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@@darkorkodi3582 yeah deffo 😎 but I was limited for vent space it would also be better if the exhaust ever failed as it'd not suck the fumes in (there is alarms fitted incase that happens btw) but that compartment gets warm from the heat from the heater anyway so it kinda is sucking in warm air, I did think to do what you said after I fitted it if it was a problem but after a few runs and I realised how warm it got under there from the ducting, heater and exhaust I never bothered 😎 the first bit of heater duct that comes from the heater that isn't insulated is also like underfloor heating when you stand in the cabin in socks the floor is well toasty 🤣🤣 but depending on the installation everyone will be different,what you said would be better, rather than dragging cold air in.

No only photos, can I add pics to this thing lol 🤔

@@barnsleyboater yes mate think you can had pictures.or add pictures into video mode.

@@jasonduke4451 haha I meant in the messages, but I can not 🫣🤣 I see from your name you are on the Trent? If by chance that's anywhere near Newark you may see me on the river, it's a princess 32 boat, I'll be doing a new video soon as I'm changing the panels in the back under the canopy so I'll make sure to get some outside footage of it in that video 😎

Thanks 😎 yeah I used a glue for some of the awkward bits like corners that I couldn't get in the heat press, it stuck just the same and nothing has come apart 😎 I used this, although you'd need a bigger tube 🤣 I took the canopy off the other week and jet washed it, it came up brand new 😎 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182720676879?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=TUbujQc4RlO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=486wGK5dQP2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

It would I guess if the bilge smells 🤣 mines bone dry in that compartment so don't get any smells, you could always put a length of pipe on the air in end and have that in your cabin with the air out vent, that would also recycle the warm air, making the heater work less and cabin warm up faster.

@@barnsleyboater thanks

@@jonwallace7015 also if you did that, if anything went wrong with the exhaust and you hadn't got a co detector in the compartment it would stop it sucking fumes into the cabin too.

Thanks 😎

No never had any come out 🤣 my exhaust is a short length so if you only have a short run you won't need it, yeah I think that drain elbow was £50 so not cheap, I just wanted to install it by the book as I was making this video but if I was fitting one again in the same circumstances I wouldn't put that in.

Not sure they will all still work but hopefully help you find what you need 😎 just so you know it's still going strong only thing I've had to replace was the pump, cheap 2 min job and was back up running in 2 mins lol

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 cheers 🥂

@@barnsleyboater im refusing to pay out ridiculous amounts of money for something like this, please do more videos on window covers door covers etc.

I wish I'd done a video for the full canopy I made, but was before I decided to do some boat videos, I did use a heat press for that for the edges as the roller would have taken a rather long time, but used the roller and heat gun to stick the windows in and they have been in 4 years now and not fell or blown off, it's not that hard once you have the material cut to size and the edges done, it's all the little fittings that take up the time. I did each one individually so putting the canopy on then mark one up take it off fit the fitting, put back on and mark the next up and so on, takes longer but you know each one will be in the right spot, took me a full bank holiday wknd in August to do the canopy, I did have the old one to copy tho, I just altered it a bit to my desire. It will save you thousands tho in having one made.

Thank you 🙏

You don't need a silencer in the exhaust you can fit it without, but it makes a difference, my mate has a webasco on his boat with no silencer and when his is on you can hear it half way down the marina, mine with it on you can't hear the exhaust unless you are stood at the side of the boat.

Thank you.

Yes, it still needs sealing to the bracket so definitely use it, just be careful not to over tighten the nuts to hold it down to the bracket, it can cause the fan to catch the casing and itl sound like a lollipop stick in a bicycle spokes 🤣

Top man. yeh now i see its there to make it air tight. Cheers pal👍👍

@@sdn1528 no worries 👍

Sorry I've no idea on petrol boats it's no something I looked into, I know the tank they come with is no good as it's cheap plastic and degrades in sunlight, you may be best ringing a examiner and having a word with them.

It may be because the hatch was open, when the hatch is shut you can't hear it at all, my friend has the same boat as me with a webasco in the same position, he has no exhaust silencer and when his is on all the marina can hear it, my exhaust you can't hear unless you stick your head neat it.

Because it's not in an engine bay, have a look at the pinned post I wasn't sure either as got conflicting info from different folk, I added a link to the correct filter for an engine bay too, the compartment it's in has a bulk head dividing it from the engine bay.

The combustion intake goes through the bulk head and into the engine bay for that exact reason, it's never happened tho, the heating air it sucks in is warmed up by the heat from the heater that locker gets warm when it's running, the exhaust is fully sealed so unless that failed it wouldn't suck any fumes into the air part, also incase something did go wrong there is a co and fire alarm next to the heater in that locker so if say the exhaust snapped lol they would go off instantly before it sucked enough through to cause any problems.

@@barnsleyboater Thanks really informative!

