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TheHumanHighlighter
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Pretty surprising that you checked the description, stay curious my friend.
Perhaps I'll think of a reward to put here someday.
Perhaps I'll think of a reward to put here someday.
How tires ACTUALLY work in Snowrunner
0:00 Intro
0:52 Stats
3:47 Preface
5:04 Testing parameters
6:08 Future plans / Data pooling
6:37 Route
7:01 Voron Grad (Unladen)
8:03 Tayga 6436 (Unladen)
8:42 Tayga 6455 B (Unladen)
9:25 Testing results
10:06 Round 2 tests
10:45 Auxillary test (ANK)
11:27 Round 3 tests
12:41 Conclusion
13:35 Closing thoughts
14:45 Outro
0:52 Stats
3:47 Preface
5:04 Testing parameters
6:08 Future plans / Data pooling
6:37 Route
7:01 Voron Grad (Unladen)
8:03 Tayga 6436 (Unladen)
8:42 Tayga 6455 B (Unladen)
9:25 Testing results
10:06 Round 2 tests
10:45 Auxillary test (ANK)
11:27 Round 3 tests
12:41 Conclusion
13:35 Closing thoughts
14:45 Outro
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Dude this content is amazing. Super informative and well done/well tested/well spoken. I really hope you make some more Snowrunner videos.
Horrible audio. I'd suggest a better mic before you record any more videos. So much static.
just the thing that i was looking for
Firstly, I want to say I really appreciate anyone nerding out over details like this, so thanks for the hard work... I do have to say thought that I question your conclusions/methods, and maybe I misunderstand some of your numbers but.... 1. Your route has mixed terrain, and at least in my experience hard terrain seems to have the balloon tiers behaving worse so some of that time could have been lost there. 2. The time difference between the tires in many cases seems trivial except in cases where you become stuck and the mud tires have a massive gain in time from not becoming stuck. My conclusion would be that in any case where you know ahead of time that there is ZERO chance of being stuck, then sure choose the faster tire and save time(right tire for the job). But in all other cases, you are better off with the best mud tires, because the time loss of being stuck even a single time will negate any time gained over 50+ successful trips with the best off-roads.
Hey look I'm back from the dead after 2 years, thanks for the comment and reasonable question. The mixed terrain is to simulate actual game environments, because testing static performance leads to incorrect assumptions. While all you say is true, I specifically said in the conclusion that if you are on a route that has deep mud, why would you use a 6x6 that is clearly not suited to the task? There's bigger trucks specifically made for that task. You use the medium trucks for their speed and utility, not their mud crawling capability. There's quite a few maps with very few long mudpits, and i assure you if you stop running mud's as "insurance" you'll notice a massive time difference. The more experienced you are the more this rule applies and the more time you'll save. Hope that clears up my perspective.
@@TheHumanHighlighter yeah, thats reasonable. I think from a new player perspective, maybe you just don't have that many vehicles especially if you play maps in order so you might not have better than 6x6 or 4x4 for mud. If you have experience and you have all the vehicles, then moving to more specific tires for each route or map could have value. I definitely find the information interesting and useful for sure, I was just went into the video thinking there would be far more significant difference or one would be the "golden goose" of tires to use and it was interesting that there really didn't seem to be much difference over all. I do think it's interesting though that in many cases of not so deep mud the off-road tires cut down to a point that there is "off-road" terrain under the mud.. if you get around to doing more videos, I would be curious what the best "worst case scenario" options are, as on my first play through, i've gotten too Amur, and after much trial and error I have still not found any "best" truck or tire combination for the maps.
If you play maps in order, the only painful stages will be early because of levels locking you from upgrades, most of the maps (except a few obviously) have easy terrain and often have answers to the more difficult stuff baked in (Example being the P16 for the first area which decimates mud and hauls anything you need anywhere, or the Tayga in Russia). BTW, if you are new, consider following an order similar to this czcams.com/video/CfRuKwTAKgE/video.html because the base game ordering is all over the place considering difficulty. The difference between the tires was a showcase of a worst case scenario, the route I took was horrible for offroad tires and favored the mud's. The whole point of it was to show that unless you are literally bottoming out (which means the truck should not be used for that area) offroads are better in almost every way, even when in a mudtires "playground". As for conquering the harder maps, I'd say your collected upgrades + truck choice (and in turn tire options) will be the biggest determining factor on how easy everything is. For the harder parts of Amur, I literally almost never ran 6x6 trucks in my latest run. Having to unstick with a rescue or take 10 minutes to inch thru mud was not very fun and I intend not to repeat that. As for suggestions, well, it's the same song and dance as any other "op truck" video: 73210, Ziks heavies, Flat nose kolob, Antarctic if you can manage tilt, some people swear by the Dan, and the Mack Def. + Kenworth also pull up for some western muscle. I plan to make A full comprehensive guide when the game releases an official last update where everything I say is set in stone. Mind you, I slapped this one together because nobody was talking about the nuance of tires and grip, which is probably why you are so confused and could (and did) easily misinterpret what I'm showing you. Hell, even this video has tons of outdated and technically incorrect stats, although the core idea still hold true. Also, a lot of community members (Go check out Nathan Province's videos) have done amazing work on the topic since my video, and I will return, but this is all I have to offer for now. Best of luck out there, may you stay upright my friend.
Incredible work. The complexity of this game is astonishing
Thanks for highlighting the facts and doing to bothersome testing.
So offroad tires are better except for when they're not?
