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Expand and Collapse Folders in Reaper #reaper #tutorial
Expanding and collapsing folders so that we can show or hide child tracks in TCP and MCP in Repear is historically a pain. I created a couple of custom actions to make it simpler to use.
#reaper #tutorial
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Unmasking in Dense Mixes
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How to deal with frequency masking while writing and mixing a dense track. Bertom Audio Free Phantom Center Plugin: www.bertomaudio.com/phantom-center.html 00:00 Intro 01:01 What is Frequency Masking 02:11 Writing vs Mixing 02:51 Fix 1 - Articulations 04:39 Fix 2 - Low vs High Frequencies 06:14 Fix 3 - Timbre 08:11 Fix 4 - Volume 11:35 Fix 5 - Panning 13:20 Fix 6 - Phantom Center 17:36 Fix 7 - ...
The problem of AI generated music in streaming platforms
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I've found a Spotify Artist profile that consists of AI generated music, published on a weekly basis often on topics that are trending. #genai #generativeai #spotify #aimusic
How to humanize MIDI drums
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In this video, I show how to make MIDI drums sound more human, from the most basic steps to things I have never seen in any other video. Find me on X: x.com/SynapticSchism Find me on Bandcamp: synapticschism.bandcamp.com/ Khrim Drums Free: bogrendigital.com/products/krimh-drums-free Kilohearts Essentials: kilohearts.com/products/kilohearts_essentials Baby Audio Pitch Drift: babyaud.io/freebies ...
How I wrote Disturbed
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This video goes through Disturbed's composition. I show the plugins, including drums, bass, guitar, amp sims, synths, strings, sound effects and other instruments and go through the Phrygian, exotic (Persian) and 12-tone scales used, discussing how Disturbed was written. I also discuss how I integrated @kiyohimeBTM brilliant lead guitars. Find me on X: x.com/SynapticSchism Find me on Bandcamp: ...
Synaptic Schism Update
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I want to clarify why I changed Synaptic Schism's branding to include the header "All revenue from this project is reinvested in other musicians." Find me on X: x.com/SynapticSchism Find me on Bandcamp: synapticschism.bandcamp.com/ #indie #indiemusic #purpose #channelupdate
Odin III update 3.1 #review and why is it awesome! #guitar #midiguitar #metalproducer
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Examples and review of @SolemnTones Odin III update 3.1. Get the Reaticulate and Notes Names for Reaper: www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tko01jnkwlfjjerfiuy9v/odin_3_1_video_files.zip?rlkey=3ych1nhgi4qht47l34r8c5x8v&dl=1 Find me on X: x.com/SynapticSchism Find me on Bandcamp: synapticschism.bandcamp.com/ #review #guitar #midiguitar #metalproducer #reaper #metal #odin3
Disturbed - Synaptic Schism and @kiyohimeBTM - Progressive Metal
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There's no health without mental health. Special thank you to @kiyohimeBTM for collaborating with me on this track. You can buy the track on Bandcamp synapticschism.bandcamp.com/track/disturbed Music by Synaptic Schism Lead Guitars by @kiyohimeBTM Stock Video by Ron Lach @ Pexels #progressivemetal #musicvideo #videoclip
Yes, our music is safe on Bandcamp and no, they won't use it for AI models.
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I read several tweets about Bandcamp's ToS implying they would use it for generative AI models. That would be a bummer so I contacted Bandcamp and they replied. No, they won't use our music in generative AI models. But there's more to it than that. Generated music is here to stay and something needs to change since the musicians are not part of the deal which is weird. #aimusic #ai #genai #gene...
Remastering with Ozone 11 First Impressions
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I picked up a couple of tracks I want to remaster to test Ozone 11. #mastering #musicproduction #metalproducer #ozone #izotope #izotopeozone
How to write the perfect song - Adrenaline Fire by James Slattery and John Serrano
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Adrenaline Fire by James Slattery and John Serrano is a perfect song. There! I've said it. Well, it is to me. In this video I deconstruct what I think is a perfect song and why Adrenaline Fire fits the description. James on X: x.com/James_EAP John on X: x.com/John Serrano Chronic Ion on Bandcamp: chronicion.bandcamp.com/ Adrenaline Fire on Bandcamp: chronicion.bandcamp.com/track/adrenaline-fire...
How to write an intro - Analysis and Deconstruction of Stoned Ape Theory by Below Carbon
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Stoned Ape Theory is an instrumental progressive metal track by Below Carbon. I analysed how they built the intro and deconstructed it so we can all learn by the example of this fantastic piece of music. Below Carbon on X: x.com/BelowCarbon Stoned Ape Theory on CZcams: czcams.com/video/F_PT13q6N-M/video.html Stoned Ape Theory Songwhip: songwhip.com/belowcarbon If you want to show me your music,...
Reaper vs Studio One and why I chose Reaper
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After some weeks of testing, I decided to return to Reaper. This video explains my motivations for that change. #musicproduction #metalproducer #reaper #studioone
Ugritone Farewell Tour Review #review #ugritone #metalproducer #plugins #deals
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Ugritone is unfortunately going out of business. Their last offer to the music and metal communities is a pack with all their products for $99. This is the review of that pack. 00:00 Intro 01:06 IR Packs 02:14 MIDI Drum Files 03:00 Dazuul (De-Esser) 03:25 TrveCab (IR Loader) 04:12 VerCore (Convolution Reverb) 06:29 Koji (16-bit Videogame Sampler) 07:33 Ampenstein (Amp Sim) 10:33 Drums Against H...
Reaticulate Banks for Djaa Maasta, Axure, Odin 3, Axe Machina and Ample Sound Hellrazer #reaper
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Reaticulate Banks for Djaa Maasta, Axure, Odin 3, Axe Machina and Ample Sound Hellrazer #reaper
The Chug Wars - Djaa Maasta x Axure x Odin 3 x Axe Machina
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The Chug Wars - Djaa Maasta x Axure x Odin 3 x Axe Machina
Odin 3 - Review, Tips and Tricks #review #tips #tipsandtricks #midiguitar #vst #ampsim
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Odin 3 - Review, Tips and Tricks #review #tips #tipsandtricks #midiguitar #vst #ampsim
AXURE Review, Tips and Tricks
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AXURE Review, Tips and Tricks
Otto Audio's DJAA MAASTA First Impressions Review
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Otto Audio's DJAA MAASTA First Impressions Review
UPDATED VERSION - Calibrating headphones for mixing and mastering
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UPDATED VERSION - Calibrating headphones for mixing and mastering
Mixing prog and heavy metal basses in Incertitude #musicproduction #mixing #metal
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Mixing prog and heavy metal basses in Incertitude #musicproduction #mixing #metal
Back to Reaper
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Back to Reaper
Are you too old? #aging #career #depression #musicproduction
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Are you too old? #aging #career #depression #musicproduction
Writing a metal riff about polarized arguments #progressivemetal #composer #musicproduction
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Writing a metal riff about polarized arguments #progressivemetal #composer #musicproduction
Incertitude
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Incertitude
Orchestral Library Mixing 101 - Let's Finish It [EP4]
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Orchestral Library Mixing 101 - Let's Finish It [EP4]
Orchestral Library Mixing 101 - Booms & Transients [EP3]
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Orchestral Library Mixing 101 - Booms & Transients [EP3]
Orchestral Library Mixing 101 - Listen, Define, Act [EP2]
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Orchestral Library Mixing 101 - Listen, Define, Act [EP2]
Orchestral Library Mixing 101 - Setting up the session [EP1]
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Orchestral Library Mixing 101 - Setting up the session [EP1]
F1 Theme - Symphonic Metal Cover
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F1 Theme - Symphonic Metal Cover

