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Why do they even have such a large sales team? It's not like they need to tailor products to consumers, and I feel like anyone who knows anything about web already knows CloudFlare exists and what it offers. They probably already hit market saturation with their primary products. It feels like they just grew is a weird direction way too fast, kind of what Steve Jobs was talking about with IBM.

Dang. He put Java in the trash tier, and here I am studying it as we speak. Personally I like it so far, but I guess time will tell. 😮😊

Saying that "you just need to be more mature" and "I got over addiction so I know what is working" is like saying "well, it works on my computer" That being said, there is something to be said about having an infantile outlook on life.

Trust and salesty

I just program a shiti file management shell and refactor it everytime to be less gatbage cause im a shit programmer

Sales isn't hard, it's just a grind of pushing through rejection.

Their CEO responds on twitter.

I wonder if the guy from the extended car warranty company ever got in contact with cloudflares sales team.

come on.. most Americans don't use WhatsApp

His free speech absolutism about to come crashing into his portfolio.

Oh no, cloudflare is hot garbage at heart. Color me surprised. If anyone wants to have their IQ drop, go to their subreddit and read people defending cloudflare.

It’s funny lmao, I kept thinking you look just like Charlie.

Yeah, I mean Yelp is still in business and continues to make a ton if money. They are the og of vulture like sales techniques. Pay or we only show the bad reviews!

so how does inflation factor into this? when people have more money going to service debt they have less money for new R&D or operations, and less licenses for stuff like Cloud Flar?

Ceos should also be fired for performance

I agree, comparing what's hard is pretty difficult. I served in the military, and the combat I was involved in was less stressful for me than serving tables after I left the military. Everyone has a different capacity for different stresses

I should be sleeping 😂

Almost like investor driven management is a bad idea and sick valuation has nothing to do with profitability.

3:57 this is really bad logic, which is fair since Prime isn't a finance guy and therefore knows very little about finance. Nothing only grows, 100% of the time. If they are overvalued, they probably need to fall a bit.

Shes in sales ?

They've done it like the john cena prank call

I love my vertical monitor, but the editor generally goes on my primary (horizontal) monitor, the vertical monitor is for terminals and debuggers and documentation.

I’ve learned working in health care administration that you just hang up when companies lie to you. If you were expecting trust and safety and it was sales, call over.

When you out too much pressure on the sales team, bad things happen.

If they already snatched a nice chunk of the market and great customers, it doesn't sound like pushing for more sales will pay off that well. There might not be that many potential customers left. If all the CEO has up his sleeve is pressure and rotate sales representatives, it means they're not considering different ways to offer value.

Thor called he wants his shorts video format back

You don't need to be a technical expert to know when someone is lying to you when you are paying attention. People don't have lots of specializations, but they manage to judge things and get through life. Sure, you can be lied to and misled. But you can also catch being lied to.

Their products are actually good. Dumbest part is that if they had a better pricing structure they might be able to earn some revenue off of their Fortune 500 customers. Probably would have given their sales team the ability to sell too.

Was out hiking last night, heard noises in the bushes, i walked faster, it was following me, stalking me. Just when i was sure a mountain lion was about to lunge, i hear "Hi, I'm Jim from Cloudflare sales,,,"

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With location information it might make more sense to store the raw data as spherical coordinates and then doing a cartesian conversion when presenting it back.

I'm on cloudflares side.

Calling C the fastest language and Python the slowest language is like calling a bicycle the weakest hauler and an 18 wheeler the heaviest hauler. I don’t need a license to ride my bicycle. I don’t need to fuel my bicycle. I don’t need to spend $250,000 on buying my bicycle. I don’t care if I only need to move 15 lbs. Fastest to run =/= fastest to use.

for me, talking people into buying product, while being measured and monitored sounds like the 7th circle of hell. At the same time, as an entrepreneur I understand that sales is mission critical so.. not sure there is another way to do it. I feel for those guys, it must be tough. +1 for calling out your Mom.. Moms are awesome.

Yes. You can have the AI know when the page changes. We discovered that it's easier to break the html down, remove css, JS, and then compile the style tags of each element into a JSON output and then feed it into the GPT model. It can either read the whole page or it can make it's own BS4 code to automate the page interactions.

