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I don’t see why not. I know some players aren’t keen on the use of allies (and quite a few tournaments disallow them), but as long as your opponents are happy with it then Wood Elves are an obvious choice to compliment Brettonians.

Yeah that'd work well! Not to mention its very lore friendly (as per 4th edition codex anyway) :D

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Agreed, it’s definitely likely to be a factor, though quite difficult to tell how it might be skewing the early data. For many reasons I expect that this will evolve some as the game settles and particularly as the rest of the Arcane Journals are released.

Hope you enjoy it when you get round to watching it. You are indeed correct, when you roll a 6 to hit with poisoned attacks you have to choose whether to take the automatic hit or risk it trying for armour bane. The question is, which choice maximises your chances to scoring an unsaved wound? That’s the question the video answers.

@@ScatterDieGuy I finally got around to watching it just now. Excellent analysis of the rules. The tables were very informative and the rules of thumb at the end certainly look like an excellent summary! Armour Bane 5 seems next to impossible to play with for my armies though, but they don't have too much poisoned attacks anyway :) That being said, if an opponent has a good armor save, elemental magic can make this story about poison a whole lot more interesting as well with its -2 saves spell. On a side note: lovely instrument in the back!

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Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching. That’s a great shout, I’ll take a look into it.

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@@ScatterDieGuy yup seconded! I tried to do the math for Hagbane vs Arcane Bodkins, but when I tried to factor in the Armor Bane of the longbow, plus potential additional AB from the Razor Standard, I just gave up.. So still can't figure out if I should put HG or AB on a unit with the Razor Standard..

I’ve 100% added wood elf arrow options to my list for future videos so will definitely be looking into this. As with this video, it’s unlikely to be a straight answer but will depend on the situation (who are you shooting at and what other effects are in play). Without having run the numbers, my gut is that against heavily armoured enemies the AP form Arcane Bodkins may be more valuable, particularly as this works with rather than against the Armour Bane you already have from the bow. If you are writing an all-comers list then the automatic wound from Poisoned Attacks with Hagbane Tips is probably still better against a lot of opponents, but I need to crunch the numbers properly to work out where the switchover point is.

@@liangweihao7932 - I would say go for Hagbane. Not all armies can even have access to 3+ (Beastmen, Woodelves). If you want something more "all comers", Hagbane might be best. I would say Hagbane is wasted on a unit with Razor Standard as well, since you get Poison on rolls to hit, but armour bane on rolls to wound (so your Poison hits will never be AP2). And, since I guess you are Woodelves, take a Wizard with Elementalism and the Lore Familiar. If you draw an opponent with high armour, then take Plague of Rust as one of your spells. If your opponent is a low armour faction, then take another spell. Units of Sisters of the Thorn are good too. They are effectively L2 Wizards with Lore Familiar, so again, take Plague of Rust as needed with them, cast, and let fly the poison.

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Thanks for commenting, glad you enjoyed the video. To clarify on this point, you only have to make the choice if you roll a 6 to hit. If you don’t, you would just carry on as normal, with a chance to activate Armour Bane as you would in any other circumstance. No part of this will effect what happens with those attacks, we’re only looking here at the scenario where you’ve already rolled a 6 to hit and need to decide for that specific hit whether to take the automatic wound or to chance it and try for Armour Bane. If you don’t roll the 6 to hit, you always have to roll to wound, so are always in with the chance of getter Armour Bane. Hope that makes sense?

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Absolutely agree that with this edition movement seems to be more important than ever before. That said, I personally wouldn’t want to change the Dwarf’s base movement characteristic. It’s fundamental to what Dwarfs are as an army. I’m hoping that over time more players will learn how to work around that limitation and maximise their many other strengths as a faction, and we’ll start to see the meta swing back in their direction a bit. Goat cavalry does sound cool though!

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Thanks for watching. Glad you found it helpful. I think the takeaway is if you’re just looking to have a good time, whatever you love is a good choice right now. If you are looking at competitive play, this meta gives us some tentative early indications of which factions might be slightly relatively stronger or weaker, but it’s definitely too early to be drawing any concrete conclusions.

Thanks for watching. Definitely think it’s a while until we get a clearer picture on any of this. Modern era GW definitely more open to making corrective tweaks where needed than in the old days, but I doubt we’ll see it for a while as the game needs time to settle.

Hopefully you’ll have better luck next time. Love Lizardmen, they were my first ever army when I started played 5th edition. Shame they aren’t being released as a core faction right now, but here’s hoping for the future.

It's a good time to pick it back up

Nice. I used to play tomb kings back in 6th edition but sold them all a few years ago. I’ve got Brettonians and O&G on the go at the moment.

Absolutely. Regardless of what the emerging meta implies, what seems clear is that we do have overall a fairly balanced game, and a strong player with a well picked list can find success with any faction right now.

Absolutely. There are a lot more tools than aggregated meta.

I believe they omitted factions with data for less than 60 games. I’m sure we’ll see more complete stats emerging over time.

@@ScatterDieGuymight be a wile if they are collecting dater from officel tournaments if they aren't allowing legacy factions especially chaos dwarfs that data will be screwed to a few players.

Thanks for the insight on that. It’s probably a good target and I would certainly expect it to narrow to that longer term if the game proves to be genuinely well balanced. With the currently relatively small dataset there is inherently going to be a higher variance so it might be a bit early just yet to judge against at this point.

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Thanks so much for your support. Charging (including swiftstride etc) is definitely in the works - I’m working on something a bit different for the next video, then that’ll probably be the one after, so hopefully along in a couple of weeks.

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Thanks for the support. Weapon choices are definitely on my list for a future video. Ultimately the “right” choice will often depend on the unit you are fighting against, but there’s definitely some good opportunity for a bit of mathematical analysis to give a good indication of which options are likely to serve you better in the majority of cases.

@@ScatterDieGuyAgreed! Another factor that goes hand in hand with this is unit formation and especially frontage width.

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Thanks for your comments on the video. Sorry to hear you’re not loving the new game. I guess it’s not for everyone, find what you love and embrace what brings you joy.

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Thanks so much for your comments. It means a lot to hear how people are finding these helpful. I’ll take the feedback onboard for future videos. In terms of tools, I’m mostly using Excel. For the big magic probabilities table in this video I wrote a Matlab script as it was easier to code in that than in Excel for that level of complexity, but 99% of the time you can solve most of these problems in any old spreadsheet package.

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