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That seems pretty doubtful. A good belt is likely max 5-7 years with moderate use by a lighter person. As we indicated in the video, the issue here was about how the treadmill was used and not with the treadmill itself.

@@BGRFamily We had had the treadmill for a short while, and I walked on the treadmill during my whole pregnancy. That child is turning 20 in three days.

You don't really indicate that you have used the treadmill since your pregnancy. And walking versus running has a huge impact on machine life. I am sure many would like to know what treadmill you have

@@BGRFamily Yes of course we have used the treadmill as a whole family. My husband is an ultra marathon runner 100+ mile events. Both my now adult daughters used it once they were old enough. I have use it for 2-4 mile walks. It is a Vision treadmill - not made anymore. I'm just pointing out - new treadmills seem to be made to break.

Thanks for the info - if anything the amount of use indicated makes it less believable that you have no issues in 20+ years of using the treadmill. ANY mechanical piece of equipment will have some kind of problem over 20 years of use. While I agree most things are being designed to fail now, especially large home electronics, I do not feel like that was what your original point was. It is important to note that Vision Fitness is owned by the same umbrella company as Horizon Fitness - they are both owned by Johnson Fitness - and they fill different niche's. Vision treadmills are aimed more commercial and Horizon is more home use and they are priced very differently. For example, as of writing this, the latest version of our 7.0 Horizon treadmill is going for under $1000 as part of a sale and the cheapest Vision treadmill is listed at over $5000 on the Johnson Fitness site. The Vision does have more robust parts like a thicker deck and more powerful motor however for home use has a 7 year parts warranty where the Horizon has a 3 year parts warranty. The average home user will have to make the decision if a bit over double the warranty will justify 5x the cost. Obviously other factors will play in there too for a decision but it does highlight that no one should be expecting 20 years of life out of a treadmill with "ZERO problems". Thanks for watching

Yep, still good

Great .. Thanks for replying

Yeah, we were heavily leaning to the 7.4 too, but it just doesn't get the same deals as the 7.0. That was one of the big reasons we decided to go with the 7, we couldn't justify that the differences were worth that much.

No, no issues with rain getting in. We had a significant hail storm last week and it even survived that without a scratch.

Not that we have seen, no. We just had a freak hail storm a couple days ago with golf ball sized hail, even stood up to that - I'm kinda impressed.

@@BGRFamily that's awesome, thank you!

Still holding up well - no issues developed over the winter. We are still happy with it.

Still great - some maintenance issues you expect for a fair bit of use. But pretty good overall

Thanks for watching! It held up well through the winter - it comes with a support pole for the roof for snow in the winter but due to the shape of the roof the snow fell of quickly and didn't build up. It was good to have that piece of mind though. The deck we put it on has been there for years so there was no settling over the winter or anything like that either putting pressure on any of the joints. Overall it survived really well with no concerns and we would definitely get it again. We also got a winter cover for the gazebo that goes over, gets tied to the unit, and then attached to the deck - gave us a great spot to store all the yard stuff through the winter and it was an easy clean up and set up this spring. Highly recommend doing something like that. We did look at the Costco wood gazebos as well but the decision in our heads came down to the dimensions of the gazebo to properly fit the existing deck and the mosquito netting being included and very durable. Hope that helps!

@@BGRFamily thanks so much for the information. Appreciate it!

Yeah, Johnson Fitness owns Horizon, Matrix, Vision and a few other brands as well.

Under the main mast assembly / motor housing there are 4 feet - they can be turned to adjust level - turning them clockwise will make the foot go closer to the assembly and lowering that corner closer to the floor. Turn counter clockwise to extend the foot further from the assembly and raising that corner further from the floor. You basically have to put the treadmill in the location you need, take a level and check left to right level and then front to back. Essentially set the level near the edge on each of the 4 sides and adjust the feet up and down until you get the assembly level in all directions. There really isn't any way to level the deck where the wheels are - you pretty much have to have a good level surface to begin with or in some cases use something like a thin piece of wood to adjust height. Be careful there though to use something wide and stable so that the treadmill wheels don't fall off whatever you are using. Sorry for the fairly rushed response, but I hope it helps.

Hope it works out for you. With a similar size and run speeds, I have broken the deck on treadmills from this brand as well. But these decks are an easy replacement at least. Our last treadmill was a Nordictrack which is under the same umbrella as proform, and it was awful to change the deck on.

@@BGRFamily Thanks for your response! Just to pick your mind a bit more if you don't mind. Would you say the Horizon 7.4 would be worth the upgrade for the price with the stronger motor, heavier weight capacity and longer warranty?

Honestly, we wanted to go with the 7.4 for the wider deck as well as for the other items you mention, but when we were buying the 7.4 was out of stock. That and we got the 7.0 on a deal that was $400-500 off at the time and the 7.4 didn't have the same deal listed even if it was in stock. That would have been hard to justify the price difference. I think for most people the extra year of labor is definitely worth something, but the real selling point for the 7.4 for me is the extra 2 years of parts even without the labor. Being decently handy, I find this brand to be pretty straight forward to install new parts so the extra 2 years of being able to keep it running is worth a fair bit to me. Hope that helps!

