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Completely agree that NVMe M.2 is the way forward. However, anything over 2TB requires some hoops to jump through to get it to boot due to the MBR limitations in the default Raspberry Pi boot images.

Here's the thing: While the price per TB might be similar, decent NVMes _start_ at 250GB. I rarely if ever need that sort of capacity for the kind of applications where a Pi is good enough. I can get a high quality 32GB microSD card for quarter the price of the cheapest decent NVMe. And that's ignoring the fact that the cheapest NVMes are 2280 and you have to pay a pretty heavy premium for the smaller ones required by the official adapter. Oh, and you also have to buy the adapter. Sure, there are some applications where an NVMe makes sense, but using microSD cards on the Pi is far from over.

Ha! I still have my MDD G4 that I bought as a demo from Apple Australia back in the day. The power supply fans were objectionable back then too, and I dropped about $300 on a couple of German Vertex fans that you could buy as a kit. Just nuts, the money I spent on this thing when it was new. I did run 4 drives and 2 DVD drives in it for a while, just because I could. Mine has a very cool satellite simulator on it, shows all the orbits and the footprints in real time... It was pretty intense back then and we always felt like our backs were against the wall fighting off the Windows crowd, but it was worth it and I think it was a good fight.

Great video. Random trivia: per developer John Calhoun, the game "Glypha" is pronounced like in "hieroglyphics". Killer Joust clone.

I'll have to disagree.. there's no argument that nvme drives are faster, yet it's not much faster than a SATA SSD 800mb/s... really? is it only using one PCIe lane? M.2 devices inherently do not have an simple way of being removed and swapping out and with a good locking mechanism so they don't fall out. I don't even know if the M.2 spec has a hot swapping support like SDcards do since after all it's a direct connection to the PCIe bus.

You can get 256gb and 512gb used SUPER cheap because the market gets flooded by people who've upgraded their laptop's storage

The MicroSD was wrong in the first place. It should have been just the SD card if wanted for something easy and simple to backup and replace on the quick manner, or test various different software systems. MicroSD is meant for phones, tiny digital cameras, tiny electronic devices, but not for a dedicated computer like a NAS. We should have kept MicroSD on every single phone. So that we can easily just swap and move data to another without cables and without even having device On. For tiny cameras, like Panasonic GM1, it should have gotten dual MicroSD slots (two circuits for writing/reading etc etc). But more importantly, the MicroSD would have made possible to take card from camera and put it in a phone, access files and back to camera. Same is with 5.25", 3.5" and 2.5" drives on PC. Everything should have been from the start designed to be without cables, just push to slot and have it connected there. So when you need to manage data, just pull drive out and new in. No cables.

What's the point of this video? NVMe is better? But everyone knows that.

Hi, Thank you for such a detailed video... I have raspberry Pi 4 and Raspberry pi 5 and the HQ camera module ... in the configuration/interfaces camera is not showing...can you suggest any fix...thank

Just threw all my micro SD cards in the trash because I like to keep up on current trends! I can't use my GoPro or 3d printer anymore (well, and my RasPi 3 and a bunch of other stuff too) but it's a small price to pay for being cool.

Has LMG been rehabilitated well enough for that "segue to our sponsor" joke? My opinion of you dropped instantly on hearing it. I'm not even sure if I'm going to keep watching the video...

Anyone who wants to eat, must produce something customers are willing to pay.

Thank you 😊

From where i stand it seems pretty easy to flash the emmc module from within the booted board just using the dd command

Pfft Casual, I only use an FPGA board with a battery programmed as a controller to effectively let me use RAM as storage, like that old gigabyte card, but with 128GB ECC DDR4 LRDIMMs.

nice video

how are microsd cards compared to nvme in terms of read speed per watt

To our Sponsor! No *heh* There's no sponsor. Lol 😆 best guy ever

the raspberry pi is like the 'Hello Fresh' business model. The kit is meant to give people a taste of something, and if they like it, keep selling it to them. The Pi is similar in this respect because; it is an easy way to get into the hobby without trying to figure out all the hardware stuff themselves. A few hundred bucks is not that bad for a hobby, and if the customer does not like the hobby, there is not a tremendous loss in giving it up.

Parts list?

If would be nice if these kind of boards could make use of PCIe fabrics

They should use a bit of ergonomics

The problem with Ubiquiti that I don't like is that they don't support ONVIF, so you have to buy their hardware. The commentary says "well, they don't make money on the Protect software on their UDM, so they want to sell you cameras to profit. But my response to that Is that I'd be happy to may Ubiquiti for an ONVIF license to help pay for the development.

You got me with the sponsor bit. I was about to skip.

Quake 3 issue is due to the resolution.. you need to alter the .bat file most likely

SD card still better than HDD

When the debt crisis reaches its peak, and every single inhabitant of this planet has sacrificed 15-30% (hell, it might be 80% or 180% or 1800% by the time they let it break) of their buying power and they have thrust this debt on the 7th generation from us… The demand we make is for them to make open source all technology that was created in such a short time by maintaining an era of hyper-debt. The Money Question which went into full swing in 1873 because Japan and China were on the silver standard and the US and UK despite all their machinery could not keep up, and now they are printing money as fast as they possibly can hoping that technology will save us from the calamity we made for ourselves and is ironically best solved by free and open information and technology to independent people across the globe to use it as best serves their needs, and as they communicate, they come up with better and better long term solutions. Inflation and technology have gone hand in hand for over 200 years, and the sooner we stop choosing temporary expedient solutions in one or the other, the sooner we will have rapid and sustainable growth after a short period of pain for those hoarding all of the commodities and intellectual property to not be stuck as one of the poor miserable masses caught in a boiling cauldron of ignorance due to the greed of a few who had one really great idea that profited them enough to buy up everyone else’s great idea… Certain Intellectual property should NOT be transferable to a single entity for the purposes of profit. Inheritance is one thing, but to sell advances in technology that has the potential to divide like budding and create exponential advances for mankind are an entirely different thing. We should instead have a system in which worthy bidders are democratically selected, and several competitors should be created from such an auction. If you need to sell, or it’s time to sell, wouldn’t you rather it be held in escrow, so that you get your cash out, and the world receives your gift?

