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Bad Faith
United States
Registrace 27. 08. 2020
based on the hit tv show
With Briahna Joy Gray
With Briahna Joy Gray
AOC's Bad Faith ATTACKS on Jill Stein (w/ Sabby Sabs)
Host of the Sabby Sabs show returns to Bad Faith to break down AOC's very bad faith attack on Jill Stein, and to discuss the Democratic Party's ramped up attacks on Greens in the wake of a disastrous-for-Kamala poll showing Muslim voters are looking to Stein as an alternative.
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Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands)
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How to Turn Protests into Revolutionary CHANGE (w/ Vincent Bevins)
zhlédnutí 12KPřed 12 hodinami
Author of The Jakarta Method and If We Burn: The Mass Protest Decade & the Missing Revolution, Vincent Bevins, joins Bad Faith to discuss how to turn protests into revolutionary change. In If We Burn, he analyzes over a dozen movements from the Arab Spring to Occupy Wall Street to Hong Kong to Brazil to establish the conditions for mass movements. But he takes it a step rather- investigation wh...
Did Bernie PROVE Working With Dems Can't Be Done? (w/ David Sirota)
zhlédnutí 24KPřed 21 hodinou
Journalist, Bernie 2020 speech writer, and founder of The Lever joins Bad Faith to talk corruption in the wake of his new podcast series Masterplan, which tracks the roots of American corruption to the Powell memo and beyond. We discuss the DNC, Chris Cuomo's newfound interest in the corrupting power of money in politics, & Kamala's price capping plan and the bipartisan backlash to it. We also ...
AOC Gaslights on Gaza, Kamala's "Lethal" Military? Green Party Reacts
zhlédnutí 24KPřed dnem
Last week, most eyes were glued to the Democratic National Convention programing: The Lil Jon roll call, AOC proclaiming that Harris is working "tirelessly" for a ceasefire, JB Pritzker bragging that he is a better billionaire than Trump, and Harris proclaiming hers will be the most "lethal" military ever. But the Green Party also had its own nominating convention, which prioritized the issues ...
Media Gaslights about Kamala Fighting for a Ceasefire (w/ Ralph Nader)
zhlédnutí 44KPřed 14 dny
Consumer advocate, former Green Party presidential candidate, & author Ralph Nader returns to Bad Faith with Briahna Joy Gray to cut through the media gaslighting about Harris "fighting tirelessly" for a ceasefire and to respond to an online-left that has been successfully wooed by "vibes" to embrace Kamala despite her commitment to providing arms to a genocidal state. Subscribe to Bad Faith on...
Israel Wants to DRAG The US Into a Broader War (w/ Trita Parsi)
zhlédnutí 36KPřed 14 dny
Dr. Trita Parsi of the Quincy Institute returns to Bad Faith to explain how the Israel's assassination of of Hamas top ceasefire negotiator, Ismail Haniyeh, in Tehran reflects Israel's lack of good faith and threatens broader regional war. Why does Israel want war with Iran, what are the current risks of escalation in the region? Also, what should we make of Trump's recent meeting with Netanyah...
Kamala's Corporate HACK Brother in Law is Her Senior Advisor (w/ David Dayen)
zhlédnutí 24KPřed 21 dnem
Executive Editor of The American Prospect returns to Bad Faith to help decipher Kamala Harris’s economic policy. Having dodged interviews and eschewed posting policy proposals, we’re left reading the tea leaves- analyzing who she’s surrounded herself with, and what her surrogates have been saying on CNBC and beyond. What does it mean that her brother in law, Uber’s chief legal officer & Obama D...
What the US Left Can Learn From GLOBAL Left Movements (w/ Vijay Prasad)
zhlédnutí 17KPřed 21 dnem
Historian, author, journalist and Marxist intellectuals Vijay Prashad returns to Bad Faith to talk progressives for Kamala, the Tim Walz pick, CorI Bush’s ouster, & what lessons global movements, including recent student protests in Bangladesh, hold for the American left. Subscribe to Bad Faith on CZcams for video of this episode. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfait...