Komentáře

  • @5ammy13
    @5ammy13 Před 2 dny

    Reaper is the best and most lightweight DAW for someone with experience of DAWs. It's barebones UI makes it quite hard for a beginner to get their head around it. I suggest Cakewalk for a free DAW on Windows that can basically do almost everything a fully paid DAW can... And after getting comfortable, switch to Reaper. I primarily use Studio One for all the macros, folder busses and basically how intuitive and how quick and easy it makes my workflow.

  • @friskoflash5701
    @friskoflash5701 Před 3 dny

    Started with PlayerPro in the 90s, went on with Logic and later switched to Cubase. Due to other circumstances I wasn't able to record for the past 15 years. Last month I downloaded Reaper and bought the license a week later. To me it provides the best experience - I wasn't able to create music at the same level of comfort with any other DAW I used. Reaper allows me to streamline my workflow in a way I've never thought to be possible. The most convincing fact for me was that Reaper doesn't come with tons of instruments and other stuff, but provides probably the most powerful foundation for you to make it whatever you want it to be: It lets me make my own choices of how to modify it with the exact upgrades I needed without having gigabytes of modules preinstalled that I wouldn't use.

  • @bachfan7537
    @bachfan7537 Před 8 dny

    So you're really using the "machine" to create the idea, melody, and eventually any lyrics for the song. Right? In other words, you did not write the melody. Correct?

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 8 dny

      That was the idea, yes. AIVA didn't do lyrics (and maybe still doesn't) when I tested it and my music is instrumental, so I never got around lyrics. But to be clear, yes that was my objective when I got the pro license. I wanted to use AIVA to generate base melodies that I could orchestrate. I generated dozens of MIDIs that sound really nice but never got them to work with my workflow. I don't know why, I simply didn't like what I was coming up with it. That's not on AIVA, it's on me. In the meantime I changed genres and those MIDIs are... well... taking disk space. The exception was a video I did after this one, comparing what AI could do with what a human could do. The track I used in that video was generated with AIVA and I think the result is very acceptable. That video comparing AI with a human is outdated unfortunately. Since then Suno and Udio gained traction and all I said and analysed a year ago is basically trash and my excitement with AI disappeared.

    • @bachfan7537
      @bachfan7537 Před 8 dny

      @@synapticschism Thank you for your reply. Since I do compose melodies and lyrics, but I am not an "arranger", I'm looking for a software with which I can import MY melody and have that software enhance it with various arrangements, in different genres. Can I import my melody(s) into AIVA and have AIVA produce the arrangement?

  • @thamilanban
    @thamilanban Před 10 dny

    Do we have a way of bringing in a chord detector in Reaper?

  • @MissSladousek
    @MissSladousek Před 11 dny

    As a non-musician and just a common simple user, AIVA is complicated. I think what most people like me would appreciate is a music creator that's as simple as an AI image creator.

  • @thamilanban
    @thamilanban Před 11 dny

    I am currently a S1 user and a small time music producer. The biggest issue I have is that the playback quality of the output through S1 never comes in the output that is rensered with the highest possible quality. I tried to contact Presonus support team and they seem to be unbothered. I think I will soon buy the Reaper license.

  • @tkelong3569
    @tkelong3569 Před 12 dny

    I love Studio One, but it’s handling of a very powerful Ryzen 9 7950X CPU, is deplorable, like most DAWS out there. Reaper is the oNLy one that allows my CPU to work with its full compliment of juice. That is the sole reason that I stayed with Reaper after trying Studio One. S1’s workflow is incomparable. I’ve used Reaper, S1, Logic, Ableton, and others. I don’t need all of the plugins and instruments that come with certain DAWS because I simply don’t use them. I’ve got a really fun and fairly vast collection of third party VSTs and VSTi plugins, so I always go there when I’m writing and producing.

  • @GeeBeeProMusic
    @GeeBeeProMusic Před 13 dny

    I feel there is a difference between hitting generate with no human input and spending time writing a song, getting the structure down, and then generating the end product with AI. No difference between using AI to generate the song and hiring someone on Fiver to play the song I personally wrote. I think the argument is that people with no talent can just pump out 100 bangers a month and put artists out of business. I view it as another tool that can be used by artists to complete work. I didn't see drummers out of a job because I can make drum tracks. It is lame that people can pump out songs but in the end it will just be clutter and garbage. It will take actual human talent to input the structure to make a good song. Plus AI cant play live shows. It will just be another tool used by all musicians, not an end to music. Just my opinion, I am not the authority on how you feel about it. Stay blessed everyone

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 13 dny

      Those are actually good points in favour of AI! :) I think the reason why I'm upset with this finding is that I believe AI can be very useful and powerful... but not like this, you know what I mean?

  • @nowondr
    @nowondr Před 16 dny

    I go back and forth between Reaper and Studio One as my linear workhorse. I love how crazy customizable every little thing in reaper is, but I also find myself getting lost in the sauce of it all pretty often. I forget hotkeys I setup to do things and then get bogged down. I like how studio one does all the important stuff very well and is much more straightforward GUI wise, but then sometimes I miss the customization. I fear i may juggle them both for awhile. Bitwig is my other main. Nothing quite touches what bitwig can do from a modulation/sound design workflow, I just dont love it for arranging and it lacks proper tools like video and ara support for media composition

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 16 dny

      I 100% understand what you say. Never tried Bitwig though, I've heard other people mentioning the same attributes you did but since those are not things I often need, I never got to consider it.

  • @SilkNRoots
    @SilkNRoots Před 16 dny

    I have nothing to say about this video, because I definitely don't know much about mixing, masking, and what not... But I do have this to say: I was there, I read it all! 😉😁😎👊🏻

  • @Xt4848zx
    @Xt4848zx Před 16 dny

    And now i see the song which you have been using in your informational videos. This is awesome!

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 16 dny

      Mate... how can I say this?... erm... if you only watched this now, you missed the launch! :D

    • @Xt4848zx
      @Xt4848zx Před 16 dny

      @@synapticschism i realize that now :D I have been on and off holidays for the past month, so struggling to keep up with a lot

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 16 dny

      @@Xt4848zx Not a problem. :) I'm happy you watched it. :)

  • @LYSHEmusic
    @LYSHEmusic Před 16 dny

    I saw a test on how different DAWs handle fades on audio items. What I remember is that Reaper was one of the best, Pro Tools too, and StudioOne was one of the worst. Who thinks about such things working in the DAW? Close to no one, I suppose. But such differences do exist. Of course, I'm not sure if StudioOne has changed anything in new versions. Also, Reaper has one of the best resampling algorithms, which comes into play when working with samples at different sample rates or rendering to a different sample rate while processing in a project sample rate. There're also tests on the web. Izotope RX is also amongs best alrorithms, if I remember it correctly.