I think there could be a few reasons why that occurs, but if you did adjust the belt, it is likely that some minor adjustments need to be done. If it slow slides to the left, either the left side is too loose or the right side is too tight. I would likely start with the assumption the left side is too loose and go from there. To correct it, you need to turn the left bolt clockwise to tighten up the left side. Turn it about a quarter turn and test, and continue until it stays steady and doesn't drift. After you do that, I would check to see how tight the belt is overall - if it seems extremely tight and stretched, I would back loosen both sides an equal amount and check everything again. It can be a bit finicky to get everything lined up properly, which is the main reason I generally lube the belt now without loosening everything. czcams.com/video/o4iTK-YBV7w/video.html Hope that helps!

@@BGRFamily Thanks I think I fixed it. I tightened the left side. I haven’t ran on it yet, but letting it run by itself, it didn’t look like it was moving.

Cool! Hope that gets it all sorted for you.

Glad it was helpful!

Great to hear! Hope the treadmill works well for you!

The equipment comes lubed. Lube at 3 months, or at 150 miles, whichever comes first. The machine will give a "lube belt" message at 150 miles.

@@BGRFamily Thank you. I was worried I screwed up. I've been using it everyday for two weeks. I went and purchased that 16 oz bottle with syringe on Amazon. But I have to say the US Amazon is half the price as the Canadian one. I paid $30 for the 16oz bottle.

Yeah, the price of it jumped considerably in Canada in the past couple years. Hope it works well for you.

The deck / belt / bottom part is definitely the heaviest part of the treadmill. Not recommended to move it on your own - when I have had to move this piece, I put it on its edge and slide it on the carpet. If you don't have carpet or there are stairs involved, definitely get a second set of hands.

Still great!

@@BGRFamily great! Looking at picking up a used one. Realistic to break it down and fit it in an SUV?

Should be doable - disconnecting the masts and console from the deck is possible - definitely a two person job though!

Ours was pre-lubricated and could be used out of the box without additional lubrication.

@@BGRFamily thanks

Thanks for watching! We have it right next to a big window and here in the Canadian winter we don't have any issues with it feeling too cold or sticking too much in the heat of the summer. That being said, anything glass will have those kinds of problems more than a wood surface will no matter what. I personally would not try to use a monitor arm or any kind of clamp on the edge of the desk - there is a small gap between the glass and the metal frame underneath it, if you tighten too much, you could shatter the glass. There would likely be ways to prevent that (like putting some kind of firm cushioning material between the glass and the frame would work - but I haven't tried as our use case doesn't need any kind of attachment like that). For the weight limit - there is definitely no concern with the frame holding considerably more weight than the rating, it is very strong. The glass and the motor might be a concern but just leaning on the table is likely also not really an issue, as you rarely would put your full weight on the desk. Additionally the official website currently lists 175 pounds as the weight limit as did the box when we received it - you can see the rated capacities at approx 3:45 in the video. We love ours for how we are using it and we have had no issues in the 2 years we have had it. It does sound like for your use case though, you might be wanting a wood or hard surface instead. Hope that helps!

Thank you very much for your reply. It is very complete and I was more confident with which decision to make.@@BGRFamily

Hi there, thanks for watching! I don't have any experience with the Sprint 8 program so I can't really do a real comparison myself. There are some parts of doing it manually with two side buttons that a program could help make easier for sure. Here is what we do: 1. start the treadmill and get it to up to one of the two speeds that you want to program, usually I do the slower speed first and press and hold the left button until the get the acknowledgement that the setting is programmed 2. get up to the second speed (higher speed for me) and I then press and hold the right button until the setting is saved. 3. I then start my work out and use a short press on whichever side button I need. This does work for us, but it can be a bit fiddly to get the higher speed button set to what you want if you are really pushing it at the higher setting. It can also be a bit tricky to get the lower speed setting button to trigger when you are pushing it as well - since you hit the button with your thumb while holding the grip it means at the higher pace run, you need to grab on and then hit the button - can be tricky for sure. Alternative there though is to use the speed roller on the right stick to quickly bring you speed down to a safer speed to grab the handle and hit the button. Hope that helps!

Perfect. Thank You!!

It's good!

Unfortunately, I do not know. Likely would need to contact Bowflex customer service, but I don't have any experience there.

Ours is the version released in the last half of 2020. I would certainly assemble it myself again, but I am able to handle moving around the heavy pieces and I am mechanically inclined - assembling it yourself may not be for you. We are still have liking the treadmill, yes. Thanks for watching!

Hope you enjoy it!

Thanks for watching! The floor mat is just a bit under 4 foot by 8 foot - when the rods are at the widest part of their arc the total width for them together is a little over 6 feet - say 6 foot 1-2 inches. Hope that helps.

We do still recommend the treadmill - no additional issues beyond what was in the video have occurred. The thicker deck might have helped with the original deck/belt issues but the original issue was really due to a too focused wear down in one spot - so, I don't think it would have made much of difference in the end. In the end, we don't regret getting the 7.0 and if you were restricted in space and the ability to get the treadmill to where you need it to go, I personally would lean to the 7.0 for your use case. Hope that helps!