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@@jacobfavret1729 Thank you for your comment.

@@drstevennemes oh you coward, you’re only here for the guys that stroke your ego? You don’t want to engage with your own arguments? Cmon man, and you claim to be a theologian? Do you know what intellectual dishonesty is, I’m not trying to insult you but you just ran from someone addressing your arguments. Why? This is the problem with you anti-trinitarian, you have to cherry pick verses and play semantics then when someone comes with a shred of scripture you turn cheek and run. You understand that’s exactly what you did? Everybody saw it. Why do you have a CZcams channel? You want to callously lie to people or do you want to engage? Please keep my comments so others can read.

@@drstevennemes Steve, can you address my arguments on your page? Can you let us know what you’re arguing for? Is Christ a divine person of the Godhead? Was he made by God? Your followers are confused!

@@jacobfavret1729 Thank you for your comment. No, I’m not going to address your comments. I’m going to specifically ignore them. If you want to know what I’m arguing, you can watch the video or read the abstract in the description. If you want to know what else I think, you can read my published works or watch other videos on my channel.

@@drstevennemes Wow so why do you make videos? You want to spread lies about the Lord Jesus? Do you even agree with this garbage or do you enjoy touting your ego to a minority? As you couldn’t think of anything profound enough to write for the Glory of the Triune God. I’ll check out your other videos but this clique isn’t going to enjoy the way I engage with them. Already have one of the guys stroking you off lying about historicity claiming to know it. Don’t like my tone? Stop lying and repent.

Thank you for your comment. In response to your questions: 1. I am not inclined to subordinationist trinitarianism. In my book, I defend a kind of revisionist trinitarianism which has some resonances in Valentinianism and other gnostic-adjacent traditions. 2. I think you should go to church wherever you want, if they’ll have you. I would not cause trouble with others and probably keep my opinions to myself.

@@drstevennemes thank you for your response. I don’t know much about Valentinianism. Is it even possible to briefly sum up in one or two sentences the sort of revisionist trinitarianism you can defend? If that’s too difficult, I understand. Even though I’ve been a Christian for 35 years (the vast majority of my life), I struggle with the truth of Christianity for several reasons that you have interacted with recently. One being how “orthodox” Christianity seems to have arrived at a post-biblical concept of God, and another being just how very different Christian ethics and virtues are described in the NT in contrast to how YHWH is portrayed in Torah (as your video from a few weeks ago addressed). It all honestly makes me feel like the biblical authors were just making things up as they went. I’m familiar with progressive forms of Christianity that don’t require dogmatics or biblical inerrancy, but I’m curious about what compels you personally to maintain your faith? Why do you believe that Christianity is “true” at all? Thank you again for your engagement. I sincerely appreciate your work.

You’ve never read language in the NT that Jesus is coequal? Wow. I’ll give you from John to start then I will appeal to the OT, if you’re honest in your response you can keep coming back for more. John 5:22-23 “The Father judges no one, but has given all judgement to the Son, that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father.” Jesus is saying honor me as you honor my Father. How do you honor the Father, God Almighty? Worship, glory, praise. He’s saying give the same to the Son. One of the verses this guy ran from is Hebrews 1:8. Why? God the Father speaks to God the Son, “your throne, oh God, is forever and ever.” So not only is Jesus telling you to honor the Son as you honor the Father, the Father is giving Jesus the same worship, glory, and praise. In every gospel Jesus claims to be The Son of Man, not a son of man, but The Son of Man found in Daniel 7:13-14. A distinct person given a throne in Heaven seated next to The Ancient of Days, another distinct person, and given eternal dominion over all language, nation, and people. This is from an Old Testament passage written hundreds of years before Jesus. How do you anti-trinitarian grapple with this? The triunity of the Godhead is in every book of the Bible, but it takes “alternative readings” to see around it. Don’t believe me? Go look at my comment on this video. He runs from my arguments, and I bet he won’t address this either. It’s an open challenge, Steve!

@@jacobfavret1729 it’s someone ironic that the passage of scripture you chose to share demonstrates a clear handing down of authority from the Father to the Son. This is authority is not inherent, as one cannot be given what one already possesses. There are tons of passages like this in the NT, and they all demonstrate that the Father and Son are not “coequal”. The Son is given authority by the Father, can only do the will of the Father, doesn’t know all that the Father knows, and delivers the kingdom to the Father for the glory of the Father. There is clear subordinationist language all throughout the NT.

