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Just break the law. As the law is not fit for purpose

Are you near wiltshire by any chance?

Surely the police will take this without question, pedals or not? Police in my area know the difference between a 750w ebike and a surron with pedals 😂 You're brave risking that, i never stop if police ask or nod and point for me to speak to them, id lose my bike all day, pedals on it or not

Pedal assist bike rules ensure they are pedal assist bikes and not just electric motorbikes. These are reasonable limits to ride without a license. Speeds higher than 16mph just start getting dangerous, particularly on cycling infrastructure. Riding a bike at speeds lower than 15mph without a helmet is not necessarily unsafe.

Humm I ride a non e trike 250 miles a day often. E bikes are designed to help those not fit to ride more.

Just smile and wave 😊

I would love to know where this is because I have just re-built my talaria sting r for road use & off road use just put the sotion motor on it & the bac 8000 controller also the xt front shock & rear shock so i would love to take there to try it out 😊❤ great content by the way keep up the great videos brother

What battery are you running

my full suspension mtb has a 250 watt motor, it's fine, we have some of the steepest roads in the country and it flies up them easily . Offroad things I could never get up on my old regular bike became easy. I don't want a throttle at all, I have a motor bike if I want to get somewhere. I go out on a mtb to get out and get a bit of exercise and have fun. There's no fucking way I am paying insurance on a mtb. Leave it how it is and stop being lazy and pedal a bit, if your 250 watt motor isn't enough I would argue your motor is a piece of shit or your legs don't work. Also the cbt allows you to ride up to a 125 cc bike.

If you have to register it and insure it, then just do your motorbike license and you could ride whatever output ebike you like? Currently you could register a full power surron and just ride it as a motorbike 🤔

250 watts is sufficient for biking on the road. Allowing a better throttle for setting off and starting at junctions is a matter of safety. If it is uphill at a junction you need the power to start and get across it as there is a time lag with pedalling and it’s too much effort. For the elderly this is essential. The law in New Zealand is simple and sensible. Keep to the speed limits. Throttle is allowed. We need to have this here with the 250 watt limit retained, throttle speed to be same as pedal assist speed.

Everything said in this video is self serving rubbish

I would like a higher top speed and a more powerful motor but i can see that without limits people would start doing crazy stuff... Out of town it's less of a problem but in town the behaviour of some e-transport is unacceptable... Old people and young children frightened to death or hurt because they are frail or just young and learning to cross the road - that's just wrong...

Beautiful machine. Just a shame in my country the police would take it away the moment you get caught riding on public streets. 😩 Much too powerful.

Mine dose 30mph disconnect speed controller god how am I going to sleep at night I feel like such a criminal lol.

If you have to register your Ebike then it will no longer belong to you, you will become the 'Keeper'. I will continue to ride illegally yet sensibly.

Children shouldn't be forced to insure or license a bicycle

They should legalise the eScooters too. Many people use them to commute instead of a car. My only gripe is... Can cyclists and scooterists start to stop at traffic lights and obey the highway code. Currently around here. Cyclists etc think traffic lights etc are just for decoration.

Let's be honest only Governments can make stupid out of laws

Roughly how much is the insurance on the surrons?

It's jealousy! They don't want you to be seen getting something for nothing. Get rid of your car and ride around on a solar charged ebike and it's just not fair😁Plus they lose thousands in TAX.

This government of privelidged morons will be gone in a few weeks. Labour will, if they get in, be worse. They were the ones who brought in ULEZ. They will want the e bike lawchanged so you are restricted to 10mph and wear a mr blobby suit. If you think common sense will prevail, you are sadly misguided.

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i love your videos 😄😄😃😃

so cool👌

This is great news for chinese ebike manufacturers eu manufacturers will not go in the uk market because that requires a special manufacturing line for the uk only

Wait so, if u buy a 250watt motor for ebike it needs to be insuranced or just 500w?

It is true, trespass is a civil matter. However if you do damage whilst trespassing then that becomes aggravated trespass and that is a criminal matter ! Riding though someones field and damaging their for crops would be aggravated trespass. Beware this guy isn't correct in what he says, also about the CBT, he needs to update his knowledge. He also talks about GPS, but clearly hasn't researched it and understood the problem and inaccuracies of using it for speed measurements, otherwise he likely wouldn't have made the errornous statements he did. Just beware of listening to people who make statements without research that is then peddled as fact.

Yhis is so wrong... Might wanna check what torque is.... Not all 250w motors are equal. 40-120nm of torque from 250w motor. You should stump up for a 100+nm bike and remake this video...

Sorry but I disagree . I have a 250kw e bike and it makes a difference . Without the pedal assist , my heart will stop from cardiac arrest .

I've been wanting a surron for a while and riding dirtbikes since I was like six years old and I really want a dirtbike but im just scared that the cops will take it if I go anywhere on the road which is mainly where im gonna go and really just dont know what to get.

