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Bobby Worthington is a phenomenal hunter , wealth of knowledge and an even better person . I could listen to him talk for days.

Love the show Joe. Hoping to order some Asio gear before season starts.

I don't even hunt but thought this was a real good test for those who do. Well done sir !!

Need to see the penetration at 50-60 yards. 20 yards is just to close.

😂 Speedo’s!!! There’s no limit to the left turns on this podcast!!!

Hate all this “I tried this and I was impressed” as a fairly new hunter it’s so hard to keep up with the amount of info that gets purported to be the new hot shit. I’m like oh I got make sure the moon is in the Aquarius phase in the 3rd house and the wind blows south by southwest 3-5. I’ve given up and as soon as you start talking about a new product I’m out. We literally almost drove deer to extinction 80years ago hunting in flannels and jeans. The less bs I gotta sort through the better. When I get older and better at this I’ll try to incorporate this stuff. Until then, set up on a travel corridor with the wind in my face.

Love the podcast ! Always learning something new 👍

Thanks for the great comparison! I hope your cameraman's hangover was not too bad the next day...

Mega Meats will rip through whitetail and are devastating

Great episode! Talk about in-depth scent control!

Great podcast

Love the podcast. Always find good bits of info from these

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Great episode !

Alot of good info was worth the listen

Bowtech wins hands down currently! Pick the one you like…. Easy to tune for anyone… I owned 24 bows last 3 years now own 2 new bowtechs. Love all the bow brands but for me with in home bow press I can do so much with the Deadlock system.

No issues with the methodology of the test or the composition of the target. Perfectly sound. The amount of energy that the bow delivers is a function of the stiffness of the limbs, the draw length (which determines how much the limbs are flexed), and the efficiency of the cam system. As none of these factors change with arrow mass, the "muzzle energy" is constant. It is that energy that determines penetration, so we expect "point blank" shots to penetrate the same distance, no matter the mass of the arrow. What slows an arrow down is air drag, and drag force depends on the square of velocity, so a faster, lighter arrow is losing velocity (and energy) faster than a slower, heavier one. But that velocity advantage means it is covering ground faster, and the short time of flight means it has less time to lose energy, so the drag penalty doesn't hurt it at short ranges. There exists a range though, beyond which the light arrow has lost enough velocity (and thus energy) such that it now has less energy than the heavier arrow, and the heavier arrow will start to show a penetration advantage, with the magnitude of that advantage based on the mass delta and the range. The open question is if that range is close-in enough to be of any practical use - especially when one considers the longer time of flight with a slow arrow at long range and the heavily arced trajectory. At practical shooting ranges, with there being no real difference in penetration, the lighter arrows shorter time of flight and flatter trajectory pay big dividends - just as you concluded. Where things get interesting is if the bow is NOT the same in each case, ie the heavy arrow is mated to a higher draw weight bow. Shooting the heavy and light arrows at the same muzzle velocity (but no longer the same muzzle energy) means that the heavy arrow gets the same flat trajectory and short time of flight, but penetrates deeper and over a longer range band - at the cost of more effort to draw the bow. Of course, moving to a heavier bow means that it can shoot the light arrow even faster - so now all we've done is offset the whole curve upwards - although the increased drag with the higher velocity might change the crossover range in a meaningful range. That would make for a fun test to see if it is the case. There is also a range beyond which the arc of the trajectory is so high that gravity starts to play a part in sustaining velocity - but now we are talking "Battle of Hastings" ranges, not "whitetail hunting" ranges. Fun stuff!

I went to a good spot put my sticks up climb the tree and went to screw in a hanger and that was the hardest tree to get that thing started lmao. I was soaked in sweat by the time I was settled

Why is the volume so low

If the early Alberta hunt goes well, please provide their contact info. Thanks

Love to see the spine tolerance runout 360 degrees around the arrow shaft. How much would the needle move on each brand and what would the average runout of each brand be?

I am having a bit of trouble following you guys in terms of your hunting. It sounds like you are primarily hunting with outfitters. If this is the case, what is the primary element of preparation in that scenario? Is it aligning hunt times with rut phases and weather forecasts or are those hunt times set and you just hunt the week that you have scheduled, no matter the weather? Or do you have some latitude with the outfitters you associate with? Good luck this fall.

Good info like always.

MOMENTUM from the Bear setup you committed on is greater than the MOMENTUM at 5 yards from your light setup you were talking about. MOMENTUM is key at the animal impact .(Lethality) Speed, trajectory, kinetic measurements of the arrow/bow combo are red herrings in the debate we've experienced recently. Jus sayin

I won't buy a jacket without a hood!

