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Agreed, he got a bit smug after getting his guesses right and went from telling Diane to stick with him to saying she made him uncomfortable within a few seconds. Totally believed he had a creaky attic full of records though.

I love the new version but I always skip the entire task - maybe 15-20 mins of the show - and just watch what happens before and after it. I find the task totally irrelevant, and often quite boring (or at least I did, before I decided to just skip them). I never felt like I'd missed anything.

@@davmeg Season two had a really good moment when Harry got the shield and kept it to himself. Was a very clever ploy. I skip the tasks sometimes too. Unless it is obvious that what's happening in the task is gonna have a big impact on the roundtable. And sometimes it has been worth it, because people will mishear something, or exaggerate something in the roundtable. And it makes it really funny to watch them use this faulty information to vote out a faithful. In fact that's my favorite kind of banishment. When the traitors haven't actually had to do anything at all, and they just sit back and watch faithfuls turning on each other. It's especially funny when the faithfuls after banishing a faithful start going "the traitors are playing a really good game." when nope, you just gave them this one. They did nothing. The roundtables are by far the best part of the show, but every now and then the tasks/missions are worth watching. Not often enough though. And the faithfuls saying "they play so well on the tasks, they have to be a faithful" always makes me laugh. The traitors obviously want to win more money incase they win. Guess someone didn't read the rules or something. Like they think the traitors get a separate pot of gold of something.

​@@TomGallagherSuperboyBeyond yeh, I agree. The ploy Harry used was clever, but I was fully aware of it and what was going on without having watched the actual task - they talk about it all the time and it is explained; I didn't feel like I was missing out having not watched it. I do think there a couple of flaws generally with the show, although it doesn't stop my enjoyment of it. One is, like you said, that the traitors have just as much reason to do well on the tasks, so the faithfuls really have nothing to go by. I think generally there is pretty much nothing they can do except guess, and the problem is that once you accuse someone, that person gets defensive, and it is impossible to prove a negative. I particularly like the "I'm 100% faithful" line which everyone is so fond of saying. As if the other guys sitting around the table are thinking, Oh, OK, I had my suspicions about them and I thought they'd be maybe 75- or 80% faithful, but if they're 100% faithful then I'll turn my suspicions elsewhere. Another thing is that it isn't actually an advantage to find the traitors earlier on in the show. If you vote one out, they'll probably just get replaced, and that makes it even harder because anyone who you may have rightly believed to be faithful one day could easily have been turned into a traitor the next. So what's the incentive to vote them out, until the very end? But anyway, like I said, I enjoy the show a lot regardless!

@@davmeg all excellent points

Oh those few months without the simpsons as a child felt like years. Back when they'd also air the fresh Prince 😢

"I am a highly impressive athletic type..." "Yeah probably, QUICK JONATHAN, NAME 8 VILLAGE PEOPLE SONGS!"

It means people have joined the website, duh. It's like a community forumn, still quite common back in those days. The modern equivalent would be, I started a sub reddit that has x amount of members.

She explains what it means at 13:16 It's an msn community. So basically just a facebook group or a subreddit. Or a forum, but those kinds of forums are dying out now. But man, everybody seemed to have them for a while. Tbh, i miss it. The communities were smaller, but it was a good time. Before the internet became just a bunch of corporations.

Then you'd have been thrown off the show by the producers, they aren't going to allow blatant cheating

@@AshleySef08 I don’t care, pitch blackness is my nightmare.

who in society does that remind you of?

and sophia is an idiot

@@jukeseyableshe was gullible, not stupid

@@cm2402a more nunced and accurate discription, ill grant you that. but in this context, are they not one and the same

@@jukeseyable definitely not, because anyone who is smart can still be deceived. Someone who's a master at mathematics wouldn't have anything to use as 100% proof in this game. It's just a game of trust and believing one persons words. There's no solid complete proof of someone being a traitor or not. Just a simple social game to see who can gain others trust the most

Is it? Missed that.

Fair point. But did you see the US version of Traitors?

