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Game Dying So Hard They Just Giving out V BS bahaha shame.

Because blue squadron

i have quited because of DPS meter flamers

yes, pretty much gave up on jump start week 1 because of cards

I was just coming back to the game and was like wtf are these jump start servers and why would i start there when all my collectibles aren‘t migrated aswell. Great explenation and helpful video/insight! Literally agreeing with everything you said. Gona continue my journey on my main server. Thanks for the vid!

New player here... Being gatekept suck :) Been stuck with 1490 for 2 days already, spent 3 hours yesterday, 5 hours today looking for brel gate 1-2, got nothing i either got kicked, or just rejected from parties. No learning raid whatsoever Spent hours watching video on yt memorizing the mechs, patterns, everything. Idk, it's just hard for me, im playing the game alone, like the game so far, but it is what it is i guess. Can't even "git gud" because i cant even fking enter the fucking raid :)

I've been playing, quitting and coming back to BDO since before it was available in the West for all the reasons you so eloquently described here.

great video 👍

I liked the original launch classic too but SoD is definitely better. Enjoying it much more like you. Good analysis. Priest is definitely overpowered this phase if you want to heal.

Well, it is true that it doesnt feel good to move to a new server where your account progress is inexistent if you are a returning player. But on the other hand the mokoko express and being able to get 1415 with progress nerfs and a lot of free honing materials makes possibly to progress through all raids without countless days of grinding. My friends and I made a 8-man roster and we all went into a jump start server with mokoko express just to experiment the raids, and they are quite fun. It is obvius that we are all going to uninstall the game at some point between 1490 - 1540 becase from that point up the grind starts again and goes harder and harder. In general I think its a good idea but would be much better if we could do it in our main servers where we had some account progress already.

I haven't played WoW in years but SoD has been great. Took me longer than most I think to finally hit 25 but shaman has been really fun. It just feels kind of weird to me right now that druids have windfury and I don't as a shaman lol. I know we get it next phase but it still is kind of weird to me to have a class defining skill be on another class when we don't have it.

As a warlock tank myself I must agree warlock has been great and getting meta was awesome. I am worried about endgame tanking viability though. As spellcasters our main skills are fire and shadow spenders and with so many bosses having fire resist or imunities and some even shadow I'm not sure how we can be taken over physical tanks. I hope they make some changes to resists later but who knows maybe it will work out. A lot of caster classes are currently effected by resists and immunities. SoD has been super fun over all though good vid.

gatekeeping arc kek.

I tried this game and had a good time but I couldn't stand the enhancement system. I could tell there was some pay to win involved but this breaks it down nicely into perspective for someone who didn't get deep into the game.

I quit in like 2020 I believe. Recently came back because the devs seems to have fixed most of the issues I had with the game. Mad respect.

first. amazon is probably the worst company with the least clue about mmorpgs, and they show each new game the release again and again. when i stopped playing cuz the game sucked there were the same issues as now: -ppl dont give a fuk in raids and join without knowing anything, meaning u cant clear raids cuz ppl are idiots who dont wanna prepare even a bit -> this leads to the meta which forces ppl to only take overgeared characters for raids, cuz if u have the dmg u can ignore mechanics. also some things are just plain and simple dead... guardian raids ... noone does em anymore ever. bots i dont know, there was a huuuuge prob, but now i cant tell since i havent leveled a new char atm and most bots were in starter zone. - upgrading gear was trash and is trash, takes THE WHOLE fun out of the game having to up ur gear 1 lvl each for a new raid. this mechanic is awful, bad implemented and only there to grab as much cash from people as they can. predatory shit. - time... other trash games measure success by time ingame spent... aka known as diablo 4. this game does this prob aswell, there is a fukton of gatekeeping by time, and you will have to invest even more time to gear. raids itself dont take long (garbage story lines do, or searching 1 000 mokoko seeds...fuck that).... so if u play anytime when theres NO event, u will hate the game cuz the core is trash. during events on the other hand u get gear for one char mostly super fast with zero effort, there is no balance in between. raids itself are cool, look good, have nice mechanics and okayish rewards. story hoewever is just plain and simple dogshit and whoever wrote the story and calculated how much time u have to spend to finish it should be fired instantly. so... u play lost ark to raid and kill bosses, its simple. without the trash up system and no story it could be a decent game, not a great one but a decent.

