die ohren. Dankeder Nachfrage.

@@Drakkart hab deine Videos noch mal angeschaut sind immer noch super .

@@tessmerstephan4875 cool von anfang an? ja ich hab für die nächste folge mir leider wireder relativ viel vorgenommen und wie gesagt im echten leben einiges zu tun also deswegen wie eigentlich jeden sommer dauert es gerade wieder etwas länger zwischen den folgen aber sobald die raus ist stream ich auch wieder das eine oder andere... das problem ist die stadt benötigt viel "baby sitting" im hintergrund lastwagen die in station rein und wieder rausfahren um wieder rein und rauszufahren bis man sie manuell löscht... also die bugs die einfach im spiel sind benötigen bei fast 150k einwohnern einfach schonmal eine menge zeit aber in den videos will man ja zeigen wie sich die stadt entwickelt also ... naja mit eduld und spucke....

i don't use roads from the workshop they are all part of the base game so everyone has them. the steam collection of mods and assets used is linked in the desctiption.

why people with darksometing as their name consider themselfes funny ;p

no clue what you are talking about i just sense some kind of frustration...

which part?

​@@Drakkart were you saying about build residental in one region. And factory and commercial on same region but in separated region from residental ? And maybe i lack of creativity to build a diverge and converge method .. like we build the road first than build buildings or build road simultaniosly with building? And for factory/industrial alway do 1 way 3lane ? Like from 1 factory goes 6 way, 3 out and 3 in ?

@@muhammadilman1821 ok residential away fom industry with a bit of commercial and office in between so they have a cornershop just for realism sake. but you also probably want to concentrate the majority of commercial in a bigger downtown zone in order to enable rail working really efficient there supplying this area with the goods from the industrial zone. so the trucks will spawn at the cargostations within or surrounding that zone which gives you the opportunity to establish this additional layer of road hirarchy where the trucks hardly want to leave the area because the station they spawned is attached to other roads as where the residentials enter or leave this area. Diverge before converge is basically just the split regarding destiantion before merging the traffic from all the possible sources. this instead of first merging the possible sources and then trying to split the traffic to the different destinations is just the higher throughput method and higher throughput is what you need when dealing with industry at this scale. To build it be aware of where is stuff coming from in the video it was 3sources. and then consider where does stuff want to go to, we had two destinations each covering another type of ressource. so from each of the possible sources we first split the traffic either the truck needs to get to ore oil or it wants to go to forestry farming. and then we merge all the ore oil roads leding them to ore oil and the same for forestry farming. we also could have gone with one road each but as i showed in the video utilizing 3 lane 1 way roads we can put either ressource on either side of such a road. and dedicate the middle lane for trough traffic. in pure vanilla you probably rathere want to give each ressource type its dedicated road. Or for such an industry area where does traffic come from. outside, stations and warehouses then you just arrange the industrial zone in collums and could as well do such a setup. just make the roadlayout sort the traffic regarding where it needs to go to before merging the roads which need to lead to the building the trucks want to get to. 3 lane one way would be ideal but i just would use those for the really heavy traffic normally a 2 lane one way should be sufficient as a road that just needs to serve a collum of industry buildings. but when you merge the traffic from all these collums to five them a trip back road and also want this road to house the stations and the services and such i suggest you pick 3 lane one way instead for you always want to provide a lane in the middle for traffic that does not want to wait for other lanes to finish their business.

idk but i don't see why not

Oh Alr. Thank you

I'd call it studying the game mechanics and "Appliance of common sense" for maximum exploitation ;)

Thank you ötte. Glad you like it.

oh mann ja danke dir. Hatte ich mich nicht noch bedankt - oder war der stream da schon aus? Egal hey super lieben dank dir. die 2 stunden waren echt spitze n bisl was in der Stadt gemacht und noch viel spaß mit euch gehabt besser gehts nicht

Ja Kumpel der Stream war zu ende

@@tessmerstephan4875 Haha omg entschuldige. aber ja das adrenalin hat noch gut gepumpt

i don't know about Cs2. what i know is it is an entirely different game. but yeah most consepts adapted to that new game should still work. But well my concern is more on the missing simulation in CS2 and as the CEO went like we are not going to change it, well i'll probably pass on that game.

