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Ian Green
Registrace 6. 12. 2022
Everyone’s saddle bag should look (something) like this!
Ortlieb micro two and Silca saddle bags for mechanical or electronic groupsets. Everything you should consider putting in your saddle bag so you are not left stranded!
This is where I purchased my bags but be sure to check with your local bike shop first to see if they carry them or can order it for you!
www.backcountry.com/ortlieb-micro-two-saddle-bag
silca.cc/products/mattone-grande?variant=39472336339042¤cy=USD&srsltid=AfmBOooI4Vqd5gBFhs6BviZ0tsvczMPY-LtwFBR3UR5cDX9hSsCmrxEWIa8
This is where I purchased my bags but be sure to check with your local bike shop first to see if they carry them or can order it for you!
www.backcountry.com/ortlieb-micro-two-saddle-bag
silca.cc/products/mattone-grande?variant=39472336339042¤cy=USD&srsltid=AfmBOooI4Vqd5gBFhs6BviZ0tsvczMPY-LtwFBR3UR5cDX9hSsCmrxEWIa8
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Unboxing the $450 Selle SMP F30C s.i
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Can a racing saddle with zero padding provide perennial relief? And a comparison to the SQ labs 612
You can mix tubeless sealant! Silca vs Stan’s regular
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You can mix sealants. My experience with silca sealant and how I believe it has a ways to go before being considered the GOAT of tubeless sealants. Can Stans regular sealant seal tires running pressures of 50psi?
Interesting that at 185 lbs youre running 55/ 50 psi, im running yhe same, but at 250 lbs 🧐
if they cut off that front section probably it look more delicate. i am not understand why they made that saddle nose and what purpose make it bend like that who will use that front section either. most ride on saddle are sit on the back side.
How do you rate the Orange Seal endurance a year on?
@@blondebier still my favorite sealant. The only thing I’ve done differently is added old dried up sealant (kind of chopped up into small pieces) to the tire when I replace it or replenish the sealant. It works really well to clog bigger punctures and it doesn’t cost me anything extra and it doesn’t make a mess which is nice. I’m going to be trying black ox sealant and Milkit next. I’m hearing amazing things about those two brands. Safe riding!
Nice video ! At first I wondered if the washers were designed to add a small degree of angle adjustment. I like your ti bike and handlebars. Who makes the bars ? They would look nice on my Moots.
That’s initially what I thought as well! The bars are made by James at Black sheep cycles. He makes some wildly cool handlebars, forks, complete bikes, the guy is a master with titanium, they would surely look good on a Moots! Safe riding!
My Ritchey was $18 at a garage sale. It’s really, really nice. The lady who sold it was getting divorced. She didn’t know what it was….
Damn now that is the deal of a century. She didn’t happen to have any extra bikes did she ?😂
@@ian_pedalz I wish. To be fair, I had no idea what it was either. I knew it was something special. I can’t believe it was steel! It was SSSOOO light! I’ve done some research since.
can you say how you adjust the angle for you right?
Getting the angle right is probably the only hard thing in that it takes a bit of time but it’s easy to do. I started in small increments, I did 5mm of drop, 10mm of drop and than 15mm and I tried 20mm of drop (nose down) but immediately didn’t like that (to much pressure on my wrists)and ultimately decided on the middle point between 10-15mm at 12.5mm of drop. This has the saddle in the perfect position for me. To be honest bother 10 and 15mm were really comfortable so I could of ended the trial much sooner, but I figured why not just meet in the middle.
dayum 🔥🔥 i got one grey color
I loved the gray when it came out, if I didn’t just purchase a TI bike back then I would of pulled the trigger on that. It’s a such a classic color for that steel frame! Safe riding thanks for commenting!
Looks gorgeous in the deep red! Lovely!!
Thank you! It’s heard to pickup with the phone camera but in the sun, in person, it’s on another level!
the only reason not to get an smp saddle is if you like to slide back and forth on your seat.
SMP saddles hold you in place like no other, it’s really nice to have that natural curvature of the pelvis represented in the saddle, super comfortable on hills and really nice when sprinting out of the saddle and making quick returns back to the saddle where you want to be in the same position every time. What SMP saddle are you running?
@@ian_pedalz agree, I have the glider and I have no complaints.
@@frank6250 I have not tried that one yet, but you arnt the first person to suggest and really like theirs! Safe riding!
I am tempted but the geo chart shows a really long toptube for the 59… how tall are you?
