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Cant go wrong with the Cub!

Also @BRGT350 , what battery checker do you recommend? My aeroscout mini tells me when i have to land by dropping the thrust to 50%, i immediately cut throttle and land. So, i dont have one yet.

I use the Spektrum Smart Checker, which works awesome for checking both Smart and regular batteries. I can do firmware updates to my Smart batteries, use it as a servo driver/tester, and even recharge my phone with it. I don't think it will check the batteries in the Micro trainers, which is pretty normal that battery checkers don't check 1S packs. For flying, set the timer on your phone for 6 minutes and land when it hits zero.

@@BRGT350 ok!

@@BRGT350 Also are there any au sites that sell them? i don wanna pay like 50$ more for shipping

I think the Twin Timber springs are much stiffer, which is the opposite direction of what I would want to go. I would prefer softer springs. I have the springs from the original Timber and thought about installing those on the Evolution. While I have had plenty of people tell me that I am wrong, I found the Super Timber tires work far better on the 1.5m Timber and Maule than I ever expected. I did it mostly for looks, in fact, looks was the only real reason I wanted to do this. The improved ground handling was an unexpected bonus. They made even more of a difference on the Maule, which has tires made of rock. From testing out the tires on the Timber and Maule, I would say that these tires are a good fit for the Timber X, 1.5m Timbers, and Maule. Might be too big for the 1.3m Carbon Cub, but the tires are actually pretty good on that one already. Not sure how well they will work on the Twin Timber, which is really heavy. Not sure if it is heavier than the Super Timber or not. The lighter weight models allow you to run lower pressures in the tires, which make them perform more like real tundra tires. The heavier models need more air pressure, which is basically increasing the spring rate of the suspension. The tires aren't absorbing as much force, so the gear springs have to do the work instead.

@BRGT350 I think the twimber springs are awesome. If you have a harder landing, there's no keepers to bend and they seem about the same stiffness really. My evo has the same bounce as it did before but without the having to carry spare springs. I've had 2 or 3 not so perfect landings ( my wife really) and we seen no ill effects from it. These new wheels will just give a little bit more travel and flexibility.

I will keep those Twin Timber springs in mind. The updated 1.5m Evolution uses those springs. I still have the original springs on my Evolution with a lot of flights on them. You can see in the video that they are kind of bent. I was doing touch and goes earlier this year and the gear caught a hole in the fabric runway that caused the plane to come to an abrupt halt with the gear twisted on the spring. I thought for sure the gear broke as I was coming in a fast clip for a quick touch and go without any intention of stopping, so catching a tire in the fabric runway was really bad. Thankfully, no damage and after untangling the gear, I was back up in the air. The springs are still out of shape from that incident.

@BRGT350 lol. Yeah mine have the original springs on it too. I think I even have two sets of spares.

I don't have any spares, other than the original Timber springs that I removed when I made my old Timber a dedicated float plane. The silly thing is that I made it a dedicated float plane and haven't flown it from the water in years. Our club field used to flood every spring and we would fly float planes for about a month. This spring it was too dry and we never did a float fly. I have water all around me in the form of Lake Michigan, inland lakes, a lake behind my house, and a lot of rivers. Yet, my Timber float plane just hangs in the garage.

I think a kit is a great idea. Hopefully one will be available in the future. Until then, the parts shown in the video work pretty good. Actually better than I was expecting.

@BRGT350 Looks like a winner. I like the fact that they have a slightly larger rolling circumference as well. Man, these are gonna go great with the twimber springs

And you can adjust the diameter and spring rate of the tire by adjusting the pressure. I wish I had a little tire pressure gauge to know what pressures I am running! Instead I measure the diameter of the tire and make sure both are the same and that is how I adjust the pressure. I could probably go with a touch more air, but they are pretty well matched on the 1.5m Timber at 4.75" diameter. That is with a 2700mAh 4S pack in the nose. Personally, I think these tires are better suited on the smaller planes like the 1.5m Timbers and Maule than the larger ones.

@BRGT350 I own the X and the evo and these tires are what i've been waiting for.

@BRGT350 Thanks for your comments. It's nice to be able to share ideas on how to improve the equipment we use in the sport. I hope The storms missed you.. Here in NW Indiana we had to pretty rough weather.