I felt a bit like an impostor when I started out, but it wore off after a few months when I realized that I'm the GUY

imgaine the IQ test was actually a sexist thing. Check if they did it to their male employees

Anarchy economy takes no accountability to work force and development of human capital. Everyone more interested in gatekeeping than cultivating a strong workforce. No one gives a shit, everyone thinks they know the way ahead like they know the rules when there are no rules

I do like how 1 based index works for the classic pascal string type I used back in Turbo Pascal. The type has limitations (255 character maximum) but leaves the [0] index free to store the string length, which made sense and I thought would apply in other languages. This caused me great confusion when I learned that basic strings in C had to be scanned through to find their length or check how much memory was allocated, unless you explicitly stored the length. The pascal type makes any indexing follow common sense. "TIGER"[3] = "G". It also makes writing string parsing functions easy to implement in assembler, since you are setting up your scanning loop by loading the first byte, giving you a chance to check for zero, or otherwise invalid values, before proceeding with parsing, and with no risk of buffer overflows caused by expecting sane data. I guess that it doesn't really count as "1 based" indexing because the [0] index is actually present and implemented in a special way, meaning that technically the first character element of the string is actually the second data element in memory after the length byte, but the semantics I think matter less than the clarity of indexing. Pascal array declaration doesn't assume 0 or 1, it requires specifying a range, which can comprise of a variety of things like sets [car, apple, boulder, horse] or entire data types (boolean, char) but won't guess for you if you just say [100] and forget to specify if you meant [0..99] or [1..100] like DIM does in BASIC. I would frequently use mode 13h screen memory buffers, 320x200=64000 bytes in size, and always used buf[0..63999] for those and set pixels with buf[y*320+x]=color. For easy access to specific x,y pixel locations, I'd have another two-dimensional array type I could cast my buffer pointers to in the format buf[0..199][0..319] which maps perfectly on to the actual screen pixel locations, buf[y][x]=color which looked cleaner but then pascal was just forced to do its own multiplication under the hood. In the end, I would generally just precalculate a 200-element array with the results of YOffset[y]=y*320, then use the simple 64000 byte buffer like so: buf[YOffset[y]+x]=color which was the best I could optimize a putpixel without dropping down to inline assembler functions. Anyways, all that made me keenly aware of why 0-based indexing makes sense at a low level, especially if your index values are going to be used in math. Now I just use 0 by default and get used to thinking of it as "0 more than the first spot" and tolerate specifying a few ScreenWidth-1 and ScreenHeight-1s. I would only change the array range from 0 if I *actually* wanted a non-zero base, like when I wanted the origin (0,0) to be in the middle of the screen for 3D calculations or just for more ease implementing gravitation-like movements. I remember the struggle of debugging my early attempts with buf[-99..100][-159..160] and all the extra range checking because my maths kept overflowing my 16 bit registers in assembler.

these two have their heads in the sand. comments like "it's been available for 20 years" are naive.

“P/E doesn’t mean much these days” uh oh… where have I heard that before, 1999?

42:13 Maybe the true LAM was the friends we made along the way?

Dude needs to have a serious look at Nim instead of d**k riding Zig as a better C. Nim blows that language out of the water in every way

The problem as i see it, they have no proper tier system. Its free, 20, 200 and enterprise. With no specified limits, so if you get a 20 or 200 tier, when do you hit a limit, when does the reaper appear with a 10k/month "pay or be terminated". I see services pull that crap and it creates a instant "lets not use that service for critical infrastructure because the rules are unclear". Every story about CF pulling this "enterprise" crap, simply reinforces this unclearness and means lost potential clients who may have payed for a 500 tier, a 1000 tier, a 2000 tier, where they knew what limits are in place. But this "unlimited" (with hidden limits that can change one day to another, is a bane in the industry).

Spend your life honing your skills, becoming reliable, doing what you love. Success = give that up and do something you never learnt to do. Is ridiculous.

If you swap programming for cooking I think there are some issues following this approach if you take it too literally. However, avoiding too much hand-holding and micromanaging is certainly a good thing. I would recommend starting with full instructions and slowly leaving out larger and larger steps for them to figure out.

Sales team and management is the only friends

I agree Engineer != Manager

crazy he banned someone for that

Slippery slope is not a fallacy. In fact, anyone calling your argument a slippery slope fallacy is scared you’ve worked out their plan.