  • @T3PP4N
    @T3PP4N Před 17 dny

    The only robots i actually wanna listen to are Daft Punk man how did we let ourselves get here 😭

  • @vasiliychernov2123
    @vasiliychernov2123 Před 17 dny

    Some day I went to listen to Release Radar on my Spotify. I noticed some releases which list artists I follow as collaborators of a noname artist. I instantly became suspicious, played a track and it was apparent that first of all, my followed artists are of course not related to the tracks and they were added by a shady actor to boost their play counts. Then as I was listening, it also was obvious that the audio was AI-generated as it had some distinct sonic characteristics. AI-generated "music" sounds muffled, something like it's processed through a vocoder with white noise a little bit. I don't remember if I sent a report to Spotify regarding using unrelated artists in songs metadata. I remember the album was called Invasion of Galatto (quite telling). I can't find it on Spotify now, so maybe I did send a report and the album got removed.

  • @user-vr7ib2kg2v
    @user-vr7ib2kg2v Před 17 dny

    could you show how you work with pitchbends and other cc lanes in reaper? it's very hard to copy parts of it or i just don't know how. in ableton you just select the part of it and duplicate, but how here?

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 17 dny

      Same thing in the MIDI editor. On the bottom, you can add or remove lanes for CC, velocity, etc.

    • @user-vr7ib2kg2v
      @user-vr7ib2kg2v Před 17 dny

      @@synapticschism i meant copying parts of automation like with razor editing or autmation items, though i know they do not exist in midi editor. i mean, if i draw some pitch bend automations, but want to move or copy it to another note, i need to draw it again? cause it's not duplicating or moving to the sides.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 17 dny

      @@user-vr7ib2kg2v you can do that with automation lanes in the TCP. In those automation lanes you can copy and paste the points and you have options to move automation if you move the items. If this doesn't help, let me know and I'll add a video about it to the list.

  • @playOLDmusic
    @playOLDmusic Před 18 dny

    I make my own music without any ai. I did release one song per week this year and have already sent songs to my distributor to release every Friday till the end of this year. I agree with everything you said but i can't agree to the fact that the only way possible to release so much music is by using ai.

    • @playOLDmusic
      @playOLDmusic Před 18 dny

      Also released almost 70 tracks last year. Output has been slower this year.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 18 dny

      Fair enough. I mentioned it is not possible to do a release per week with the production values of the tracks I showed. Can you link me to your music so I can compare the production values?

  • @atibakojo3478
    @atibakojo3478 Před 19 dny

    Started with Reaper knew nothing about DAWs not a good move settled on Cubase because it automatically did stuff I couldn't figure out being new to DAWs. After a while I found i didn't like the way Cubase was dealing with electronic music production i was thinking about Ableton but hated the mixer, and went back to Reaper ( which I knew I would do at some point). Yeah it creates like Abelton for electronic music. Very easy sound design stuff. It sounds amazing. I use the old school white tie theme. It looks like how I want my interface to look and the mixer is perfect. Reaper really has no limits. But you have to know what a DAW is what you need and don't need. I never really used the stock programs in Cubase that much. Which was another factor. These DAWs you're paying for the extras, Cubase without the bloat would be cheaper and more useful. To me. Plus Cubase is more for live recording with added samples. Reaper,doesn't matter you can set it up to be what you want. I do house so it is geared for that. But Reaper is my DAW not changing to anything else. No need. I'll keep my Cubase for some instruments but otherwise I don't use it at all, thought I would switch between the 2 but....nah

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 18 dny

      I strongly defend that the best DAW is the DAW that fits the individual's workflow. That seems to be your case. :)

  • @RokoNovakGlazba
    @RokoNovakGlazba Před 19 dny

    While AI music is definitely gonna replace a huge amount of music but it has some stuff it just can't replace, 1. Languages, for English it of course has the most data for singing and grammar but for less spoken languages like Korean? It might be able to make kpop but it won't be able to make some Korean shoegaze (eg. Parannoul) and make it speak coherent Korean, and Korea has a decently sized music scene so what for languages like Croatian or Hungarian? 2. It can't exceed the quality of the best music just due to the way it's made, like yeah, the average quality of an AI song might be better than even most but sometimes quantity doesn't beat quality. 3. I'd rather say that the most popular music as of now relies on image of the artist as well (eg. two artists who I listen to barely: Charli xcx brat which sounded more unique than Crash but is performing way better or Taylor Swift, whose appeal is pushed to be the most popular artist currently alive due to her image as a story-teller and her songs being her diary entries (I'm not saying that the quality of the music does not matter in fact I think it's the most important reason but her image is what pushes her to be the most famous artist right now)) Though these are just the thoughts of a miniscule 17-year old artist from Croatia so correct me if you think I am wrong.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 18 dny

      I don't think you are wrong to be honest. Language depends on how much data on that language it has (including vocal samples) and yeah a lot of an artist's appeal is image related. And never let your age or country of origin dictate if you are wrong or right. :)

  • @holistickezdravi
    @holistickezdravi Před 19 dny

    The biggest challenge is that AI music generators have only recently begun evolving. This is just the beginning! Their only limitation is computing power. Software development has virtually no limits, so AI music generation will rapidly evolve, and in a few years, generated music will surpass our current levels of imagination. Eventually, there may only be room for live performances. Composing music could become just a pastime with no financial reward. I confess that I've completely fallen for this "composing," or rather "prompting." I can't stop it. The output from the generators is still far from perfect, but it's captivating. It's not difficult to "prompt" an entire album in a day, which can be listened to in the car as background music. You can compose the lyrics yourself or with Claude/ChatGPT. It's starting to be faster to "compose" everything on your own than to laboriously search through the flood of "music" on Spotify.

  • @brianwalls3369
    @brianwalls3369 Před 20 dny

    I am a real musician using AI to create music that I LOVE and that sounds 100% genuine to my ears. A good song is a good song! I continue to be blown away by the excellent melodies and authenticity of the vibe generated by AI: youtube.com/@miragemusic83

  • @kacperborecki2133
    @kacperborecki2133 Před 20 dny

    As someone who uses AI for music generation, I completely disagree with the video. I feel like you simplify Ai music to just prompting, but in truth it is much more than that. I would compare Ai generative music to a wild horse that an artist/designer is trying to tame to do what they want. First you have to write your lyrics, then you have to arrange them in a way that Ai will get you more or less what your initial creative thought was. Then you keep prompting for hours or even days and every time improving your instructions for the Ai to get what you wanted. Ai music that people are listening to is not made in seconds, and it also requires some skills and lots of creativity. I agree that streaming platform should clearly separate Ai music from 100% man made music, but it should not be not allowed to post or distribute it as it has its own value and use cases

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 18 dny

      Although I don't fully agree with you (I'm not "just" a musician, I work with AI/ML professionally), I appreciate that you have the vision to understand there's a difference and separation is necessary.

