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These guys eat archers and artillery for breakfast

So on the lore side, Ogres actually find Gnoblars to taste terrible which is why they prefer to have them as “servants” than livestock and snacks. Though they are used as emergency rations if the ogres are starving with nothing else to eat, at that point they are willing to power through the terrible taste just to survive, so Gnoblars do their best they can to keep there masters feed by finding them whatever food they can to not end up as the emergency rations.

Fur missile launched. It was stupid effective.

Just one word - Rampage

I was Suprised of how effective they are taking down pesky artillery and helicopter dwarves spam. I think they're un sung heroes.

These things are pretty good, yes, but they have a weakness worth considering. Yes, they're large, so they avoid anti-infantry, but other faction's doggos being smaller is actually an advantage. I find I tend to use spears or whatnot to defend my backline against cavalry. Against regular doggos, this is actually sub optimal. These are going to take more damage against those backline protectors than regular doggos would (so if fighting them, it is good to keep this in mind). You definitely want to keep them away from anti-large cavalry too (Ogres hate Bretonnia, eh?). Point is, Ogres only have large fast units. I suppose they're just mostly large in general, of course. It's an interesting situation. After all, if you're building an army to kill Ogres... anti-large is the name of the game. Just as much of it as you can, and even against some of their smaller seeming units, it works well. I mean, Gnoblars are okay, but they're also not a huge threat against even most anti-large units.

These are really good with Stalk, since they are so darn fast you can sneak them to rear easily, munching down on enemy artillery and range units. Combine with Ogres own artillery being very good but shorter range, it means you can have firepower superiority.

I just remember having a 6 squads of these that went insta berserk and thats all.

Damn, was actually hoping for a maneater pistol

if I find or load a saved lord with unbreakable gnoblars once I hit t3 camps I love to make half gnoblar trapper half leadbelchers armys. Leadbelchers are probably my favorite gun unit because even if the frontline dies or routs you can just use them like a skirmish unit and run around kiting and firing.plus when the front line holds well enough you can just move them to the sides to fire down along a unit and it simply murders.

Heyho! Good video as always. You got some good points! So, i think this is a tricky one. Better stats than ironguts but less armor. In my experience the only time i start using them is when i get the ironfist variant, because of their slightly higher armor and defence. Plus the 10 armor in the tech tree. That makes them a bit less squishy. Before that i always stay with ironguts because they are made for tanking enemys in the face. xD But they can do definetly more damage than the ironguts. Sometimes i take ironguts to attack the front and use the maneaters to attack the sides. Thats a good way to go. But you can do the same with gorgers. I think they are a Solid option with some up and downsides. They will definetly get some love in the next dlc. And i am hyped for that! The only thing i do not use that often is the great weapon variant. Because in my experience crushers with GW, and they are both t5, will do the same job against large cav and monsters, but even better. And that with higher surviveability. More HP per model, more damage, a lot more armor, charge bonus, speed and 30 bonus vs large. They punch everything large so hard that it dosent stay long. The only thing they are missing is ogre charge because they are cav. But for that you got your ironguts or ironfist maneaters. For fighting large there is nothing better than 2 units of crushers with GW. And if there is no large enemy? Then i use them to flank my enemy and attack the backline. With their really high mass they throw every enemy unit around like they wanted to play football. Keep up the good work!

The fact that their missiles are classified as artillery shouldn't be underestimated either as shields don't protect against artillery fire, so a silver shield, for example, isn't going to do squat against them. EDIT: It also means they apply the "shot by artillery" leadership debuff, which is nice.

These assholes are too good now - they have amazing morale, amazing armour and they can tank incoming fire - if you see them on the field, kiss your arty good bye

So most of them are good for AP and such, but aren't really super required until you get to the Greatweapon variant... and the Ogres do have other anti-large options too. I dunno. I guess if you have the money they're fine, and basically a straight upgrade to the earlier troops (fewer entities though, I believe).

The main thing I'll bring up here is that there is a fun visual mod that varies up the maneaters' looks. Lore says they should be going all over the world, not just pirateland.

I just don't understand the decision to give mid-tier unit 100 armor and 40 armor to an elite unit. But I guess its not going to change, no matter how much I complain. Since its unlikely that CA would revamp the whole game, I would ask them to give Maneaters base 60 armor to make them a little bit more sturdy. This plus their different variants and improved MA and MD would justify an elite status

Why though? Ogre monstrous cav serves the same anti-large role and it much faster unit with higher charge bonus & weapon damage..

I love the great weapon variant, but it just doesn’t hold up to the maneuverability and bone-shattering punch that Crushers bring to the table. Nowadays I use them to protect my gnoblars, leadbelchers, and artillery from cavalry charges, but from an offensive point of view they’re just too squishy and slow. Hopefully Golgfag brings some much-needed support to Maneaters as a whole, like maybe a Bruiser hero that can buff armor and missile resistance.

Hate these big bois!

Hey love your videos. If I had to leave a survey, itd be 9/10 as my only complaint would be the first few seconds on the intro. I like the little *ding* sound at the start it's solid. But the volume of your voice is always WAY louder right after like a koolaid man/toad dragon going "OH YEAH" and then I turn the volume down xD it's not really a big deal at all but it's something I noticed thought I'd point it out. Maybe it's the mic quality or my old ass phone speakers idk. But yeah love the vids I watch every one <3

I find maneaters to be a bit underwhelming, unbreakable gnoblar trapper frontline with leadbelchers firing over them can just annihilate nearly any enemy formation. Add in some greatweapon cav to protect the flanks and you get a much more economically viable army that hits way harder and sustains less (actually important) casualties. Also the trappers being hidden until they get close means that they will sustain very little casualties from enemy ranged until the lines actually clash. (The big name "Gnoblarkicker" makes the gnoblars unbreakable)

Love these big bois!

