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I haven't tried it yet, so it's tough to say. I am curious to try it out, it is a notoriously broken card after all, but I'm also not sure what to cut - the list is pretty tight - or if it's even what the deck needs. Good shout though! 🙂

Thanks man, I'll try to also bring some bo3 content 🙂

Yes absolutely in my experience.

Great comment, thanks a lot 🙏🙂

Yeah it does heavy lifting that's for sure.

I'm the exact opposite lol

Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it 🙏

You're welcome and than you for the feedback, appreciate it 🙏

Yes it's a mistake. The list in the description is the correct one.

Thanks man, really appreciate the kind words 🙏. More coming soon 👌

Just join the dark side to push the ban sounds like a plan 😅 I'm still curious about how much of an actual ban-worthy problem it will be, as we're getting a lot of interesting stuff added to the format with MH3, that could potentially thrive in a scam meta (I have a video comming up about a shell I think could have a favorable scam match up, and still be reasonable against the rest of the field. Regardless of whether or not we see early bans, we're definitely gonna see a lot of scam! 🙂

Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! You're missing the fact that there very much is BO3 in Timeless 😅

@@ceaselessmtg i see now, only in Ranked

Thanks man 🙏 Glad you enjoyed it 🙂

I‘m new to MTG and exclusively play commander with my friends. I currently have the Dihada precon, it‘s bone-stock but good enough to pull face to face with my friends‘ decks. I really don‘t like planeswalkers in commander and Jodah peeked my interest, I don‘t know why but the card just rings to me. So because that precon is an already decent legends-matter beatdown shell, maybe I could upgrade it into a Jodah legends-matter midrange list that might perform better? Do you have any advice on this commander?

Ah yes you're right. The visual overview of the deck in the video is a bit sloppy, but if you click the link in the description you'll get the right numbers. Thanks for pointing it out 👍

Thanks. Why do you think that? I could maybe see your point with the Soulsisters deck (although I think people are underrating the new Sorin), but Affinity not having Bauble seems like a pretty significant difference.

@ceaselessmtg my logic is that the decks you're going to face against are going to be drastically higher power level in timeless vs historic and I don't think these deck are utilizing timeless specific cards well. I agree with you bauble may be a pretty significant downgrade, but the replacement options for what you'd play against in historic seem pretty appealing (spring leaf drum would probably be my choice). I do think affinity might play really well in timeless but I still am skeptical about soul sisters (love these lists though).

@@GeneralCanada I see your point. You gotta factor in the completely new MH3 cards like Sorin, Ocelot and Guide of Souls, of which we have about 0 data about, in terms of how they would perform in Timeless. And even though the deck is more or less fully Historic legal, you also can't necessarily draw conclusions about it's viability in Timeless, as those formats are vastly different. So in this case specifically, Sorin's -1 seems better as a way to finish the game in a fetchland format, full of Reanimate and Death's Shadow.

@@ceaselessmtg really good point, I think I've been underestimating the new sorin (or the flip walkers in general).

Yeah they synergize neatly. Thanks man, I'll start posting Timeless Gameplay content when mh3 drops 👌

Sure man. It's probably just gonna be in small numbers, like we see in modern. 🙂

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Thanks! That's awesome! What are you looking forward to trying out? 🙂

My Kenrith stuff of legends deck has odric and Jodah as hidden commanders

Agreed. I think if you can manage to build a mana base where you get to play Ugin's Labyrinth, without everything else being too awkward, we could have a deck that's explosive enough to fight through those decks, but that's the challenge. Did you watch my video about Scam in Timeless btw? 🙂

@@ceaselessmtg I did! We'll see what shell fits scam best, but looking at modern's example I feel like rakdos scam has the most pieces to dominate.

Thanks a lot man! 🙏 Will do!

Thanks 🙏 I think that I would for an Eldrazi Stompy shell with Chalice to be a thing, although in reality Labyrinth is not gonna be enough to sustain it. We need at least one of either Eldrazi Temple, Eye of Ugin or just actual Ancient Tomb. And I think it's to say whether or not you could play Devourer of Destiny in affinity. It's more consistently gonna be able to hit Labyrinth on t1, but at the same time you're lowering your artifact count, and I don't think you can do a lot of that before you end with a net negative in terms of overall consistency.