Doctor Witnessed UNSPEAKABLE Horrors in Gaza (w/ Dr. Feroze Sidwa)
zhlédnutí 9KPřed měsícem
Dr. Feroze Sidwa is a trauma and critical care physician who volunteered in Gaza at European hospital earlier this spring. Last month, he and a fellow volunteer wrote an oped in Politico detailing their experience. Somehow, despite the unspeakable images out of Gaza we’ve all been watching for the better part of a year, their account managed to capture unique horrors endemic to this genocide. D...
JD Vance ABANDONED East Palestine (w/ Jordan Chariton)
zhlédnutí 13KPřed měsícem
Status Coup’s Jordan Chariton returns to Bad Faith to provide an update on the toxic fallout from the East Palestine train derailment, and report on how residents on the ground are souring on their Senator, JD Vance. Vance once championed the people of East Palestine, but he has failed to follow up on new revelations that the crisis was mismanaged. Does his inclusion on the Trump 2024 ticket co...
Where the ABANDON Biden Movement Goes From Here (w/ Ahmad Hudhayfah)
zhlédnutí 15KPřed měsícem
The Abandon Biden movement was created to leverage votes to secure a ceasefire, or in the alternative, punish Biden for failing to move on that issue. What does the Abandon Biden movement do now that Biden is no longer on the ticket? Head of communications Ahmad Hudhayfah joins Bad Faith to discuss the movement’s attitude to Kamala Harris, its current demands, and what the makes of so many “coc...
Progressives Rehabilitating Kamala's HORRIBLE Record (w/ Alec Karakatsanis)
zhlédnutí 30KPřed měsícem
Civil rights attorney, former public defender, and founder of Civil Rights Corps joins Bad Faith to discuss his new article which exposes the massive disinformation campaign around police body cameras which has led liberals to embrace surveillance technology as a progressive reform. He explains the evidence which exposes the true purpose of body cameras, and addresses whether the recent on-came...
Breaking Down AOC's Rambling, Incoherent Support for Biden (w/ Kshama Sawant)
zhlédnutí 34KPřed měsícem
Former Seattle City Council member, Socialist, & co-founder of Socialist Alternative & Workers Strike Back returns to Bad Faith for an important conversation with Briahna Joy Gray about where the lefts' focus should be during one of the most tumultuous electoral seasons in American history. AOC, Biden, and almost all progressive elected through their support behind Biden even as the general pub...
What the TRUTH Behind the RFK Assassination Tells Us About the TRUMP ATTACK (w/ Lisa Pease)
zhlédnutí 30KPřed měsícem
Author of A Lie Too Big to Fail: The Real History of the Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy joins Bad Faith to detail her research into what she believes is the true story behind the assassination of RFK, and to use her expertise on historical assassinations to weigh in on the recent attempt on Trump's life. Subscribe to Bad Faith on CZcams for video of this episode. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (...
Progressives DEFENDING Biden, Hezbollah + Israel Going to WAR? (w/ Rania Khalek)
zhlédnutí 43KPřed měsícem
BreakThrough News journalist Rania Khalek returns to the podcast to talk Hezbollah and developments that could lead to a broader regional war, but not before she indulges in some horse race talk. Weeks after Biden’s disastrous debate, why are progressives his strongest defenders, and why isn’t a real ceasefire in Gaza a non negotiable for progressive electeds? (Note that this was filmed before ...
