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Emergency Landing at Duebendorf during WW II
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Emergency Landing at Duebendorf Airfield during WW II
B 17 Flying Fortress "HIGH LIFE"
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1st. US-Bomber emergency landing at Duebendorf Airfield Switzerland
US-Bomber "Repair-Shop" Duebendorf Switzerland
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US Bomber Repair Shop Duebendorf Switzerland
These historical B&W videos are so much better and more respectful without muzak. They aren’t Hollywood.
tough aircraft manned by even tougher men who flew into hell and back I hope we never have to call on present day snowflakes to do likewise to many are trying to be women
Thank! Brilliant
This is my uncle Captain Don Oakes’ plane. He is in the video walking towards the camera, giving a small wave.
I'm sorry to say, but I don't feel one bit sorry or remorseful for the bomber crews shot down and killed during the war. Fact is these crews killed hundreds of thousands of innocent men women and children. 80k alone killed in Cologne in one night not to mention the fire bombing of Dresden and the how many that died there. I had huge sympathy for Merchant seamen killed in WW2 but not these guys.
My father was the tailgunner on this flight. The plane crashed because they had completed a bomb run over Munich and had taken heavy flak that knocked out two engines. They were making for Switzerland and had lost another engine by this time, flying into heavy snow. The pilot, navigator, and bombardier made a heroic effort to keep the plane high enough so that my father and four other crew members could bail out and survive even though they were flying below the mountain tops. The copilot died when his chute didn't open. The three up front died when the plane crashed into the mountain during a white-out. Personally, I think the remaining officers knew they were too low to bail at that point and were flying by line of sight to try and get the plane out of the peaks and to a mountain lake for a ditch, which was probably their best hope. My father and three crew members were captured, interrogated, starved, force-marched hundreds of miles around Germany, and finally sent to a POW camp in Gross Tychow for nearly a year. The other crew member made it to interred neutrality in Switzerland for the rest of the war. That flight crew had flown 10 successful missions with that plane before that day, July 12th, 1944.
Only one more ridge and a glacier would have come into view for a possible landing.
The men of the of the bomber commands of both England and America had balls of Steel. They knew they were going to die,but still did their jobs. Incredible..
Вечная память всем погибшим в небе над логовом врага. И мирного неба выжившим.
Then these idiots encountered peace !
For what ever reason...Allied airmen were interned by the Swiss until the end of the war...so as to appease both the Allied and the Axis forces.
1:14 such faces are evidence…..
Kudos to the engineers who built the things.
I remember in 1988 strolling through a warbird museum restoration hangar at the former site of Forbes Air Force Base, near Topeka, KS. My family had been stationed there 25 years previously and it was my first time back. Scattered about the floor were various pieces, parts, wings, cowlings and engines of a B-17 flying fortresses, including the nose art that, although faded, was perfectly preserved. On the way out, I happened to spot a dusty ball turret off by itself in a dim corner. My father had told me that only very small airmen could squeeze into one and that even then they had to lie on their backs with their knees drawn back between the two Browning .50s. I walked over to get a closer look when I noticed something odd. Peppered throughout the rear door of the turret were many ragged 1-2 cm shrapnel exit holes, several large enough to reach through. The front side was facing away from me, but as I walked around, what I saw made my blood run cold. A 3 cm hole was blasted perfectly through the center of the flat circular bulletproof glass windshield. Evidently, a German 20 mm round had penetrated the glass, traveled between the gunner's knees before exploding right into his face. I can only imagine how the ground crew removed his body. That moment truly brought the reality of WWII air combat into focus for me.
Yes and the Krauts had the Deadliest 20mm ammo ever ! Look it up !
the swiss nazis treated these men worse than the german nazis ...
How to treat such low level guys ? At home, in the US, they have a weekly shooting !
Air crews of poor level. No surprise. Some of these bailed out over desert and believed they are over ocean. Not heroic - simply poor level !
3:18 at least this one got what he deserved
Let‘s hope the Swiss made the pay sufficiently for the internment of the cowboys.
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we are repaired in this shop if we're damaged or pregnant
Светлая память.
Hey Cobrajet, are you still out there ?
Not very neutral of Switzerland.
The US certainly had to pay for this ! Let‘s hope not too little.
2:30 rats chewing on the rudder.... again
Flak bait :D
Sadly not enough
War started by Uk and France on US advice, Must study history, www.history.com/this-day-in-history/britain-and-france-declare-war-on-germany#:~:text=On%20September%203%2C%201939%2C%20in,nation%20declare%20war%20on%20Germany.
bombing european cities with uk forge, be4 fascst after this , millions ppl dead in europe citizen who lived in that cities,
well you started it.
@@allanroser1070 no u dint know , started Uk and France on US advice, Must study history, www.history.com/this-day-in-history/britain-and-france-declare-war-on-germany#:~:text=On%20September%203%2C%201939%2C%20in,nation%20declare%20war%20on%20Germany.
