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I'm an Electric Unicycle enthusiast. Somehow they have taken over my life :-) Here you'll find ride videos, equipment reviews, repair videos, and anything else related to the most fun transportation device ever created.
KingSong S16 BMS Bricked And Then Fixed
I update the KingSong S16 firmware which bricks the BMS. After weeks of frustration Roger is able to bring it back to life. Here is the journey.
Use this link to buy your next EWheels EUC, and thanks for your support! www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke
Chapter Index:
00:00 Introduction
04:05 Opening the S16
05:08 Removing the control board cover
06:40 Battery cable pass-throughs
07:40 Removing the display board
08:52 Disconnecting all cables
10:14 No seals on the phase cables pass-through
10:45 All cables disconnected
11:25 Removing control board assembly
11:48 Removing speakers
12:49 Control Board assembly is removed
13:42 The next day
14:24 Battery cable grommets
15:37 Removing the top of the battery case
16:35 Removing the bottom of the battery case
18:38 How to remove the batteries from their cases
23:07 Inspecting the battery
23:40 Resetting the BMS
27:06 Roger picks up the wheel
28:49 Roger fixes the BMS!
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For a complete list of all the equipment, tools, and associated "stuff" that I use, please visit my equipment webpage: www.electricunicycleworld.com/p/my-equipment.html
Interested in joining me on any Southern California rides? Join my Telegram group for all the latest ride information. Send me an e-mail (my name @ gmail.com) and I'll send you the Telegram link.
I support EWheels. Why? Because of their selection, price, and perhaps most importantly, Jason's dedication to customer satisfaction and his ongoing support of the community. If the website doesn't list what you are looking for, give them a call. Use this link which lets them know that I've referred you: www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke
Use this link to buy your next EWheels EUC, and thanks for your support! www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke
Chapter Index:
00:00 Introduction
04:05 Opening the S16
05:08 Removing the control board cover
06:40 Battery cable pass-throughs
07:40 Removing the display board
08:52 Disconnecting all cables
10:14 No seals on the phase cables pass-through
10:45 All cables disconnected
11:25 Removing control board assembly
11:48 Removing speakers
12:49 Control Board assembly is removed
13:42 The next day
14:24 Battery cable grommets
15:37 Removing the top of the battery case
16:35 Removing the bottom of the battery case
18:38 How to remove the batteries from their cases
23:07 Inspecting the battery
23:40 Resetting the BMS
27:06 Roger picks up the wheel
28:49 Roger fixes the BMS!
Visit my Amazon Store for quick links to much of my gear: www.amazon.com/shop/electricunicycles
For a complete list of all the equipment, tools, and associated "stuff" that I use, please visit my equipment webpage: www.electricunicycleworld.com/p/my-equipment.html
Interested in joining me on any Southern California rides? Join my Telegram group for all the latest ride information. Send me an e-mail (my name @ gmail.com) and I'll send you the Telegram link.
I support EWheels. Why? Because of their selection, price, and perhaps most importantly, Jason's dedication to customer satisfaction and his ongoing support of the community. If the website doesn't list what you are looking for, give them a call. Use this link which lets them know that I've referred you: www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke
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Begode Falcon Trail Test
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Roger and Chris test the capabilities of the Falcon on the trails at the Fullerton Loop Chapter Index: 00:09 Introduction 01:02 Loose hill challenge 03:36 Steep short hill 05:35 Hill drop & climb 07:19 Roger's transfers the test to Chris 10:37 Chris loves the Falcon 11:38 Tree stump jumps 13:08 Downhill run 15:05 Railroad tracks 16:14 More thoughts from Chris 17:37 Steep and long hill 20:30 Led...
More Begode Falcon Rider Impressions
zhlédnutí 4,8KPřed 14 dny
Prior to the Falcon trail ride challenge I offer it to a few local riders to get their first impressions. Use this link to buy your next EWheels EUC, and thanks for your support! www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke Visit my Amazon Store for quick links to much of my gear: www.amazon.com/shop/electricunicycles For a complete list of all the equipment, tools, and associated "stuff" that I use, please visi...