@@Drakkart ok thanks. Maybe give it a try In the future once industry is properly implemented. Seen some good improvements lately, will be there in the next couple of months and years I’m sure. Cheers

@@epos79 iam and will definitly monitor the game but right now i don't feel the incentive to check it out. A few things need to change before it can get me interested.

@@Drakkart Alles klar. Weiter so mit deinem Kanal! cheers

oh yeah lovely small is great for looks

danke dir auch

Thanks man!

aboslutely.

Thank you!

hmmm looks like a neat game but hardly anyone playing it...

define realism for cities skylines in context please ;) i mean you can mod the game... you can alter a lot. Personally i feel Pt's job is to get peple to where they need to go. in real live people often spend time with other people, cims don't. So i focus on getting them to their jobs, to attractions, general points of interest including all the shopping options.

the only difference is that the industries dlc uses it's own refinded goods and has aded warehouses. without the dlc you just need to worry about one half of the supply chain the one already established in the original game. That said warehouses are great to have which is why this dlc is one of the most recommended. For it makes it so much easier to build along the supply chain without them you pretty much need to balance everything manually without the added buffer... But the guide on how to organize all of this still stays the same you just have not the handy tools to dedicate an area as next spot in the chain and thus need to think more to properly replicate the structure.

thank you

ich auch nicht bis ne stunde davor ich war im spiel und hab öpnv routen angepasst und irgendwann dachte ich mir so, kannste auch streamen ;) wenn du mal nen wirklich büsen stau sehen willst und wissen willst wie ich rangehe das ist der stream dazu.

na klar gerne ;) ich überlege tatsächlich ob ich dafür ein tutorial machen sollte. Aber was bedeutet "Üfendlich" ?

@@Drakkart meinte Öffentliches Verkehrsnetz

@@tessmerstephan4875ach jetzt ;) danke ;)

it is not my first city ;) more like the 15th or smth. so i sugest you ease into it ;) Thank you, glad the video inspired ;)

yeah i considered the "if you don't like the simulation this game might not be for you" statement from CO as buying advice.

A good idea though i try to keep videos to a certain topic which for algorythms sake is also a bit catchy and all the shenanigans BUT feel invited to catch me when streaming. becuse then when you are asking a question i could instantly show you and take the time to make sure your question got answered i mean ofc i have to do it in my city but still like whatever you missed in the episodes of the let'S play or i didn't cover in the approproate detail i could go into that. streams are great for that because well i normally pick one thing i would like to do but the rest is pretty much open to viewer interaction. you might want to check "the secret of building big cities..." video that might give some clues even though i am not too proud of it's editing in retrospect. regardless it pretty much should deliver the pointers you are looking for.

Thank you buddy yeah i hope people understand it for i really focused on getting my points across.

Thanks a lot dimi! Yeah well as said in the chat first i needed to get everyone on the same page before i could actually get into the issue and how to solve it. so a "catchup part" nicely packed ... ;)

Danke!

hehe yeah the asset at the beginning yeah that is a neat one.

wofür entschudigst du dich? bis heute abend

@@Drakkart das ich nicht dabei war Im Cheat macht ihr heute wieder Zu 3 .

@@tessmerstephan4875müssen mal gucken bisher hat ötte noch nix gesagt.

@@Drakkart schauen wir mal bis heute Abend

Because we successfully split the "regular" traffic where it wants to go to and where it wants to leave again from where cargo is coming from and wants to return to. Let's say you would wonder why you have such massive traffic but forgot to utilize rail. no wonder the customers for your shops as well as the cargo trucks stocking the shops up are all entering and leaving the area through the same - probably highway intersection. But with cargo freight stations connected to roads which for the normal traffic would be considered "side roads" then the traffic mixes on lesser frequentet roads doing its thing and also leaves / returns to the station without bothering the other. Or in other words for the citizens doing their shopping there is nothing of interest on the roads leading to or from the stations. For the trucks there also is very little incentive to leave / return to the area through the same access pathes normal traffic does given the entire city is served by cargo rail stations. because if every shopping area has it's own stations then the shortest route thing will ensure cargo trucks travel on rail always to the stations closest to the goods real destination. only if you leave an area unattended without a station then trucks from other stations would still have to get there to supply the area. But should you decide not to give a commercial area a dedicated station it is probably too small to attract traffic of both kinds in troubeling numbers.

how so?