Agree that would be a more manageable size, but if you want a RC B-17, this is pretty much the only option.

@@BRGT350 one could configure for RC a smaller sized replica. More to my point, I prefer a static replica (actually, several), highly detailed and historically accurate.

For a scale model B-17, the HK Models (not the same as Hobby King) 1/32 B-17 is considered the best on the market. It is complex to build, but the detail is best in class. I have a bunch of the old Revell/Monogram 1/48 B-17G models and I find those to be the best size for display. Avoid the Academy 1/72 B-17F. That kit is garbage. I almost threw it away during construction as it is so bad. Besides the Hobbyking 1875mm B-17, I am not aware of any other RC B-17's available. E-flite used to have a RC 1/48 B-17, but that is long gone. I have one that sits with my static models.

@@BRGT350 , I prefer by far a large, super-detailed, static model to something I could not recognise at 100 metres. I already caught the difference between "Hobby King" and "Hong Kong Models". I am good at spelling, writing, and reading, though poor at maths. Or seeing.

I have seen a few done with foil or chrome paint. It looks really good, but like you, not something I would try myself. I have used metal foil for sections of model planes and it isn't fun to work with. I can't imagine doing an entire aircraft with it!

The P-51 has one of the most incredible exhaust notes. The heritage flights at Oshkosh bring tears to my eyes each year that I am there. It is such a moving and emotional part of the event.

it was an incredible flight to see in person! This was the 2022 flight, last year it was with A-1 Skyraiders and the F-35. Sucks the "Shorts" format cuts off the ends of the frame to make it vertical. I will try and film the flights vertically this year.

@@BRGT350 I'm jealous 😃

I have mine inflated to 4.75", but you can easily change the diameter based upon how much air you add or remove. I thought I saw someplace that they can be inflated to almost 6", but now I can't find where I saw that. While the tire currently measures 4.75" diameter, the radius to the bottom of the tire is actually 1 7/8", which is about the same as the factory Timber foam tire. The amount of air I have in the tire and the weight of the plane has the tire radius reduced to the contact patch. I find this to be just about perfect for grass operations and a 2700 4S battery.

I don't have a SUV, I have a Ford Fiesta.

@@BRGT350 👍👍The wheels off that would be even more appropriate! 😜😂😂

probably not, large diameter, short sidewall, ultra high performance summer tires are not for a bush plane.

@@BRGT350 "Always with the negative waves, Moriarty!!" 🙄

not sure what you are saying at this point

They are a must for anyone with a Timber or Maule!

Thank you!!

The spring loaded strut is the same as it was on the V1 and V1.5 Cherokee. What changed was the tiller arm on the top of the strut assembly. Before, you could only access the retention screw from the top, which is blocked by the fuselage. Now the screw can be reached from the horizontal position and you don't have to cut into the fuselage to service the nose gear. I find it easy to transport fully assembled in my Ford Fiesta. Since there are very few cars smaller or with less room, transportation shouldn't be an issue. Unless you have a Miata. I don't remove the wings for transport as the plane fits just fine fully assembled. I do need to watch to make sure I don't bump the stabilator or the extra antennas I added.

The B-17 was an engineering masterpiece! I flew on Yankee Lady a few years ago and it was incredible. Awesome to be sitting in the nose looking out over the bombsight with nothing but a piece of 80 year old plexiglass between me and the earth. It was also shocking how thin the skin was on the plane. There were also a lot of gaps where the wind would blow through and I remember sitting up in the nose thinking that if I dropped my car keys or phone, there is a good chance they will fall through the nose turret under the seat.

Yeah, nah. B29s don't have ball turrets or chin turrets - they have a nose wheel where that chin turret is on the B17.

Ha, no, that is not a B-29. Have you ever seen a B-29? If so, you would know that is clearly not one of them. There are only 2 flying B-29's in the world. Doc and FiFi. Doc has never been to MKG airport and FiFi was last there in 1994 or 1995. The B-17 in the video is Yankee Lady, which used to be based out of Willow Run and it come to Muskegon a few times each summer to give rides and for the airshow. I have flown on Yankee Lady and spent many hours around the aircraft and with her at events. I am 100% positive that she is a B-17 and not a B-29. The only think she has in common with a B-29 is that they were both designed by Boeing (Yankee Lady was Vega built and not Boeing built), they are aluminum, have 4 radial engines, and share the main gear tires. That is it.