Thanks, glad it helped, best upgrade I've ever fitted to the boat 🤣 makes it comfortable in the winter instead of having a load of electric fan heaters wrapped in a blanket thinking why am I here in this weather 🤣

Thank you 😍 yes all the BSS stuff still stands and I think the heaters are still the same, they just may have different controllers now, btw it's still working faultlessly and has had zero problems so far, not one error code or false start and zero smoke 🤣 I'm amazed myself really after reading the Facebook groups 🤣🤣 thanks again glad it helped. The links in my pinned post probably need updating too.

It has water in the coil no fumes can escape, there is also a co and fire alarm fitted in that area incase anything should go amiss.

It was off eBay, I didn't add that to the pinned post with links because depending where you fit the heater you can't use a glass filter in an engine bay so I only listed the correct kind which is a lot more expensive, but if not in an engine bay then look on eBay or a local motor spares shop will have them, hope that helps, my links in the pinned post probably don't all work now.

@@barnsleyboater Thanks. So if you can't fit a glass filter in the engine bay, nor a plastic one, can you recommend a suitable filter for siting in the engine bay please?

The link is on the pinned post with an explanation why but it's for the BSS, but this is the link to the proper filter suitable for an engine bay www.melloronline.co.uk/Heater_Installation_Accessories_/10707/Eberspacher_Marine_Fuel_Filter_for_use_with_3.5mm_Fuel_hose.html

The fuel stand pipe and shut off tap is from the same place so if you need all 3 will save on postage, the other items are also in the pinned post with links if you need them too 😍

@@barnsleyboater Excellent thanks, that's saved me a lot of wasted time.

Let me know how you get on 🙂

@@barnsleyboater I certainly will! 💯

My canopy took me a full bank holiday wknd, it took longer doing all the fiddly fittings than actual making the material to size and shape, they are the annoying part 🤣 it's still going strong tho, washes up like new every spring and no leaks 😍 one of the zips bust last month I got a local seamstress to put me a new one on so it's back to brand new again 😍

Sorry only just seen this, look on my full install video, not this video, there's a pinned post with links to all the parts, hopefully they still work as it's been on awhile now, but it was off eBay

@@barnsleyboater No problem, I only posted last week, thanks for getting back to me, I found the piece now on your other video, nearly £50 that's expensive for a piece of micro bore copper and one fitting, admittedly welded. from the picture I'll make one easily enough. does the coil ever need refilling with water if left for months?

Yes they are expensive for what they are, cool if you can make one, maybe make a few and sell on eBay if you undercut the 50 for 40 you will be rich in no time 🤣 I've not had to fill mine back up yet, also I've never seen any water come out so not sure it's needed on my short exhaust I think it's more for a longer run of exhaust 🤔

I've been looking for a video likd this as I've bought a diesel heater for my sailing boat and now hopefully I'll be able to install it to BSS standard. Thanks v. much.

The fitting came with a gasket thing but I did use some heat proof silicone too to help stop water getting behind it

I shortened the supplied wires and upgraded to thicker cables to avoid any voltage drop, the live is connected to a in-line fuse then to a isolator switch, just for the heater, then from the isolator to the battery I used a large battery cable to connect to the battery live, the negative cable I upgraded and that runs direct to the battery bank and straight onto the negative terminal.

@@barnsleyboater thanks for the prompt and detailed reply. It's helping me a lot as is your great video 😊

Glad it's helping, I know its a bit long winded lol but it should cover everything in the video, I did a quick tour video of it when it was fitted thats only 2 mins long haha it shows it running and all the parts so should show electrics on it too I think, it's been a while since I watched it 😆

Yeah the all in ones are no good for boats, I think the link to the one I got is still live in the pinned post, it's still going strong and been faultless so can recommend that highly now.

Thank you, im glad you haven't used the silencer they come with as they are not sealed and would have leaked fumes into your boat, glad it has helped thanks again :)

My run is probably the same length as yours and I've never seen any water come out of it so it's up to you I'd say, I just fitted one for peace of mind but at 50 quid it's defo up to you.

Haha cheers, no hiding that no matter how hard you try lol

That will be my northern, Yorkshire accent 🤣🤣🤣 I'm surprised anyone can understand me without subtitles 🤣🤣 glad it helped 😀

The bss changed the rules so it doesn't have to be in copper as long as the fuel hose is rated to the iso7840 standard, which the one in the links is, but the smallest ID they do is 3.5mm, think the crap pipe supplied is 2mm, ive had no issues at all with the pipe I used, from tank to pump is about 2m tops then a short bit from pump to heater, ive never had a error code or any problems at all yet and it's now been in over a year, I go to my boat turn the isolator switch on, press on on the display and off it goes 😆 it amazes me to be fair 😆

@@barnsleyboater if you're ever in North Wales and fancy a sail or just a pint, let me know, I owe you, thank you very much for all this info.

Its no problem just be aware that 5mm ID pipe may be too large I think from tank to pump is OK but from pump to heater it may be too large and cause fuel issues, im not 100% sure on that as my memory of it all is getting foggy now as time goes on lol but bear it in mind incase issues arise, something is telling me in my tiny brain that 4mn is the max ID but I could have dreamt it 😆 let me know how it all goes, I'd also avoid priming it with the controller as most folk end up flooding the heaters and causing all kinds of problems, if you can manually prime it to the pump, then just turn it on it may fail a few times first but it will go, better to do that than flood it.