I’m 6’ on the dot, this build has -7 degree stem with a 40mm stack height and 30mm of stackers (which) I believe is the max. The headset also adds about 15mm depending on which you use. What are you on now?
Would be really interested to hear your thoughts on this saddle, and especially how it compares to the SQlabs. I really likes the 612 ergowave but found that it didn’t stabilise my pelvis as well as an SMP Nymber, or a Prologo Scratch M5 for that matter, but both the SQlabs and SMPs are so much better at allowing forward pelvic rotation. I’m really interested to hear if the F20c si holds the pelvis as well as other SMPs, and if it does, then I think I might get one.
This is the way!
Some of us know the joys of these bikes!
@@ian_pedalz it's the perfect road bike for California riding
What's a good starting point for the angle? I cant tell if I'm too nose up or down.
I start with 5mm nose down, and then try 10mm and 15mm. It’s a bit annoying doing that many adjustments but once you find the sweet spot the saddle just works every time! What angle did you start with?
You can make and add your own carbon threads to any sealant. Collect hair shavings or chop up pet hair that's floating around to around 2 cm long. Free and works great. It clogs your plumbing - it'll help clog a tire puncture.
Hair shavings actually sounds brilliant. I have a blue heeler who’s hair is sharper than anything, would probably work better than have those gimmicky additions. Although if they didn’t make such a mess, glitter works perfectly!
@@ian_pedalz yeah, it sounds gross but I swear it works. “Carbon threads as fine as a hair”. Ok, just use hair then? I’ve got two shorthair dogs and tons of the stuff just floating around. 2 pinches of it mixed in can’t hurt.
Looks great. I kinda want one!
They have a new one that is a breakaway version that’s silver and white too. All I can say is this bike rides sooooo nice, it’s light, fast and so comfortable! Once the salt melts I’ll post some riding videos! Thanks for commenting! Safe riding!
Cool, I haven’t seen that yet! I used to race but I actually think integrated everything and newer carbon frames are ugly, and I miss my old rim brake bike.
@@ptonewood that was exactly the reason I built this frame up. I think once you have a cable snap inside a frame or a battery die super fast on a 30 degree day, you realize how nice it is to have a mechanical externally routed steel frame.
Highway robbery for those bags - paying $40 - $60 for something that literally cost them $2 (in bulk 500-1000) to have them make over in China. R&D maybe 5% of MSRP, shipping/import another couple of percent - figure they're netting at least 80% of it. Cycling accessory industry is RIPE for disruption.
The cost for a lot of things pertaining to cycling is through the roof, but starting to go down. Ortlieb I happen to be a fan of because their customer service is excellent, and they will replace and ship pieces all over the world. So for those who do bike touring or bikepacking this can be really helpful! What do you like to use for your saddle bag?
Thanks for posting Ian. My experience GP5000 STR: Silca is much stronger than Stan’s in terms of sealing up the holes and maintaining the sealing on higher PSI. However Silca is definitely high maintenance. I had a puncture yesterday and I think I’m going to just top up with Stan’s without unmounting the tire and wiping out the remaining Silca since your experience clearly shows that it should work! Thanks!
Topping off is way easier with the Stan’s fluid. Are you using dynaplugs for plugs? If not those plugs work way better than anything I’ve ever tried(and I’ve tried them all lol)
@@ian_pedalz yes snapping have saved me 3 times already!
Some strength exercise can be beneficial I suppose. I’m indoor rowing besides cycling. My cycling is benefiting from this as well
I love the rower as well, it’s amazing the workout you can get in 20-30mins on a rower. For me weight lifting is about being able to continue to do the things I love for as long as possible. The main compound movements increase bone density and muscle mass which increases longevity, so as long as I can keep riding the bike into my (hopefully 90’s) than to me it’s worth it!
Yes!!
I really like my Silca Matone but I also think the BOA strap is it"s weak point - personal opinion. For me it's to grippy for fast and easy removal so I have replaced it with a Voile strap.
How do you like the voile? Do you use the regular or mini? I might have to try that, my BOA is on its last legs!
@@ian_pedalz I use the version available here in Germany that are branded fixplus. They are only 1" thick, much thinner than the BOA strap but it keeps the bag where it needs to be.
@@manueldeubler1127 probably holds the saddle pack more adequately since the strap is textured in a way that seems like it would hold on the saddle rails and pack more effectively. Going to give that a try! It’s also cheaper than the replacement boa strap which I like lol, thanks for the tip! Subscribe if you like this kind of content! Safe riding!
I was wondering if Dynaplugs are working with other sealants than Stan’s and obviously, it does. Good to know. Thank you.