Nope. Chin turret = B17

Sorry Sargent, but that is not a B-29. It is 100% a B-17, the one that used to be based at Willow Run where the B-24's were made during the way. I have flown on Yankee Lady and I am sure I would know that I was flying in a B-17 and not a B-29.

Sorry to hear about your uncle. The loss of lives in the air war during WW2 was staggering. Never since and never again (hopefully) will we see that again. The crews that climbed into the aircraft and headed off to fight for our freedom were all heroes. We are thankful for every single one of them.

Sadly her days of flying are over for awhile. She was sold last month and will be taken apart and shipped to New Zeeland for restoration. I doubt I will ever see her fly again. I am thankful I had a chance to fly on Yankee Lady a few years ago and for all the times I got to see her at airshows and events. She will be missed.

Sorry to hear about the crash. Sounds like it may have stalled and went in, which is easy to do with the micro trainers. I had my nephew flying one and he pulled the power back from about 15 feet in the air and it stalled and went nose into the ground. Thankfully it was the grass and only the prop came off. The servo sounds like it broke a tooth which is why it wasn't reacting properly. I have broken servo gears before and they act just as you described. What I have found with these micro planes is that due to the high weight they have a high wing loading meaning they need a good amount of airspeed to keep them in the air. Pulling back on the power too much can cause the wings to stall and the plane goes right into the ground. The recovery is to push the nose forward with the elevator, add power, and gently pull up on the elevator as air speed recovers. For a beginner or at low altitude, this is almost impossible to get it all done in time. It seems counterintuitive to push the elevator forward when the plane is in a dive, but that is what is needed to help pick up airspeed and recover. Pulling back on the stick for full up elevator in a stall is going to cause the plane to never recover. Going nose first into the ground is a classic stall condition and these planes can stall very easily with the power reduced. I find they fly best around 60-70% throttle and land best with power on. Pulling the power back to idle on landing will cause a stall. I cut the power to idle when I am just about a foot off the ground so that the prop isn't powered when it touches down.

@BRGT350 Guess we'll never know if the elevator servo was bad prior to the crash, but I think it was. My boy has done well with his UMX Turbo Timber EVO. My hope is the Xcub can be a cheaper/more durable option for my 9yr old. Also, it seems like the small servos are working pretty hard to move the control surfaces. All that takes is a little friction on the rods. When we get the new plane, we'll compare the two and tear down the bad servo. Since they don't sell spare parts separately, I'm guessing there isn't a good way to take this fuselage apart.

yeah, that is always the hard part as there is a chance the servo had a problem prior to the crash and locked up in flight. I had that happen to me once with one of my planes. It had a broken servo tooth from impact during transport, it checked out fine during pre-flight, but once I got in the air, the servo found the broken tooth and the plane crashed. Locked up the rudder servo just after take-off. The UMX Turbo Timber Evolution is such a fantastic flying model, one of the best I have ever flown. I find it easier than the micro trainers, but I am also used to the Timber and have it really dialed in with my NX8. The nice thing about the micro trainers is that I can let kids try it out where I wouldn't let them try my other planes. The youngest kid I have had try the Micro Cub was 10 without any flight experience. She did ok, but I had my fingers hovering over the sticks to jump in and help. So much easier with a traditional buddy-box. My 12 year old nephew has flown the micro Mustang and did ok, but had a lot of crashes from pulling the power back too much and stalling. He can fly his Carbon Cub pretty well, but struggled a bit on the micro Mustang. It was a stall every time that got him. He was used to his bigger Cub that you can pull the power back and it will glide nicely. With the micro trainers, they stall when the power is pulled back too far. One trick on the props, paint the tips with neon paint to make them easier to find in the grass. Hopefully you can get a replacement soon and get back into the air!

@BRGT350 Yeah I should paint the prop. I am also 75% done with CAD modeling the prop hub. Hopefully we can print those instead of buying the whole assembly. Was showing my 12yr old how to use SolidWorks and our 3D printer. That or are these prop savers generic and purchasable by themself? I hadn't seen them before but I'm new to RC planes.