3 big Problems in LostArk 1.Gold ( if u delete Gold u have a beter chance and more fun ) 2.u need to more than 1 class to play this game ( many of many people gone and say he want to play 1 class and not 20 classes ) 3.content is limited ( u need more than 1 class to play more than 1x raid or dungeons this is a problem )

It's not really an MMO. It's an online raid game. You just see other people in hubs so you can see how much they swipe and got max out equipment.

Content is trash community is trash amazon is trash. Lots of reason not to touch this pile of crap

I just wish i could move my whole roster, characters etc to another server. When i started playing at launch (actually 3 days before cuz i purchased founder pack) i picked random server on EU central called Wei. After some time it turned out that this server is mainly spanish oriented for some reason. So playing on this server is pain cuz the most populated guilds are spanish. Another pain in the butt is that when i try to find guild and i get into one turns out that members of that guild are just leader's alts lol so for example "members" are 40/100 and 15 of that is just alts, 10 other players and rest was active like month or more ago.... i just feel that this server is dead idk correct me if i'm wrong but that's how i feel on that server.

I'm a returnee player should i start with the jump start server? i have 2, lvl 50 char in my original server with a ilvl gear 1250 + 1 vern pass?

pretty reasonable, but gatekeeping is not the problem per se, if you dont gatekeep as veteran u will literally waste your time. there are alot of player organised learning groups on several discord servers with vets teaching new players for no benefits except friendships. this is an mmo so players shouldnt wait for the silvertablet invitation to solve their problems but take initative and look for guilds, friends, discords, where they can form groups to learn the different encounters.

"The game is thriving but why?" Because this is one of the best MMORPG out there in almost every aspects. The P2W aspects, while there, are way overblown by people who don't actually even try to play the game (Like Asmongold) and their stubborned denialism won't change that actual players enjoy the game despite all the disinformation spread around, because the people who actually play the game knows that it's disinformation. The disinfo won't pull actual players away and new players who actually give a shit for an honest and critical play of the game will stay, learning that most criticism are plain lies. Yes, you can spend thousands on outfits for crons to try to upgrade your gear. But since you're not even guaranteed to get anything even by spending thousands, only the whales and unwise addicted gamblers spend on such gambling while most players buy their stuff in the marketplace for silvers and make wise permanent purchases in the pearl shop, enjoying the game for what it is. Pearl Abyss are doing weekly updates, taking care of the game, making it better continuously while others are staying in their echo chamber of lies, misinformation and disinformation. As simple as that.

BDO represents the Koreans. Koreans use extreme make up so people think they are beautiful/handsome(even guys make up) but when u remove make up they are ugly as hell. This also same for the game, they just put new content in it but they don't even care how that makes the game more unbalanced and bugged. There are tons of problems like desync, ping, lag, virtual issues, crashes, layers but since the game looking very good from the outside because of the possibilities and landscape it attracts new people constantly while old players leaving slowly. And the reason old players are resisting to leave bdo is because it became a part of their lives and they become addicted to it. They just don't want their efforts to be vanish and this forces them to continue and put much more effort in it. It is a poison that slowly kills them from the inside...

I havent played lost ark in forever. Such a pretty game tho. The pay 2 win crafting system was a deal breaker for me.

the MAIN issue with js server atm, is that it is not connected to main servers AH, which makes it basicly impossible to raise alts to progress, on top of that, current engraving support ends, before any news about a potential merge Cant find ANY info about them saying merge will happen after 3 months, rather, that they will announce when it happens, in 3 months

Set gold on All legion raids the same, and do smthing about alts... nobody wants to play 100 alts to be relevant

I returned after quitting in February, the game has still the same issues. It’s just a little better but not enough in the slightest

As is tradition with AGS, this whole thing isnt realy thought through. They either have to go full in on seasons, like Black Desert, so people stay on the season servers instead of going to to their old oens after a week. Or they make them exlusively for new players and let them merge whenever they want into the old servers. Purely as a jump start.

Choice (a bdo streamer) went from season gs 550ish to 700+ in a few months, yes he grinded 10hours a day, but he showed its pretty easy to get to end game in 6ish months, i cant name one MMO that isnt a grind and just gived you everything straight up. The game was pay to win maybe like 2 years ago? Now its really not. Anyone that compains about this game is just dookie at MMo's and doesnt want to put the effort in.

Mostly i agree however was game where was no gate keeping due to sick requirements or stupid mechanics and team wipes , was called VINDCTUS .unfortunately they did not had pity system for enhancing (honning) and that make this game go to drain, plus nexon who is bad game publisher.