    • @kacperborecki2133
      @kacperborecki2133 Před 18 dny

      @@synapticschism thanks for understanding. And I don’t understand why platforms like Spotify, Apple Music and CZcams don’t have option to label your creations as made with Ai

  • @digitiger100
    @digitiger100 Před 20 dny

    $H1T-MUSIC is compatible with our "metadata guidelines"

  • @cerebrumexcrement
    @cerebrumexcrement Před 20 dny

    i joined an fb group out of curiosity and a lot of these guys think of themselves as legitimate musicians. 🙄

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 20 dny

      Just read the comments here. You'll find plenty of post-hoc justification on how, without any know-how or experience, they justify being artists in their own right.

  • @iterativeincremental
    @iterativeincremental Před 20 dny

    video looks heavily edited. Maybe ai commentary?

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 20 dny

      Yes it is heavily edited because I speak very slowly and the videos become a lot more boring. I do it manually. What is your point?

    • @iterativeincremental
      @iterativeincremental Před 18 dny

      @@synapticschism edited to a point where I asked myself if that is a deepfake. I take boring over this anytime

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 18 dny

      @@iterativeincremental that is a you problem. This isn't deepfake or whatever, it's just heavy manual editing.

  • @thyagofurtado
    @thyagofurtado Před 21 dnem

    People eat sh*t. Most people have terrible taste and simply consume bad stuff. That's how we see stuff like Temu, Ali Express or Amazon... Selling a lot of bad quality products that no one should ever buy. That's how we see stuff like Walmart's "Best Value" being sold and people eating that. Generally people don't care, they just consume bad things. Think of all the horribly bad designed products on t-shirt websites and stickers, etc. It's 99.9% pure AI generated (the bad kind, bad prompts, not-curated from hundreds of results), or unprofessionally done sh*t not at all designed by professional designers or illustrators with decades of experience and degrees... yet people still buy it. That's also how social media content creation and consumption works. The same goes for music. Most people will listen to anything. They don't know any better. They CAN'T RECOGNIZE any better. They are used to bad things and completely disassociated from any sense of quality. Now, if you're reading this comment, that means you are watching this video and you care, so you are the 0.01%. Know that you're not the target audience, nor the most effective persona that will create content for the 99.9% of people that simply don't care. Just create for your lane, the 0.01%. The root of the issue you are describing in this video is simply that the world population is too big, and we have a problem of quantity VS quality. There's not enough quality taste. And because the tasteless population consuming things is huge, that's where the money is at. Any company which the purpose is to make money will produce for the tasteless population and will endorse any methods of quickly producing more for that population. Asking Spotify to remove AI music is the same as asking Amazon to stop selling Chinese crap and start curating companies and products they sell. Big LOL. edit: thanks for linking my comment, OP! People might actually read this so I removed some of the "sh*t"s, as there were to many (this was a hastily comment as an emotional response to the video). Also made some revisions to spelling, grammar, and weirdly enough also math... It would be a bit of hypocrisy to have a bad-quality comment complaining about quality 😅

  • @ChrisEdgeSXE
    @ChrisEdgeSXE Před 21 dnem

    I make a.i. music where I put my own lyrics in it

    • @ChrisEdgeSXE
      @ChrisEdgeSXE Před 21 dnem

      And it's a very cool thing (after 50 tries and 10 accounts) when finally a really standout track shows up with my description being "Bossa Nova, Metal Core, Trap Elements"

    • @ChrisEdgeSXE
      @ChrisEdgeSXE Před 21 dnem

      And I will definitely upload it to Spotify because I really enjoy these songs and others will too. It makes fun to be creative in that way.

  • @asmundma
    @asmundma Před 21 dnem

    You do not know what you do not know. I have used both Studio One and Reaper, but has ended up in Cubase/Nuendo. Many of the fuctions you describe is already part of Cubase. Depending of what you do - reaper lack a lot of musical functions like: No good pitch correction, no easy way to find a tempo of a track, no chord track etc. Seems like you write MIDI a lot, here Cubase is a lot more advanced. And it even more CPU effective for large projects then Reaper.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 20 dny

      You make a good point (indirectly) which goes in line with something I believe: there is no best DAW overall. Each DAW is the best for each individual workflow.

  • @jaywalker6781
    @jaywalker6781 Před 21 dnem

    Suno and Udio are now being sued by Universal, Sony and Warner. Depending on the outcome, it could lead to some important changes... I mean, if the majors win, Udio and Suno are financially dead, and it will be the end of A.I. generated music companies. Now, the use of personal software will be far more complicated to prosecute, as it was with samples back in the days...

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 20 dny

      I don't think the majors want to make AI go away, they just want a piece of the pie. If the AI companies double down and go to extremes, then yeah, maybe there will be major changes, but I'm not seeing that happen. As soon as the majors get their hands in a slice of that money, they will all be friends.

  • @AnttiSimonen
    @AnttiSimonen Před 21 dnem

    I agree 100%. And yes, this is what is going to happen and is already happening. World Is full of AI people, AI art, AI music. World is fake.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 20 dny

      I want to imagine there's a small but relevant group of people who will want to listen to music that is written by people.

  • @burnindownthehouse
    @burnindownthehouse Před 21 dnem

    Rick Beato said about a year ago that in the near future, 9 out of the top 10 songs in the Spotify Top 10 will be AI created and nobody will even care. Casual music listeners don't care who makes their music, they just want to hear music. Whether or not a human creates it is of no concern to them. As a musician it hurts me to hear that, but I know it's the truth. This is what the future holds, unfortunately.

  • @IaS_AI
    @IaS_AI Před 23 dny

    I guess this won´t be a popular Opinion here but you seem to at least try to think about this topic and don´t condem it all right away. It seems pretty strange to me that you are judging music by how it is made. When you found that "Artist" you talked about - why did you need to find out that it is AI to say it is bad? Bad music can be made with or with out AI - AI just made it easier so more bad music without any artistic vision will be made. But at the same time, good music WITH an artistic Vison can be made with AI too. Its pretty strange to me that ppl accept Hip Hop / Rap Artists that buy Beats from someone else and then "Talk" their Lyrics to that Beat as being Artists, while they won´t even listen to the Lyrics some Artist wrote and made Music for it with AI. To me AI is a bit like what a DJ does - you select what parts will fit together and represent an artistic vison of your own. Oh and btw: If someone gets AI to write Lyrics that are good and not obviously AI at first glance, they really are an Artist for coming up with such a prompt to make that happen. So yes, there are ppl making bad music with AI trying to make a quick buck - but there were also ppl making bad music for a quick buck before AI - blame it on bad music without a vision and not on AI.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 23 dny

      I appreciate you taking the time to comment in a considerate way. I don't think I said the AI music was bad, in fact I mentioned that it had high production values. Even if we disagree on what is good or bad music (in my opinion that is often subjective) I hope we can agree that consumer music is expected to have high production value, and the AI music produced nowadays has high production values. From a listener's perspective, I don't think I said AI music is bad. If I did, I misrepresented my position. I'm not arguing about bad music, I arguing the incentives are badly directed and the playing field being uneven given how easy it is to generate music in a very short amount of time at a very low cost with AI. And yes, I am saying people who write prompts aren't artists because no one has convinced me that writing prompts is a form of craftsmanship. I should clarify that I have professional experience in managing data science teams which may be a bias that I will see it is wrong in the future, but at this point, I don't see how it can be. I think there's a point that defenders of generative AI are not getting: if there aren't incentives for people who write music, there won't be enough music to train models in the future. Maybe it is a distant future... but it is a serious possibility. No new models = no music variance.