DNC Insider Talks: How to REPLACE Biden (w/ Dr. James Zogby)
zhlédnutí 24KPřed měsícem
DNC Insider Talks: How to REPLACE Biden (w/ Dr. James Zogby)
DEBATE: What Should the Left Do About SCOTUS? (w/ Eric Segall)
zhlédnutí 15KPřed měsícem
DEBATE: What Should the Left Do About SCOTUS? (w/ Eric Segall)
DEBATE: Break The Duopoly By Voting For RFK Jr.? (w/ Kim Iversen)
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DEBATE: Break The Duopoly By Voting For RFK Jr.? (w/ Kim Iversen)
US State Dept Official RESIGNS Over Israel's Genocide (W/ Annelle Sheline)
zhlédnutí 24KPřed 2 měsíci
US State Dept Official RESIGNS Over Israel's Genocide (W/ Annelle Sheline)
Pro-Israel Goons Try To Silence Human Rights Defender (w/ Sarah Leah Whitson)
zhlédnutí 26KPřed 2 měsíci
Pro-Israel Goons Try To Silence Human Rights Defender (w/ Sarah Leah Whitson)
Israeli BDS Coordinator Says Boycott of Israel is WORKING (w/ Shir Hever)
zhlédnutí 70KPřed 2 měsíci
Israeli BDS Coordinator Says Boycott of Israel is WORKING (w/ Shir Hever)
Jeffrey Sachs: Ukrainians Still Dying For Out of Control US Imperialist Regime
zhlédnutí 90KPřed 2 měsíci
Jeffrey Sachs: Ukrainians Still Dying For Out of Control US Imperialist Regime
US + Israel STALL Ceasefire Deal and Blame Hamas (w/ Sam Husseini)
zhlédnutí 71KPřed 2 měsíci
US Israel STALL Ceasefire Deal and Blame Hamas (w/ Sam Husseini)
Briahna CANCELED for Being Pro-Palestine? What Really Happened? (w/ Due Dissidence)
zhlédnutí 100KPřed 2 měsíci
Briahna CANCELED for Being Pro-Palestine? What Really Happened? (w/ Due Dissidence)
Harvard Students Speak Out Against Pro-Palestine Suspensions
zhlédnutí 17KPřed 3 měsíci
Harvard Students Speak Out Against Pro-Palestine Suspensions
"I'm not a Stalinist" - Professor pressed on DEMOTIVATING Protesting Students
zhlédnutí 7KPřed 3 měsíci
"I'm not a Stalinist" - Professor pressed on DEMOTIVATING Protesting Students
How to Break Free of "Vote Blue No Matter Who" (w/ Eddie Glaude)
zhlédnutí 37KPřed 3 měsíci
How to Break Free of "Vote Blue No Matter Who" (w/ Eddie Glaude)
Dem Strategists PANICKING Over Biden's Poll Numbers (w/ John Nichols)
zhlédnutí 22KPřed 3 měsíci
Dem Strategists PANICKING Over Biden's Poll Numbers (w/ John Nichols)
Libertarians Can't Point to ONE Example of Success
zhlédnutí 4,9KPřed 3 měsíci
Libertarians Can't Point to ONE Example of Success
💯❤️🙏🤟👏👌👍 Sabby ROCKS!
The corporate duopoly is intertwined with religion and white supremacy. They believe we will be raptured if zionists live in Palestine They dont care if humanity goes extinct because they believe in heaven. But if there is a heaven, noone in government will be there
AOC is obviously shrewd, and thinks herself even shrewder than she is, but she's not politically intelligent in that deeply devious way that keeps snakes like Pelosi and Schumer in the money decade after decade. If she was, she'd instantly realize that displaying her careerist cards so obviously is burning through the remnants of her credibility much too quickly to recoup the loss with her typical schoolgirl stunts. And then what? Her owners will dump her like an expensively dressed kleenex.
Shes 40 but that means she grew up without the internet and likely missed out on real journalistic research on a global scale
does this lady ever give us a black man point of view and the other ones married to mas / sa ; - (
America is white supremacy before and also right now. Black men should vote jill stein to earn the reparations that many people agree should be given to families of slaves
does this lady ever give us a black man point of view and the other ones married to mas / sa ; - (
Dr Clarke said he know some blacks that stop eating cornbread after integration 😊😊
Initially I thought the same - why didn't she wasn't serious before, but when i heard Matt Hoh in Judging Freedom how Democrats did the dirty things to his candidacy, i was stunned. how it is possible to that much criminality in USA? Now I know they pretty much can do anything.