@Peter Rogan the shame that Usa has done in Europe and in Japan is the same what did Hitler , and now we are slaves like under hitler if he will be alive, this war has done for few business men who want ruled the european world , in Usa ppl live under the bridge i don t need read book to learn that
@Peter Rogan in 2 days in Dresda Us airplanne kill 300 000 citizen en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
They are too stupid to comprehend this !
That one Liberatore had done 40 raids . Each bomb on its side denotes a raid. Imagine going out day after day 40 times , thinking each one is your last. Only to get shot down on the last one ! People died and where crippled for life in these aircraft !
Image the thousands of childern they plannet kill in the 40 raids !
It was the planes 41nd raid, most its first crew must have done their 30 mission tour and had been sent home. This was probably the 11 mission of this planes replacent crew.
@@wotan58 Sadly some of them got home. Let‘s hope the Swiss interned them into forced labour camps.
Interesting how you only think about the airmen (military personnel) and completely ignore the thousands of innocents women and children (civilians) killed by their bombs in those 40 raids...
@wotan58 some crews in the 15th Air Force did as many as 50 missions. They were stationed in Italy and didn't have the same requirements as the 8th Air Force based out of England. Even in the 8th, the mission requirements kept going up from 25, 30 and finally 35.
Were any of these allied plane shot by the Swiss?
Swiss aircraft also intercepted U.S. aircraft who were off-course, or whose crews preferred asylum in Swiss internment camps over German or Italian POW camps; they were then forced to land on Swiss airstrips. When the bombers did not cooperate or even fired at the Swiss (who were using Axis-type interceptors), they were shot down. Swiss Airforce also shot down Nazi planes.
Ditch the music and get some narration
Okay don't watch problem solved.
Thanks for all WW2 vets . we would be speaking German .
God forbid Americans gotta learn a single foreign language
@@Leon_der_Luftige nein
Or Japanese.......
So we didn't leave them all there!!!😀👍🇺🇸
all of them were covered in parking tickets
That's very good!Hi ftom France!
All that work, just so they could be flown back to the US and scrapped.
i think many were flown back to burtonwood for scrapping . its sad that almost nothing remains of what was once one of the biggest airfields in europe
Not all planes interned were shot up. Quite a few were deserters who voted to go to Switzerland to avoid being killed in combat. The crew makes up some story about problems with the plane then goes out of formation and lands....some went Swiss, some went to Sweden.
Back in the 70's I was teaching adult education. Not infrequently students were retired military. One was a retired USAAF / USAF officer. At the time I was reading about the history of European B-24 operations. Got to chatting with this guy and he told me his B-24 got shot up and he had to land at Duebendof. Told me the nose art on his bomber was a Buffalo crapping bombs... one for each mission. Couldn't believe it! That book I was reading had his story with a photo of that nose art. Brought it in for him to see. He had no idea.
I bet they were not well received in Switzerland! Allies were not as loved as the west’s propaganda leads people to believe.
@@lindanwfirefighter4973 While I realize its fashionable today for some folks (such as yourself) to denigrate just about anything and everything American, the B-24 pilot in my story said he was received well... the Swiss authorities even allowed the crews to patch up their bombers and fly them around locally to give them something to do, albeit with a Swiss officer, armed with a hand gun, aboard. That said, I am sure you know more about how allied flyers were received than someone who was actually there...
Switzerland has always followed the money. They did not want enemies on either side for that reason.. No reason to be obnoxious to allied flyers at all.
@@Riffer19 Your spot on. Their position was difficult and complicated. I.E, after 1942 they were a small country surrounded on all sides by Axis, (or Axis controlled countries) Germany, Austria/Hungary, Italy, and France. And to your point, my B-24 pilot also told me about how strange it was to be having a meal in a café where some tables contained members of the German military while other held allied personnel. He also told me the Swiss put his crew up in an Alpine Resort since, because of the war there were no tourist. Not exactly bad duty.
Nursing a crippled aircraft to safety and crashing or like some, in sight of it. Poor beggars.
Das islamistisch-verseuchte Allahmania bräuchte heute wieder Bombenteppiche! #FreeIsrael #CHintifada
@Peter Rogan Wallah Deutschland hat noch nie einen Weltkrieg begonnen, mitverantwortlich bei einem Europäischen Konflikt ja aber Weltkrieg nein. Wer erzählt so ein Mist lan !
Can only imagine the conversation with the ball gun turret gunner if he was still alive as the bomber he was in was making the approach as he of all crew members would know if the landing gear was down or not. In a B-17 belly landings meant death for many gunners.
If the barrels are pointing down he's probably out as l think the hatch is at the opposite side of the ball. The ball was electrically powered and had a mechanical override if power failed but it did happen that they could get jammed. The story of turret gunners dying in a wheels up landing is from a news crew covering 17's returning and it happened in front of them so naturally it made the news. I used to go fishing as a boy with a guy who was a turret gunner he said trains were his favorite. Said you start at one end and work your way up it. They'd be a few hundred feet above it you could see guys jumping off pieces flying. He said the feeling of having those two 50's beside you was something else. He did say the highest death rate was the tail gunner.
