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In my opinion, at the end of Third age: - The Rangers of the North can live to be around 100 years old and their Chieftain can live from 150 - 160 years old. - The Steward of Gondor and the Prince of Dol Amroth can live from 100 - 120 years old depending on his nobility and mightiness. In addition, lesser nobles of Gondor can live from 80 - 100 years old.

In my opinion, at the end of Third age: - The Rangers of the North can live to be around 100 years old and their Chieftain can live from 150 - 160 years old. - The Steward of Gondor and the Prince of Dol Amroth can live from 100 - 120 years old depending on his nobility and mightiness. In addition, lesser nobles of Gondor can live from 80 - 100 years old.

"The class system wasn't so rigid that you couldn't advance. . ." and procedes to use Sam as an example. Sure, advancement isn't hard. You just have to help a wealthy kid save the entire world. No big.

What does it actually *matter* literarily or mytho-poetically what the “exact numbers of orcs, Easterlings, Haradrim, trolls, Corsairs, and Black Numenoreans” were in Sauron’s armies? When the text of LOTR tells us that the Fallen Maia’s forces are “too vast to be defeated by force of arms,” **THAT** is the essential information: it tells us that no matter how magically “powerful” Gandalf is; regardless of how brave, inspiring, stalwart, and strong Aragorn is; no matter how accurate Legolas’s bow, or how hard Gimli’s axe swings; no matter how gallant Eomir is and how self-sacrificing and altruistic Theoden King, Eowyn, Merry, and Pippin are--what *really* can bring Sauron The Dark Lord down is the simple, loving, loyal, tenacious selfless *friendship* of two seemingly small, insignificant Hobbits staying TRUE to the end. THAT is the quest that can hit Sauron where he is *weakest,* in the place nearly everyone thinks embodies his POWER: The Ring. Caring more for the Other than for Oneself: THAT is All that can defeat the Immense--but ultimately empty--Pride and Narcissism of Sauron… THAT is Tolkien’s crntral, humanist message in LOTR. It is, in truth, both impossible *and* irrelevant to try to put precise numbers on all the soldiers of Sauron in LOTR, as such numbers are ultimately *beside the point.*

I think its crazy to think that in Tolkien's world its like 100 generations between Elrond's brother Elros and Aragorn. In our reality, most people stop shutting their brains off at second cousins. I keep in touch with some third cousins. However, in Aragorn's case if he is the patrilineal decendant of Elros, hypothetically Aragorn has the same Y chromosome as Elrond and also would share the same last name ( in theory). My most meaningful third cousin is the great grandson of my great grandfather's sole younger brother. So even though we are several generations apart, i think the male link means something. That's the main thing of what keeps the Aragorn importance relevant to his marriage to Arwen.

The princes of Dol Amroth were also related to both Denethor and Theoden. Denethor was Imrahil's brother-in-law, while Eomer married Imrahil's daughter, and Theoden's mother was also from Dol Amroth.

Hold on there - Eärnil II's father Siriondil and King Ondoher were both great-grandchildren of King Telumehtar Umbardacil. Their fathers were first cousins, making them second cousins to each other. Therefore Eärnil II was second cousin, once removed, to Ondoher. That isn't "distant." That's actually pretty close. It is, in fact, the same degree of relationship of Frodo to his "uncle" Bilbo on the Baggins side of the family, and I don't recall anyone in the book calling that connection "distant."

It is also interesting that Gandalf at least, enter the colony through the Westgate previously without being attacked by The watcher in the water 🦑 maybe others did as well? Although maybe the pool wasn't so close to the doorway? And aragorn had been in Moria more than 30 years earlier? How old is he?

You need to re-read that part of the books, the 🥁 and 📣 sounded even after the Balrog had gone down the chasm with Gandalf. {So those sounds could not have come from him or at least it's very unlikely), Also they did not encounter the balrog immediately after, {🔥 was seen not long after that but not the Balrog}. Also just because the 21st Hall was their headquarters does not mean that The colony lived their exclusively. It's also interesting that the orcs seemed to have lived, primarily in the upper levels, {as if they were giving the Balrog a wide berth}, well that makes sense we know they were frightened of him. Apparently the idea for Balin's colony, comes at least in part from the Darien scheme, the bankrupt at Scotland in real life.

The subtitles for these videos are hilarious.

Sweet home Alabama..

And here I thought that the relation would be symbolic. Instead I got, Aragorn is litetally related to other characters, as if I could not see that from the appendecies (sic).

Late to the party, but a couple of questions: One, according to Ambarkanta IV, the *southern* straits between Aman and Middle Earth are *also* frozen. How did that happen, if the reason why Forodwaith was cold was because Melkor had been there? Two, when are you going to append your War in Middle Earth series with a prequel of the War of the Powers? 😉

So in what world is death NOT the separation of body and spirit? Sure, there are different exceptions to the rules and differences in use of terminology from system to system, including ones in reality, but that seems to be a constant.