@@ceaselessmtg more sol lands would be great. Its a shame there are no new eldrazi/devoid spells in black but maybe theres a BGx eldrazi deck that uses dark ritual to power out chalice and TKS. I just want chalice to be a thing in timeless - stompy builds especially 8cast/patchwork stompy are my jam in legacy when i get a chance to play it.

Thanks a lot 🙏

True, it might be the case that access to potent card advantage cards like Treasure Cruise could out a damper on scam decks. Although, like I mentioned, it's the top deck in Legacy at the moment, which is a format with a lot of degenerate stuff going around.

@@ceaselessmtg it's curious to see how the format shapes up :)

@@ceaselessmtg I’ve been playing now. I was wrong. Broken Card Advantange doesn’t change much, because you just put it into your scam decks too. I have 38-5 from combined from two lists. One is UB Scam powered by Treasure cruise and flare of denial. The other deck is BW scam powered by Necro

Yeah buddy. Det begynder at gå stærkt nu. Har snart en video mere klar!

Like it's not just good for the obvious reason, satoru works with efemorate and no evoke and means your evoke works in satoru but no efemorate situations unlike recruiter (and similar) not doing anything to make your evokes unfair, in this way I find it hard to believe WB will be better then WUB in terms of grinding

True, Satoru could be good in a dimir shell for sure.

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 🙂

Well, it is an expensive luxury hobby, that's for sure.

Sure Fable is a good card, I still just think that the other versions I talk about in the video seem more appealing atm. I might be wrong though.

That sounds like an interesting shell for sure. Hadn't considered Tamiyo in a Scam shell, but you raise a lot of good points. Snacker actually looks really appealing as well, now that you mention it. Thank you for sharing your thoughts 🙏

True. And like I said, I might be wrong about rakdos. I totally grant that.

I have to disagree on that one. Omniscience does nothing if you don't have cards left in your hand.

@@ceaselessmtg It does happen, in my experience it's about 90% win if that card lands. I've stolen a few with burn decks .

@@ericfudurich7944 My point is, that Omnitell is gonna struggle against scam, since their hand well be picked apart. Leyline of Sanctity is probably the best answer, but that card does nothing to further the combo plan, and if you mulligan after it, you're gonna be down cards anyway.

@@ceaselessmtg agreed scam will be a major issue going forward.

Glad you enjoyed it, I'm all about that viewer experience 👌

Sounds awesome man! And thanks a lot, glad you liked it! What do you think about Psychic Frog?

I’m going to try it! Being able to pitch it to grief and subtlety, sac to flare of denial and get reanimation targets in the yard should be good enough.

Not fully convinced about the pile you describe, however I agree that Merfolk are indeed starting to look solid.

Yes it is! Actually it's the deck I play the most atm 🙂

@@ceaselessmtg you have a link?

Thanks a lot, much appreciated and glad you enjoyed the video! You might be correct about the scam vs rhinos match up. I'm not really an expert in that format. I can see how you're actually in an okay spot when you can always just topdeck a single card that more or less wins you the game. That said, I still think that scam is gonna have a favorable match up against omnitell, as that deck typically needs multiple spells in their hand to actually do something with Omniscience.

A strategy build around disrupting your opponents hand before they get a chance to play game. Grief + Reanimate is the core of the deck.

Should add it was called scam specifically because the original deck used undying evil and ephemerate so you could double dip the ETB and scam the evoke clause.

@@Enja_Near I think you missed to mention the card that is flickered?

Haha I kind of agree. Although I do hope they release an anthology to introduce some of the needed tools to balance a format with evoke elementals, such as Force of Will for example.

Thanks a lot, appreciate it! I agree, although it was more of an effort to keep the video on topic and easy to watch. The video could also easily have been 3x as long. But you're right both Domain Zoo and DS are for sure relevant players in the metagame.