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Where does it say you only get one shot? "An Asrai longbow with Arcane Bodkins has an AP of-2." and the Bow of Loren is an Asrai Longbow that gives you more shots.

@@DwellerfromtheNorth01 its on force of fantasy FAQ🤦🏻

@@tizianomerello6530 Well spotted! Totally missed that, thank you. :)

@@DwellerfromtheNorth01 I think it’s the worst faq ever.. 40 points for only 1 shot with -2 … classic stupid GW FAQ😅

Yeah, always a risk for sure! Me too, it has been very strong indeed, fixing the batreps from the tournament I was on atm, the list performed really well there!

Soon! Real life took over the last months, but getting some time to get back to it within a few weeks :)

It was. That Chaos player went hard on the Wood Elf player.

WoW awesome combo. Lord with great weapon?

@@lCampde WoC Dragonlord could have been kitted out similarly with the MoN, Bedazzling Helm and Crown of Conquest, which is as far as I see the best way to kit it out (with enchanting aura)

I don't think you can issue a Challenge when it's just two Characters fighting each other outside a unit, can you? Annoyance of Netlings only comes into play during a Challenge. Bedazzling Helm can only be taken by Infantry and Cavalry, not on a dragon right?

@@consistentlystupid4726 the helmet was changed in the 1.1 faq/errata. It was possible prior

@@steffennilsen2132 Oooh you're right. It completely slipped my mind that the helmet only being Infantry and Cavalry was an Errata

Ah yes. Warriors of Chaos should just...not be allowed to have units I guess? Warriors of Chaos certainly seem strong when the person doing the battle report completely bungles their deployment and movement, has his Glade Lord kitted out much more ineffectively than the Chaos Lord, and has in my opinion a pretty substandard list. Warriors of Chaos are not "winning easily by just pushing things forward". The Warriors of Chaos won easily because the Wood Elves took nothing that were going to be meaningful against ANY hard hitting army. He has no Anvil unit. 5 Wardancers and 2 Treekin are not going to cut it even against weak infantry like Empire Spearmen let alone anyone with a little more bite.

Totally agree, we couldn't find anything in the book, and more or less winged it with my dragon stomping the unit and his sphinx could hit me. But the talk around here amongst TOs is to play it like before, a challenge lasts for that combat round, feels like that is the intention, otherwise the dragons are even more powerful if you can't challenge them away

Hahaha

Thank you!

That is one of the ways for sure! I supposed he whiffed a bit aswell? Really going to go into lists without a dragon in the future, at least for friendly games

what he did was casting "Arcane Urgency", shouldn't that work? it's not a reserve move, just move again

Thank you! I certainly have, gonna try them the next game I play. The damage on paper is amazing, my worry with them is the frenzy... the fact that you HAVE to charge makes them a bit hard to manage and you need to put resources in babysitting them. But yes, I will try them for sure :)

Hi, good for you! The game is fun and Wood Elves can certainly hold their own. I'm far from having tried everything, but most entries can be used. If you are new I still recommend that you start out with what you like, then continue to build it from there, the best experience is to play what you like and make it work :)

@@DwellerfromtheNorth01 thx for the reply. I was just worried that it will be hard making WE work, because ranged attacks seemed not so great in this Edition and elves die quite fast 😁

Settle down everyone is learning. do not be rude. I am glad people are trying.

Funny thing is that you are wrong with this one. Dragons are Behemoths, which have Lumbering, which says "a Lumbering model is considered to be, and follows all of the rules for, close order formation, even when included in your army as a single model". This overrides the need to be 2 models to be in close order formation. Then combat order just tells you that you need to be wider than deep or square. A single model 1x1 would be square and thus counts as combat order and get +1 CR. Now please go and read the book yourself before teaching other people on the internet xD

Indeed what dfn said, they do get the +1 ;)

100% INCORRECT. A unit arrayed in serried ranks is said to be in a 'Close Order' formation. A unit in Close Order consists of two or more models that are arranged in base contact with each other, edge-to-edge and front corner to front corner, as shown in Fig 100.1.