I feel i was lied to all my life. I feel like a cuck 😡
Absolute waste as usual listening to Sirota. To summarize him: Democrats are problematic but ultimately not that bad, so just keep voting blue (just remember to whine about it to feign moral superiority)
Two beautiful and informed black women❤
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Too many people playing the "lesser evil" game who don't understand the rules. If you're going for the "lesser evil" then you have to actually have a plan to make it "not evil." It's AT BEST a delaying tactic, but is MOST COMMONLY just a voting strategy of the lazy, the self-interested, the spineless. Voting for the "lesser evil" doesn't help anyone but the people who align with "evil." It SLOWS DOWN the rate of harm INCREASE rather than actually reducing harm. "Lesser evil" voting is just a maintenance of the right-drifting status quo. That's all it is. You can delude yourselves all you want about how the "conditions of resistance/protest" are protected so that the fight can continue, but that's just a smokescreen; you aren't resisting, you aren't protesting, you are just making excuses for why you knowingly support the very things you claim to be against. The truth is that you would rather vote for someone who will enable the mass slaughter of tens of thousands of people if it means your personal comfort won't be threatened as strongly....but it WILL be threatened because, as you keep nodding along with as you hear it, the people you vote for are the same ones trying to "find the middle ground" between their current position and the position of the fascists, which constantly keeps shifting their current position rightwards. You would rather "raise the temperature slowly" than have it "rise all at once," because it's all about your comfort, not what you're actually voting for. Because when you vote for the "lesser evil" you WILL get that obscene body count, all those people dead, mutilated, suffering, because you lacked any kind of courage to fight against it. Your "strongly worded letters" and weak protests amount to nothing but an annoying buz that the people you call "lesser evil" and say "we can work with" will 100% ignore except for lip service and empty gestures. Because that's what you tell them they can do. You TELL them that they can do whatever they want and you will vote for them, gleefully even, dog-piling anyone who stands against them, by your refusal to fight against them in the one way that you can given your laziness, your self-interested obsession over your personal comfort: with your vote. Because let's be honest, you have no interest in organizing. You have no interest in doing literally anything but the bare minimum required to signal your virtue about how much you care...but not enough to prove it with action. Organizing is the one thing that makes "lesser evil" voting valid. If you aren't using the time bought by it to organize and build a real movement then you are just adding to the problems, not helping lessen them. You know that everything you say is excuses, but you're so deep in them that you can't stop. So these quotes are offensive to you when they're directed at you and how you vote: "I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." -MLK Jr, Letter from Birmingham Jail, 1963 "Though I would carefully avoid giving unnecessary offence, yet I am inclined to believe, that all those who espouse the doctrine of reconciliation, may be included within the following descriptions. Interested men who are not to be trusted; weak men, who cannot see; prejudiced men who will not see; and a certain set of moderate men, who think better of the European world than it deserves; and this last class, by an ill-judged deliberation, will be the cause of more calamities to this continent than all the other three..." "It is the good fortune of many to live distant from the scene of present sorrow; the evil is not sufficiently brought to their doors to make them feel the precariousness..." "But if you say, you can pass the violations over, then I ask, hath your house been burnt? Has your property been destroyed before your face? Are your wife and children destitute of a bed to lie on, or bread to live on? Have you lost a parent or a child by their hands, and yourself the ruined and wretched survivor? If you have not, then are you not a judge of those who have. But if you have and can still shake hands with the murderers, then are you unworthy the name of husband, father, friend, or lover, and whatever may be your rank or title in life, you have the heart of a coward, and the spirit of a sycophant...." "Every quiet method for peace hath been ineffectual. Our prayers have been rejected with disdain; and only tended to convince us, that nothing flatters vanity, or confirms obstinacy in Kings, more than repeated petitioning - and nothing hath contributed more than that very measure to make the Kings of Europe absolute: Witness Denmark and Sweden. Wherefore, since nothing but blows will do, for God's sake let us come to a final separation, and not leave the next generation to be cutting throats, under the violated names of parent and child." -Thomas Paine, excerpts from "Common Sense," 1776 The only