Odd that he claimed to believe in a king that had absolute power but didn't use it being the ideal government, but then wrote into the backstory three super lazy kings that let the country go to crap because they didn't want to bother using their power and a guy after them that had to exercise more power than usual to clean up the mess. I guess there's a downside to everything and moderation is probably the watchword, as with most things.

I think the House of Hurin is related to the Royal House through the female line. Possibly a daughter from the House of Hurin married one of the Kings of Gondor or a younger son. Remember for the Dunédain of Middle Earth, lineage is more focused on the father’s side. That’s why Firiel could not claim the throne of Gondor when her father and brothers died.

I personally can only trace my ancestry to my Great grandfather’s great grandfather. My family name was involuntary changed so it’s hard to research it any further

Was Aragon related to Pippin?

I'd like to know what the Istari(particularly Gandalf) were doing to help Arnor with Angmar.

Maybe I’m being too generous, but it seemed to me that Denethor’s film depiction was a result of the difficulty in translating the nuances of his character to the screen, rather than deliberate character assassination like with Stannis Baratheon in “Game of Thrones.”

Don't forget the mouth of sauron and the witch King! Both probably go back to marach, or beor at the farthest if not elros or some other unnnamed numenorean noble.

He’s also related to the sackville bagginses

Worth noting that Théoden and Éomer were also related to Aragorn in a second way too: Through Théoden and Théodwyn's mother, Morwen, who was a descendant of the Princes of Dol Amroth.

Since the House of Dol Amroth is akin to the Lords of Andunie it means Aragorn is related to the Royal House of Rohan through the line of Dol Amroth as well. Thengel (Theoden’s father) married Morwen of Lossarnach whose house descended from the House of Dol Amroth. Since Denethor married Finduilas of Dol Amroth that means Aragorn is related to Boromir and Faramir through the House of Dol Amroth as well.

Although the Valar do not have offspring-type of lineages, if we could consider them and the Maiar as siblings in a single literal generation, does Aragorn's descendance from Melia the Maiar give him relation to Gandalf/Elorin the Maiar?

It could be argued that Aragorn and Gandalf via the Melian connection (Gandalf called Radagast, another Istar, his cousin)

Aragorn could be considered a cousin of Gandalf through Luthien via Melian

Everyone is descended from that Ho, Tom Bombadil.

Curious, were the Nazgul loyal to Sauron, or extensions of Sauron? For example, I wouldn't call my fingers 'loyal to me'.

So he is related to Gollum…

6 degrees of separation. The Kevin Bacon of middle earth. 🤣Just jokin' great video!

Sauron is very goth, but Melkor is more goth. Get it? More-goth?

I don't think Aragorn is related to the milkman though.

I kind of want to know if any other characters have this kind of family tree, i imagine a few of the elves are like this and maybe the hobbits

Now imagine to find lost heir to the throne somewhere in the Shire.

Americans in the corner ticking off generations from Jamestown, Pocahontas, The Mayflower, Daniel Boone, Jessie James.... etc etc....

LMAO over all the commenters taking this opportunity to flex their own lineages. Given that the number of a person's ancestors more or less doubles with every generation going back (depending on the degree of cousin marriage), the idea of focusing on a noble sixteenth century ancestor while ignoring the other 262,143 ancestors of the same degree is absurd. And if just a few of your foremothers liked to sleep around, the illegitimate births make your whole elaborate family tree a joke.

It might be easier to list the characters to whom he wasn't related.

4:45 Oh no. Balin has his air pods in he cant hear the orc behind him 😭😭😭😭

Algormancy!

Also worth noting that 2 of Aragorn's most distant ancestors are presumably still alive and well, at over 6000 years old each (Tuor and Earendil)

Surprisingly, Aragorn was also related to Bilbo, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin. But it’s best not to talk about THAT.

I can date my family back 700 years. I am directly descended from the Baron of O'Roir of England.

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"chances are you only know your lineage back 4 or 5 generations" 🤔 ←me thinking: not me 😂, I know mine accurately back to 730A.D. (on my mother's side) and back through the Roman empire to the siege of troy if you rely on claims made by an ancestor over 1000 years ago about an event that happened over 1000 years before that. And on my father's side we are Hakka so we can trace our lineage back to about 1300A.D. through records kept at our ancestral Temple, and again I could go back further if I were willing to believe the family origin story through a royal Chinese line back to the ancient God of water.

House of Hurin, oh boy isn't Faramir lucky to be alive

Since you established the distant kinship of Aragorn to the Princes of Dol Amroth, you could also draw Theoden and Eomer's kinship with Aragorn through Theoden's mother, Morwen Steelsheen, a descendant of that line.. Also, Legolas is related to Gorbag, prove me wrong!

With 6,000 years worth of history, it’s not even surprising that he is related to every house

Wait, if Aragorn is related to Eömer... then Eöwyn was in love with her far removed cousin? That's distrubing and wrong.

3:29 So the stewards were a cadet branch of the House of Anárion. When the main line ended, the cadet branch should have assumed the throne. That happened in IRL European monarchy all the time. So why didn't the house of Stewards do that?