The dynaplug even sealed a tire with no sealant, took a few times around for the plug to seat nicely but it’s definitely the best plug I’ve used! Glad you enjoyed the video! Safe riding and subscribe if you like this kind of content!😊
god damm road biking gear is pussy as fuxx
I have a lezyne 13 in 1 that has a tire plug and chain tool built in, park mini patch kit with rubber cement and an extra valve core, some generic bright red lever, a co2, pdw ninjapump that also works for co2 canisters. i just have a normal spare tube in my bag but will get a tpu tube at some point probably.
If only they have that tool with the dyna plug it would be perfect. That’s the only thing it’s missing! The TPU is just nice because it give me alittle more room for emergency carbs and cash on endurance rides. Safe riding!
Have you looked at the K-Edge combo mounts? They are about $30 cheaper than the Silca's mount. I like the idea of the Canecreek mount, but all the mounts that pivot seem to have strength issues, pivoting or breaking. From what I can see on their website, Canecreek does not sell the mount anymore.
That’s what I was using, I only gave the stem mounts a try out of curiosity but I ditched the cane creek mount, it was just so bad. I see what you’re saying, I think they completely scrapped that product? Or they are going to just sell whatever inventory they have left. The silca mount is working out well but the k edge is hands down my favorite as well, and for good reason! Safe riding!
Nice review...👍
So glad you liked it! Safe riding and Happy new year:)
I’ve switched over to tyre glider which is superior to any lever. Never going back!
Always wanted to try this one, but never met anyone who’s had one, maybe it’s time I give it shot! Does it fit well in your saddle pack? Thanks for watching, safe riding and happy new year!
@@ian_pedalz very compact, about the same as 2 levers. I’ve got conti gp5000 which has always given me problems getting the tire back on. Literally takes me 3 minutes to get the tire mounted.
@@paulyoshihara7261 GP5000s are a good test for tire levers, I’m definitely gunna give this a try, for 15$ it’s worth checking out! I have some old strada biancas I’d love to test the lever on, those tires are theeeee absolute worst to get on.
@@ian_pedalz my experience is that the lever works best for getting the tire back on (which is the hard part!). Not so much removing the tire. Good luck!
@@paulyoshihara7261 yeah it’s always the getting back on that’s the issue, I should have mine tomorrow, excited to try it, thanks for the recommendation!
Great suggestion. Going to add some old tyre into my saddle bag now. Thanks !!!
Better to have it and not need it! Plus it makes me feel better about throwing out my tires that cost as much as car tires but don’t last nearly as long 😂. Happy new year and safe riding! Thanks for watching!
I have had butyl tube patches save me on more than one multiple-flat occasion and have not heard of the patches for TPU tubes being all the way fail proof just yet. Any experience? Nice video
The one thing I can say about TPU tubes is in order for the patch to seal or stick to the tube, is the tube needs to be free of any sweat or debris, it really needs a clean surface. It’s more finicky for sure. If I happen to puncture one I’ll take a video of how it takes the patch! Glad you liked it, thanks for watching:) safe riding and happy new year!
We almost have the same set up!! Yes to Dynaplug as bacon strip keep falling off. Wow frame pump is old school. I converted to CO2 as I never have the muscle to deal with small pump. (3x CO2 on my ride). TPU also work well. I use Revoloop on my old non-tubeless bike and it been there for over a year now. Recently purchase RideNow as spare but never use them yet (they were on sales) I also take the ParkTool tire boot so I dont have to worry about the rubber glue Thanks for mention Reserve Fillmore valve, I did start look into that as my standard DT Swiss keep clogging up. Thinking of replace them but not pull the trigger yet (they are $$$)
Same setup usually means you’ve went through your fair share of things that didn’t work lol! The frame pump was something I started using because after switching to tubeless a lot of the sealant didn’t react well to the co2 but after using it so much I don’t think I can go back, maybe if I was doing a hill climbing race lol and need every gram it just pumps a tire up so fast, plus my riding friends all appreciate it 😂How do you like the park tool tire boot? Have you had to use it before, was thinking about trying them. The Fillmore valves have been amazing for me, even after using them on countless wheels, they just never clog and clean up so easily but the first purchase does hurt the wallet lol. Happy New Year and safe riding!
