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coilers fans coping hard after their "generational talent" players getting exposed as the frauds that they are 🤣🤣🤣

cheating used to be openly accepted in the NHL, and it killed scoring, plus made the game boring and frustrating. it was called The Slash and Grab Era

Its when they started to enforce the rules for clutching, grabbing, holding, hooking, interference.

open ice dekes and slot passes, okay pal, the only stats that matter!

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Vegas averaged a whopping 4.00 goals scored per game in the '23 playoffs, and that made for some really exciting hockey.

This is a very sad video. I miss hockey the way it's supposed to be played. With heart and grit, not flash and flair.

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Dilution of the latent pool due to rapid expansion. This happened in 99 when the league expanded aggressively. It happens every time a team is allowed to rob the league of its depth instead of creating a new club with new players. The fact is that players while being more athletic are not more talented. In the mid 90's the depth was so good on most teams they actually could put together a roster that could compete properly. Right now the NHL is experiencing what the 80's experienced. Massive expansion with most teams being as Gretzky would say, "Mickey Mouse." Also with aging talent fading like that of the early 2000's, you get an effect of young players with no experience coming in and old but talented players moving out. I also don't think it helps that the NHL is shifting away from men's sports. The man and the intensity has been taken out of the sport. A lot of these games are like watching golf. Players just going through the motions and players who would never have made it in the NHL in the 80's and 90's. Yes, they're athletic. But watching lately I see that defense is weak, the officiating is coddling and downright idiotic and the corporate culture is nurturing weakness. In the 90's you had 2 lines of intense, physical and also talented players on almost every team. Most teams don't have that anymore. They're all what would have been depth players on their old teams now playing in a league spread thin. The sport has gone from Men's hockey to more of a business where the human resources don't matter as much as the sustainability of each club to generate revenue for the owners and the league. Even if that means less entertainment and less competition. This is simply where the NHL evolved to. It's not a competitive sport like it once was. The teams don't hate each other anymore. There aren't any rivalries. It's very apathetic.

I grew up watching and playing hockey in the late 90's/early 2000s . I recently got back into watching hockey after taking a 10-ish year break from the game, and while I understand that the game has to evolve, I miss "old school" hockey as described in this video. There's more goals now, but it feels like it's always one team blowing out another team. I'd much rather have low scoring, tight games than what we have now, however, I know I'm in the minority. These new kids are fast asf though, which is cool.

Goalies are dropping to butterfly positions , and players are going up high on them now

In the old days if you stood near the goal crease the goalie would slash your legs. Today they can't do that anymore. Now a forward may boldly stand near or in front of a goalie thereby improving his chances of scoring. No more two line passes and all the ticky tacky penalties resulting in more power play opportunities may also have a lot to do with more scoring. With the reduction in physical play there are now more opportunities for taking more unimpeded SOG. I also believe that the sticks they now use may increase the speed of the shots. As an old school puck fan, the pro game was a lot more fun in the old days. Sadly, those days are gone forever.

I'm surprised the removal of the two line pass rule wasn't mentioned. That was huge for opening up the speed game.

this is a really good video

Holy cow, that MacKinnon goal at 1:45 looked like 2x speed 🤯

You obviously missed the '70s. And goalies these days suck

In this video you have an arrogant tone. Almost like you are stating that "old school hockey" is no were near as entertaining as "modern" hockey. Which is completely false. The players and fans were more emotionally attached to hockey from 1982-2004 then they are now. The game has become european soccer on ice. I have been watching and playing ice hockey since 1982. I am 50 years old. Respect your elders.

Funny how Tampa bay, St. Louis and Vegas have won cups recently with a heavy physical D and a ferocious fore check, June hockey will always a war of attrition, getting the puck behind the D and physically dominating the blue paint at both ends.

Once again, uniformed people talking about how the game is so much better today without knowing the essential facts. Buzz words like skill or hockey iq like that didn’t exist in the past. Here’s one, 2 line pass.

Hockey is much faster now so teams play about 30% more icehockey during the 60 min than 30 years ago. More opportunities to score. Plus revomal of the redline offside rule plus there are much fewer small hooks and slashes allowed these day giving the offensive players more opportunities. My theories 😊

I’m going to assume you are young because your time line is not correct. The 2003-04 season was the low point for scoring, and the rule changes of the lockout supercharged offense in 05-06, then the clutching and grabbing creeped back in to claw some of that back. Analytics came in big around 2012 on the internet and guys like Kyle Dubas, that led to the new breed of hockey. Killing off dump and chase for me is the thing that led to speed (well that and it being the focus of developing young athletes now, population growth far exceeding the only two more teams added to the league since 2001). Dump and chase was the answer to clogging the defensive blue line, then at one point the flyers (I think) just passed the puck around in a stalemate against Guy Boucher’s Tampa 1-3-1 trap saying we aren’t going to play your game anymore.

Yes, it's fun to an extent to watch old films of hockey games and perhaps long for how the game was played back then. However, the contrast of the speed and skill of today's players compared to players of years past is amazing. Currently, scoring is up, balance throughout the league is mostly good, and the playoffs appear wide open. In my opinion, there should be little complaining about the state of hockey in the NHL today.

Except Sutter was a puck possession coach. However, the elimination of the 2-line pass, the equipment, goalie style and the fact that hockey is a rich family sport who’s kids play 360 days a year from the age of 4 and shelling out over 50k a year to play per kid is what changed the game

Just my observations. The greatest practitioner of the NZT was Jacques Lemaire and the NJ Devils of the 90s. The Scotty Bowman Red Wings of the 90s/early 2000s played a more freewheeling style (if memory serves me right) as he would often use four forwards on the PP utilizing the many Russians on the team leading to the nickname of the Big Red Machine.And the Stars-Oilers rivalries of thar period were wild Western conference hockey.