    • @IaS_AI
      @IaS_AI Před 23 dny

      I guess i mistunderstood you then, based on you saying that you don´t see an artistic vison in this music. For me that means bad music. If an Artist has nothing to say he should not make the song imho. If he does have something to say and can put it in a song i don´t care what instruments or technics he uses - be it acoustic guitar, Keyboards, sampling or AI. I guess it all comes down to this: For me good music means that i can hear that the Artist had something to say with his Art, that he made it to share a message or a feeling while for you the criteria is if it sounds good on a technical production level. You talk about "Artists wanting to make a living from music" - for me thats just as much commoditization of music as the thing you critizise about AI music. Music should not be made with that goal in mind. It can be a sideeffect of making the music you love and its great when it happens. But as soon as Artists start to care more about making money then saying what they want to say i´d say its starts to become bad music from my POV. (And this is happening for decades, most Pop/Chart Music is just made for money, not for the Artistic Vison or message. What is the difference between sample heavy music styles and AI creating new songs based on existing Music? Oh and btw: i don´t think that AI music has very good production if you just take what you get from the AI, at least for some genres of music its an awefull mix and you have to split the stems and mix&master it in a DAW after creating the Track. I also don´t think that ppl will stop making music - there are thousands of Bands and Solo musicians that don´t have a realistic goal of making a living from what they do and still creat aweseom music. If you look at niche genres you will find these Bands and Projects all over the place. Why would they stop doing what is fun for them? They have a vison, a message and want to create. They won´t stop because there is a different way of creating artificial meaningless music.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 23 dny

      @@IaS_AI I think there's a lot in which we agree and a lot in which we either disagree or characterize differently which is not fun to argue about with text. I'm sure we'd have a productive, lively and respectful conversation live. I just want to leave a final message: I run this project because I love to write music and I want to support indie artists. AI music by the very nature of how it is produced goes against these two things when it is allowed in platforms where it competes with artists. Although I do my best to be fair, I am well aware that I'm biased. That being said, I appreciate the discussion with you.

  • @maddyaurora
    @maddyaurora Před 23 dny

    where were you when writers started being replaced by AI? what about digital artists started being replaced by AI artists? and now follows the music you should have spoken for all artists, not only musicians now that you are affected In the end art is art and if it pleases someone's eyes, someone's ears, they wont care who made it or what made it

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 23 dny

      You are right, I should have spoken for all artists. And I should have spoken sooner. I failed to comprehend how problematic generative AI can be until I was followed by this account on X.

  • @SolveForX
    @SolveForX Před 23 dny

    You seem to be conflating craftsman with artist. I have a whole video on why I love Ai art.

  • @SolveForX
    @SolveForX Před 23 dny

    It’s hilarious to watch people standing AGAINST PROGRESS genuinely believing that they’re on the right side of any history ever.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 23 dny

      FYI I worked as head of data science, managing a team of data scientists who developed AI/ML models for several years. This is not against progress. You are misrepresenting my position.

    • @SolveForX
      @SolveForX Před 23 dny

      @@synapticschism Am I? Your position seems to be that 1) Ai companies “steal” - they don’t. 2) Artists who use Ai shouldn’t be allowed in whatever spaces you decree. And 3) Ai Art isn’t art. This isn’t what you said?

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 23 dny

      @@SolveForX no, but I'll help you out. 1. It is a uneven playing field considering the speed at which AI users can upload music. There is a place for AI music, as a commodity, I said it many times, but you've apparently missed it. 2. Without incentives there will be a diminishing number of artists. The implication of this is that you cannot train new models, therefore artists should have incentives to continue to do music. For this reason, no AI music should not be in the consumer space, which is the artists incentive. AI art is art, the people who write prompts to create AI art aren't artists. That is a big distinction. I don't recall ever saying AI companies steal. Are you confusing my video? I have stated in my other videos on the topic on how this should be handled to help artists and AI companies, but you are unaware of that, so you assume that I accuse AI companies of stealing, right? And to finish did you completely miss the point that I have experience with AI/ML. Feel free to drop your LinkedIn and I'll connect with you.

    • @SolveForX
      @SolveForX Před 22 dny

      @@synapticschism I think the “stealing” part was my confusing this comment with another one I was interacting with on CZcams. But insofar as “music as commodity”, most of the music we use in elevators or whatever has always been done by people who composed music for music’s sake - often times we’re hearing it because it’s public domain, not because it was made to be a commodity. The entire score of Always Sunny is that. And yes, Ai artists are artists. There’s no reason to muddy the term. I think what you mean is that Ai artists aren’t craftsmen. Craft and Craftsmen exist on a hierarchy (multiple hierarchies, in fact). Art and artists do not. A person draws a single line on a piece of paper or writes a single word, they’re an artist who did create art if they are engaged in the action of art. Unlike the craftsman who serves the ego and mankind, with each piece of media seating on that spectrum between these two opposing forces, the artist singularly serves their burden to make manifest in our world what they observe of the ethereal. The time it takes, the craftsmanship, et al, is wholly irrelevant as it pertains to the artist and the art they create. These are hierarchies that only craftsmen contend with, not artists.

    • @jaywalker6781
      @jaywalker6781 Před 21 dnem

      "Progress"? In what A.I. can be considered as a progress in the music domain? It's just new tech, dude, not progress! I prompted Udio with that: " An orchestral score for a space opera, made by composer John "Willsman" in 1977." Two minutes later, I had two pieces of music that could easily fit into any Star Wars movie! Wow, what a great progress for music is that! Just a simple sentence, no composer, no musicians, no 800 pages score, no recording, no engineer, no producer... Yeah, man, sure, big progress it is!