Dynaplug makes a bar end double point thing that keeps the bag more roomy. Topeak tire levers are bigger and stronger but don’t fit in my Silca bag so untie it to the top of my bag with a pipe cleaner
Topeak tire levers are awesome, I just can’t get them to fit in any of my saddle bags either, and if I was still using Challenge Strada Bianca’s it would be my only choice for tire lever as those tires are painfully tight. I’m guessing you’ve broken a lever or two before lol. I like the bar end plugs also! On my titanium bike the handlebars are custom from James Black sheep so they can’t fit a conventional bar end that well and my enve all road handlebars have the silly built in flaps they call bar ends. I do run them on my bikepacking rig tho, Dynaplug doesn’t make a single bad thing in my experience! Happy New Year and safe riding!
@@ian_pedalz get your LBS to cut off the bar end tips. It will fit in then. My DI2 charge port is in the other
@@uknowbass I’ve thought about chopping them, but not until I lose a dyna plug so I can justify buying another one lol. Right now I have to many dynaplugs and not enough bikes 😅. Safe riding!
Surprising how helpful this video is! I got several good ideas and product recommendations. Thank you Ian!
Glad you enjoyed it! I’ll be doing more product reviews so stay tuned! Safe riding!
Can you please put a link where one can buy these bags
Put both links in the description but be sure to check your local bike shop! Always good to support local😊
looking forward to the full review i just ordered one. updates in the comments look positive so far!
Excited to hear your thoughts! I’m just finishing the comparison with the sq labs 612R and I’ve been blown away with how comfortable this SMP saddle is, the nylon shell offers some flex and if you have a good chamois pad I don’t find much need for saddle padding! If you need any help setting up the SMP or finding the right angle let me know and I’ll take a short video of how I went through the process of finding the right angle! Happy new year and safe riding! Thanks for watching!
@@ian_pedalz r welcome dude hope to see more vids in the future! will let you know how i get on with it. wont be arriving until feb as its a bullk order with a ornix handlebar.
@@RealMeatyBalls thanks for watching brother! Look forward to hearing back! Safe riding!
i have both saddles and mine is red :), for me sqlab is the best saddle regarding perennial relief because your sit bones stays flat and much higher than the nose of the saddle, i've tried manny saddles in my life non comes close to sqlab, smp its also a good saddle and you have to tweak it until you find the sweet spot and i still looking for that spot :) for me the worst saddles are the ones with convex shape because it forces your sit bones to drop lower in the saddle and the curvature of the saddle will put pressure on your small tissues
I couldn’t agree more. The convex shaped saddles are incredibly hard on the tissue around the sit bones. I find this model of the SMP to be the most comfortable that I’ve tried because the limited padding doesn’t allow to much sit bone compression. The only thing that might be considered alittle trying, is getting the angle right but once it’s dialed in, it’s incredibly comfortable even on 100 plus milers. Right now I’m trying the 612R with carbon rails and like it even more than the traditional 612. Have you any experience with the R version?
@@ian_pedalz I have the 612R with carbon rails on my road bike, but want to try this F20sci (i have 10.5 cm sitbone width) since i'm doing a 1200km randonnee in june. Love the 612R, but after too long the sitbones gets really tired. Next best is the ISM PN 1.0, but i have a PN 3.1 coming to test out as well (mainly for my indoor bike).
Have you had the chance to try it a bit more and compare it to the SQ Labs? I do not know which one to pick between them.
I’m about 600 miles in on this saddle and so far it’s been incredible. It’s wildly comfortable, the zero padding is compensated by the nylon shell. The combo is a match made in heaven and I could easily do 100 plus mile rides on this saddle. What style of riding do you mostly do? Rides under 50-100miles or more endurance rides in the 100-200 mile range?
@@ian_pedalz I do road races, so around 3 hours max in the saddle! Some crits, but the longest I’ll go is 5 hours on the bike! So you prefer it to the SQ Labs?!
@@alexarsenault-ouellet6909 the SMP would be my choice, especially if I’m coming out of the saddle a lot, the shape/curvature of the smp makes returning to the same location on the saddle seamless. I haven’t had to many saddles that feel this good out of the box but after getting the tilt correct, it just disappears.
@@ian_pedalz I think you convinced me! I loaned a SMP Dynamic demo from my LBS to try it out today and it’s so different from what I have tried previously! It really cradles the pelvis. I think I’ll give the F30C SI a shot! Thanks a lot!
Beauty! Doeas the frame and fork have enough room for 32mm tyires?
Yes frame and fork have enough clearance for sure. It’s finding the right rim brake. The cane creek eebrake can squeeze in some brands of 32mm tires depending on the wheel you use! Amazing riding bike, on 30mm it rides like butter.