Hanson: Eddie Shore? McGrath: Piss on Eddie Shore! Hanson: Old time hockey? McGrath: Piss on old time hockey!

You also don't mention that with every year, more rules in the "No Hit League" make it impossible for defensemen to play the body. They all try futile stick checks, flopping around, swimming on the ice. Connor McDavid skates through four guys without a single one making a move toward him. 1980, he'd been crushed at the blue line. Refs are even calling for game misconducts on LEGAL checks. Teams don't draft enforcers anymore because you can't touch anyone anymore. They'd be on penalty kills all night long. Interference. Holding the stick, Every tap on the stick is slashing, every touch in the back is a cross check. If Gretzky was in his prime playing today, he'd have doubled his total goals. NHL has become a joke trying to mimic it's own video games.

I would say Hasek changing the goalie mentality and the Devils ‘95 trap changed the mindset and goals dropped. In the 80s goalies tried to cut down the angle and would come WAY outta the net. That stopped in the 90s. And Bill Ranford was pretty much the last stand-up style goalie.

Dude, the 80s early 90s was GOALS GALORE.

It is still too violent.

Hockey like all other pro sports is about money period. They are not games they are business and if the owners thought they could sell more tickets with constant hits that are carrier enders that's what they would do.

Forgot Crosby in 2007-2008 really started the speed and puck possession ideology. Add in Mcdavid and it basically solidified it. Along with your point about defensemen. I really think the 08-12 penguins and the 15 sens maybe even throw in the Lightning in there and it solidified speed and puck possession are the top priorities outside of goaltending. Also with open ice hits being reduced heavily in the crosby era really contributed to players being able to throw themselves full speed at the blue line where in some of the old days that could be a career ending decision.

A defenseman who can score. How about Larry Robinson during his Montreal career in the '70's?

don't kid yourself. the team that wins the championship is always oldschool

The 2012 Kings were not actually a neutral zone-trap team. Teams might have wanted a more puck possession style to answer the Kings, but the fact is the Kings were a high puck possession time that year. The Kings won with that and good D/goaltending.

I guess people here are too young to remember "Piss on Eddie Shore"

Why does the new generation have so much phobia Against what they call old school ?

I think it was better back in the day. Now goalies have to be six foot six, sticks are graphite, all kinds of mods. Like Formula one racing in a way. Put them back in wood sticks and fiberglass face formed goalie masks like I did. Put race car drivers back into cars they have to shift with stick shifts and take away the 50 percent of the safety and then lets see who is brave.

New school follow the leader pixxes me off. Speed isn't more exciting than hard hits... besides it's descrimination against the bigger stronger guys! The bottom line is the BUCK.

My first point of confusion was when you talked about 20 years ago-an era we all remember, in which they allowed clutching and grabbing and all sorts of interference they don't allow now-then you referred to the 2012 through 2014 Stanley Cup LA Kings team, which dominated _well after_ those rule changes that gave way to a rise in scoring. FWIW, that Kings team also emphasized offensive zone time, I believe frequently leading the league. One could argue that puck possession isn't as big a deal as it was then, and you could also argue that other neutral zone strategies are now more effective. I only bring this up as a Kings fan, who's seen all these eras, and even saw the Kings and OIlers in the bygone era, do well anyway with the speed game. You might ask, "so why did such dominant teams (as the 2012 Kings) ultimately lose their edge?" The same way they all do in the salary cap era. They can't continually stack the talent on their teams. The Chicago Blackhawks were dominant at the same time using your strategy, and these teams met twice in the conference finals, and their time also passed.

Another reason is because you get called for hooking now if you even breathe on the puck carrier. As a Rangers fan, watching the ‘94 Cup Finals, I’m amazed at what they got away with back then compared to today. It’s just like watching NFL games now. Gen Z’ers want high scoring games so that’s what the leagues are giving them.

short sided video ...LIke Gretz and Super Mario couldn't score . Biggest laugh was Karlson, have you heard of Orr, Coffey, Bourque, Lindstrom? Or did I go too far back for ya

I see all this as a natural progression of the game. The neutral zone trap died because players and coaches adapted to it. Also the rule changes favored more offense.

Three things destroyed the game of hockey: (1) Allowing the forward pass; (2) Eliminating the Rover position; (3) Allowing goalies to drop to their knees. Putting that glass crap around the rink instead of chicken wire didn’t help, either.

Old school hockey had not Michigan goals. I don't like those types of goals, makes the game of hockey more like a circus.

main factors: sticks generate more power / speed on the puck. goalie pads were ridiculous in the dead puck era. gretzky and lemeux would have quite a few less points if they entered the league with goalies padd out like that and blocking a lot more of the net. Then, the elimination of the two line pass rule, which never should have been in hockey to begin with offside is enough we don't need another 2 line pass similar rule designed to punish fast players and crisp accurate passers. it's akin to the offsides rule in soccer, where you must stay in front of the defenders before receiving the ball, it also punishes fast athletes and good passers, brings everyone down to a lower level of skill and athleticism

Was a Kings fan beginning in the 74-75 "best franchise points" record season. Coach Pulford kept a disciplined defensive style of a mediocre team, but perseverance gave the Kings the 2nd highest point total in the NHL. Later Kings teams languished until Simmer came along, and by then the violent 70's climate was fading. After Gretzky came and went, I realized the great names of hockey were gone. The sport had lost its tradition and star players. After, I lost all interest in hockey, with only rare reminiscences of YT videos of the great 70's hockey.

Love the video, man. Keep it up!

Fact check, the NJ Devils perfected the neutral zone trap on their way to winning the SC 1994-95.

So we came full circle back to Bobby Orr

Also the puck possession comment. Please see Edmonton of the 80s and Detroit for almost thirty years