@@AaronGardner98 Wrong because the Son is eternally begot of the Father. Do you know what eternal means in Christian theology? You would have to make an argument that Jesus is created, so let’s see it. Otherwise your point is null. Now let’s go back to the text please. What does eternal dominion mean? Daniel is seeing a vision of Heaven, this didn’t happen a few hundred years before Jesus was on this planet it was recorded at that time. So your whole argument is bust, and unsubstantiated. You also don’t address Hebrews where the Father is glorifying the Son who existed BEFORE creation. This Jesus that existed before creation is telling you to glorify Him as you glorify God the Father in Heaven. So try again. See what I mean about honesty? I can’t move on because you want to stick yourself on your little Unitarian hill that doesn’t exist within the text. Are you arguing for modalism or arianism? You can’t have it both ways, and you certainly can’t make up your own theology. So let’s try again my man.

No, start appealing to the Greek. The Logos of God is distinct from Rhema, the spoken word. Don’t subscribe to this anti-trinitarian garbage. Consult your Bible then a priest if you’re seeking the Lord Jesus.

@@matthewcunliffe6500 Thank you for your comment.

Humility and anti-trinitarianism don’t mix. The Bible is clear on the triunity of the Godhead. This is why he has to present an alternative reading with the caveat of not addressing specific passages. Go look on my comment that he ran from, let’s see if one of you will be honest.

@@jacobfavret1729 Thank you for your comment. I address the passages you mention in my book, which I am reading from in this video. I invite you to buy it to find out what I say. I would offer to send you a copy for free, but you are too annoying and hostile. You don’t deserve it.

@@drstevennemes 😂😂 and you don’t deserve to have a platform that spreads lies and misinformation, if you want to play that game. Why don’t you address my comment man? If this is the correct reading you should have plenty of evidence to teach me from. But you can’t because it doesn’t exist, or you don’t want to be caught in a gotcha which is fine. Don’t like my tone? You’re posting on a public platform lies about the Lord Jesus and I’m called to correct you unto honesty and repentance. I wouldn’t read your book anyway man, but like I said if you provide a time stamp I’ll go watch it. But you didn’t, you ran. Surely a doctor of theology (still didn’t answer me on your credentials) can deal with the arguments of a 23 year old self taught apologist. The Truth is impossible to argue against though which is why we’re not going to get anywhere.

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Thank you for your comment. You can send me an email through my website: stevennemes.com

@@MichaelVFlowers wow! I hope you liked it! Which journal?

When they said to themselves “This saying is hard; who can accept it?” They were talking about something he hadn’t yet said?

@@johnbiggs7181 I believe they were responding to what Jesus had said previously because the following verse says they were gumbling about (this), which presumes it was something Jesus had previously said. It continues with Jesus knowing within himself what they were grumbling about. It implies Jesus knew their very thoughts. His reply was in direct relationship to what they were thinking or grumbling about and Jesus adds it was offensive. His reply in v62 to their grumbling and the offence has no relationship to eating his flesh and drinking his blood. It does have a clear relationship to what Jesus said previously that he was the bread that came down from heaven. They left him after his reply in v66 because it was this reply which was the straw that broke the camels back.

"will you also go away?" The Lord's question echoes through the ages, as a loving invitation to discover that only he has "the words of eternal life" and that to receive in faith the gift of his Eucharist is to receive the Lord himself.

@@joekey8464 Yes but the Eucharist does not change from being bread and wine. Christ is not locally present and that is true even if you accept what is called the real presence. Christ is really present but not locally present so in some way we are receiving Christ but how are we receiving him that is the question. Is he present in the bread and wine? Or by or through eating the bread and wine?

@@jotink1 Every single consecrated host is sacred to the church. The church believes that the host is the body of Christ. Christ is present in every tabernacle in a church. Adoration is meditation and prayer in front of a scared host. Eucharistic miracles show, bleeding hosts to be a tissue of a human heart with similar signs as those seen in tissue after the agony of death.

@@bluecollarphilo Thank you for your comment!

He won’t respond to you, he’s scared of Jesus’s eternal nature. He brushes past it in His video on John’s gospel giving an “alternative reading” to the word becoming flesh. He’s refusing to address my arguments as well. Can any Unitarian give a reply?

@@au8363 Thank you for your comment. I address that question in the video.

could you give me the time stamp

could you also tell me if you are a unitarian as in the sense of dale tuggy?

I am not familiar with you work.

Ridiculous Human soul and body are properties of the same nature human... Saying the divine person is present in hades is almost like the apollonarian heresy..replacing the divine person with his human soul/mind. Only the soul of a man descended to hades through the experience of death. Jesus regaining divine qualities / authority is also ridiculous since the fullness of God dwells bodily losing nothing not even authority if he was God in the sane sense as the father. He also wouldn't need to divest himself of anything divine,attribute, glory, authority since it never proves by doing this it will make him a man. You basically believe in a divine being with no divine authority assumed to human nature... still not a human being So everyone knows the day and hour? Are angels omniscient too? Only the Father is said to know..its not mutual knowledge one can have even if they all had the same divinity they are not the same person.