I love your videos Jeff. Keep doing what you're doing.

And how in the world should I guess this is about Raspberry Pie? Well, at least I do know what that is, but the majority of people don't.

On point. As a "semi" free loader, I have only contributed to a very few projects in my 30 years in business. Very few bug repots and even fewer code contributions. I do understand the businesses want to make money. Most of us do, but as you point out honesty would come a long way. If the companies were honest about their plans from the start, us free loaders could close the "right" projects and not get rug pulled as you so eloquently put it.

they should make a case box with bottom fan to blow cool air upwards.

I wondered if phones and tablets were upgrading to NVME slots instead of mircroSDs but then found this was a Raspberry Pi thing. LOL I've been wanting to mess with Raspberry pies for years, but never got down to it, I'm too comfy with my big PC and have no real use for them other than to say "I have".

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I'm not sure about people's use cases. I boot rpi4 from sd and have an attached usb3 external drive for storage, it is mostly used as a nas, torrents etc. I know that I could do faster and more redundant etc but I honestly never feel a real world limitation. I am not moving enormous files over the network all the time. I can easily stream the highest bitrate video I can find etc.

Jeff, most LSI cards do require PCIe x8 or they won’t even boot. In some rare cases x4 does work but it depends on the board.

ok, I fell for the clickbait, this is PURELY a PI video the humble microSD is not worth ditching yet, it still works for cameras and phone expansion and even in most retro uses like the Wii or similar in fact if we are talking about "one card to rule them all" I would stick with microSD, it has the performance that pretty much any swappable low-write application needs(notice I did not fully exclude writes, just limited in speed and number of re-writes) if you need faster cards(like for 4k/8k video recording) I suspect that we should simply adopt cf-express cf-express is basically NVME in a hot-swap case(literally passive adapters that turn m.2 nvme into cf-express are a thing) and NVME is basically all the speed anyone currently needs or likely will ever need before we ditch silicon-based tech entirely for something more sci-fi(assuming you have a gen-4 x4 drive and some way to saturate that link) so yeah, NVME is great, but remember the cost of an sd card at the same size vs an NVME drive? yeah, if your application is fine with SD don't bother with NVME I myself wish for a bunch of CF-express type drives(multiple slots in my desktop+server, and a few stuck-on slots on my laptop(maybe inside the bottom case somehow)) for me to take my games drive and stuff with me, and be able to sync data at max speed to a raid that dumps a snapshot onto a cheap HDD I can shove in a fireproof pelican case to store at my parents house for the 3-2-1 backup rule I would not trust any solid-state storage for archival use, the data decay is just too fast for safe storage if you must go cheap, it turns out a cold magnetic storage drive(ie unpowered) stored in a cool dry place(like a mountain cave vault, a real thing) is the best solution, if you need less expensive than a pelican full of brand new hard drives you just loaded with periodic backups and stored in your parents cool dry basement is safe enough plus with them always asking where their photos are you could set up a NAS that simply shows up on their phone, and you can use that as part of teh 3-2-1 backup rule, then the pelican gets shoved in the basement of your grandparents or similar

Avoid SanDisk / WD SSD's - the quality went away some years ago - and you're seeing evidence of it

is that a geometry dash reference?!?!?!

But… my micro sd… fits in my phone…. =(

would be cool if someone vendor can come up with better fans and enclosure for this

So the bottom line is, benchmark with Linux. 😎 Actually, benchmark with what you’re going to be using in real life 👨🏼‍🏫

I have that same QNAP switch (which btw, you can setup vlans on if you're willing to flash a modified fw to it).. I use the SFP+ ports to bridge between it and my mikrotik (which also has 2 SFP+ ports) and the devices i put 2.5G networking on. works well at full ~2.5G speed even w/ USB nics.

I can actually afford a $12 hat. It's nice that it's available as a first party option.

I do have a question on this one, since I'm on Pc and have a nas AND spent an entire weekend ripping half my movies to my new drive (12TB is really nice I tell ya lol), I cant for the life of me get jellyfin to play from the media player itself( Have to use another program to watch it) on either my PC or my Terrormaster NAS(it says its a "server" but nothing else if that makes sense)Good video thou, I love Jellyfin!

At this point I have zero reason to not just buy a thin client PC instead of a Pi

I'll give up MicroSD when I can get a hat and NVME drive for $16 total, that's what I paid for the Samsung 128GB Pro endurance SD card that's 10% full on my HA box.

You got a thumbs up just for the sponsor joke lol

Im getting 2500-3-- mb/s read write speeds with hdparm on my SSD hat. Did the config file fix

Your videos are so good Jeff. Thank You

I dropped a dual argon fan Hat with the SSD hat ontop of that and the SSD hat has an argon fan on that as well. I have NEVER seen my Pi5 hotter then 130F Its literally never throttled. I have heat sink on it too. Thing is f--king money man. Works so well without a single issue yet. My Pi4 still works perfectly. Both 8GB RAM models. I use them both all the time