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Mike Bikealot
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Registrace 30. 04. 2021
Adventure time riding thru Transilvania, Romania :)
A surprising issue with the XSR 900 ... the Battlax S22s
I was a bit disappointed with the feel of the bike thru corners. It felt a bit like a boat and I've chucked it up to the tracer swing arm. If you think about it that made no sense since the bike has the same wheelbase as a KTM Super Duke 1290. I would have never guess it was due to the Bridgestone Battlax s22...
Sure the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 4 are a bit more expensive and they might last 2-3 times as little, but they COMPLETE this package by turning it into something fun!
I'm now curious how the Michelin Road 6 stack up against the Pirellis ...
Ryan F9 talking about manufacturers prepackaged tires: czcams.com/video/Tv97i_-V7hA/video.html
Sure the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 4 are a bit more expensive and they might last 2-3 times as little, but they COMPLETE this package by turning it into something fun!
I'm now curious how the Michelin Road 6 stack up against the Pirellis ...
Ryan F9 talking about manufacturers prepackaged tires: czcams.com/video/Tv97i_-V7hA/video.html
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The electronics of the XSR 900. Part 2 ... with QS and Cruise Control demos :D
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A breakdown of the electronics of the 2022 XSR 900. There are 2 demos at the end with the Cruise control and Quick sifter in action :) I do repeat myself a bit in the demo section. I'm new to this riding, filming and talking so I'm sorry in advance :) Additionally the menu interface is somewhat hard to see because of the blacked out dash the GoPro can't quite focus on it. Thankfully the menu it...
A owners review of the 2022 XSR 900. Part 1 ... with extra rambling :)
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My unfiltered opinion of the 2022 XSR 900 from the perspective a euro bike rider :P This is part 1 where I tour the bikes key issues and positives. I will follow up with a part 2 that goes more in-depth on the electronics. If there are any particularities that you want to know about the bike leave them in the comment section and I will answer them. 00:00 - Into 00:34 - The general feel of the p...
Thank you very much for this review. This bike was my top choice but after this review I have decided, for sure, not to get it. The seat in particular really bothers me and I don't want to spend any additional money to get a better one; it should come with one! The turning radius seems ridiculous. Then you point out how the switchgear things seem loose. It just doesn't seem to be well made.
well done my friend!
Knows nothing about the bike
Hi! Thanks for mentioning this, I just bought the 2024 xsr900 a month ago and in some corners I occasionally felt a little more unsure of riding on the standard tyres compared to other bikes I've ridden, so I'll definitely look into changing them. As for the seat, I've just ordered a Kelpi seat with a different trim from Australia, I've heard great things about them, so if you're still looking for a replacement I can let you know if it improves the riding quality when I get it!
Talking about the shifting being to tough lmfao you clearly haven't rode a Harley before. Anything is better than a literal clunk as it goes into gears.
Awesome video, so informative, just what I needed. Thx!!
Thank you for this clear explanation! Great video, keep them up!
I am looking to buy this bike (already tested and tried) and seat is the first thing I would address. I already look at options and Kelpi is one of the best, 320 eur or 640 depends if you want to change original seat or brand new. I owned 2004 and 2018 FJR so switches were always little loose (especially if you are comparing with premium brands like BMW and Ducati) but I sleep sound with japanese bike in the garage. Don't get me wrong I like when something is nice and solid, Moto Guzzi for example makes switches and handlebars looking like piece of art but if you are lucky to own one, you may be disappointed with quirks that probably won't happen on japanese bike. I like your honest review and I won't defend yama but many issues mentioned could be seen at the dealership and surely during test ride. I also understand that when you buy a bike (especially a new one from the dealer) it is often an emotional decision but to be fair you knew what you were buying and hardly there is any competitor that offers so much performance and features in this price range. It would be great to just leave performance and good features and exchange bad features with other bikes but surely the price wouldn't be on this level. Position of switches is always something different between manufacturers and in general switches are expensive to design and produce so they are often reused through years (or decades). If you owned Honda than probably you know that in the past (just few years ago) these bikes had horn almost in the same place where other bikes had indicators and imo that was much more frustrating than mode selector. Speaking to some minor things like display of adjusted speed on cruise control I have 2016 Lexus IS300h and I also don't have this feature so it's not like yama is some special exception. I totally agree that It would be nice to have it like many other things but at the same time we can't expect the same price. Some people in the comments also like to compare this bike to Z900RS where on some markets currently price difference is up to 3000 EUR - almost 16000 EUR for Kawa and 5 years ago I bought for exact same price FJR1300 with all (loose 😃) bells and whistles. Fortunately it is possible to buy used Z900RS for half of the price in mint condition. I wish you long and safe journeys on ur XSR or any other bike 🙂👍
Hey Mike! Thanks for another awesome video. I am waving into a used 2022 xsr900 black like yours with only 4,000km on it, but I am not sure about the S22 wearing. When was your first tire swap? I heard people changing the rear tire after 6,000km
I don't think you should swap them at 4000 probably 6000 to 8000k but it really depends on the way you use the bike ... if you do rolling burnouts often :) well. However for regular street use go for around 8000+. Now a more proper way to check do me a favor and google "s22 tire wear mark" on most tires within the large groves you should see small connecting outdent. If you reach that your are not at the end of the tire but you are close
Thanks for the honest review. A lot more useful than people just gushing over their machine.
