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@@Holden-McGroin maybe a little bit but regardless it was gonna be a tight and risky move. I’ve since talked to a number of full sized rigs who’ve made it though…but it’s still tight and risky with a big lean towards that boulder!

You make a lot of assumptions. One, my suspension is bone stock. My only mods are 37” tires, high clearance bumpers, rock sliders and differential protection. Way, way short of your stated $10k of mods. If you think those are just cosmetics…come follow me around in the rocks and you’ll wish you had each and every one of the few mods I have. Are there any videos posted of your stock Power Wagon on 33” tires running Poison Spider, Golden Spike or even climbing the ledges at Bangs Canyon or attempting 21rd? I usually take the hard lines and don’t stack rocks.

And btw, if you think aftermarket bumpers are “mostly cosmetics” then I suggest it’s time to research and understand approach and departure angles.

Nope, I run 37's on stock rims and suspension. Rock sliders, diff protection and high clearance bumpers.

@@rickburnham5796 yeah I noticed the stock rims, that's why I thought it would be a 35. No rubbing? Whats the width of your 37?

@@9uhaib114 37x12.5’s. They aren’t great for around town since they rub the swaybar if you even think about turning tight. In the trail with the swaybar disconnected it rarely rubs and is just about a non issue. Where I live (Western Colorado) I need all the help I can get on the rocks so it’s worth the trade off!

@@rickburnham5796 sweet, I think I will go with the 35 in the meantime, just bought my PW, investing more on overland ING gear. Love and peace from Saudi ❤️

@@9uhaib114 same to you, thanks. I wheeled for quite a while on 35’s and never got stuck

congratulations on being better than me! I ordered the driver mod but it hasn't shown up yet....

Thanks! I run 37x12.5’s on the stock wheels and completely stock suspension.

Yeah I thought about that as I know it’d climb that flat faced rock, just wasn’t sure how much of an ugly angle that would have been. First day of three there so…live to fight another day!

Yeah next time to Moab I’m removing my nice 2.5” Factor 55 hitch link and D-ring, going to use a hitch slider instead!

Rambicon!

Those Dethlof skids are nice, I’m jealous! I’m still using the factory skids, I did add a bash guard for the front diff and replaced the rear diff cover with the heavy AEV unit. Since that video I replaced those rock rails with true frame mount rock sliders.

@@rickburnham5796 Godz mfg. also makes some nice skids for the PW

Those are 37’s on stock rims and suspension. 40’s would require extensive trimming and AEV style fender flares. The truck also performed well on 35’s but living out in Western Colorado on the rocks I need all the help I can get. Tire size and drivability depends on your entire combination. Example: my Power Wagon comes with 4:10 gears and the 8spd transmission so the 37’s have a minimal impact on it.

@@rickburnham5796 I see. That HD frame and beam axles probably feel right at home with 37s. Thanks for the reply!

@@rickburnham5796 Sorry, last question: did you notice a change in MPG when you went from 35s to 37s?

@@gkcamden9050 yeah it dropped some, not sure how much.

No Power Wagon don’t care (except when she’s too fat to squeeze through!)

I have them but rarely ever use both, the rear locker gets used on milder trails in 2wd!

And no I wasn’t using them on that obstacle.

Appreciate that, the front Chassis Unlimited bumper was a total game changer, the approach angle made it like a different truck. The rear bumper didn’t cost much and most people talk bad about Rough Country…but it was cheap and has held up well to some hits (down onto rocks). Plus it got those backup sensors off the bottom of the bumper.

@@rickburnham5796 and the rear bumper has the built in side steps.

Thank you, yes stock suspension on 37’s w/bumpers and diff guards. Sliders are frame mount Rocky Road Outfitters.

My first time to Moab so I was a totally a follower and don’t know the obstacle names. We climbed Poison Spider to Golden Spike and then took that to the “skinny” entry to Where Eagles Dare”. Did that trail and then returned to Poison Spider using Golden Spike again and then back down. The trail limo does pretty good with the biggest problem being breakover (over course). The hardest obstacles were on Golden Spike.

Haha, not quite! But a really nice winter day for sure.

Thanks a lot!

LOL, thanks

It’s a good life!

Agreed

The transfer case in the Power Wagons is always locked whether 4LO or 4HI, it also came with front and rear differential lockers so it can be “triple locked”. Thanks for the question. There’s a lot of people who wheel hard with Ram 1500’s too!

@@rickburnham5796 A thousand thanks for your clear answer!

Lol Dean, Power Wagon don’t seem to care!

I now have Rocky Road Outfitters frame mount full length sliders. In that older video I was using N-Fab “Rock Rails” which are more of a nerf bar mounted to the rocker pinch weld like the factory sliders. Actually they held up pretty darn good!

Thank you!

Thanks Ruairi…and it was!

lol, you think it’s a video game!?!? That’s a good one.

Amen, and it’s rare pics or video show the steepness!

Scrapes happen…

@rickburnham5796 I understand, bruh, but I am Asian 😅😂

Thank you. Stock exhaust turned down with mandrel bent 90 after the muffler.

Cool. I did a Borla Muffler with resonator delete.

Hey thanks!

Thank you, it was fun

Difficulty Rating: * Trail Length: ** Elevation Range: Operating Season: Difficult 2 Miles - point to point 5556' - 5868' All Year "This is an extreme trail near Grand Junction, though you do have some options. Most of the obstacles have bypasses, and though the bypasses are generally not difficult they can be tippy or challenging. If you do every obstacle -- including Insanity at the end -- you'll do the 10-rated trail. The trail starts with some easier obstacles, then gets progressively more difficult all the way to the end."

@@rickburnham5796yeah but “What the fuck is 21(rd)”

@@keo8269 It is a wash north of Grand Junction colorado. It is if not the toughest 4x4 trail in the USA. What this truck is doing is just crossing the wash. Nothing like starting at the beginning. It couldn't make it. There are 8 ft tall boulders that are vertical that specialized 4x4s have a hard time climbing over. my RZR can't do them. At the end though there is a cool cave that many camp out. in. There are videos of the local clubs that do the real tough part of the trail.

I hate dodge but those look best IMO and rhe Dakota

Thanks!

Yes it was pretzeled pretty good by the time I put the Chassis Unlimited bumper on. It’s still a nice option though.

I used rocker mounted rock rails for quite a while and they held up, that’s what’s on the truck in this video. I now have Rocky Road true frame mount sliders. And thank you!

37’s

Thank you Sir! Any mods to prevent rubbing?

Nope, she rubs the swaybar around town parking, try not to even think of going full lock. Believe it or not out on the trail it rarely rubs when it’s flexing or even being stuffed, it’s almost a non issue on the trail and for me the benefits outweigh the negative. The suspension is stock.