  • @AlikanIndependent
    @AlikanIndependent Před 23 dny

    ​ @synapticschism Ultimately these are all tools to a the same end goal, prompting is just a different form of input notation, currently we have all the software and tools that you can write chord sequences, click squares on many a PC APP to define what notes are played and how long for, I started out writing sheet music on sibelius back in school, then later could feed the midi files into a better rendering software. As a software engineer (who has also worked on NLP/NLG and someone (somewhat) musically trained I know that I don't have the time or resources (or knowledge of all the tools and steps!), at my age to make music (even to the level I could 20 years ago!), and some of this new stuff has been really good for my enjoyment as it reopens those doors to be creative and share with other humans and make them happy. At the end of the day, even something as 'dumbed down' as Suno -> you still need 1000 hours of raw experience or a decent grounding in tokenization and how and why an AI tool creates what it creates (considering most training data will be 4/4 for example) to have half a chance of consistently making anything sound decent. Otherwise it's just Loot Box Music for the masses... a few good ideas will come out of 1000s of bad songs even if you are clueless, this low bar probably upsets some musicians. (But from a listener perspective, this feel the same to me as listening to 1000 teenage bands to find one that actually sounded decent... and hearing what sounds good for the masses, is technically also a skill) At the end of the day AI music as 'powerful as it is', once you listen to DECENT human music there is a chasm of quality difference, and current prompting is in its infancy as a form for describing music, (I suspect as the training data needs many more layers of tags to get to a richer more powerful prompt based input working at the 'next' level) Which is why outside of musing ideas, for music - this pseudo-instruction format is NOT USED traditionally over sheet notation etc. - What we have in the AI space, leads to a lot of limitations, proper roundels / counterpoint - forget it... Something like suno doesn't have a structure close to representing 2 people singing over the top of each other with different melodies / words concurrently... and yet you 'might' achieve it via the lootbox random luck. For me the real issue is any artist (however they create the music) barely gets anything from a streaming service, and the amount of people / skills needed to make a decent song is quite high, even the BEST AI todate barely lowers that requirement if you want to make anything better than a 'recorded in your garage' vibe. My understanding / suspicion (could be totally off-base conspiracy this!) is the RIAA crew who are filing lawsuits, just see money and want personal control the music gen scene, they would rather licence and launch their own tools so they can track the 'influences' of artists / tracks and line they up what they do own with anything you make (with algorithmic proof) - and then if you did Launch your music claim a large cut as licence holder, they'll sell the idea by giving 2% back to the orig. artists, or something tiny.... meanwhile a 'skilled' human who takes influence from multiple bands (as happens today) does not face this issue, although even the best artists, certainly they are getting a very raw deal. Isn't it roughly like $4? for 1000 streams? - this is absolutely shocking. Music is probably too cheap to access, lets face it a multi-user monthly sub for less than a CD? - it's economical nonsense, unless you listen to max an hour or so of music a month. Apologies for rambling. Certainly many topics for debate here.

  • @Thepietro5000pp
    @Thepietro5000pp Před 23 dny

    As a visual artist I agree with everything, however there's one thing prompters can't do. Live shows. Maybe I'm in a bubble, but I've seen a lot of people ditching social media and heavily dropping their internet usage. I myself changed my smartphone to a dumbphone for contact, Walkman for music, PSP for entertainment. Surprisingly, lots of people around me did the same in the past year or so. It's still not very common, but I believe a bigger "back to real life" movement begins. EDIT: also there are two points to remember. 1. People who don't care about if song is AI generated don't buy music. CD era is over, now it's all in streams, and it's better to have 1000 devoted fans that buy every album you put out, than 10 000 listeners who just stream your song from time to time and then forget you exist. 2. No copyright. The tracks you mentioned can be downloaded and uploaded on Spotify as "yours" and nobody can do anything about that. AI and prompters having no ability copyright strike you is something that will be weaponized in the future, and I'm here for that :)

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 23 dny

      I have indeed moved away from social media, especially for private stuff and I'm only active with accounts for this project. I agree that live performances may be a thing, I've considered writing and mixing music on Twitch but I fear it may be distracting.

  • @Grimguapo
    @Grimguapo Před 23 dny

    can I use them as one shot in say ableton drum rack or sampler?

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 23 dny

      I can check but you need to tell me which product you are referring to. There's a ton of plugins here.

    • @Grimguapo
      @Grimguapo Před 21 dnem

      @@synapticschism apologies, something like the Modern Doom Drums sample library

  • @notaspectator
    @notaspectator Před 24 dny

    Thanks for bringing up the issues :) . I'm a software engineer of many years but shifted to making my music and playing instruments and teaching arrangements to people with disabilities. I am figuring out a new platform and a way, publish 10% to spotify/apple music, the rest from own site I can help with, no analytics or ads or promotions over each other, more localized and very little ability to skip music. Will try it out and test out my theories with artists and hopefully get some support and some financial support as I am running dry on savings.

  • @schnitthart
    @schnitthart Před 24 dny

    About a year ago, I saw that someone called himself "Schnittharty", which is very similar to my artist name. He created songs and one of his songs has the exact same name as one of mine. I saw the name of the "label" in his Spotify account details. Unfortunately, I can't remember the name of the homepage, but probably don't exist anymore, don't know. On this site you can create AI songs for different genres and upload them to Spotify. The annoying thing was not only that my name was stolen, but that this garbage also produced even more clicks, although it is clear that the higher numbers could not have been human. I didn't want to be associated with that so I contacted them and threatened to take legal action and they took everything down.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 24 dny

      I'm sorry you had to go through that. I hope everything is fine now.

    • @schnitthart
      @schnitthart Před 2 dny

      @@synapticschism yes everything is vanished from his page

  • @FitriZainOfficial
    @FitriZainOfficial Před 24 dny

    thanks for this video, well said brother🙏

  • @Rolanoid
    @Rolanoid Před 25 dny

    Well said. I have spent a lot of money on equipment and software over the years not to mention the time investment but when I tried Udio earlier this year I knew the writing was on the wall and I haven't spent anything since then as it just seems futile now unless you already have a big fan base.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 24 dny

      Thank you for your comment. Out of curiosity are you a professional musician, or aspiring one? I'm asking because I'm trying to understand the implications of you stopping to invest.

    • @Rolanoid
      @Rolanoid Před 24 dny

      @@synapticschism I'm an independent artist but invest more than I make. More so each passing year so I look at it as an expensive hobby. I know I make good music because sometimes one track will have millions of streams on my royalty statement and yet I get $4. That figure was not from Spotify but another big name but it is difficult to track down how and where exactly it was used. The companies just send you back and forth to each other. It's quite demoralising. Now the influx of AI generated music which is further eroding the value of music just makes me feel further demoralised. I love making music so I will probably continue at some scaled back level but just not throw the same time and money at it.

  • @risengrind6268
    @risengrind6268 Před 25 dny

    7:39 stop please complaining about things you can´t change. I am a musician myself. The whining is useless. Make the best of it and make your own money with the new possibilities that AI provides.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 25 dny

      I don't care about making money with music, that's my whole point. I'm not whining, I literally don't care. Moving forward, where can I listen to your music?

  • @reecejunior4578
    @reecejunior4578 Před 25 dny

    One correction; Studio One Hybrid gives you a perpetual license after 12 months. So they at least finally figured out that people don't want to pay so much for their product.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 25 dny

      You are not correcting me. The perpetual license doesn't include updates after you stop paying the subscription. You need to keep paying for the updates which means that my calculations are correct for the updated versions of both. I will stand corrected if Presonus changed the hybrid offer, but if it didn't, the cost for the updated versions is correct. On top of that, the offer I received and all hybrid offers overall only include one version of S1, while Reaper, at least until now, includes two main versions. In practice this translates to 4 times the cost per purchase, if you disregard the updates, which are included in Reaper for free.