This is a bad refutation ngl.

Thank you for your comment. The only assumptions I make in this video are those which believers in the deity of Christ would take for granted. My point is to prove that the New Testament does not teach that Christ is by nature God.

@@drstevennemes You mean this? Philippians 2:7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. In other words Jesus was by nature God, but made Himself to be also in nature human. So are your argument that while walking on Earth, he was by nature only human? In other words argumenting against the catholics at 13:24? I think they are correct in this, that will say Jesus is 100% God and 100% human. It was his Earthly body that died and needed to live a sinless life to save us. The death alone was not the sacrifice, but the whole life Jesus came and lived was, as He completed the sinless life which no other human has been able to do. Hence only his human body needed to die while Jesus (aka the God nature was living on after his body died on the cross, as God is spirit and can not die.)

@@JamesAsp I address that passage in the next section of the chapter from which I was reading in this video.

@@drstevennemes Okay, because at 15:43 when they mentioned Jesus is ignorant of His second coming, I think that is a false understanding of scripture. Jesus relate to a wedding before saying it. I have been told that in Jewish tradition only the father know the specific time of a marriage (not literally but as respect for the father). Others had also to know the time, as they needed to travel and prepare for the feast. Because not even the Holy Spirit is said to know if only the Father knows...

@@JamesAsp I think that explanation about the wedding is made up. I don’t know where it came from, nor do I know of any sources that document it.

Thank you for your comment. I did not specify any definition of “apostle” in the video. 1. I made no claim about when the gospels were written. I do not think they were written before 70 CE. I think they were written in the second century. 2. I address this point in the video. 3. I address this point point in the video. 4. There is no point in setting up a system of government on the Titanic. If you are not convinced by that, then I don’t know what else to tell you. You are free to disagree with me. 5. I am not denying that the identification of a bishop and a deacon within each individual congregation is an early development. I deny that the distinction between the monarchical bishop, the local presbyters, and the deacons goes back to the beginning.

Thank you for your comment. I do not accept that Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, etc. have an apostolic foundation. At best we can say that they claim to have one, but so did other groups.

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Thank you for your comment. You do not seem to have watched the video. The people bow the knee before David in 1 Chr 29:20, as I referenced in the video. I recommend watching it before commenting.

@@drstevennemesDid the people pray to David, invoke his name or call upon him to receive their spirits when they die? And also, I watched your video before commenting, and perhaps you should have paid me the same courtesy of reading what I wrote before responding.

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@@Jano342000 Thank you for your comment. I’m glad you’re appreciating the videos. I don’t have concrete plans for the channel yet. For now, it’s just something to do during my son’s nap times during the summer vacation. 😅

@Gospel_of_Job _3.16 wrong!!!!! Name change in Hebrew life meant your status has chance dude. Jesus spoke Aramaic. When he first saw him he called him cephas which means rock in Aramaic. Matthew 16 is going back to Isaiah 22. In the old davidic kingdom the king had a royal steward. When he went away he had the power just like the king. That’s what Jesus appointing to peter. His royal steward on earth. John 21 15-17 we see this. Tend my sheep. Tend in Greek the verb means to shepherd. Peter was only one who Jesus prayed for and to strengthen his brothers. Protestantts can’t beat around the bush in Matthew 16. This was shown early in acts with peter. Peter finished his ministry in rome and this is where successors come from. All the early christians acknowledged this.