I think you hit the nail on the head pretty much, except for one thing which concerns the "rewards for teachers" segment. There has to be some kind of proof or measurement in place to qualify as a "teacher". Just clearing a raid say x10 doesnt qualify anyone since no one knows how they cleared it. They could have been lying dead on the floor through each of 'em. My point being is, lots of people that have less than sufficient knowledge about the raid would queue in hope of getting the rewards whilst once again jailing each other. There has to be some proper measurement, Im not sure how it could be done.

I often feel like the niche games are the ones that end up being the best. The big popular ones that go for the catch all approach get lots off players but often don't really excel at any one thing in particular.

Still waiting for them to add a 4th optional sub at this point rofl.

The problem with Lost Ark was never the start, it was always what came after. As these really don't do anything to deal with the "after" part, I just don't see these as having a lasting benefit. Then they're not going to address the issues in the "after" part so long as enough people are still willing to spend money. Also given how long it has been going on, even if everyone mass quits in ever region, SmileGate likely will just shrug their shoulders, announce its shut down, then move on to their next project.

One thing Amazon forgot is to compile all the quest rewards sadly.

I play on the main servers since release and after checking out the jump start, I was shocked to see how bad it is. 3 months to merge is still too long. They need to boost those mokokos a lot more and merge them after 2 months. They need to quit adding rng to stuff for mokokos. All the new cards packs feel so pointless if they are all trash rng to get a legendary card. Whats the point of that? Mokokos bust their little butts to get 50 packs so 99% of it is purple packs. Nonsense.

Adding more to do is not something I want and now the only things I “have” to do each week is 4 Akkan runs and I treat everything else as extra or gold earning activities and only do them if I want to. I am holding out hope that 2024 in KR sees a full reset not set on raids to reset the player base (except maybe cards).

I thought I could create a new caracter in the jump start server and transfer it eventually to my main rooster server, but I think it does not work this way lol.

I used the jump start to do one thing only: I made an artist to see if I would like it. I did. Then never logged in to the server again. Like you said, my response to come back and do horizontal content was "Fuck right off". Lost Ark has and will ALWAYS have a huge player retention issue because it tries to force you to play all day. That means burn out. The way I think I'll be playing the game is every time there's an express pass, I'll hop in, use it on my one character then gtfo once i've burned it out. Fun game that's gated by the game, the community, and my time.

Really agree with all the points in this video. I can totally understand why the Jump Start doesn't quite make sense to the existing users since you lose all your accumulated assets in the game. As a new user myself, the biggest problem for me is to learn and practice the raids. I can learn them from watching CZcams videos, but I need to try at least several times to avoid being the man on the floor. Now, on the Jump Start server, I can get a 1500+ player quickly with all the proper engravings and decent gems. But now I'm still playing the Chaos dungeons, and trying to solo Guardian dungeons and that's it. Still the same in-game experience with my 250 character. The big number hits feel less meaningful as you think. I understand there could be reasons why there is no pure practice mode for those dungeons. I'm not sure if there is a way to provide incentives to experienced players so that they would like to help newbies learn in the raids. Whether the incentives are provided by the players (newbies) or the system, or both. Maybe throw in some challenges to players and see if they are good enough to be the teachers and once they've passed those challenges, then they are allowed to earn those incentives. And in this 'teacher-student' mode, players can have multiple lives to make sure they can finish the raid. And the raid can provide no or less rewards in the end based on how many lives that have been lost. And of course, there could be limits on how many times you can do this per week. If you want more, you can buy them as you want which is to me a more reasonable way to ask for money from players. Something like that to help new players at least have a chance to try the raids without being always defeated at the beginning. I don't think there are good reasons that it's better to make it harder for players to learn boss mechanics. Even you know all mechanics, you still need to execute (play) and to me that's fun enough.

Coming back to this to say that the economy/market is in fact pretty much in shambles on JS now. I'm not sure why having the market connected is a thing they decided would be a good idea.