@@ian_pedalz thanks for quick response! I'm planning to get my hands on the disc version 🤩
@@retizotyo oh you’ll have loads of room for 32mm! Also the new green is even nicer in person! Safe riding !
Just to confirm with you 32mm tires gp5000 tubeless on 21mm internal rims fit fine!
Not at all. I have the light on the Fenix quick disconnect mount. FENIX has excellent customer service, have you tried reaching out to them? They have serviced my lights well beyond warranty in some cases. Thanks for watching and safe riding!😊
As someone with a self-diagnosed ocd :) do you have the issue with you Fenix light that it loses battery contact for a fraction of a second on bumps and turns off? If yes, have you tried to fix it somehow?
Amazing video with 3 dynaplugged in one tire... Thanks for sharing Ian. I never had to use my dynaplug and so far trusted my neighbor telling me that dynaplug really works... Now your video is proving it.
Those dynaplugs are the best. I have one on each of my bikes, just because forgetting it is not worth the risk! Glad you enjoyed! Subscribe if you enjoy reviews like this! I’ll be making more soon! Safe riding!
What size frame is that? The red looks so good
The Red looks even better in the sunlight, I’ll try to get a good video the next time the sun actually comes out by me lol. Frame size is 57 and total build weight was 7.5kg, not to shabby for a steel bike if I say so myself! Safe riding!
@@ian_pedalz I would be on a 59cm if I was to get one. I am interested in the new frame as it can allow wider tyres (32mm?). With the eebrakes, how wide of a tyre could you run without it rubbing the brakes/fork/frame?
@@prejitsu3101with the eebrakes on a 21mm internal wheel width a 32mm gp5000 would fit nicely. I have a 30mm on with room to spare.
Curious to find out how you get along with this saddle. I take it you don’t have other Selle SMP saddles, am I correct? Would love to find out how it compares to the Dynamic, Drakon (same shape but a bit more padding than the dynamic) and regular F30. Dynamic is on my old roadbike, drakon on my mtb, F30 I didn’t really get along with. However it’s wider then both drakon and dynamic and perhaps a bit more comfortable in a more upright position. The F30C si appears to be a little less flat than the F30 and caught my eye a few weeks ago. I hope that it will combine the best parts of both the dynamic and F30… Want to try a saddle without padding and have the F30C si on my shortlist. Together with the Forma (same platform as the dynamic but 0 padding, (Full) Carbon Lite - again the same shape but saddle from carbon fibre or this F30C si.. FWIW, in my opinion Selle SMP is the golden standard for ergonomic saddles, and have been for a very long time. I think a lot of people dismiss these for their odd shape but they are genuinely fantastic and many people don’t realize what they are missing. So I’d love a full carbon lite, but i’m afraid
This is my first SMP saddle, I will be taking out a drakon and dynamic for demo next week to do a comparison. I took this saddle out for a quick ride yesterday as the bike is fully built, only about 20 minutes worth of riding to make sure everything is working well and despite this saddle having no padding, I honestly didn’t notice it at all(a very good thing I think). As far as being the most ergonomic as of now I can definitely agree. The saddle holds you in place but not in an oppressive way but in a way that kind of cradles the sit bones and pelvis. I’ll take it out again for a 20 mile ride today to make any small adjustments and then I’ll take it for a 100 mile to get a true opinion. Thanks for watching and subscribe if you like this kind of stuff, I’ll be doing some on the road reviews of the saddle soon!
@@ian_pedalz looking forward to your impressions. Of course, this is very much a YMMV thing, but still.. especially the comparison to the dynamic will be very interesting. Enjoy your rides!
Have you had the chance to compare this F30csi to the Drakon and Dynamic? Wonder how it compares and how you are getting along with the F30csi
@@BenSietzeso I’ve tried the drakon and I’m waiting for the dynamic but so far the F30C SI with it’s shorter nose and no padding is much more comfortable. The nylon shell on it offers the perfect amount of flex and I’m getting none of the traditional pain I would get previously. It will definitely be a staple saddle for me. I thoroughly enjoy the short nose as well being 6’ 185lbs and someone who weight trains my thighs (specifically my adductors) enjoy the additional clearance it provides! I’m trying the sqlabs 612R now so I’ll be taking an extended video talking about all the saddles I’ve purchased!