What a good review. Thank you. Very detailed. We should demand more
waiting for a yearly review brother
"I'm not gonna test the cruise control at 160 speed" - that's reasonable. Nice demo of the systems! Thanks
That bike looks awesome in black!! I'm a little surprised that you wound up purchasing this motorcycle at all with the complaints you verbalized. Especially since the defects were all present and obvious from the start. I personally would have purchased something that I could live with on the daily and not think, "cheap switches"and "Crappy screen" and "poor quick shifter" whenever I climb on. I appreciate your perspective and I'll definitely be looking closer if I get a chance to get another Yamaha. The last Yamaha I had was a 2005 Yamaha fz1 and I had trouble finding anything to complain about. I'm currently wanting to get either a XSR900 VS MT10 VS GSXS 1000 VS KATANA. thanks for the honest opinion.
Thanks for the video its really helpful
Stop moaning!!. Why did you buy the bike?!!
90 percent crying😢! I suggest make your own bike😂
:D Don't need to, have you seen the new mt-09? :D yamaha took my feedback and almost fixed every point I made in this video. Now they just need to release the new XSR with those fixes
is there any other other bike you could recommend? and i don't care about retro.
well honestly what's your budget? and what do you mainly want to do. Btw happy new year!
here I'll give you some the surface level options I'm thinking thru atm regarding new bike releases: CFMoto 450 nk - super cheap and I want to get back into the 400 class to re-experience my first year of motorcycling. Naked bikes are a bit to uncomfortable when going above 150km especially when there is a lot of wind. This bike hangs around ~120kmh and so it might be the ideal city/intercity naked hooting around. Its also a good tikerer bike. MT09 SP 2024 - according to the specs they've took almost all my issues and addressed them :)) like even the quicksifter according to them is now rev range based ... although I need to ride it to confirm they've fixed it properly and not just on paper. But I would say if you don't have a specific goal like track days in mind the MT09 SP 2024 is the best new naked bike you can buy ATM KTM 990 - usually ktms are unreliable every friend that had a KTM has experienced some problems with them so I'm not going to say its a good buy because its usually not. But KTM and there dealer network did address all of them eventually its just that I've seen it take even a year to do so. However in terms of pure fun you can rarely beat a KTM... I am personally not considering KTMs atm but if you want to go medium high end and don't want a mt09 a KTM is your only option If you are not looking for new bikes exclusively Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory - this is hands down the best mid range naked bike it has good tech (cruise control included) and it was well packaged for the price but the main reason I like it its light like a mountain bike. Seriously if you get to ride one and are fairly conformable riding try to play around with it. It feels like you can jump left to right on it like you do a mountain bike. It also has a mini windscreen and upgrading it to a full screen does not look bad since its a "half naked" bike. That helps a loooot at higher speed. Its literally the benchmark for mid class nakeds atm
@@mikebikealot happy new year. thank you so much for this detailed answer. my price range is up to 12k i would say. the tuono i don't like looks wise. half naked isn't my style. maybe the rs660 then but i would have to test ride it first to see if the ergonomics are acceptable. i test rode the old mt09 and liked it very much but it was so insanely ugly. maybe i can have a better look at the new one this weekend. there is supposed to be a presentation for the 24 models at my dealership. i expect ergonomics to much better than with the old one. the new one is a bit more leaned so you can bend forward more naturally. my only issue with the 24 mt-09 is it's stll a rather ugly bike. especially compared to the xsr900. i test rode the 23 street triple r as well but it felt too tippy when coming to a stand and the sound gave me a headache. despite that it felt great. then i had the cb650r for a short ride but when cornering i felt the bike needed way more force than any of the other bikes i tested. sure it was the heaviest bike and the only one with four cylinders. the ktm duke 990 looks crazy cool but yeah, i heard about problems from other sources as well. i don't want to go medium high end. i come from a mt-03 and all i want is similar ergonomics with better brakes and suspension and an engine that can keep up in city traffic even when cold. if yamaha added some decent suspension to the mt-07 and gave it a front you could look at without crying that would be my choice for the time.