The USA speed limit of 20mph is approaching sensible. I ride a normal bike at around 18-22mph and I've raced down hill skateboards at 50mph (world record is over 90mph). 15mph is just useless apart from pottering around a city.

Whilst I agree with the main thrust of your video, personally I find the 250 watt motor perfectly adequate for my needs. My one big issue is range and the affordability of new batteries. I have a thumb throttle on my bike which gets used for pulling away from traffic lights, I'm not a lightweight rider (15st) and even at 250 watts the kick I get from the throttle is amazing, I look forward with interest to see just what the government's new regulations are.

3 feet in length, not height!😂

Why they even make speed limiy etc for bike, if i can go around 40km/h on my bike if I use full force. I think on Bike roads etc they should just put speed limit signs in cities etc, but whem you are on a long road in beetween the city, you should go faster than 25/h . Only reason they are limiting ebikes is because if alot of people had 750w ebike that could go 50km/h, half og population would rather go to work by bike than car. And less cars mean less money for countries

Good work - good explanations - good advice - good video. I got a Surron 3 weeks ago and learning to wheelie it is on my list - so thanks.

Never been pulled on mine ride it about on off road all the time 30 mph is fast enough for me and the pedal assist is honestly awful and dangerous. If I'm going into town etc ill wear my helmat n googles because just bugs wacking off you can be pretty dangerous at a constant 30mph but nipping to the shops at the top of the road nah ! Oh and since ebikes are not registered ie you haven't signed your property over to the government and become the registered keeper not owner . No acts apply if you don't consent ride ur bike where ever you want have fun.

I get what your point is but you must understand that if you allow to be monitored by an app then you are kissing goodbye to your freedom think about it! dont fall for the trap

250 watt with peddle assist is a good combination for keep fit and hilly locations, if I need more power I'd purchase a small motorbike, how do you get the off road Surron from your home to the off road private track if you don't have a car and trailer. ?

Eh just pass your test and you can get a bike that goes up to national speed limit

When insurance companies start making money watch how fast the laws change

The laws aren't made by people who ride bikes. some big fat w--ker in a jag.

Cbt will allow you up to a 125cc fyi. Great info on the updates mate cheers 👊🏽

''the law stipulates that you cannot pedal furiously'' had me in stitches mate lol

Great news, absolutely needs to be registered and insured. And CBT IS GREAT NEWS, it should be compulsory for every biker, including push bikes to ensure they know highway code!

Well guess what - 30yo are not "boys" - and they're not wasting their money on bimbos. My money - my choice - now back to installing a Torp on the Ron!

Great video. I am in the USA (California), but I feel you. Your local laws are far worse than ours. Ours are 750W and 28 mph, and yours at 250W/15mph always seemed unreasonable to me. At the end of the day, who cares? As long as you abide by the laws and the rules of the road locally, why should the power matter? Would the government prefer I ride a motorcycle or drive an ICE-powered vehicle? At least my e-bike is powered by my solar panels on my house, is non-polluting, and isn’t hurting anyone since I DO follow my local laws.

Good points raised for a debate. 1. You say you can’t see the point of having 250w as the government believe this is equivalent to a person pedalling. The point is with the 250w power assist that it gives your bike the assistance of the eqivilant another person pedalling with you for the few kilos added by the e-bike accessories. My 250w e-trike gets me around ok and up hills where I live with my 14 1/2 stone arse on it. If you have an e-bike with mid drive that drives the chain it will handle hills more easily by being able to change down through the gears. With a hub motor it’s a bit more limited. 2. Yes you can ride an e-bike with greater power than 250w on private land BUT with the owners permission as there is an accountability issue. If you ride without the landowners permission and knowledge they are not liable for any outcome as you have trespassed. If you have their permission they are partially responsible for your actions under their duty of care obligations, hence the ‘with their permission bit’. 3. The reckless riding law is in place as bicycles and tricycles aren’t obliged to have a speedo so you can’t get done for speeding, hence the reckless riding law which was used when a cyclist killed a woman when they ran into her at speed. 4. The mph limit on the throttle suits me as my e-trike manages to meet the requirements of the invalid carriage regulations 1988 so as a person classed as disabled due to not being able to walk distances I can ride it on footpaths and in town centres at a max speed of 4mph. 5. Needing a licence: I think any person riding a bike or trike at a responsible age should have to attend a cycling proficiency test especially if having no driving licence. At present anyone can ride a bike on the road or a cycle path without any knowledge of the Highway Code, some of who are a bloody liability. When I was in senior school in the mid 60’s you had pass the proficiency test to be able to ride your bike to school. 6. Whilst cycling offences can’t result in penalty points being put on a driving license a court can apply a ban for any serious offences. That could include reckless riding or riding under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Good advice about wearing a helmet. Came off my bike on a cycle path in London cracking my helmet on a kerb in the process. I had a headache for a day but expect it would have been far worse with no helmet on.

How old do I need to do to take a c4t test