I’m still on the fence with this one. I’m a 6’4” of give or take 200lb / 90 kg myself. The Drakon that I started with and the dynamic work very well. The original F30 not so much. But in a more upright position I like the extra width of the F30. Like to think that this F30csi is somewhere in between the Dynamic and F30. But I’m also toying with the idea of the full carbon lite which is basically the carbon non padded version of the dynamic. Saddle will be installed on my all-road bike. 95% used on the road, but some of that is in pretty poor shape. At the moment running my old dynamic on that bike but want to return that to my old bike. How do you think this saddle without padding will do on a gravel bike? One more thing - what’s your take on the carbon rails vs the regular stainless steel rails? Does it provide a noticeable comfort increase or is it all about the weight? Steve Hogg - his blog actually steered me towards SMP about 8 years ago - writes that it adds compliance, but reading on several forums many believe it’s all about the weight. No noticeable difference in comfort. Cheers!
Finally a review of this saddle. Looking forward to the full review.
I know isn’t crazy how such an expensive saddle barely has any coverage. I’m excited to ride this, my steel Ritchey is almost done being built, I just have to put the cables on today and wrap the bars. Planning to break this saddle in on a nice century so I can make some minor adjustments while on the road and still have an opportunity to test those adjustments on a long ride. Do you ride an SMP saddle now?
Have a few test saddles sent to me by SMP, including the f30csi. Having difficulty figuring out if the f20 or f30 is best for me. My sit bone measurement says go with f20 but f30 has been feeling much more comfortable.
@@Harrisc1997what was your sit bone measurement when you took it at 90degrees? I’m assuming you did the cardboard test at home?
@@ian_pedalz 11.3cm (113mm). Had a bike fit done.
@@Harrisc1997 Same here... 🤷♂
As soon as you get home from a ride where you had a puncture you should let out all the CO2 air and fill your tire with a regular bike pump. Then your sealant should survive.
I’ve had good luck doing this with Stan’s and orange seal but the Silca turns into a gel like substance and doesn’t seem like it has the viscosity to find a puncture anymore. What type of sealant do you prefer using? Always looking for recommendations!
Once mixed orange with stans by accident as the client said it was stans and than after adding sealant turned out to be orange. Told him to report when issues appeared but he never mentioned anything so I assume it worked fine. Would love to know more about mixing though. Probably depends on the ingredients
I recently added some Stan’s to my orange seal and I didn’t get a huge color change from what I noticed on the last puncture but the last puncture sealed well so it leads me to believe those two can be mixed. I think the biggest problem with mixing is if the sealant you’re adding has a lot ammonia in it.
Wish I had watched this before I switched to Silca sealant! I noticed when I poured it in that the carbon fibers seemed to all clump together. Now I see that they are probably all near my bead seals, without many left to actually fill punctures. I already had it take a long time to seal a small thorn hole. 😡
It would be nice if the carbon fiber pieces could be added dry, to help save the mess and allow the sealant to be injected. Conceptually it seems like it would work well but as it stands , it’s messy and performs poorly.
@@ian_pedalz You never want to deal with bare carbon fibers in your life, trust me ☹️. You need full body protection including a respirator to do so. They can embed in your skin, go into your throat, and cause a lot of irritation. I plan to just add more of the carbon foam sealant instead of the replenisher to get more fibers in my tires.
Glad you liked the video Mike! I’ll be mixing this orange seal with Stan’s sealant on the next video. Which sealants do you prefer to use?
can you mix bontreager and muc-off in a video? or any knowledge about it, I had to do it today.
@@Rich-jj3ee you can the only thing I’ve noticed when mixing them is that when using c02 the mixture turns into a gel like substance and has a hard time finding punctures. So as long as you don’t use c02 you should be okay. The one thing I’m finding is that ammonia free sealants and sealants with ammonia do not like to be mixed.
@@ian_pedalz got it and thanks! it seems like they are both ammonia free and latex based from what i can see
@@Rich-jj3ee it’s interesting because muc off claims you can use c02 but I notice it dries much faster after using c02 . I’m more of a frame pump guy myself but just something to keep in mind! Safe riding!
thanks so much@@ian_pedalz
Thanks Ian, that is good to know. A lot of sealants seem to be really good … until you actually need them. Especially for gravel or road use when the pressure is a bit higher. Glad you did this video, would be great to see someone do a larger comparison of what is compatible with what. The manufacturers all say “don’t do it”.. of course. Your video was good user experience for dynaplug also. Cheers
What I’m noticing is that you can mix sealants that both use synthetic latex and same for natural latex but mixing a sealant with natural and one with synthetic is when the addition of ammonia (in the natural latex sealant) interferes with the coagulation properties of the synthetic latex sealant. Hope this helps and I made sense of it lol safe riding!