@@medler2110 If making a belly landing the pilot would try to get at least one wheel down if possible to give the ball some room.
This is not true. Read a book. Safest position. Usually out of the ball by landing approach.
@@graham2631 Believe the late Andy Rooney (of 60 Minutes fame) had it happen to him while he was assigned to the Stars & Stripes.
8th air force tallied only 7 deaths in ball turret in its entire fighting history. 4 were dead to enemy fire, 3 were crushed during landings. It was the only position equipped with a drain plug. Safest spot on the B-17.
The scrap metal business must have been booming in Switzerland during this time.
Da gabs dann wohl auch ne Menge Hundefutter.
Over 80 Bomb Raids to Switzerland Towns by the Allied !!!! Peter Haisenko ( LH Kapitän I.R. ) CZcams
Total badassery
I am figuring the Swiss were not too thrilled at this junk collection.
US Air Gangster, bombardierten auch"ausversehen" die neutrale Schweiz.
DASS WAERE GUT MOEGLICH!
Shut up, small weiner.
@@tomthx5804 Bomben auf US und A. Terroristenland. The world hate US and A.
Of course, the Germans never bombed Civilians....
@ghgg you’re kidding and delusional
It's not as great as this move makes it out to be, the planes still had human remains still in them splatter all over the place
OMG What caused this!?!? Did landing on Swiss soil cause those casualties? I'm sure those bombers that did make it back to Britain never carried back dead crewmembers. And why would the Swiss keep those human remains rotting in those aircraft after having landed?
@@AudieHolland Why would you think when someone on the plane was killed they weren't flown back with the rest of the crew? They most certainly were. The casualties remained on the aircraft and were offloaded upon returning to base when the mission was complete. I agree with you though, I highly doubt any remains were left on these aircraft to decompose. If that's the case. The original poster should list a source.
@@TR-Mead What I mean is, it's war, there's no difference in bombers returning to Britain or Switzerland, in both cases they have casualties on board. *I'm sure those bombers that did make it back to Britain never carried back dead crewmembers.* - this is called Sarcasm Have ever seen "Twelve O'clock High (1949)?" After a bomber has landed safely back in Britain, they evacuate the remains of a few crew members, including a severed arm (not shown of course).
@@AudieHolland Many bombers returning to England DID have dead crew members on board. Some waist gunners were decapitated by the 50 cal. machine guns from the enemy fighters. When the planes landed in England the body parts had to be removed and blood cleaned up. They never showed that in any movies.
@@dfirth224 *I'm sure those bombers that did make it back to Britain never carried back dead crewmembers.* AKA SARCASM
I was an AW2 Petty officer in the US Navy, we flew Lockheed P3-C Orion submarine hunters
That was amazing! Thanks
Так им и надо! Сколько детей своими бомбами поубивали!
@Peter Rogan не сказал наверное.
Can you imagine battling yourself back to base only to crash...Those were brave men
Unfortunately that is not quite true. They had no other choice they were scared shitless for they knew what was waiting for them. The planners finally figured it out that all you had to bomb was oil the rest was Of secondary importance. Then all of a sudden no fighters or much less but after 1943 the biggest killer B17s was flak and you didn’t need defensive guns against flak?
@@frankcorner8716 That is so true my friend,no oil and you have no luftwaffe,no panzers and no wermacht
scot irish Oil was always an important target but the planners spent too much time on ball bearings which if they had had a brain they. Should have left alone. They just bombed my ball bearing plant so now I will have to buy them. From SKF Sweden. You are telling me they did not know that. We lost one hundred four engine bombers on. That dumb
Mission
This was not the base. This airfield is in Switzerland .
grandfather pilot landed here around same time. Hit in Bombay Munich mission seconds after bombs dropped. Hit one fuel tank and tore hydraulic lines engine 3 taken out. Door gunners covered in fuel and hydraulics one missing skin on shinbone from shrapnel. Ditched all 50cal and ammo to make it over Alps. Bombay doors locked so Swiss air came up aggressively to escort. Hand signals told could not close. Landed on airfield ran out of fuel and hydrualics right at landing with nose wheel collapse in cornfield. My grandfather evaded after 4 months.
thor sorensen Amazing! Thank you for sharing.
thor sorensen Amazing! Thank you for sharing.
Cool my granduncle was one of the Battered Bastards of Bastoigne.
Many of these brave lads were just teenagers and all USAAF aircrew were volunteers with the exception of commissioned officers. It"s heartbreaking to watch when the pilots lose control just moments from a safe landing.
Taking a damaged bomber to Switzerland or Sweden was not unusual. I knew a B24 pilot who had the gas tanks shot up and was close to going to Sweden. Luckily, just the top and middle of the tanks had holes in them. So back to England.
MUSİC!
The Swiss paid dearly for its neutrality.