What would you guys plant in a shady area with no machinery? I have a small spot that the deer love and Im trying to get them to stay in the area longer through out season.

Penetration differences negligible. Trajectory at distance significantly different. Speed significantly different. Seems like you need to pick your arrow weight based on the KE needed for the animal being hunted. Go as light as uou can to achieve the KE needed for the game being hunted. You don’t need a super heavy arrow to get the job done.

Those heavy arrow guys are chugging kool-aid that is pointless

Great info. !! The penetration test changed my mind- I'll stick to my 454gr. ...

Andre' is right. Over half of deers diets is natural browse

I’m really looking forward to the T2 for whitetail this year. I have always wanted to shoot the mega meats but I have heard and read lots of issues with blades bending and breaking. Now with the size of the mega meats cut I would expect a little bending but breaking is not good.

Be prepared, makes a difference

Shooting the G5 Deadmeat Elk hunting this year! Wasn’t sure if had the power. 458 grain Easton 6.5 match grade out of 70lb 29 inch Bowtech Carbon One.

One of the best video on this topic. For a beginner archer this Was very informative. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge. ❤

Joe is dead on. I run Asio on all my whitetail hunts and don't go out without a hood. In SC we get temp in the 90's during the first 6 weeks of the season. The lightweight hoodie keeps the sun off and the mosquitos away. It's a life saver

I noticed this to be true about oct 14 I witnessed it in the big woods. They just walk back and forth smelling the downwind edge of the area

Great video! Lots of wisdom.

Man im gonna have to order some Asio camo. It looks so good and i love your idea behind it by using predators color patterns. Freaking genius man.

Congratulations on your awesome Africa hunting trip! And wishing you success in Argentina!

Some how i got " unsubscribed" to your podcast !! Might want to mention to listeners to check there subscription!!!

Awesome trip it sounded like.. to be able to see such a variety of Gods creatures on a hunt would be a blessing

mega meats r the best broaheads I've ever shot.

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Preform, or perform? C'mon

How do the Mega Meats fly compared to a field point?

Safe Travels✌🏼🙏 let the- Bodies Hit The Dirt!!

I’m blessed enough to have both Bobby Worthington’s books. I was able to acquire a copy of Phantoms of the Forest in November of 2022 and since have yet seen another copy on the internet available. If guys have a copy, they aren’t letting them go nor shouldn’t. Himself, and his sons did a tremendous job putting the book together with pictures to go along. I personally called him after I finished his books last September and thanked him for his knowledge. Class act of a gentleman.

Not a bow, a machine!!!!

Good listen!!

4:30 You don't understand the penetration differences between bone and cardboard? I'm not surprised. I'm barely 5 minutes into this video and the misinformation is already pretty overwhelming. 650gr is the lowest mass that has 100% occurrence of passthrough at the "Heavy Bone Threshold" for Dr. Ashby's Natal Study. Also, speed is not important. The difference in flight time at 60 yards (which is a distance NOBODY should be shooting live game at... at this point, you're an archer, and should work on your skills as a hunter.) Is 2 tenths of a second between a 400 and 650 grain arrow. Those 2 tenths of a second are not going to make you successful, vs unsuccessful at shooting an animal at an unethical distance. There is not a bow or arrow setup that is going to be quicker than that deer. That's why most experienced bow hunters will use their skills as an actual hunter to get within 30 yards. Additionally, momentum THROUGH the target is Everly impacted at 60 yards. A 650gr arrow has more momentum at 60 yards than a 400gr arrow at launch. Remember, we aren't trying to get the arrow TO the animal. We are trying to get the arrow THROUGH the animal. My final point is this. Shooting cardboard, foam, gel, cinder blocks, car hoods, buildings, and all the other stupid stuff I see people shooting online IS NOT A GOOD ANALOG for "testing" penetration. The target defines the test. This is why the Natal Study is so valid. An animal was shot, then propped up and shot as many times as possible within 30 minutes. After 30 minutes, rigor mortis set in, and effects penetration, thus negating results. You want to learn, test accordingly. I'm so tired of people spouting their conclusions from an inaccurate test parameter, and proclaiming it as fact. I know you put a lot of energy into this test. I'm sure it made sense to you while setting it up. But kill a pig in Texas (where there is no waste laws on that sordid animal) and shoot it with your different setups before rigor mortis sets in, and I promise you will see some valid results that will change your mind. Ask your doing in this video is unknowingly leading people astray.