  • @slowster2945
    @slowster2945 Před 25 dny

    A few years ago I almost bought back into ProTools after a hiatus from making music. It was all I knew. But by chance I was watching a review video for Eleven Racks and the guy just casually mentions Reaper. I'd never heard of it. And now that it's what I use, I can't fathom why I'd never heard of it. I'd heard of everything else. Reaper seems impossible to me. It's so powerful, it's so efficient, and it's so affordable! It's literally free unless you have a conscious! The creators are absolute legends of the industry!

  • @stefbaldfish2982
    @stefbaldfish2982 Před 26 dny

    If you write lyrics then AI is a good solution to express yourself. I hate it when it's put down as easy. Writing a Nice lyric is work to...

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 26 dny

      I'm not completely uncomfortable with that idea, to be honest.

    • @stefbaldfish2982
      @stefbaldfish2982 Před 26 dny

      @@synapticschism i have a closet full of own written poetry. I gradualy rewrite them to lyrics and put it to music using AI. I don't feel embarresed to be open about this. I put effort into my writing. But nobody reads poetry these days. And I banned my radio because it was not satifying me. I hate the music of today So I took it in my own hands. I only produce songs that are in line of what I like. And I listen to my own music every single day on Spotify. My life became more satifying. So I understand that musicians see this as a threath. But I see it as making songs that my favourite artist can't make because they are death or stopped making music. Think of Meat Loaf, Jim Steinmann, Elvis, ... And so on... What is the crime in that? I feel good about this. And honnestly... If the music industrie had been more open, this AI discussion was never An issue. But record labels had to much power. So... I 'm happy with what I do.

    • @stefbaldfish2982
      @stefbaldfish2982 Před 26 dny

      By the way you can judge for yourself. Just check out my band: Lustful Luminaries

  • @retrobloke
    @retrobloke Před 26 dny

    I don’t think you’ll find a musician on the planet who doesn’t whole heartedly agree with you. It is heartbreaking. 8000+ listens! Like many I only have a handful of monthly listeners on my Spotify channel as it is, now I’m competing with this! I guess most people who make music have to be resigned to just making music for themselves. Soon there will be no point putting anything out there for others at all 😢

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 26 dny

      I am in the camp of writing for myself, but I'm not worried about me, to be honest. My biggest concern is the artists who are trying to launch a career because they are putting a lot of resources into it and this is an uneven playing field against them.

    • @retrobloke
      @retrobloke Před 26 dny

      @@synapticschism My hope would be that there is a bigger backlash and the streaming sites change their policies, if they don’t surely they threaten their own businesses. It will just dilute the content into wishy washy ear fodder that all sound the same. Probably what’s needed is getting some big bands behind it, creating some kind of anti AI movement or protest group. We are basically allowing AI to irradiate human expression, it’s truly a massive issue right now. Checked your music btw, interesting!

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 26 dny

      @@retrobloke Yeah, I think that a small channel with a small X following like me isn't going to change much. Thank you for checking my music, I appreciate you. :)

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 26 dny

      @@retrobloke oh and cool channel of yours. I'm a game dev veteran, already lost track of how long I've been around professionally, maybe 15 or 16 years.

    • @retrobloke
      @retrobloke Před 26 dny

      @@synapticschism oh wow, game soundtracks? Or coding? Always something I’d loved to have got into, but these days all my new music tends to be for my YT shows. Would love to know what games you worked on.

  • @Istarax
    @Istarax Před 26 dny

    I fundamentally disagree with the extent of the problem. As you saw, their music was all over the place, they will not gain a large following that way. You have nothing to be afraid of. Also, if you are worried about uploading too infrequently, you could embrace the change and find a way to use AI to speed up your workflow. I agree, writing a simple prompt to generate anything is not artistry, but I believe real artists can remain artists, even if they use AI in their workflow. I'm not too familiar with AI music generators and how easily you can make it actual art, but in image generation at least, there is definitely a possibility to be an artist who uses those tools. Some people use ready-made loops and synthesizer presets, which imo is just as bad (not bad) as using AI to generate vocals or drum tracks for their music. Creativity is about combining things, it's literally impossible to come up with something completely new.

  • @DavidAnderson-vg8uz
    @DavidAnderson-vg8uz Před 27 dny

    Finding more and more of this generated "content" right here on youtube. The ai slop-merchants don't care about about your final point, it's all about easy, selfish, short term gains.

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 27 dny

      I can't argue with that. It is a very short term view, in my opinion.

  • @Aihiospace
    @Aihiospace Před 27 dny

    Why would Spotify have an issue with AI music? They themselves use AI to create endless playlists of AI-generated music to suit every passive consumer-listener's mood and taste (hence no need to pay real artists any potential royalties).

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 27 dny

      What are the official playlists of AI generated music?

    • @Aihiospace
      @Aihiospace Před 26 dny

      @@synapticschism I honestly don't know and don't want to know. I don't use Spotify myself, because I love and listen to music. But there were articles and posts about these "generic AI mood music" playlists, that Spotify creates in order to attract more subscribers, a couple of years ago already...

  • @yuaelt
    @yuaelt Před 27 dny

    I have to respectfully disagree. Your point reminds me a bit of the times when synthesizers and loopers were first introduced, and the "traditional" musicians were appalled by the music created with the help of computers, saying this is no longer art, that the creators are engineers rather than musicians, that it's artificial and fake, etc. Same when Fatboy Slim emerged and the wider public realized one can make new tracks entirely by sampling existing records. Did it make musicians die out? No. Firstly, it's easy to be impressed by AI output when you first hear it, because it's such an improvement compared to a few years ago. But if you give it a closer listen... the tracks AI spits out have all kinds of problems you'd never encounter when working with humans, that still make the song useless (random noise, fake-sounding vocals, nonsensical lyrics, AI hallucinations, inconsistent melody, very basic solos... to name just a few!). It takes actual skill to make it spit something presentable. Forgive me if that's not what you intended, but I get the impression you don't recognize that effort. Secondly, what you get is usually the most generic version of the style you asked for. Listen to it and any music created by a decent artist (emphasis on 'decent' here) and you'll realize just how low creativity the AI output is. The users of these platforms constantly demand them to allow for more control, more direct editing, and more granular options to actually inject their own creativity into the output. And finally - the account you showed in this video has a total of... 4 followers. To me, this means their weekly releases are not good enough to attract an audience. They'd probably have to put a lot more work into the tracks to gain popularity, especially with next to zero chance to have a recognizable style. But speaking of work, let's not forget that artists get paid for the effect of their work, not the time spent on it. So while I don't think AI will be able to spit out anything better than humans overall anytime soon, if there are some individual AI creators who already make better music than some individual traditional musicians... I don't have a problem with the latter having to change professions, sorry. My point is, I think the real artists who make actual use of human creativity and original thought, will prevail. Some by just doing what they're doing and being great at it. Others, by learning to incorporate AI as a new production tool. Thanks for the interesting video!