What a difference 20 years makes. It could’ve been made 50 years ago given some of the content.

Why is it obvious

@101ladil the comment was an ironic one.

Yes.

​@frajoladellagato to which question?

@@tosser182 correct.

I found it weird because it was so normal. Usually everything on tv is so polished and scripted, this felt nice and real.

@@FunkySpunkyJunky exactly.

You spend 5k on a day out? The fuck are you doing

@@Lezzyboy87 no I mean: £5000 between 7 people is like £714 each. That's enough for like a really good day trip out somewhere with the family or something. So it's wild to me that that's the minimum prize in the end 🤷‍♂️ it's not worth going on TV for

@@Kranitoko back in 2004 - equivalent to £1.k now people go on pointless for less

Sure but it's BBC, BBC2 even. If they stated giving away huge prize money, the gammons and the Daily Mail would be at their throats - "taxpayers money being wasted!". There's more to life than money.

@@Kranitoko some people go on for fun

Nobody cares

They didn't need it back then@@PT77711 . Incidentally, it's not the woke-left that demand diversity, it's big business, who are desperate to get the money (and employees) from immigrants to the UK. They are the future- like it or not

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It would be an inherent issue in a cast as small as this that relies on first impressions. Implicit biases and prejudices would play a major impact in a circle this tiny.

Woke 🙄

There was. The show was just called Liar Also funny that Paul Kaye also did the pilot for this show.

I thought John was the traitor because I thought he was talking a lot, thus trying to put up a front, and it went to a bias about men being bad, and women can do no wrong.

do you know where we can watch the rest of the episodes?

It’s weird that I’d never noticed that but they wouldn’t have a show like this now because people wouldn’t dare call out any of the diverse minorities as they’d be accused of bullying, racism, homophobia sexism etc by the over sensitive viewers. Sad but true that people now look for any excuse to bring diversity or lack of it in any situation. There was a game show called golden balls that was based on trust with contestants to split or steal the money, and it was always the same kind of people that would steal 🤷🏾‍♂️

@@TayWoode This a strange sentiment because The Traitors has a pretty diverse cast and many if not all of the minorities were called out and eliminated, while a straight white male won this years' series. There was no controversy as far as I could tell. Think you might have an askew perception of today's culture.

@@SeanLBurns I was on about the op talking about this episode not being diverse, not the modern ones, and like I said I hadn’t even noticed but that’s how ingrained it is now in people to look for that everywhere and make sure a certain quota is met even when it’s not representative. My father pointed it out years ago when it started on adverts and joked “why does every family look like ours now? I thought we were being original” Oh my father is from St Kitts & Nevis in case you wondered what I meant 😂👍🏾

@@TayWoode A great example would be last years Big Brother, they called the Big Brother audience transphobic because they voted out the transgender person... on a show that the same audience in years previously have chosen as it's winners, several gay men, a transgender man, a transgender woman, a black man and a couple of lesbian women and Asians in second place. They even voted for some Welsh and Scottish people to win. So to be honest regardless of whatever way the people on the show or public vote, some will say they are racist/ homphobic/transphobic or whatever other name for making that decision.

i can't

Also I loved his little guilt trip at the end: nobody is making you sleep two hours!

Tbh, average UK demographic at the time.

@@jamtastic3 you haven't got better. lol

It was mafia first, it evolved into werewolf. Yes Among us is a version but as a game the best evolution has to be Blood on the Clocktower

@@247marquisim looking forward to playing that at some point this year, there's fairly regular games around west yorkshire

Werewolves within easily has to be the best video game version of them, nothing better than like this show being stuck in a seated position facing your soon to be murderers in VR.

is that not.. exactly the same thing? lmao. load of people, couple who are.. traitors... never seen the new one but seen a clip.

Did you even watch it ? Clearly not weirdo

This is essentially just a round table, same idea just different format.

John giving off traitor vibes

Er. Its the name of the show dude. Nothing about the title is clickbait. It is factual.