Falcon First Ride - Wobbles & Pads - in 360°
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On my first Falcon ride I deal with wobbles and poor fitting pads Watch the non-360° version of this video here: czcams.com/video/tjVm6FWg4KM/video.html Use this link to buy your next EWheels EUC, and thanks for your support! www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke Visit my Amazon Store for quick links to much of my gear: www.amazon.com/shop/electricunicycles For a complete list of all the equipment, tools,...
EUC Valve Cores - Losing Air?
zhlédnutí 1,1KPřed 21 dnem
I provide some examples of bad valve cores that cause slow air leaks in your tires. Use this link to buy your next EWheels EUC, and thanks for your support! www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke Visit my Amazon Store for quick links to much of my gear: www.amazon.com/shop/electricunicycles For a complete list of all the equipment, tools, and associated "stuff" that I use, please visit my equipment webpage...
Falcon First Ride - Wobbles & Pads
zhlédnutí 3,3KPřed 21 dnem
On my first Falcon ride I deal with wobbles and poor fitting pads Watch the 360° version of this video here: czcams.com/video/nLsA_ebEVzc/video.html Use this link to buy your next EWheels EUC, and thanks for your support! www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke Visit my Amazon Store for quick links to much of my gear: www.amazon.com/shop/electricunicycles For a complete list of all the equipment, tools, and...
Begode Falcon Rider Impressions and the A2
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Here are some raw first impressions of the Falcon from some A2 riders Use this link to buy your next EWheels EUC, and thanks for your support! www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke Visit my Amazon Store for quick links to much of my gear: www.amazon.com/shop/electricunicycles For a complete list of all the equipment, tools, and associated "stuff" that I use, please visit my equipment webpage: www.electric...
How To Adjust The Falcon Suspension
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I show how the Begode Falcon suspension is adjusted to fit your riding style Use this link to buy your next EWheels EUC, and thanks for your support! www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke Visit my Amazon Store for quick links to much of my gear: www.amazon.com/shop/electricunicycles For a complete list of all the equipment, tools, and associated "stuff" that I use, please visit my equipment webpage: www.e...
Begode Falcon First Impressions
zhlédnutí 5KPřed měsícem
I unbox the new Begode Falcon and provide a close-up look and my first impressions. Read the independent labs test report here: drive.google.com/file/d/16sG7YejIxQKj2-0ZrNRzmtpG_jxN25RR/view?usp=sharing Use this link to buy your next EWheels EUC, and thanks for your support! www.ewheels.com/MartyBacke Visit my Amazon Store for quick links to much of my gear: www.amazon.com/shop/electricunicycle...
Master Pro Mountain Ride - April Snow
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Master Pro Mountain Ride - April Snow
GT Pro Final Review and Mountain Rescue
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Dawn Champion Tests The Commander GT Pro
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Dawn Champion Tests The Commander GT Pro
Awesome ! 🤙
What gear does Alan have on? The upper body armor looks pretty slick, in the market for something similar. Thanks for the first impressions vid!
I’m certain You know that almost every tire has a heavy point and it needs to be balanced, Did you ever consider to try balance the tire of your EUC with balancing weights or balance bits, maybe unbalanced tire is the main cause for wobble. Car and motorcycle tires are always balanced prior to mounting them back on a vehicle, if they are not balanced guess what happens, you get wobble, on a car and just as on a motorcycle alike.
Great video 👍 This video may have to have changed my mind. I didn't think this wheel would be that capable. I want a small wheel for trail riding vs my heavy Master. And if you can do all that on a street tire! Cheers
It's performance that day surprised everyone and has convinced many that it's a wheel they could have fun with it. I thoroughly like it.
Light trail wheel👍
No thank you sir! I do not ride at NIGHT! Last time I rode at night, I had a pack of werewolves chasing after me, and I barely got away, and I was on a CB300f Honda motorsickle. Even though meow I'm on a cb500f I still won't ride at night let alone a small euc Falcon. Don't want to be eaten by werewolves or turn into one. Would be cool, but I want to control my transformation, and I don't think I would have that luck in that case. So I stay way from riding at NIGHT!