@@barnsleyboater I have got 5mm pipe to go from tank to pump but its a very short run, barely half a meter, if it proves a problem I will swap it. I plan to prime with the pump but with the end pointing at a bucket then once the system is full attach it to the heater. Might be tell tail if it's struggling with the bore

Good idea it won't flood then :) I carnt see any problems there :)

Thank-you :)

Did you do it yet? Where did you fit the unit? I have a Westerly Cirrus and was thinking under the quarterberth bunk. :) Of course it's a difference between a 22f tboat and a 26ft boat, but Westerlys are sort of similar in shape and one can get ideas from bigger/smaller boats.

The plate wiggles in to the hole then you tighten the nut on the outside that clamps down to the tank with rubber seal, sealing it if you look on the eberspacher marine install instructions there's a diagram showing you

@@barnsleyboater thank you, I'll check again I couldn't find a diagram. Does it expand like a fitting in a brick wall?

Theres a metal flap that goes into the tank with some wiggling then on the outside is a rubber seal and round metal bit to cover the hole, the nut on the outside tightens it all together so the flap on the inside grips the tank and the rubber seal and round bit clamps the outside stopping any leaks

@@barnsleyboater ah! It's the wiggly flap detail that I've missed! That makes sense. Thank you. I can't find that size fuel line from that supplier anymore, Mellor only sell it in very short lengths. I will keep hunting. Thank you.

Its there www.hoseworld.com/5mm-3-16-i-d-marine-fuel-hose-mfh-035.html

The diesel tank pickup install is in the video all be it brief, it was hard to film and do tasks, I need a camera man lol but I felt it didn't need too much detail as it really is straightforward, if you put some grease on the hole drill bit it will make most of the bits stick to the drill bit as you cut, stopping your fuel getting contaminated, obviously you won't get it all but youl get the majority, I also had a friend hold a hoover as I drilled this also sucked up the bits as it cut through, other than that there was no problems and my tank was full of fuel when I did it. Hope this helps.

I've had the heater running for weeks at a end running on high and low non stop on trips and at first I was concerned for what it may be using but when I first filled up from a week away I noticed no real difference in what I put in for the same trip before without a heater so now I don't really worry about the fuel it uses as its minimal.

@@barnsleyboater all good info, thanks again.

No problem thank you :)

It really is easy lol if fiddly, the canopy I made I know isn't perfect and could have been tighter to get it crease free but no one knows till you tell them so it carnt be that bad 🤣🤣🤣 and 250 quid and a bank Holiday wknd of my time is not 4 grand 😉 🤣🤣

These are a copy of the eberspacher d4 heaters so if you Google the eberspacher d4 marine instalation manual it should tell you as I think it covers sea boats too if I remember right I think its out the back, going out the roof would be too high for it to push out the fumes and would cause back pressure, but I'm not 100% sure on that, but that eberspacher marine install manual should cover it, thats what I followed for this instalation with adjustments for the uk laws, hope that helps.

@@barnsleyboater thank you mate I’ll look this stuff up tomorrow morning thank you 🙏. Just mine definitely can’t go out the side what sort of boat have you got mines a sail boat ⛵️I’m in Isle of Man 🇮🇲 so same sort of laws to be fair

I've a princess 32 it's a coastal cruiser but closest to sea I get is the humber lol im on the inland waterways, the exhaust has a swan neck on it so that no water can enter it from the outside and it has a condenser drain fitted at the lowest point for any condensation to escape, but I dont know how effective the swan neck would be if the hull fitting is submerged 🤔 ive another video showing the full install of this with all the extra parts you need for a boat install, but defo have a look at the eberspacher manual too.

This is the marine install manual www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.butlertechnik.com/downloads/Eberspacher_heater_Marine_Installation_Guide_Airtronic_D2_D4_%26_D5.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjT1qn699jvAhWDh_0HHVkaCWoQFjAAegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw1MXQPyJgc-UDYWQAOSAebL

My exhaust is in the stern. It melts fenders so watch where your dingy is as well.

It comes in the kit with the heater, the silicon coasters I used to attach the rubber mount to the bulk head I got off ebay for about £3.

My exhaust fitting had a 35mm bit that went through the hull so I used a 38mm hole saw then filled the gap with heat proof silicon just for extra protection but it was overkill as it doesn't even get warm lol www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232318806923

Thanks for that much appreciated

Yes, when its fitted before you start it, fill a large cup full of water then lift the cup over the coil to the top of the pipe then lower the cup the water will be trapped in the loop and stop and fumes coming out, dont do what I did haha I started the heater the smoke shot out the pipe like a steam kettle I then lifted the cup of water over it and it stopped but it set all my alarms off haha so dont do that.

where did you get the exhaust drain elbow

Not a problem glad it helped you :)

I do apologise even English people have trouble understanding my accent 🙃 😄 I'm glad it helped a little :) 😃