Well done on designing one in SolidWorks! I spent nearly 20-years as a SolidWorks designer before I moved to a different career. The break-away prop hub on the micro trainers is similar to other planes in this class, but I don't think they are interchangeable. The prop for the Mustang and Cub are the same and you can use either one, however the spinners are different, but that is cosmetic. I do know Horizon is working on getting props in faster than originally planned. I don't think anyone is breaking them, but they are losing them. I lost one for about a week or so before finding it. I lost it in the air and it landed in some tall grass. It was ran over by the lawnmower, but wasn't damaged. I cleaned it up and still use it. I painted the prop tips neon yellow and used some chrome markers to paint wide stripes on the backside of the prop blades since the prop usually faces down and the rear is up. Since the prop is designed to pop off, it is a good idea to check it before each flight. If one of the clip-in tabs isn't fully seated, the prop will depart in flight. You shouldn't need to replace the hub on the props unless you had a hard impact on pavement or concrete. My prop comes off almost every flight when I land in the grass, which is what it is designed to do in order to prevent damage. The prop coming off is normal, unless it happens in the air.

Thank you! Logan is 17 now and busy with a project car and girlfriend, but still comes out to the flying field to get in a few flights with the club. He has a Sport Cub S2 that he flies and I let him fly a number of my planes as well. Last winter he got into Microsoft Flight Sim and spending time on that. I hope he does something either aviation or automotive related as he would be good at it. He is a smart kid!

Yeah, she is something very special. I am going to miss seeing her around and at airshows. She would spend time at the local airport each summer and I would always take time to go visit.

It isn't the most historically accurate Hellcat and I am not sure if the decals came applied or applied at assembly. I bought it used. The wing National Insignia is in the wrong spot and that has bothered me along with the paint colors being off. For the $30 I paid for it, the plane is ok with the minor errors. It flies remarkably well. This is a good reminder that I need to get it out and fly it this summer. It only went out once last summer.

@@BRGT350 I love the way all of them fly F4U P-51 Havent flown the Hellcat model yet i have a Dynam one that flies nicely

I had the Tower P-51, but sold it to another club member as I had way too many P-51's all about the same size. I still have my 1.1m HobbyZone/Parkzone Corsair and 1.1m E-flite P-47. I really like how the smaller warbirds fly and they are less of a headache than the larger ones. I just charge up a 2200 3S, throw it in the air, and I am flying. No fuss with retracts or worrying about the runway. Just toss and fly. I miss these simple park flyers.

@@BRGT350 Yeah Retracts are always a annoyance in one way or another everybody eventually will have problems with em no matter what model it is.

yep and you need a perfect runway for them to work well.

Not sure as it has only gone on a few short test flights and the flight time will be heavily dependent on the type of flying with scale flying giving the maximum flight time and 3D/advanced aerobatics having the lowest flight time.

the Micro P-51 is cheaper than the UMX P-51. It will hold up better to crashes, but gives up a lot of scale fidelity and flight performance. For me, the UMX P-51 is 100% the way to go, but I am also not looking for a first plane to get started. If I was just getting started, the Micro P-51 would be high on my list.

The wonderful symphony of radial engine pistons all working together.

it was one of the more impressive warbird air demonstrations I have ever seen. The wing tips sure looked really close to the ground, but no idea how close they really were. Bernie was really pushing the Thunderbolt for each of his flights. Hoping he will be back at Oshkosh later this month. I haven't checked the schedule yet to see who is all coming. I do know there should be a collection of British warbirds there, including a Lancaster.

The Cub without the landing gear most likely has a higher thrust to weight ratio as it is smaller overall than the Mustang. The Cub is a bit more draggy with the wing struts and cowl shape. Having flown both back to back with the gear off, both are very similar. Both have a lot of thrust due to the giant prop. For very different designs, they fly more like each other than I would have expected. I have flown a lot Mustangs over the years and a number of different Cubs and other high-wing aircraft. Those all fly very different to each other, but the Micro trainers are very similar. You can't go wrong with either. I would probably pick the Mustang because it is available today, it is a Mustang, the invasion stripes help with orientation, and it looks good in the air with the gear off.

@@BRGT350 Thanks once again! will do!

no problem, happy to help!