@@nateriver5114 so my first thought would be don't overspend if you come from the mt-03 almost any of those bikes would be an upgrade in almost all aspects. And don't give into peer pressure regarding buying a powerful bike (if you have any). You don't need to jump on a streetfighter or bmw or triumph take it from me the return on fun does not scale with price. Here's my suggestion but I would preface it with the following: I don't really like suzukis I feel like suzuki is one of the defaults that you buy as a "safe option" that being said 2 years ago 2022 at EICMA and after I've had the chance to test out the GSX8S. Its a MT-07++ here's why: - ride by wire so it can have a quicksifter up and down (something cp2 line of bikes can't) even if its a more budget friendly quicksifter - nice dash (much better than even the old gen 2023 mt09) and the controls are easy and nice to use - good build quality - based on where you are the parts and service can be really cheap Down sides (remember this is an improvement over the mt07 in almost all categories): - its fairly sterile like all suzukis it never feels like you want to look twice at them (or at least I never do) maybe you can add a pipe to it and make it sound nice but ... its a suzuki at the end of the day - its also a bit heavy I think it was over 200kg I usually discard 200 class bikes that are not liter bikes - there is no cruise control even though it has ride by wire - wind protection was not that good, in fact it was bad I remember being comparable to the dukes and you sit on those. But again nakeds ... that's a fundamental issue with them - like the mt07 the suspension is cheap and not adjustable or at least it was not back then but that being said I remember it being harder than the mt07s. It was not very compliant over the bumps and again in my book thats a good thing I kind of like suspensions that are a bit more on the sporty side. Other than that you're kind of out of luck atm ... there are no decent naked bikes around the 700 to 900 ccs or at least none that are worth buying except the ones mentioned above One final thought regarding the headache. I also ride with sport helments and I suggest you run earplugs if you can. Or do like I do and run plugphones guardian (thats what I use into my cardo)
@@mikebikealot oh, i totally forgot i to tell you i already test rode the suzuki back in summer. the weight isn't of any issue and it gives a nice ride but i really didn't like the looks so much, especially the fat bck side because the air filter is under the seat. and it's more on the expensive side here. for about 1k more i could get the street triple r. and yes, i often use earplugs when riding but i didn't when test riding the triumph.
Cheap controls does it for me I will go with a Suzuki GSX 1000.
bro your substantial it is too substantial
I've got about 1,000 miles on this bike and love it. I added a Dart windscreen, USB port, iPhone mount, and throttle paddle. Most importantly, I use my Airhawk inflatable seat pad (which I've had for 20 years and move from bike to bike). With the seat pad and throttle paddle/cruise control, I can ride indefinitely in terms of comfort; the only limitations being fuel and bladder range. One of my other bikes is a '19 Triumph Speed Twin. One of the other commenters, after watching this very detailed and excellent review, indicated that he figured this Yamaha would be a step down in premium feel from his Triumph Speed Twin. Not my perception at all! With my setup, the only thing that I'd agree with the author is really bothersome is the feel/utility of the touch wheel infotainment interface. Not nearly smooth feeling enough nor an ideal interface. Not a deal breaker for me, just could be nicer. As to getting a Kawasaki Z900RS as an alternative, that bike is several thousand dollars more expensive. More importantly, it's a completely different feel. Very enjoyable ride, but it feels like the perfection of a 70s bike, enhancing all the good parts of those bikes and eliminating most of their downsides (except weight). The XSR900 on the other hand, while providing a semi retro look, feels like the present and future. The quick shift and cruise control are much more fun additions to the riding experience than I would have imagined. Note, if you really want to enjoy the feel of a 70's bike on the cheap, the Royal Enfield 650s do the job nicely. It's fun to be able to enjoy the Triumph's torque/grunt nature and the Yamaha's screamer nature. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't! YMMV
I stand corrected the new mt09 does not have military time or at least I've not seen it in any of the themes. - The clock now has a date though the dash does not appear to display that (maybe there is a theme that I've not seen that uses this) - The dash does show the cruise control speed :) finally - The quality of all the buttons is top noch!!! even the small joystick its proper firm and clicky. Good job Yamaha. - The buttons are amazing! Especially the signal rocker. If you see online reviewers that say its bad, they have no idea what there saying. Press one to activate press again to cancel and also it self cancels. - The pass light is not ... that good (the position of it is too high and far away from the bar) - The screen is ok, but the menu for the screen is verry verry bad its actually a downgrade. They have this 3 page scroll menu that is really annoying thank god you don't have to go into the menu too often - The map navigation is crap ... no one will use that. I feel like the industry is so close to implement google maps just add android/apple auto for the bike and accept nothing less
2023 seats are worse; and what are they thinking for passenger ?