The overarching matter is personal transformation by the Holy Spirit (being born again of the Spirit). This personal transformation leads to full submission to God through Christ (not my will but Your will be done). Personal transformation is not the result of joining any organization on earth. It is a result of responding to the revelation of God's gift of His Son (John 3:16). In Matthew 16:18 Christ says on this rock He will build, and that requires a foundational truth. The truth that God revealed to Peter is the foundational truth. Therefore, Peter's confession is the foundational truth. And this confession is shown multiple times by the NEW believers of the Christ of the New Covenant church. Also, In the New Testament it says that Satan, the chief priests, and others who murdered Christ did not want to accept this truth. 1John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. Disciples confessed: Matthew 14:33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.” Samaritans confessed: John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world. centurion confessed: Mark 15:39 And when the centurion, who stood facing him, saw that in this way he breathed his last, he said, “Truly this man was the Son of God!” John the Baptist confessed: John 1:34 And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.” Nathaniel confessed: John 1:49 Nathanael answered him, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!” Martha confessed John 11:27 She said to him, “Yes, Lord; I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who is coming into the world.” Ethiopian eunuch confessed: Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Saul confessed: Acts 9:20 And immediately he proclaimed Jesus in the synagogues, saying, “He is the Son of God.” Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. Finally, new believers who confess have accepted the God’s gift of His Son the Christ, must continue to accept the truth that the Holy Spirit is revealing to them. Thereby building on the truth. Isaiah 28:9-10 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: Mark 4:24-25 NLT Then he added, “Pay close attention to what you hear. The closer you listen, the more understanding you will be given[a]-and you will receive even more. To those who listen to my teaching, more understanding will be given. But for those who are not listening, even what little understanding they have will be taken away from them.” As you accept the new truth of the HS then you become transformed. Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Hallelujah, By the power of Christ may we all be free from the Santanic bondage of cult mentality. Peter's confession is the rock. The overarching matter is personal transformation by the Holy Spirit (being born again of the Spirit). Personal transformation (being born again) is not the result of joining any organization on earth. It is a result of responding to the revelation of God's gift of His Son (John 3:16). In Matthew 16:18 Christ says on this rock He will build His congregation, and that requires a foundational truth. The truth that God revealed to Peter IS the foundational truth. Therefore, Peter's confession is the foundational truth of personal transformation. The foundational truth of who Jesus is: The Son of God. The Christ of God. The GIFT of God. Therefore, Peter's confession is the foundational truth. And this confession is shown multiple times by the NEW believers of the Christ of the New Covenant church. Also, In the New Testament it says that Satan, the chief priests, and others who murdered Christ did not want to accept this truth. 1John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. Disciples confessed: Matthew 14:33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.” Samaritans confessed: John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world. centurion confessed: Mark 15:39 And when the centurion, who stood facing him, saw that in this way he breathed his last, he said, “Truly this man was the Son of God!” John the Baptist confessed: John 1:34 And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.” Nathaniel confessed: John 1:49 Nathanael answered him, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!” Martha confessed John 11:27 She said to him, “Yes, Lord; I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who is coming into the world.” Ethiopian eunuch confessed: Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Saul confessed: Acts 9:20 And immediately he proclaimed Jesus in the synagogues, saying, “He is the Son of God.” Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. Finally, new believers who confess have accepted the God’s gift of His Son the Christ, must continue to accept the truth that the Holy Spirit is revealing to them. Thereby building on the truth. Isaiah 28:9-10 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: Mark 4:24-25 NLT Then he added, “Pay close attention to what you hear. The closer you listen, the more understanding you will be given[a]-and you will receive even more. To those who listen to my teaching, more understanding will be given. But for those who are not listening, even what little understanding they have will be taken away from them.” As you accept the new truth of the Holy Spirit then you become transformed by the Holy Spirit. This personal transformation leads to full submission to God through Christ (not my will but Your will be done). Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Hallelujah, By the power of Christ may we all be free from the Satanic bondage of cult mentality. Peter's confession is the rock. The overarching matter is personal transformation by the Holy Spirit (being born again of the Spirit). Personal transformation (being born again) is not the result of joining any organization on earth. It is a result of responding to the revelation of God's gift of His Son (John 3:16). In Matthew 16:18 Christ says on this rock He will build His congregation, and that requires a foundational truth. The truth that God revealed to Peter IS the foundational truth of personal transformation. Therefore, Peter's confession is the foundational truth of Christ's congregation. The foundational truth of who Jesus is: The Son of God. The Christ of God. The GIFT of God. Therefore, Peter's confession is the foundational truth. And this confession is shown multiple times by the NEW believers of the Christ of the New Covenant church. Also, In the New Testament it says that Satan, the chief priests, and others who murdered Christ did not want to accept this truth. 1John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. Disciples confessed: Matthew 14:33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.” Samaritans confessed: John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world. centurion confessed: Mark 15:39 And when the centurion, who stood facing him, saw that in this way he breathed his last, he said, “Truly this man was the Son of God!” John the Baptist confessed: John 1:34 And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.” Nathaniel confessed: John 1:49 Nathanael answered him, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!” Martha confessed John 11:27 She said to him, “Yes, Lord; I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who is coming into the world.” Ethiopian eunuch confessed: Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Saul confessed: Acts 9:20 And immediately he proclaimed Jesus in the synagogues, saying, “He is the Son of God.” Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. Finally, new believers who confess have accepted the God’s gift of His Son the Christ, must continue to accept the truth that the Holy Spirit is revealing to them. Thereby building on the truth and being transformed. Isaiah 28:9-10 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: Mark 4:24-25 NLT Then he added, “Pay close attention to what you hear. The closer you listen, the more understanding you will be given[a]-and you will receive even more. To those who listen to my teaching, more understanding will be given. But for those who are not listening, even what little understanding they have will be taken away from them.” As you accept the new truth of the Holy Spirit then you become transformed by the Holy Spirit. This personal transformation leads to full submission to God through Christ (not my will but Your will be done). Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

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Do you have any evidence to refute the claim?

@@michaelspeyrer1264 yes, the utter lack of evidence for it.

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