Jumpstart server were made in mind of returning and new players, but this "returning" doesnt wrap all players probably just for whose that quit before Argos, if you were pretty active before and also you did a lot of horizontal or vertical, probably starting over (unless you want to) isn't a good way to come back to the game. These servers are for either returning or new players to start in the same boat to experience the game where the fun stuff begin which is great overall. I'm a veteran that have been playing the game since release (almost 5.5k hrs into), I invited some friends to play on the fresh start (most of them are returning) we are having a blast doing the content, learning and teaching the raid is quite fun. I also know how time taxing can this game be, so I tell them to take it easy, play what you want while doing progress (important horizontal stuff such as skill points, giant heats, omnium stars, tower and runes). Sadly this isn't the usual case for new or returning players, most of them play solo even tho this is an MMO where having/finding a guild, communicate and make friends are a vital part in these kind of games, also you could take this as an area that Lost Ark can implement solo content or horizontal content that has an impact on the vertical content. Regarding about "fixing" the current problem of gatekeeping that you mention, Lost Ark itself doesn't have any way or rewards to play with new players besides people willing to teach these new mokokos how to play or teach the raid. Amazon tried to incentive the community to gather on the official discord to do "mentoring" but its something that problaby the casual new audience won't bother to investigate or search, most of them will just play, this kind of system has to be in the game BUT it has to be something about "mentoring" than extra rewards by just playing with new people and that's because Bussing/RMT in Lost Ark, you have a lot of people who haven't tried bussing or don't like bussing (I'm here in this topic), where playing with new people or rather in this case new accounts can be a huge advantage for whose keep bussing like madlads on 6 or more characters, also you have people that sells their gold for personal purposes where Bussing have huge impact for those who keep doing this kind of stuff. This 'issue' haven't been touched by SG since they said Bussing is driven by players, but this can be so restrictive that you can't add these systems or any extra rewards for helpers, probably that's why SG haven't introduce it yet, but huge shout out to Amazon that tried to do it outside of the game systems, I've a strong belief that bussing will end up killing this game, rather than these kind of problems.

Game is fine...I'm a f2p player and it's fine, all you new age gamers just want the game to give you everything, no effort just reward.

In my humble opinion the biggest problem in gatekeeping is that one player can wipe the entire raid in one single mechanic when done wrong. There is nothing more frustrating when 7 players are dying and cant clear the content because one player is failing. My suggestion is to get rid of raid wipe mechanics and simply if mechanic is done wrong just kill the player who failed which leads to carry potencional, so veteran players can "carry new players"... Veteran players gets ego boost and new players clears the content and the more times they do it the better they get ... then theres no need to gatekeep anymore - win for both sides. And the difficulty can be raised in clever ways like Valtan where you can fall and die instantly. Which lead to more engaging content rather then having a homework of all raid mechanics.

I think one of the things that the game need is a practice mode for legion raids. Not knowing the fight is one of the biggest problem of the new and the returning players. I left out when vykas come out and is hard to learn the new raids like the clown or brelzhasa. Maybe a solo practice mode will be nice for the community

I used to play on the South America servers and I quit the game because finding groups was a nightmare due to the declining server population. I can't imagine how it would be on the jump start servers with even less people.

My take is that yeah; jump start isn't going to fix anything. Just a nice little publicity stunt. Nothing wrong with trying, but I think even they know it won't solve anything. It might just be a stopgap to at least get some people to try the game and interested in it, so when newer solutions start to flow in, they might be like "hey that game was fun despite it's issues, let's see if it's better feeling." Note: I said "some" people. I don't have any end-all-be-all solutions to throw out there, but I think cutting legion raids down to 4 players instead of 8 players would combat gatekeeping while still keeping the game multiplayer. I say combat because it won't ever disappear, but you want to lessen it. With fewer people, it'll take less time to make a party, less people to teach, less people needing to learn, less people worry about disappointing, and one less support to wait for. Might even make finding a static that much easier too. And for those who love 8 man party raids, they can still exist in hell/nightmare. Solo raids was an interesting idea, but I feel like it would make the game too single player driven. I almost feel like the game is a single player game, with how players act unless someone messes up doing their chores. So, I'm trying to spread the idea of 4-player parties to see if others like the idea too.

The best solution would be let players merge the jump start account with their existing one and combine all the horizontal content. This could be "abused" by veteran players being able to have a free character but... who cares? This is all about making new players keep playing

The only real solution is to have several ways/modes to get stuff like for final fantasy 14 for example. Let me explain for FF there are daily roulettes to get tokens, raids at 24, normal and external raids at 8, crafting, relics, etc... For Lost Ark, there is no than raids. Why not develop other ways to get stuff. I'm sure there would be a lot more players who would come and play the game.