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We all do, gotta look out for each other😉

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We all have those days❤️

They’re fussy! Dont beat yourself up

Valid point!

There ya go!

It doesn’t matter because Latin and Ancient Greek, the two primary languages used for botanical Latin, are “dead” languages that no one speaks. Botanical Latin is also a written language not a spoken language. It’s a means of classifying living organisms in the plant kingdom, not a language for people to speak. If you look into this you’ll find countless sources that declare no official pronunciation for botanical Latin.

​@@plantgayforlifelook further and deeper as pronunciation of the Latin language exists, and the English one isn't it.

I appreciate that!

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Thank you!

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I’m aware of the confusion, I’m simply using terms that others have used regarding this topic. In many crystallinum articles I’ve read, it is often referred to as a “closed sinus.”

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Haha! They are a PLAGUE on ascetic plant collecting!

@@plantgayforlife OH no! I asked around. My family hate the red cups. My other plant friends, they also use the same red cups no matter where they live and evey one hates them too, except me apparently. hahahha

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Thanks! Happy to give the good vibes!

Valid point!

Thank you very much! They’re fun to make😁

Haha! We all do at some point

Exactly! In my pinned comment I mention that I personally don’t get this confusion but all the articles out there that talk about crystallinum mention this controversy so I’m just relaying it. But I completely agree! They can vary so much, even leaf to leaf.

So true! Collecting is great until it’s not. So we always have to draw a line in the sand so it doesn’t become hoarding haha!

That would be cool! We’ve talked about that with each other before so ya never know!

Latin was chosen because it is the foundation of many European languages, with a broad vocabulary capable of conveying precise meaning when classifying hundreds of thousands of plants. Botanical Latin also incorporates Ancient Greek, like in the name “Anthurium” for example. Latin and the Ancient Greek dialect compared to modern Greek are essential “dead” since no one speaks them anymore. So while researchers can do their best to predict how these languages were properly pronounced, we will never know for sure.

@@plantgayforlife That's not the reason why Latin was chosen. Scientific Latin, including the latinized versions of Greek words are pronounced as they were pronounced in Latin in the 17th and 18th centuries. The ancient pronunciation of these Languages is irrelevant.

@@1marcelo​​⁠if the pronunciation of these languages is “irrelevant” then you just proved my point!😂 There is no right or wrong pronunciation of Botanical Latin because it’s a written language, not a spoken language like English. And whatever you’re speaking is not a spoken language either.

@@plantgayforlife That's not at all what I said. I said the ancient pronunciation of these languages, which is apparently important to you and you claim that we don't know, is irrelevant to the modern use because we definitely know how scientific Latin was pronounced in the 18th century. Anyway, google why Latin was chosen as a scientific language and learn something new instead of making things up.

@@1marcelo​​⁠or how about you read any of these articles that completely discredit your claims. ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=16927 www.calflora.net/botanicalnames/pronunciation.html www.jlhudsonseeds.net/Pronunciation.htm www.iapt-taxon.org/historic/Congress/IBC_1959/remarks.pdf www.conifers.org/topics/latin.php#:~:text=There%20are%20basically%20only%20two,as%20in%20liturgical%20spoken%20Latin.

Oh of course! Anthurium papinamamamamamaamamaimmamamigmmfim

That is completely false. Genetic similarity can only be determined scientifically by analyzing DNA . Not just by looking at regional pinpoints on a map. Living organisms aren’t automatically genetically similar just because they live in certain areas.

​@@plantgayforlife there is no phylogenetic data showing close relationship between crystallinum and papillilaminum. If you have data or scientific papers showing this, please do share. Anthurium papillilaminum is closely related and sympatric to A. ochranthum and forms many natural hybrids. In molecular phylogeny A. crystallinum shows close relationship with A. magnificum and besseae aff. Data for A. forgetii was not used in those papers. Also do not use my photo in your video without giving credit.

@@ameybhide8525wow, cool info. Care to share more?

Thank you very much!

Thank you! Cheers!

Welcome!

More to come!

could potentially have a distant forgetti ancestor..?

I told my mom it was a false aralia ( back in ‘75)

So it has been claimed