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me nodding agreeably at every point

This made me laugh so hard, I’m so happy I found this video 😄🙏

What other Donna Tartt book do you recommend?

I had forgotten all about Hanna's season 2 black dress--it slAys so bad! I'd wear it tomorrow!

Thank you for this video! Fashion is one of my top highlights/aesthetics importance & enjoyment I get when watching films💜

I have watched my countless hours of PPLcontent. You are the first one to mention that they lived in Eastern PA, and there was never winter, never snow, never cold weather on that show.

EYE would never be in forks so why would ANY english person be in forks 😭

please do the hunger games

Lost boys is one more movie that deserves a spot in this video. Lost boys and queen of the damned actually have similar 80s punk /alt fashion vibes.

Quality video. Very well-researched. Instant subscribe!

hi! i'm so late to this video, but do you mind linking the articles you mention around minute 4 if you still have them around?? i can't find them myself (I'm a fashion student planning to make a collection surrounding this concept and want to read everything I can lol)

Interesting video. You did miss a few steps, though; Dracula went through a whole series of costumes in the 50s-70s with the amazing Christopher Lee, where Dracula had a more Edwardian look. Nosferatu made a return with Klaus Kinski in 1979, & even Lestat got a makeover in the 2002 film Queen of the Damned; where he is a leather-clad rocker. There's also the 1987 film The Lost Boys, where the gang has a very rebellious & dishevelled look. As for Twilight, the Volturi clan dress VERY differently to the Cullens & might even be described as Corporate Goth. Vampire fashion is a delicious subject!

If TSH ever became a movie, it would've been a short one. Richard keeps describing every little thing, and that would be near impossible to transcribe into a movie. And honestly, most of the charm from the TSH comes from its writing, because the plotline, in on itself, is not anything revolutionary

Donna Tartt is beyond iconic; she’s out here existing in the world like she DIDN’T write a book that defined a genre and that everyone who has ever written a dark academic novel ISN’T trying to emulate it ?????? I adore her ❤ 🙏

unfortunately I think the beginning of a movie would have to be romanticized because that's part of the way the story itself functions. As the story leads you towards the night of the murder, so much of Richards view of his friends is portrayed in this idealized drifty gaussian blur. he's looking at their moneyed privilege lives spent pursuing this 'noble' ideal of knowledge and hes so desperate to be part of that life. he has so much self loathing for his middle class identity. its only with the cold water of Bunny's death that he starts to see just how rotten and twisted their disconnection from regular life has made them. You have to romanticize those hazy days at the country house and dinners with the twins because the point of the story is how much Richard is viewing them through his own desire to be them, and then you need to take that and poison it, make it horrific. But inevitably, as you're saying, what we'd actually end up with is a bunch of fancams of new tumblr sexyman Henry or people in shipping wars over Francis/Charles/Richard. it would be a disaster.

Not you saying I need to clean my room… ur right but like still the audacity 🤣🫶

I don't think it would work as an adaptation anymore solely because it's now a cult classic, and that means people are going to bitch and complain about inaccuracies regardless of how well done the movie/series is. Look at the recent Percy Jackson show. It's a pretty good series and adaptation, but because it's such well beloved book for nearly two decades, the fanbase reacted rather negatively to it and it's changes. The story will always be more enigmatic in people imaginations, especially ones that have been allowed to run wild for so long. TSH is already a story which requires great care to adapt, and the fact that so much of the draw of the book is in it's atmospheric writing, means that it's nearly impossible to do a medium to medium adaptation in a way that retains it's original magic. Richard as a character is rather subdued and quiet, more analytic and observational that participatory. It makes him a great narrator, but in a movie, with no access to his internal monologue he just becomes this quiet mysterious attractive kid, rather than the deceptively simple man we're presented with in the book. The Hunger Games prequel movie/book(Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes) runs into a similar issue due the erasure of it's mc's internal monologue. Snow starts to come off as sympathetic and genuine in his efforts because we don't see his internal thoughts that clearly show how manipulative he is about his actions and how they come off. It's one thing in BOSAS and PJO, with their more blatant and simplistic/digestible themes and action thriller premise, but with a story like Secret History, which is much more character driven, and one which requires you as a reader to actively critically engage with it, a mistaken understanding can lead to wildly inaccurate interpretation of the central themes of the book. It's going to Lolita itself and honestly, I'd rather not.

personally i think that the secret history was nothing else then a slightly romanticized (by the author or the reader, not by the story itself) critique. it sorts of reflects the reader, who can choose which route to take in their interpretation. for me, it was a fascinating story about a group of people that are absolutely horrible, and I can’t see myself like them in the same categories I like actual people. it’s like I despise them, but love the way they were written, love the way someone could write something so devastating that the fact that characters were horrid somehow made the book more interesting. I see no point in romanticizing their way of living, and I only found out it was one of the favorite books of dark academia aesthetic after I read it. while there’s nothing wrong in enjoying an aesthetic, I think it’s important to read a book critically, to see all the depth of the story. that’s why I absolutely agree it shouldn’t become a movie.