@@Drakkart I like your vids btw you have given me lots of ideas and make good suggestions… and the bridge wasn’t smooth enough for my ocd lol I’m obsessed with smooth transitions of elevations.

@@foxbodyboys4483so you are appreciating that i also have vry strict rules when it comes to angulations for my railtracks? but the yanky to redlight station threw you off? well it is a full track meanwhile ;) looking back at this video - it is "old" we have the new campuxen now, the airport the downtown and the second supply rail line... but yes i can understand that something might not be to your taste i have the same issues when looking at other peoples stuff that's probably something we need to deal with. I just hope the concepts i try to share still reach you guys. because for me looks is one thing the important question to me always is, is it working or sacrificed / modded to work for pure looks. and i rather admire cities that actually "beat the game"

@@Drakkart I appreciate all your time and efforts into your builds. I have followed your advice on a lot of my rail projects. You have also helped me improve traffic flow!

@@foxbodyboys4483cool! yeah as said understandable that not every detail is to everyones taste ;) i can live with that ;)

well it is not finished yet ;) But eventually i will be able to do that in 2024... Thank you.

naw that is the original. yeah the game populates areas with buildings when you zone them but ground ressources and the different industry specializations then dictate which buildings the game may spawn there. And i also have the Industries DLC which adds kind of a second industry to the mix. actually i got pretty much all the dlc - i think, actually lost track - so if there is something in the series you can not identify, it is either part of a dlc you do not own or it is one of the very few workshop assets i downloaded.

@@Drakkart Thank you for clarifying

@@aaakitsuneno problem glad to help

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yeah well we do not have to buy a product we are not pleased with.

while a game like that would be cool if you were hoping this studio would accomplish anything near that intricate of a game, you are outta your mind. It's an indie studio in finland. A game you are talking about would take a triple-A studio years and years to develop, if you wanted it to be good at least. IDK if you know much about making games, but it's an extremely difficult and tedious process that involves lots of masters of many different arts and industries. It's not like making a movie where a higher budget=better movie.

@@muscleman125bigger budget - less innovation - worse movies. the best movies were mostly made out of great ideas not big budgets. Yes i code, do you code - never mind don't want to know. well they hd years but obviously should have taken some more time before embarassing themselfes. Well according to a quick google search CO had 30 employees in 2022 that is not a "small" indie studio m8. How come you let off steam on such an old video which ia on a totally different topic the map size compared to the original? had a bad day m8?

Well the build will be looking better when the island is finished ;) They are totally cheating just because of the magical transportation aspect. i had the dlc for so long still kind of an ambivalent relationship to the dlc. but when not to use it if not for an island ;)

Nabend, danke ;)

CS2 lacks a proper simulation, stuff gets transportet via magic. In the original every produced unit of goods requires transportation along the way except when utilizing ped areas but then again probably the deliveriy vehicles are just made invisible as seen when a garbage truck enters the ped area and just "disappears". in CS2 there is no proper simulation in the game imperatur showed that it does not matter wether you have PT or not the traffic simulation stays the same even though the Pt prior one day transported xk people so if the game would have a proper simulation like the original then these xk people would use their cars, they dont and noone complains about not being able to reach something so they just magically teleport. which is one of the reasons why i will not support that game for a proper simulation is key otherwise it is just a painting canvas for a city and all the "problems" are created arbitrarily and not caused by actual traffic problems. Sorry but where is the challenge?

I was hoping for people like you finding these videos and also understanding that i mean i am justlike you i see things the stuff circulating does not pose solutions so i have to use my grey cells to figure it out on my own... thanks man

oh and don't forget to check the aftermath because well it did not work for my city but cycling actually might have an effect on other cities.

as ugly as it looks it does it's job but the question how it performs actuallly depends on how your entire city performs if you put it at a bottleneck the type of intersection does not matter for there is not a magical intersection that solves what you might have misorganized throughout an entire city. But yes it works just looks ugly.

The airport? yeah airports dlc. or the camera? yeah that is modded.

​@@Drakkarti meant the cyclists

@@ChrisRPS. they are part of the after dark dlc.

@@Drakkart alr thanks

@@ChrisRPS. after dark is the name of the dlc pr was "air" a typo?