need a smooth passenger seat; not a hi ; wierd looking thing
I have a xsr 900 I find it OK I like I think this man is only running it do by the sound of him he runs all bikes down that he doesn't like
Cool review
ive been eyeing the xsr700 as my first bike to get after passing for my license, but for future proofings sake, as well as having an all rounder thatll do well on highways too, im considering if i can get away with getting a 900 directly, especially considering the changes if the newer models and added electronics that people claim help with how tame it is possible to have it. thoughts? edit: just arrived at the end of the video where you addressed exactly that :p very solid explanation. id be going against the advice of many, but im pretty considerate of the capabilities and people like you that dont solely associate engine displacement but have more nuanced take that have said this abt the 900 makes me think it can be done
Such a good in depth review, it’s usually only after ownership these little things come out. I was ready to put it on my serious must have list but so happy I found you’re post as these things did change my mind about ownership.
definitely needs nicer exhaust
Is it a lcd screen? Dosnt look like it to me?
It is, LCD's don't need to be full color lcd's ... for example search arduino lcd and you will understand.
Liked your videos, will there be more, or have you stopped ?
I'll post more when I have other bikes that are worth talking. Not sure if I should start "motovloging" or things like that ...
Nothing comes perfect in life except the things you care about or love. You should sell this bike, bro, because you don't seem to like it much.
The front brakes are awesome in terms of performance, you are attaching an opinion to brand! The S22 tyre is also a very good tyre. I don't get it...
The older model looked different, except from the seat, the new one uses the same display as everyone else uses, why not keep the round clocks, just make it bigger and easier to read, would make the bike more different from other models, which I thought was the thinking behind this model, this is something the Japanese manufacturer can not get right with one exception ( Kawasaki z900rs) where the design is kept flowing and proportionate for the model language! If Yamaha wants to make a model different, they should go all in, look at Triumph with their classic line, beautifully designed ( although they lost the ball on the display of the Scrambler) should be the same a the t120. I hope Yamaha will bring back the rounded clocks and make a model a bit upmarket, this model deserves it, that engine must be one of the best ever produced, period😜
If it's so bad why buy the bike in the first place? Just so you can play the victim on CZcams?
Did you respray tank etc or put cover over. I like red.
10:20 minutes into the video. And I’m still hearing more negatives then great already. Lmao
well the negatives and the poor designed stuff is something I rarely see people talking about. Most online material never even compares the bikes to other models beyond the spec sheet stuff like price/hp/weight .... I kind of hate that. When I buy something I want to know its shortcomings relative to other products and what can could be better on it
I've got a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 and am looking for this bike. But after hearing your negatives I'm thinking I might miss the premium feel and looks of the Triumph. I don't know if the all the extra features outweighs that.
Yamaha steering turn-in angles are shortened because their bikes turned in to lock hard when past a certain point, tending to throw the bikes down at low speeds. It took effort to keep them up and pull the bars back out of it. My 2005 FJR was a beast to wrestle when I turned past that point.
I believe Corbin has custom seat for XSR, i just don't know the price
You can also hold the cruise up button for overtakes
The S22's that ship with Yamaha bikes are OEM S22's manufactured to Yamaha's specifications. THEY ARE NOT the same as S22 retail tires from Bridgestone. The OEM/Yamaha S22's are 1-compound cheap rubber tires, the retail S22's are 3-compound tires made with significantly better rubber and to far better specifications. If you ask Bridgestone support, they will confirm this themselves! This is pretty normal amongst all brands - OEM/stock tires are ALWAYS inferiour to retail tires from pretty much ANY brand.