@@BRGT350 one last question, if either can pull vertical, which does it better?

both should be equal in that aspect given the same power power system.

The Micro Cub and Micro Mustang are very similar in terms of flight performance. The Cub doesn't fly as much like a Cub as it looks like it should. The Mustang also isn't as aerobatic as I would have expected, but I also didn't do much in terms of aerobatics. You could easily go from one of the Micro trainers directly into a UMX plane or larger plane as your next step. They provide a good amount of challenge without being difficult, which is good for a trainer, and also don't make it so easy that you get overly confident. I have handed both the Cub and Mustang over to pilots with little or no previous experience and both were equally successful. If you go with the Mustang, I suggest removing the gear and painting the prop tips bright yellow. Both planes fly much better with the gear off and just land in the grass. If you can master either of the Micro planes in intermediate mode, you are fully ready for a UMX model or even step up into the 1.5m Timber.

Take a look at the Apprentice STOL as it might be a better option. It has better durability compared to the Sport Cub S and a better flying experience than the XCub. Plus it is a little bigger and can handle wind better. You can't go wrong with the XCub, but wanted to give you another option that wasn't in the video. The AeroScout mini wasn't as good as the 1.1m, which is an outstanding trainer.

@@BRGT350 that one is WAY to expensive for me

I’m limited to around $100 us/$150 au

Also it needs to have the durability off teh Xcub, has to have SAFE and can't be much bigger that the mini scout

sounds like the XCub is going to be perfect for you. It is a good plane and I am enjoying flying it and having others try it out.

what is wrong with them?

I kept the body intact, but removed the gear and rotor blades. I masked the main rotor head and the tail rotor motor. I wiped the body down with a paper towel to remove any dirt or dust and shot directly over the factory paint and decals. The factory paint is a great primer. I decided against adding a clear coat as it was already very glossy and I had a lot of coats of paint on the helicopter already and didn't want to add anymore weight to it. Normally, I spray Rustoleum 2X clear or brush on Varathane over the models to seal them, but didn't on the Eclipse. It was a fun project and really turned out well.

@@BRGT350 Thanks for info! And congrats on doing the first custom Eclipse 360!

Thanks! I am really happy how it turned out. Now it has me thinking about getting into helicopters!

www.horizonhobby.com/search?q=%22LOS03022Standardparts%22&prefn1=discontinued&prefv1=false&start=0&sz=24&return=true Looks a lot of parts are still available and the diff is on backorder and expected in August. I believe the majority of 22S parts are interchangeable, so look at the drag cars and buggy as well.

with the transmitter on and battery installed, move the throttle stick all the way up until it beeps and then all the way down until it beeps. Once that is done, the ESC is initialized and the throttle will respond.

@@BRGT350 tried that did not work

@@ninjahunter6372I have the same issue with mine not having throttle or elevator control the rest of the controls work

Do the rest of the controls work? One option is to lower the throttle trim as far as it will go, then go full up on the throttle until it beeps, full down until it beeps, and then recenter the throttle trim. If that doesn't work, try rebinding the plane to the transmitter. If no luck there, contact customer service.

@@BRGT350 my controller is not allowing me to even do that it beeps when I hit the down, but when I go up, I get no tone

Radiomaster may work, but not sure.

That is odd and something I had not heard of before.

You can swap out that spacer for a shaft collar so you would have a shaft collar on both sides of the wheel. That is the easiest fix and a better way to go.

@@BRGT350 yea I don't have one so is it OK if spacer lose

@@BRGT350 I'm beginner seems so hard to put planes together complicated manual etc

The Carbon Cub is an older design that is a bit more complicated to assemble than most newer designs. The shaft collars aren't needed, but a good solution to the loose spacers. I know of plenty of people that fly with the factory setup and are just fine. I used the collars on my nephew's Cub because I liked that solution better. It kept the wheel perpendicular to the axle better and made it easier on the ground to taxi.

@@BRGT350 and I noticed the elevator has hard time moving manually

yep! sure is! I picked up last year and I really enjoy it. I wanted a nice scale boat to use on my pond and the Swift Boat is perfect for that. I can turn on the lights and go out for an evening patrol. The detail on it is awesome! It is like a scale model. Also on the shelf is a 1/10 version of my Ford Mustang and Ford Focus.