people who should be ashamed are the ones who refuse to fight because they don't want to risk their comfort, or really anything. The people who walk the middle road, even with the best intentions and the most scathing critiques, are the most dangerous people to civil rights and general social progress. They defend the status quo because there's always a "greater evil" that must be stopped, even though the "lesser evil" of today WAS the "greater evil" of yesterday. They would rather protect what they have than fight to stop senseless slaughter paid for by their taxes and even the blood of their fellows. They would rather avoid rocking the boat because they're afraid of the waves when they should be infinitely more afraid of sitting still and allowing the boat to sink from all of the holes that the captain keeps making. You sleep in the bed you make. Any excuses for why you made it that way are irrelevent and worthless. If you vote for people you know will continue to enable genocide, then you are voting for people you know will continue to enable genocide. The suffering and death will be on your head just as it will be on the heads of the rest who vote for that, just as it will be on the heads of people like Henry Kissinger who actually order it be done. You can't say that you didn't vote for that, because you KNOW that's what you'll get when you vote for it. You don't like it, but you sure as schist won't do anything to stop it. So shove your excuses. You either vote for atrocities or against them. If you claim to be a leftist then you can't vote for the atrocity-doers without outing yourself as a liberal; when you are scratched a fascist bleeds just as surely as any other, because you have the power to fight and you instead continue to enable it, doubling down on it even. We're passed the point of "lesser evil" voting being reasonable because that has been the ONLY strategy, making it almost impossible for any other strategy to be employed. And they thank you for your service in helping them gain and maintain this stranglehold over US political discourse and action.
Two of the most fearless principled people
I think I hear Glenn Loury calling for a " cultural revolution ". Which I agree. I think we have to draw the conclusion that given the existing conditions, everyone won't be saved. Great Conversation by both commentators.
She is married to a Jew which should tell you how much power the Jews have
You trot out the green party every 4 year to prey on dissaffected lefies. What have you archieved? Nothing, except helped elect republicans. This is the most obvious grift in the World. How is your patronage doing, Brie?
Um you have to google 5 minutes to realize this comment is anti-reality. Cmon man dont spout what your parents tell you
Most of the leftie-leaning CZcamsrs who are able to accept Harris are all the ones who are doing well financially so, in the end, nothing fundamentally changes for them . At the end of the day, they got families and homes and a nice life they want to keep so they can go with the status quo.
EXACTLY
Thank you both for this conversation. Completely echo Bree's shock at "some people" in this media space who have flipped to support the establishment and slander third parties.
Is it probable that the Harris/Walz candidates and Corporate Democrats are covertly working behind the scenes to stop the right-wing Netanyahu's slaughter of Gaza without incurring the overt propaganda wrath of the Trump-Ism Gang of Pricks? In other words, domestic context wise, the right (especially MAGA) is more organized, more well-funded, more propaganda ruthless, and more wannabe domestic terrorist bigoted than Corporate Democrats and their fractured intra-group fighting liberal vs progressive base.
Oh, Anand is SO disingenuous
Great interview.
Sure Bri but 26:57 it didn’t stop, it did pause briefly but it continued in similar force no? Yes with optimism for Kamala, which u don’t really share, but can’t they be optimistic? Can you list any outlets that aren’t continuing their coverage of Gza? Any orgs that stopped their pressure? Please
"... far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed ..." Okay! 1. If American voters accept this apologist propaganda and complicity, then what's a permissible number of innocent Palestinians civilians that Israeli should have only slaughtered? 2. If Israeli has a right to defend itself (supposedly against a militia armed Hamas, then do innocent Gaza Palestinians also have a self-defense right (via armed violence) to stop Israel slaughtering them? Who gets to decide the rules of engagement, rules of war, rules of self-defense -- in an asymmetrical Goliath vs David conflict? 🤔
I'm voting for Stein/GP. I never vote corporate and I always vote. AOC has always been a tool of capitalism and her party is a tool of capitalism.
I really hate AOC voice 😒
Kamala is disgusting in this repeat of lies.. all of these people.. Bash.. Peirs Morgan.. all of them.. WTF..
Damn! Years ago AOC was the spunky new kid and a lot of people liked that. Now she's that sour, old 'Ho that will roll your pockets. She fu@ked up.
It is like an abuser, "Where else you gonna go? Nobody else is going to take care of you." Green Party for me.