Better than the ex30 lol
When I started riding ( Gotway MSX) years ago, I found the answer to wheel wobble was removing any gap between EUC and leg, by adding hard foam as high as possible. My legs then "hug" the wheel, and prevent wheel wobble. The Falcon is not as tall as the MSX, so there is less for the legs to "hug", so there's less leg leverage, and hence harder to stop wheel wobble? As an Engineer, I'd guess the simplest solution is maybe something to increase the height, for legs to hug? (maybe some modification to the extended handle would do the job?)
What do you think the range of the GT Pro+ 4400wh will be? At least 100 miles?
I Strongly believe this is the best EUCs in performance, weight and potability as the Teslas T2 T3 series (Pound for pound one of the BEST EUCs.) Sensei Vegan and I agree on this. Good one Gotway/ Begode, as all the other EUCs manufactures forgot about Weight, size, speed and portability. Thanks for the video guys. Cheers from Northern NJ.
ya'll crazy. love it!
Marty is your >Lynx 50s or 50e battery version ?
50e
As an S16 owner, I found this tutorial most illuminating. I have updated the BMS firmware [via the Android app] two or three times, since I have had the wheel, and have had no issues thus far. I'll keep my fingers crossed 🤞
Lol, put the top bolt in first man.
How much is it?
~$1600
Every time I go on a ride with you that I haven’t been on it turns out to be the best one yet, they just keep getting better and better 😁 thanks again for taking me on all these amazing journey’s 🙏🏼
Thanks Chris 🙂
That looks so fun guys, the wife and I went on our first group ride through Stanley Park in Van BC last weekend. We had a blast. It’s such a good way to meet great people. Have fun guys and stay safe out there.
👍
A most magnificent ride. My gosh that was fun. Longest ride I have ever done. Marty is the best.
It truly was an amazing and beautiful ride! Always great to ride with you 🤙🏼
Brighter than the ET max 😂😂
Try taking this one up the mountain like you did the a2
That’s really good
I wasn’t expecting this from the Falcon!
Giddy up, I get mine in the next 2 weeks.
After all my issues with the s22 and now seeing your problems with the s16 I will never get another kingsong wheel again. I love all my Begode wheels 💪🏼 loved the shotgun sound affect too lol
lol they put goop where they wanted a boot noice
I printed another file that replaces the whole jump pad, but the part that attaches to the wheel is kind of flimsy in TPU, as compared to the original. I like the looks of this design, which just covers the original parts, which will make the pads more stable. I'll have to give this one a try
My ks s16 BMS update was rough,, I got an email from ewheels telling me to update the BMS immediately because flawed firmware will make my cells go to zero rendering the battery useless, during the update it stopped twice, I had to restart,, eventually it went through and it updated to the latest BMS firmware 188 ,, I'm glad I didn't have to go through this
I picked up a brand new commander mini 50s for only 2k from a local guy selling it ...only had .9 miles! Loving it!
took like 10min to update my s22 last time
I had the same issue with the BMS 1.85 and there was only one battery pack that had a problem so I reset the BMS only on the one that had a problem. Since I had tried to downgrade the BMS to 1.82 and it didn't do it on the BMS in problem so when the reset was done and the wheel was up, I had to do the firmware 1.82 install so that the 2 BMS were at the same version. The problem with the firmware is that in the Kingsong App, it tells you that a newer version exist and you can install or cancel the firmware update. But when you use an iPhone/iPad with the SoftTuner App, you can upgrade/downgrade any of the firmware but you see that those latest versions are beta versions, so I guess you don't ever upgrade a BMS to a beta version. I did the display firmware upgrade to get the right display that I wanted, speed on top with the battery life on the bottom. With older display firmware, you would only see the battery life when the wheel stoped.
The S16 is a puzzling wheel, on the outside it looks like KS is upping their game, but after some use and disassembly, it clearly has a lot of vestiges of EUCs made 2-3+ years ago. It's like a pig with makeup. That's too bad, it seemed really promising.
king song should really make a budget version of this....shaving of the stupid pads,speakers and all the stupid bling,bling,make the lcd smaller for godsake...something like on the v122....probably they will get to 1700 usd for this...we dont need stupid stuff.uneffective things....there will be a lot of room for good pads then...
my dad is the only guy in turkey that sels euc and he says dont update the latest update it brokes the censors of the wheel
For a newer rider would you recommend the KS S16 or the Begode T4?
