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Greg Roberts PRECISELY...great to see, even new commers get it. Why don't seasoned helmsmans get it?

In addition if you fly/trim the kite from the guy rope or setting it reduces the rolling. AND getting the weight back so the rudder stays in the water and getting people sitting down both help.

Frankly the helmsman didn't even HAVE to "steer" upwind; my guess is the swell was hitting the stern on the port quarter, which would send the boat upwind on its own. All he'd have had to do was correct the helm to starboard and ease the helm back to dead center once the swell got forward of the beam. I'm no master helmsman but that's one thing I learned pretty quickly years ago sailing a Columbia 50 on a broad reach. If the sheet isn't trimmed too far forward one should never have to correct the helm upwind.

sym?

​@@briane173 if you look closely he is trying to move up wind, but was already unsteerable

Matt Bouttell sorry. Didn't no your wonderful sailor. Go play with your boat in the bath.

Matt Bouttell very grown up. Non sailors need not comment.

I think they had the small baggy sail up :)

Looks like quite a broad reach. Reefed main is often a "left over" from a previous upwind leg. Seems like all crew was prepared for something like this to happen, but maybe not experienced enough to see it coming in time and prevent it. No injuries, no damage, just some lost time. No big deal with 8 crew to clean up the mess.

Burial if the main is reefed and the kit is flying. There is a good chance of loosing the top of the mast. Dick heads

@@stevesugg2532 what do you expect them to do? They're racing, and competitively, which means of course they are on the edge.

Not if you know what you’re doing and in fact, a refereed main will give you better control of the spin if you have a helmsman who knows enough to BEAR OFF in a gust rather that head up as this asshole did. That’s why he lost it. For some inexplicable reason he headed up as the spin oscillate to port. He lost steerage and the rest was history. Manure occurrs

@@scomo532 eeeh… no. You don’t Chinese because you head up (as in the case with a normal broach when there is too much power that causes the rudder to loose grip) it’s a result of running to flat down and in this case with the kite pole quite openly exposed to windward. Just before the incident they brought the pole to windward and the helm probably didn’t realize that they were running pretty much 180. A little help from a wave and you Chinese jibe. To avoid it you must rather head up a little and put the pole forward to the headstay if you want to play it safe (trade off speed though). It’s an easy mistake to do. I couldn’t tell if the helm is an asshole or not, I don’t know him…

you can 100% reach with a sym spin

100% u can reach with a sym spinnaker just make sure u don’t have it pulled round to win ward

I prefer people making error while doing things than people doing nothing.

+segocarib couldn't agree more!

It depends on the boat and the crew. I sail on a boat with a symmetric kite but we are a very experienced crew. We have run spinnakers in winds gusting to 40kts without losing the boat (though I wouldn't recommend it). We happily run kites with a reef in. Mostly offshore when a lot of your speed is coming from waves and so the reef helps you keep in control. But we also do it inshore on short legs. If the wind is about about 20kts, a full main slows us down upwind as there is too much drag and you can only really go so fast anyway. so if there is a short downwind on the next leg, it's better to just keep the reef in as having the crew out of position to shake a reef and then put it back at the end slows us down more than just keeping it in.

@@gcm747 You mean the part that says, "gybe?"