The horrible seat. Combined with the long tank which causes a seating position that is not sportbike, but not upright either. Never experienced such pain after 1-2 hours of riding before. I kept my XSR900 for two months, and swapped for an MT-09 SP, and now I can ride all day in comfort. Big comfort difference! The difference tho is that the MT-09 SP feels like a wild animal by comparison, it power wheelies in 1st, 2nd and 3rd, and seems a bit wild compared to the XSR900 that feels far more planted and safe due to the longer swingarm. The MT-09 is definitely much better for city/urban riding though, the comfort difference is HUGE.
Not related but really like the colour you introduced. I'm also looking at black model. Mmmmm can add colour too
In my opinion black and red really go well its a bit edgy but the contrast is one of my favorite. Maybe a touch of blue would really compliment the look.
When I bought my r1 I got about 1800 miles on whatever tires came stock. I bought the same ones and got about 3500 then I upgraded to michelins and got over 6000 and the tires were still round. I really think they pay tire makers for a worse cheaper version to put on the brand new bikes.
Well we all know we don't buy this for the electronic BS. We buy for the motor, sounds, handling , and wheelies. If you want power modes buy a Ninja 300 or KTM 390. If you can't control with your throttle hand then you should not be riding a bike like this. Just a rant about electronics. People seem to care more about those then the actual bike performance. Turn that sh.t off and enjoy the natural nature of the bike.
such a great looking bike man I'm jealous!
I'm a bit surprised how many people like Michelin Road, to me the leaning speed isn't very linear especially when you try to push it to a deeper lean angle. (It gets slower when it gets deeper) I do admit that it performs really well on cold tires though, my Q3+ slips when leaning on road marks on cold tires while Roads don't.
Good to know I'll keep that in mind when shopping for the next tire. I too am tiring to figure out if the hype is justified for the Michelin... the Pirellis were and are a known quantity to me but I do try to get out of my comfort zone and try out new things... who knows what gem you can stumble upon.
When I sat on the bike at the dealer the seat didn't feel good, but when I test road the bike the seat felt ok. but I was only on the bike for around 15 minutes. its definitely not the best seat. and I don't understand why the seat doesn't go right up to the tank. I didn't really notice things being loose on the bike except for the seat. which moves all around if you touch it. but when riding it it doesn't seem to move. I did think the lcd screen could be bigger and better. Yamaha must've wanted to save some money with the screen. and I heard someone else talk about how bad that scroll wheel is. but no complaints on the handling or engine.
I’m thinking about getting an xsr900 but I just sold my fz07 because I didn’t like long distance rides getting blasted by the wind, do you think a tall screen and a slight tuck would remedy the wind noise problem on this bike?
Well I haven't found any good wind protectors. There is one from Puig that I've seen someone on youtube fit it to the bike. It looks decent. The default windscreen from yamaha is basically useless. You are super exposed to the wind on this bike... also note the seat is verry verry verry bad for distance riding...
@@raisingcane225 looks great! How’s the wind blast on it? It looks like it might be big enough to deflect wind off of the chest and maybe shoulders but then increase wind noise as it deflects all of it to the neck / helmet area.
@@Vanity7k I’m still breaking in the engine but have been on the highway (early AM, no other cars) up to about 100 mph for 10 seconds or so, and the windscreen makes a substantial difference - to me at least. It blocks most of the wind up to about the upper edge of my helmet visor. I use an HJC RPHA91 helmet with a Cardo Edge comm system and use earbuds with it. Those may help but I don’t feel the wind buffeting my helmet much nor is it overly loud wind noise.
@@raisingcane225 i appreciate the response, i’m seriously considering purchasing the xsr900. How tall are you?
@@Vanity7k I’m 5’8-1/2 with my StylMartin riding boots on and weigh 175 lbs. I will try and do a little test on the bike in the next day or two. I’ll get up to about 60-65 on the hughway, engage cruise control and take an 6”x8”’ piece of cardboard with me in the ride. While In cruise, I’ll hold the left side of the handlebar and try and be in my normal riding posture (slight forward lean) and with the right hand holding the cardboard in front of my stomach slowly move it upward to better gauge at what height and where in relation to my chest/helmet/etc the Dart Marlin stops effectively blocking the wind. Will post those results in my thread linked above at the FZ09 forums. One additional note to be aware of: I am using a 20mm vertical riser on the handlebars from a German company called Voigt Moto Technik. It is just their straight 20mm riser, not another version they have which rises and also brings backwards some. Quality on the riser is great, albeit pricey but it gave me a better riding position than stock. At just 20mm I also had plenty of clearance with the cables and hydraulics on the handlebars without issue.