Good video
Just wanted to let you know I appreciate the way you carry yourself, your first video was far more informative than any other video I watched, I feel like now you’ve done a good introduction to the way you structure your videos you could focus on sub 10 minute videos to save yourself time while still being very informative, anyways thank you for this video it’s like no other I’ve ever seen!
Impressive work
That is great to know, even after all that time playing the game. Also the algorithm is doing you dirty, only 12k views for a great video like this one?
I needed this! Thank you so much!
I was always suspicious of those mud tires. I even started using off-road tires on most of my vehicles just because intuitively, the mud tires didn’t seem to do much, and in some cases seem worse.
Trouble you for JAT test?
Anyone who openly calls themself a dumbass and accepts criticism.... Is good with me 😎
If you're still playing: It's faster to jump between two maps to reset the mud. But an area around the trucks does not reset.
More technical vids please, maybe comparing trucks on terrain? I think once you get your shit down on editing it'll make it faster, but I quite like the naive style you kicked out, it's different to the millions of samey glossy high production vids.
Tell that to the KRS Bandit
Great video and thank you for your hard work brothaman
So you’re saying I shouldn’t just pick a tire based on looks?
Would have loved to have seen a video for at least some of the heavies to test the dirt-under-mud theory, as they are the only ones that can actually mount high saddles and have the absolute heaviest loads, theoretically pushing them furthest down into the mud possible dependent on tire choice.
Excellent video! I made a video similar to this, but without incorporating numerical values to make it simplified. I’ve used parts of your video to further explain this to folks that still wanted things further broken down. Your video was very thorough and well tested
I follow you as you are my "go to" for snow runner info/gameplay.
I appreciate you highlighting the effect of tires sinking far enough in mud to hit the solid earth underneath. On North Port, I had a mission to transport a drilling rig salvage trailer, and I repeatedly got stuck in a nasty mud patch while driving 6x6 off-roaders, mud tires or not. I ended up using the CAT 745C to drag it out, but I looked up some videos to see how other people might have done it with normal trucks. It turned out that the Pacific P16 worked very well, but I couldn't understand why such a heavy vehicle could manage the mud when off-roaders just spun their wheels. Now, it makes more sense.
I've been playing for 2 years and just correctly learned how to use the transmission, and when, upon entering our driving in mud/snow
Your a legend for this, I had to sub
Nice testing, but I think the biggest flaw here is the manual runs you did. Your runs are not exactly the same, and that's a problem, especially considering how sometimes, doing the exact same thing, but just being one centimeter to the left or right, will have drastic consequences. Sometimes you can go through an area just fine, while being just one centimeter more to the left will get you stuck. IMO the only way to properly test this would be using some kind of automation tool to make sure you always do the exact same thing.
This definitely deserves more attention
Incredible work! Would love to see you cover scouts, even tho I totally understand if you do not have the energy for it. Still, thanks a lot for this info.
Great video
Amazing work, thanks for compiling it
I would love to see the scouts
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Hey, dude the algorithm brought me here. Thank you for your time. It was interesting seeing the data. It’s a shame that so many values and mechanics are hidden to the hardcore community.
An excellent & well executed tests. Thanks, well done for not using the winch, I only use it as a tow rope for delivering trucks to where they need to be Here's one of five 3 minute videos of a vanilla GMC MH9500 without AWD or mud tires fitted (UOD11), no winching on muddy track from Season 10 North Peak garage taking 2nd left into town, without, then with packed metal beams. No getting stuck either czcams.com/video/w84FOvB0IEQ/video.html
thank u 4 the work!
I have recently restarted Snowrunner and tweaking the trucks for my own enjoyment and this explaination of tire stiffness might answer some of the questions I have had when even after increasing size and friction of various tires my mud performance is underwhelming. Thank you for your work.
Great video
Splendid video, and a heartfelt thank you for your effort. I admit I didn't expect offroad tyres to perform better than mud tyres in that particular stretch of terrain in Wisconsin, but I'm glad your tests confirmed a certain consistency in performance. Because tyres in SnowRunner still baffle me after almost 700 hours of gameplay. I think I've accumulated enough experience to 'read the terrain¡ before choosing which tyres to mount on which truck, but sometimes I still get the feeling that the same tyre model (e.g. MHS II) seems to perform very differently on different trucks in the same category and of roughly the same weight. Cheers! //Rick
Maybe, you've already realized, but switching maps resets tracks.
Dude. Thank you for doing this and putting in all this hard work. You’re a badass.
All the time i spent with my mudtires on, when i shouldve kept my my offroad tires. The sadness
Too long of a video, too mutch of unnecessery explanation, and noise and sarcastic voice. But was a good idea of a video and you made your point and it was usefull.
Though we don't have a choice on trailer tires, they don't have to be the same as those that actauly do the work the variouis truck need to do. They are simply pulled through the various materials and thus only really need to float vs sink in to the actual surface area as drive tires on the truck needs to do. Truck tire's need grip, trailer tires do not.
I found file about tires and mod it so i make it realistic with chain tires
Thoughts on loaded truck pulling a loaded trailer, vs empty truck pulling loaded trailers? Does the load push those narrow tires onto dirt and increasing traction?
Great video bro.
Perfection, I knew there was more to the tires than the simple stats.
Well done, man. It's not a blockbuster game, so not a lot of people watch these videos, but if it makes you feel better, we few appreciate the work you put in.
Dude, this is a sea change. Thank you for investing and not just following the dogma