AOC IS BRILLIANT FANTASTIC FIGHTING EVERY DAY. FOR AMERICA 1ST ALWAYSSSSS NOT THIS SUDDEN!!! FLASH PAN DISRUPTIVE CHAOS ATTENTION DEADLY UNINFORMED STEIN ATTENTION SEEKER STEIN FROM PUTIN OR CORP RICH WANTING ZERO TAXRATES
The New Black Media doesn't support Trump or Harris, but you're on the Bernie Wagon. You're not B1
EVERY VOTE FOR JILL STEIN. HELPS TRUMP. HUGE HELPS TRUMP. BIDEN CUT ARMS TO NETANYAHU IN HALF BUT TRUMP GOT MAGGA CONGRESS TO ATTACK BIDEN + THEY INVITED NETANYAHU TO MARLAGO AN CONGRESS. STEINS SEVERELY UNINFORMED AN HUGE HELPING TRUMP GET MORE VOTES THAT CAN CUT TAXRATES FOR CORPORATIONS AN BILLIONARES AN BANKRUPT AMERICA
VOTE FOR DR. STEIN, DON'T VOTE FOR GENOHCIDE
@dlewis895 obama bailing out the banks brought trump buddy. You are arguing 2+2=3. Idk how to help you yo
I love Brianna. She is an exceptional political analyst
She has no policies on her website both bc she doesnt want everyone to know how bad her policies are and bc she can appeal to everyone bc no one can be against what she wants to do bc no one know what it is she wnats to to do. The less she says the less voters she'll lose bc everyone will image she might want what they want
Omg I love both of you ladies
I am not scared of trump, I just don’t like that clown and I have to undo your dumb vote.
Can't watch West media, so much lies and propaganda. Justice for Palestine. Registence has rights to defend their land.
Great Show 😊
its EXTREMELY RARE that Greens hold any office at all, even in very Progressive areas. I think AOC was right traqgically, that the GReens are not doing a ok job downballot and truth is they really could be. It seems theyre not really trying harde at all to get Greens into local offices and if they did Greens would be a whole different ballgame and its really really wrong that Greens are not doing well. I believe they do the bare minimum to stay on the ballot and they do well at stayijng on the ballots but they dont do well in any way at winning and if theyre ever goint to get to 5 ande if theyre ever going to be a viable Party they have got to start taking local races seriously and getr enough money and backup for Greens who want to run locally. Im a Green and where I live in DC they do enough to stay on the balloot but they dont really seriously try to win, they just go through the motions. One Green candidate here ran and asked for support and the support was absolutely not there for her, not at all. The person incharge of the website would not even work on her website. Its that bad. And this is why Greens stay weak and will never get to 5, not if they dont really really work at winning downballot seats. But Grees dont have it together enough to win bc they are not supporting their candidates basically at all. This is a tragedy and it makes me want to quit being a Green honestly.
AOC has lost all credibility. She is compromised.
Love to see my sisters holding it down 💪🏽
Trump Fear™️ is no longer working as well not only because the Dem platform is to the right of Reagan but also because of Harris’s history. In 2024, Israel lobby-funded Harris was anointed (not voter elected) POTUS candidate, from 2020 to 2024 she has served without distinction as VP, and in 2020 she totally failed as a candidate. She still can’t handle an interview. We’ll soon find out whether, unlike in 2020, she can handle a debate.
Im pretty stupid. But goddamm entertaining hah!
Sorry, i was replying to the phone i think.
Like RFK, AOC is stark raving crazy out of touch with reality.
Guys like Sirota piss me off.
Love these women
So appreciate both of you. Great to have Bri and Saaby in conversation. Stein/Ware 2024 Swing state AZ.
SMART SMART SABBY!
Such respect for Sabby for your honesty and truthful objectivity. Truth and Justice.
Thank goodness we got the Greens back on the Missouri ballot. I am so glad my vote for Jill Stein will count.
This one here - AO….This kind of ambition…and brokenness, why would someone want someone in a leadership position, when in her early career she has gone this way. Sure she’s going after Jill. Jill has the kind of integrity Miss AO couldn’t develop in 5 more lifetimes of continuouswork.
🔥 Great debate, ladies!