That's a tough call. You really can't go wrong with any wheel. I do think the S16 is a more approachable first wheel and is certainly capable enough (do get the Pro version if you go that route). Depending on your ultimate needs you will outgrow either wheel.
Wait what? Did you say it's the 1st kinngsomg that you can update the firmware from the app? Surely I heard that wrong
Bro..... of all people you should know this!!! Kingsong firmware has been updateable since near the start. Way before begode Come on marty..... have you been that into gotway that you didn't even know the most basic about ks? Ffs mate lol
Sorry mate but that got the 1st evenr thumbs down from me
No, I said S22
Maybe watch again and listen to what I said with a more critical ear and be willing to give someone a little bit of slack. I'm not a KingSong hater and have continuously owned KingSong wheels for the last 8-years. "I think the S22 was the first KingSong wheel that allowed you to update the firmware via the app. I'm not positive about that" My exact words. I'm curious, you could update the KS14S firmware via their app? That was my 2nd wheel that I owned.
@ElectricUnicycles ... Yes, even even way back with the 14S the FW could be updated by the app.
Learning about BMS and how the batteries are assembled, very important content to understand the manufactures and wheel. reset buttons pretty cool. I know v11s have a reset button on the BMS too. I had the pleasure to fiddle inside them.
Before you dig into it, make sure you get what's called a "spudger" in the industry - the wooden tool (they come in various shapes) so you can feel, poke around, actuate, etc things in a non-conductive way. I just wanted to add that so when you are looking for tools you can get right to them (25+ years as an engineering technician in industry, IPC trained/certified debug/solder tech); it's an obscure name but that's exactly what it's called. You can split up tongue depressors too but chopsticks are usually a bit fat unless you carve 'em. Spudgers be cheap and strong tho...
Roger hast to make a video course for us mere mortals
Which application did you update with? softtuner or kingsong? You can reset BMS with soft tuner.
Don't forget the screen is 16x16. kingsong is fooling us
I was using Softtuner of course with instructions from KingSong
I had a gotway which I had to strip down and after seeing the crap quality and hassle of trying to get the correct replacement board I vowed to never buy a gotway again so I bought the S16P. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. I wish these wheels were Japanese or German made, Chinese engineering has always sucked and software a last minute afterthought
I had this issue with my s16 pro. I kept tueing it off and on and leaving redownload again several times and after about 5 hours the erorr code was gone and it updated just fine. My experience with kingsongs software was waful and this js my first weel... not sure J I want kingsong anymore. I lean more on inmotion as quality.
Man, when i first got my s16 pro i got a BMS error so i updated the firmware, kingsong app failed but wheel still worked. Jason recommended softtuner and that worked. Since then ive updated all the firmware several times using kingsong app and had no issues. Sucks you had to go thru all that but thanks for recording the process for us.
Again Roger for the win 🫡
I could never do any of this. Straight avoid for me.
In summary, the BMS wasn't really bricked. I guess it did not fully finished updating the BMS and the wheel was disturbed probably by turning it off/on and failed to fully reboot. There was no trade secret, Roger even mentioned that he really didn't do anything on the wheel and he just updated the firmware using a different device and the BMS got updated. It's just like updating a smartphone, sometimes it will tell you that the phone will turn on and off several times and it's perfectly normal so don't disturb the process and wait for the update to complete.
I've updated lots of KingSong wheel firmware. It often hangs. I'd still be waiting if I didn't reboot the wheel :-) Yes, of course there's no trade secret. I'm just having some fun with Roger :-)
@@ElectricUnicycles Cool 🤙
eesh... no thanks.
You guys are rock stars.
I only update firmware if my wheel is under warranty.
Another nail in the KS coffin. Mobo/batt removal seems a fair bit of work & not much fun plus this bms bricking OTA update dont inspire much confidence. KS is close to being dead to me but goodluck to others
Falcon gets a leg up after seeing this 😳.