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 27 dny

      I won't disagree with you that my complaint is similar to musicians complaining about sequencers, samplers, synths, DJs, etc. I have been accused of not being a musician myself for being early adopter of tech in music and I have always defended that whoever is making music is a musician. The difference, in my opinion and probably where we disagree, is that writing prompts is not writing music. Regarding the middle part of your reply, I work with AI and ML for years. I understand the effort, I just don't agree that it is a creative one and I don't recognize it as an artistical output. It's a technical effort. Lastly on the number of followers, you probably saw the FB page. The Spotify account says it has 4k monthly listeners, which is decent. However, I have checked other accounts that are very likely AI and one of them has 800 thousand monthly listeners and one track with 55 million streams.That is taking room from artists who write music and I don't agree with that. I want to finish by saying that I appreciate your input and embrace open discussion on the topic. While I don't agree with you, I respect how you presented your points.

    • @yuaelt
      @yuaelt Před 27 dny

      @@synapticschism Thank you, and likewise! I enjoy a good conversation, and that is usually one where people's opinion differ a bit! Thank you for correcting my perspective on the number of followers these creators get - I had no idea there were so many. To be honest, I've been experimenting with one of these tools (suno) for a few months now, but I haev yet to produce anything I would, with a clear conscience, put on Spotify, let alone expect it to gain any popularity. It's just not that good to listen to. Of course, the reason for that could be that I'm terrible with prompts, or that there are a lot of people out there with bad taste, or both. But when I think about it... it actually supports my point. Spotify isn't by design a museum of art, even if it can serve that purpose too. If there are 55 million people who want to listen to AI-generated music even as it is now... why not let them? There are even more who listen to pop idols pretty much manufactured by record companies, performing songs written and composed for them by a small army of people, with strict guidelines, mathematically calculated best-selling bpms, the best ratio of repetition in the lyrics, etc. Are they all artists? Are they not? And most importantly - do we have to care? My answer is no. We listeners are not obliged to care whether the person who created the music we enjoy has the right to call themselves an artist or not. I realize this sounds quite cynical, so here's some explanation: We've learnt to accept things as works of art even if there is zero skill, craft or beauty to them - that's the XXth century art, you could literally spend half your life writing numbers on a door in increasingly faint shade of grey, and that was art. Now, we got a tool that allows anyone create something with a high craft value in record time. But if we have already agreed (as a culture) that craft is not what makes an artist - the idea is - then nothing has changed here, we still need an artist to come up with an original idea. Ergo - AI prompt writer may not be a composer, a painter or a writer, but they are 'artist enough'. On the other hand, if we decide that it can't be all about the story and whatever faff the creator cared to write under his scribbles to justify them hanging in the museum (which is very much my unpopular opinion on postmodern art as a whole...) then we need to admit that art needs craft. But if it is so, then it's really not that sacred, and we go back to an almost medieval view of a musician being valued as much as, say, a baker. You can get artisan bread (good music by talented and educated musicians), your local bakery produce that's just OK but you get it fresh (wedding bands? :D) or you can buy it mass-produced (manufactured pop idols, or as of now - the AI) depending on your taste and needs. You'll call much less people 'artists' with this interpretation, but you'll need to accept the world needs the crafters too. Those 55 million, as much as their existence surprises me, are probably not all bot accounts... I don't know if that makes more sense, or does it make me sound even more cynical, but actually, I have a pretty positive view of this situation. I am looking forward mostly to the hybrid results of when creative humans prompt the AI, then take whatever it spat out and edit it themselves. Who knows, maybe we'll actually get something good out of it!

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 27 dny

      ​@@yuaelt everything you say makes perfect sense, I'm not even going to refute it. I have ZERO issues with the person who writes the prompts or the final listener. My issue is with the distributors and streaming services. Why? My two main points are these: 1. Artists who write music have less space, and given the inequality in output potentially not enough space for artists to have incentive to continue. 2. If you have no artists, you have no models. This is something that should concern you as someone who uses these techs to create. If there are no artists, there are no new licks, no new genres, no new tones, no innovation... nothing new, ever. You've mentioned the artists who don't make it, tough luck, look for a new job. Ok, that is the cost of new tech, but do you think that the models you are using will survive if only the 1% of artists make it? It won't. You won't have enough variance to create new music at the click of a button, you won't have new styles, new ideas, etc. You can only create what already exists and the more you create, the less you'll have. I think you haven't grasped how dangerous that is. The top artists are not enough to create new stuff, not in volume and not in variance. I work with this tech for a long time. I managed teams of data scientists in very large game dev companies. To have this stuff delivering new content you need thousands upon thousands of new songs. If you take out the people who write the music, who's feeding the models?

    • @yuaelt
      @yuaelt Před 27 dny

      @@synapticschism I understand your concern, and I'm not saying it's not valid. Of course it's scary to have to compete with a technology that seems like it could take your jobs any day. In my industry (localization) the first wave of that happened with the arrival of neural machine translation, that made many people fear they'd be replaced by AI in a few years. It still didn't happen to this day, but with the arrival of genAI the voices are louder than ever. I hear you (and my colleagues too) loud and clear. The thing is, I don't think Spotify, or any other streaming platform, has an obligation to subdue the AI-generated music just because it can be made faster. What I think it should be doing, is developing its playlists and suggestions in such a way that they stay interesting and relevant to the listeners. So my answers to your points are again a bit more optimistic: 1. Less space for artists - that's not likely if the playlists are improved to keep the listener interested, because that is where humans win. However, that's based on the objective variability, and not artificial parity points. If the playlists are not improved, the large influx of low quality AI content would steer the bored listeners towards human-curated playlists where, again, quality or at least variability and novelty are what keeps the audience - and these criteria promote human compositions and/or heavily edited AI outputs that can match those. 2. No new data to train the AI therefore nothing new ever - since you work in the field, I think we can skip to agreeing that no matter how many traditional artists prevail, AI goes through the data much faster than we can produce it, so yeah, sooner or later we'll hit a ceiling of what it can do. But I wouldn't frame it as a problem - it's the humans who have new ideas. I never expected AI to evolve to the point where you can generate a truly original piece of music with one click. I expect it to become a tool for creative people to enhance their ideas, and a replacement for those who don't bring anything new to the table (that's the group I meant when I said I wouldn't mind if they had to change jobs, although something tells me many could easily turn into fast unedited AI spammers - same quality, less effort...). To sum it up, I don't want to disregard your concerns for the artists well-being, but I don't think we should make it Spotify's responsibility. And at the same time, I think our species' innate creativity, and need for novelty, both deserve some credit :). In the end, time will tell, I guess. Meanwhile, thank you for the very interesting conversation!

    • @synapticschism
      @synapticschism Před 26 dny

      @@yuaelt thank you for the discussion. :)