You need to jump around some as the rules are in several places.

Since I played against a good friend I'm certain it was unintentional, will pass it on though since we both are on a quest to master the game! Yes, I have NEVER had a boring games against orcs, neither in fantasy or 40k :)

I didn't! I actually just read the rule when I got home at 3 in the morning afterwards :( But I'll certainly try to remember it, think it actually locks up a lot of gameplay with single characters and another thing to get used to. I think that, if you master it, it can excell your use of single characters and make them very potent!

Didn't mention it because I don't fully know which units had it, but at least one of the units failed the impetious test they had and had to charge, think even both cavalry units did. Besides that both of us where still only a couple of games in to TOW, and educational focus as it is in this stage, he wanted to get a feel of what it takes to take down a dragon outside of math hammer (hence the squighoppers once he was forced to commit)

to early to say, but the feeling is yes, almost everyone I played T9A with moved over to TOW. Still a little group of hardcores that play T9A though, but a lot of people jumped on the hypetrain for TOW so it already feels bigger than T9A ever was

@@DwellerfromtheNorth01 same in the UK, it's a little sad but I could kind of see the writing on the wall with T9A a few years ago, it was just running out of steam and enthusiasm, and releases were progressing too slowly. On the plus side I think it achieved it's main purpose really which was to make a game that would keep the community together as much as possible.

@@oitoitoi1 Totally agree, T9A had it's role and certainly a lot of bright points, but in my personal (and those I play with) opinion, they sacrificed too much in the pursuit of balance and streamlining. The core book is absolutley solid, but the army books missed the mark too much and the game feel quite soulless and I grew tired of it in a way I never did with old fantasy

​@@DwellerfromtheNorth01 Totally agree, that's what happened with me too, I really tried with it, and think while they got a lot right (the magic system especially was very good I thought, better than TOW tbh), it really started feeling a bit sterile. I went back to playing 6th edition and tbh even though it's not really balanced at all, I still had a lot of fun with it. That said the book of giants they released where every faction got a giant was absolute gold :D

@@oitoitoi1 haha, yeah, liked the giants aswell, gave some much needed flavour!

Thank you! We are actually discussing even to raise it to 2500 :) but as it seems the tournament scene will play 2k, so I just play that to get used to it. Yeah, thought about removing the dragon, going to try a list without it for sure, everything is still in a very early testing stage, but I have a few games coming up and figure I should be able to at least make a half decent list after that :)

You are right, chaffbirds are the best! And yes, the target saturation sucked this game, so rusty I even lost the basics haha. Thank you! Will for certain continue on and press out as much as I can :)

I would say dragon, but yes, they are still good, especially if you play them better then I did!

@@DwellerfromtheNorth01 getting to pick the spell you want on them seems a bit nuts, as a Welf I love it!

WE are quite broken in general.

@@SkinkChief It is indeed! Played them again and you are so right, it's really powerful. Combine that with that you don't shove your expensive level 4 in them so they just can run around offensively and spit out shooting and magic missiles and they become REALLY powerfull!

@@mireadur I wouldn't say broken, but they are strong for sure in the hands of a good general. One mistake still cost you a lot with exception of the dragon wich is insanely powerfull, but still not the best in the game

totally agree, the unit I charged was Yeomens, so chaff, so thought I would manage that, but with no re-rolls or +1 to hit (as in 8th and t9a) it's way more flimsy

I don't disagree, still to stuck in the old "take care of your glassdragon" as it has been before. The maneuverability will be used better when I get a better feel for it, still some mental blocking when you can't march and shoot etc. and it's still confusing not to think about things like steadfast on bigger units. I'd rather evolve and learn a new playstyle then choosing a book which suits my current arsenal to get comfortable :)

Probably, and for sure I need to play them better! :) Still in a trying stage where I just want to try everything and get a feel for it

Indeed, I think GW has been a bit over cautious with the release so far, hope they will scale up everything and just pump out stuff!

yeah, a bit rusty on the names as well xD will correct it to the next time :)