I think even ignoring the themes and the culture surrounding it, structurally it would only really work as a book. So much of the Secret History is split into small encounters: parties, dinners, conversations between the Greek class, Richard monologuing, etc. The descriptions are also highly detailed (both in the visuals and in Richard's emotions) and like to linger on seemingly innocuous details. In a book this is really compelling because it tells you all these subtle things about the world and cast, and it's more realistically structured than if it was strictly linear, since these guys are living their lives around the murder and not just deadset on it. But then I feel like as a film or miniseries this kind of structure would be extremely boring and meandering. Films have expected lengths, episodes are expected to drive the plot forward in every scene, but a book can be as long as it wants - it can afford to keep all the little details that a film would typically consider filler and cut out to focus on the actual story

lol this is two years old- but here I am ❤

Philip Green is not a good example of capitalism - he's very much a failed "captain of industry" as he allowed his own selfishness and greed to come before his businesses (he also saw the demise the BHS - another long established British high street firm).

As someone who works in the film industry, I believe strongly that diversity, inclusivity and colour casting is utterly destroying the art of film making. This book is a modern classic and as such any aspirations of a film would be best left a hundred years before being re-visited.

“Anyway this is her death dress” lmao.

hey u! i want to write a paper on fairy core and its political background and just wanted to let you know this is super useful and thank you for making this :) will be quoting u. have a great day!

Add a Freddy mask and a garden sheer glove to that green striped hoodie and it elevates it to 'Baseball scene' status. 😂😂

thank you for your in-depth explanation <3 luv u

sorry for commenting on a 2 year old video but omggg your outfit is everything !!!!

i desperately want to adapt this book into a mini-series. i honestly think that if tartt’s work is to be adapted, we need to wait until even the mainstream viewer can look back on dark academia with a critical lens. also imo the adaptation should really lean into the weird shit.

Entertaining and informative thank you!

i don’t think people have the critical thinking skills to be allowed access to the secret history 😭😭😭

I feel that Ms. Tarrt gradually draws us into disliking, then hating Bunny. As in the novel, Bunny becomes "rehabilitated" after his murder, and all references to him reveal a smarter young man, actually loved. The ugliness of his family elevates Bunny as a Greek student, as a presence.

if tsh did ever get made into a book, it simply wouldnt work. one of the reasons is because the ONLY way the scene with richard getting money and going on a shopping spree could be adapted is a cheesy romcomesque montage 😂

Enjoyed every second of this video! 💕

I am so in love with fairycore and sometimes cottagecore ❤ i bought a fairycore dress and a fairycore cardigan from romwe and i am in love😂

Lmao girl unrelated to pll but I hated Vanessa too 😂

Yes, please do them.

What is the movie or movies used that seem to take place in a museum?

"but why is she dressed as a chaperone of her graduation party" lmaooo she is so plain mom sometimes, apparently because Stephanie Meyer is a Mormon and covering up is like, a given I think. Explains so much (especially the weird sexual chasteness lol)

'she's 18, why did that start dressing her like a mum?" i mean.....you know....teen pregnancy stays on that grind

Omg you should do this for the movie Thirteen. Always thought it had good 2000s fashion

this is a truly definitive list, no misses, and i'm definitely hoping for a pt. 2!!

Blue filter was the directors idea Katherine hardwick a true visionary

I wouldn't mind a film but I agree it might not be the best idea. I would hate if they dumbed it down to fit 2020s morals, though. Real life isn't pretty, shitty people exist who make awful comments and have horrible ideologies. Trying to make things fit queer ideology because we would be the main public would ruin the entire plot and purpose of the book.

Now THIS is a video for ME..

Omggg bringing back all I wore in high school😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 this needs to stooooop

The blue prom dress was horrible. Looks like a cheap Deb dress. And in the book Alice got her a delicate blue dress from Paris or something. Like it should be high fashion.

I'm gen-Z... I now know how the millennials feel when people describe their childhoods as if it was the late 1800s...

You're right, i did love it.

Film makers nowadays are just not good and only think about inclusivity and other stuff that doesn't matter to the plots of movies and only care about money and not art, and only hire nepo babies.