Don't forget the title tyrants can get for gnoblars. Giving all gnoblar units unbreakable! You can easily make a doomstack of gnoblar trappers that are totally unbreakable and rain all the sharp pointy sticks

Important question- when the Master Engineer is mounted in his Steam Tank, does he still fire his grenade launcher when the tank is in melee?

What's with the late 70s naughty video music? I got concerned I had the wrong video running, so I-I mean, what video?

Im curious if Gundermans surefires are better than Ironsides for Franz?

Franz is the best Lord to use Mixed armies with since Elector Count Troops gives you so much flexibility.

Leadbelchers have always been one of the staple for an ogre kingdom army roster.

What's with the dnd character sheet ass stat line I kinda like it but it's weird to see

I love these guys as they are the Ogre’s best answer to elite anti-large infantry. I’ve had a single unit wipe out 2-3 units of Stormvermin and Black Guard of Naggarond without breaking a sweat. Just protect them with a bunch of gnoblars and they can hard carry most early-mid game battles. You’re spot on that they struggle hard against anything big enough to resist getting knocked down. Definitely a lesson I had to learn the hard way against Rakarth. Best to use either a hunter on a stonehorn or a Tyrant lord to deal with them effectively, though ogre pistols work well enough if you have some gnoblars to distract with.

They are a walking artillery- literally. Nice AP damage, great penetration, excellent against tightly packed enemies- including other ranged units. They should also be good against SEMs, especially slow moving ones.

A loooong time ago when my friends and I played Warhammer tabletop, a new edition released and the Ogre Kingdoms were the big new army on the roster. Leadbelchers were the first unit that made all of us go "What. The. F---." They actually had a fairly short range but had an ABSURD damage potential - much like shotguns. Even the lore described them loading their cannons with whatever scrap they had on hand - swords, knives, bits of armor and shields, etc. TWW3 made some interesting changes to their role on the field, and honestly it's not bad. They're probably one of the more cost effective units in the game. As long as you keep them out of melee, they'll pay for themselves quickly.

It will always be funny to me how the leadbelachers literally carry cannons and they are somehow not artillery when they are practically empire cannons without the anti-large. And that's not even the biggest cannons they can field. Also, PS could you also do the saber tusk pack next as I think they are a very slept on ogre kingdoms unit.

Leadblechers are definitely a highlight of the Ogre Roster. But: WHY CAN"T THEY ATTACK WALLS! They are literally holding a CANNON!

Missile Resistance 0 is always so disappointing to see on these, when the Sea Dragon Cloak providing ranged resistance was part of their table top kit.

War wagons are something I throw into armies that have like a spot or two left and I have no other unite that would gel with the rest of the formation

Its basically a highly mobile Organ Gun with decent melee potential when out of ammo. Very good unit!

They're one of the actually interesting/fun parts of the Ogre Roster. The "Pistol" Maneaters are more for single entities is my expectation (and what I remember).

The bread and butter weapon for ogre kingdoms. Simply put, this is a unit that over preforms, and is what I consider as part of the ogre kingdoms gunpowder army. You need gnolar trappers, and leadbelchers, primarily. Tyrant distracts enemies in the front. Leadbelchers can shoot over the heads of gnoblars without line of sight issues, thus allowing you to shoot in melee with no issue. Armor peircing missles that pierce targets allows some great damage. 220 range at rank 7 means that they don't get outranged by much in this game. Boomaker big name on tyrants buffs their damage by 20%. A hunter on stonehorn to help suppourt your forces and hold the flanks, and you have yourself a very competent stack. If that hunter has gnoblar kicker to make your gnoblar chaff unbreakable? I would argue that it is one of the cheapest and most effective ogre mid to late game armies you can field. I fully disagree that they have such weaknessess described. If you use them like a traditional gunpowder unit, maybe, but since they can shoot over gnoblars heads, you can get some truly amazing volumes of fire from a safe box formation. AI can't even punish with magic thanks to ogres low model count.

Was there an ogre update is that why you have been making these kind of videos?

Always find it weird how these "ogre elite guards" are for whatever reason...weaker and less elite than a bunch of rag tag mercenaries (Maneaters)

So, it shows I'm still unfamiliar with the faction! I was in error about the Rank 7 red line skills, Gnoblar Trappers benefit from Continuous Volley, granting speed/ range/ and sweet reload time reduction.

I heard the announcement 👀 of upcoming orge updates your videos are in good timing 😁 Btw i discover that i haven't got all units and realize there are some units that requires me to go to CA website just to download them and give them in-game, which i'm talking about chaos slaanesh mirror guard 🪞, i'm just wondering have you made a video about them? And if not are you planning to make one? Thank you in advance you're amazing total war warhammer youtuber ❤ 🙂

Absolutely love this series, really good content

First proper holding infantry that Ogres get. I am surprised that their mid-level infantry is armored and their elite infantry isn't. They are a major upgrade over the Bulls, and can certainly be used for flanking and sustained fighting, making them very versatile. Their armor actually allows them to defeat non-AP spears, since they will mitigate most of their bonus damage, something that even Maneaters cannot do.