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To do that I recommend using a 60 pt top loader. It gives you a little more space to get the double sleeved card inside.

They should as long as they are standard 3x4 cards. The x-men cards I can think of all would fit.

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Platinum have single cast frame and nicer rounded corners instead of the diagonal (ish) cut corners.

It's is up to you if you want to use a brand new box or the box it came in. We use extra tape on all corners and edges of the box we send out, and believe its safe to send your cards in that box with the internal packing described in the instructions. Our instructions are based on PSA guidelines but designed to work with any grading company. For example, PSA recommends securing the cards with the pieces of cardboard on both sides and then rubber bands around the cardboard. Many of us cringe when thinking of using rubber bands that close to our cards. That's why we recommend and use 2x1 precut label tape. This complies with all grading companies and also keeps rubber bands out of the equation.

We reworked how we package this product after your comment and ALL card grading submission kits now come with a brand new exterior box to use for shipment. Thank you for your input and helping make our product even better.

Yes it is, that's why he didn't answer your question.

i also find thatif you tape the top of the top loader, there is no chance of it falling out and practically no movement.

Yes, especially if you use a thicker sleeve it doesn't matter if you use 75pt top loader to send one card as long as you either tape the top of top loader so that the card wont fall out or use saleable top loader sleeve which adds some extra protection from moisture etc. when you ship cards.

Superior fit innovations has top loader sleeves to protect the toploader from being scratch or the card slipping out. Kinda like putting a graded card sleeve on a psa holder.

Believe it or not, I've only had an issue with toploaders being bent with Ultra Pro. I've bulk ordered 1000's of CBG and had no issue @Spartan-P0351

@@Kybone thanks!

Good question, I do discuss Card Saver 2 in the video. Card Saver 1 & Card Saver 2 hold the same standard size cards. Card Saver 1 has an oversized lip for easier insertion. So, I don't carry or use the Card Saver 2.

card savers have been around since way before grading. Cards can fall out of top loaders if dropped or during transport

@@9ramthebuffs9 i find that if you tape the top of the top holder tightly there will practically be no movement or chance of it falling out.

Card savers are preferred when shipping to grading because the card saver hugs the card more than a toploader preventing moving or falling our while shipping. If storing for personal top loader with team bag is best imo.

Actually card savers are better for shipping in a pwe cuz they’re more flexible and they’re thinner than a top loader. But I’ve sent cards to both Beckett and psa and used top loaders and never had a problem 🤷‍♂️

I don’t have experience with those, I’m sorry.

Yes, I have seen that as well. Both brands offer “thick” top loaders which you could potentially put more than one card inside. I don’t know if that will truly protect the cards well though I’m a little scared of that method. Personally, for shipping I would use a Card Saver 1 with cardboard on both sides. I have another video where I compare a top loader with a Card Saver if you want to check it out.

If you put enough card board around it, It will protect the cards. All depends how many cards sending out.

I believe they were the Cardboard Gold standard soft sleeves. That’s what I usually use and they are a good fit. Not too loose but not too tight.

Sorry to hear that, was it just one pack of top loaders or many? I have seen one out of every few cases have that issue with any brand. We try to do quality control and not send those to customers but they can be easily missed and I think some sellers just send whatever they have without looking.

They have bend to them so you need to use cardboard or something else hard on both sides if you are shipping them. In my experience cards are safe in a card saver when stored in a box. The benefit to using them for shipping and why grading companies prefer, if not require, them over top loaders is that cards do not move around in a card saver the way they can in a top loader.

Yes as stated in the video, Card savers do not damage cards. I have all my high end cards in them savers #2 actually to fit a box I made. I’ve prepped them to ship out to grade in the future. Im just waiting for someone to invent a box holding 500 graded cards and a way to organize by sport. Im currently using tall dividers which also work.

@@danfredrickson6653 Yes, good storage boxes for a lot of slabs can be hard to find. BCW makes a Graded Card Shoe Box which holds 100 graded cards. I prefer the locking briefcase style boxes for slabs but they are expensive.

BCW sells them on their website and you can also find them on Amazon. The boxes with two rows are called shoe boxes and then they make bigger ones with 4 rows called monster boxes.

Yes, it can also flatten cards with some curvage to them like what happens w/ Topps Chrome.

In my experience a card holder like a top loader or card saver will form to the card rather than the other way around, so I wouldn’t worry about a slight bend in the holder.

The last few orders of top loaders from Amazon have come warped for me. It's usually the last few top loaders in the pack. Very disappointing. But overall, I prefer top loaders to Card Savers.

I don’t notice much difference in clarity. The big difference is the weight and thickness of the plastic.

@@goldsmithcards Ok thank you did you have a preference difference between ultrapro premium vs BCW?

Sorry for the delay, I like the ultra pro premium over BCW.

You can find them on Amazon

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That definitely does happen sometimes with any brand of top loader. These are thin pieces of mass produced plastic so you can get one that will split open, but its not extremely common. Using the Ultra Pro Premium top loader would mostly prevent that because they are made from thicker plastic.

@@goldsmithcards Haha really? I needed some toploaders, never bought them before so i went with ultra pro premium. 3 of them already broke, and the cards are really loose inside. I had other toploaders from different sellers on ebay, and they all were better than these “premium” toploaders, the cards didn’t move inside of it, and never broke. I could use them over and over again never did they break. While NEW ultra premium’s are breaking for using the first time. I’m trying to find the brands of those good quality toploaders, ultra pro toploaders are cheap, never buy them again

I’m so sorry you are dealing with that. Did you buy from me? We offer free returns or in your case most likely would offer free replacement. I have never had an ultra pro premium break on me. Regarding the movement, depending on the card thickness you may want to try cardboard gold top loaders because they are a tighter fit. Thinner cards will fit a lot better and not move around.

I have now bought and used about 8k cardboard gold top loaders and 2k pro safe. Both are very good, but prefer cardboard gold. Had only 2 or 3 split a bit at the top. Had about 50 that had a slight bow in them. Enough to notice. I saved allot of money going with cardboard gold over ultra pro, especially with the volume I used. I inspected all of them and the clarity was very similar and the manufacturing was very similar. To the point that I wonder if both card board gold and ultra pro are run at the same Chinese factory.

​@@whooch9318 I have various point size topoaders and sleeves for standard cards 75pt and less. Then the up to 130pt sleeves. Sleeves I've used from Ultra Pro are the best. BCW has a filmy substance that eventually climgs to the card. I haven't had a card get damaged from that but I don't like the "wet look" spots just sleeved or in a top loader. BCW I'll use top loaders in the thicker sizes and some are sizes Ultra Pro doesnt make. Almost every paper thin 35 pt and less are the regular topoader, Bowman paper basic or vintage cards. Most other cards, like Bowman Chrome and Topps Crome go perfect in 55pt top loaders. Next is various thickness from Flawless or NT. Those get 130pt and up, I believe 360pt is top size in loaders. Anyway, I hope you've had good luck since you commented around 8 months ago.

Wdym is it better?

@@marydunmire6291 I don't think it would fit in one never tried myself