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Thanks :D I kind of skipped around in his new video, I see he's going on about ohms law. The other day I checked the voltage on my car's battery. It was 12.3 volts. Assuming an internal resistance of 0.01 ohms, we can use ohms law to calculate that the battery was delivering 1230 amps to my volt meter. Which is funny because my volt meter has a 10megohm/volt input impedance, so I would like to know how many volts it takes to push 1230 amps through my volt meter! (Read parody here.)

hehe one of the Aetherboys was telling me that vacuum didn't have buoyancy like hydrogen does.

Indeed!

And that mass has weight. So there is no need for a flat earth, or a sealed container.

Exactly! I was basically measuring the column weight of the air within the pot!

@@fromjesse Columns can't be conceptual bro 🤪

Didn't need one :D

Perhaps if I use 60 NM per degree at the Equator: radius = 60 NM x 360 / (2 x Pi) = 3438 NM. Radius at latitude 48.1 = 3438 NM x (90 - 48.1) / 90 = 1600.58 NM. 1 arc minute around the line of latitude is 1600.58 NM x 2 x Pi / (360 x 60) = 0.4656 NM or 862 meters. Nope still way out.

Indeed! It sure matches a globe closer than it does a flat surface, doesn't it!

@@JesseKozlowski That's not why you'd measure a difference, even on a perfect sphere one minute of longitude will be shorter than one minute of latitude everywhere except on the equator

@@giovanirubim2758 , oh duh but of course!!! Duh. You are absolutely correct. I would have appeared to be more on the ball if I said something smarter such as, naturally the distances between lines of Longitude will be shorter than between lines of latitude, but, you should also be able to detect that the shape is not a perfect circular ball, rather a slightly squashed at the poles ellipsoid shape. There, how's that? Thanks for correcting me :-)

Check the description! It's already been done in Australia at around 34 degrees South! And we got a guy working to do it also at 26 degrees South as well!

Yes, the physical surface distance between lines of longitude is greatest at the equator, and less the farther you get from the equator -- converging both going southward and going northward of the equator.

Yes that’s how spheres work!

I agree, the total station Electronic Distance Measurement is most likely the most accurate of the methods I used. The GPS is just a consumer grade GPS and is likely to have a meter of error and finding exact sub-meter accurate spots on google earth is tricky. And yeah the trundle wheel bounces along and isn't perfectly exact. But it's also strictly physical, so that's why it's important for those people who don't understand how a laser range finder works. I'm not sure what you mean when you mention seeing a radius animated. Do you understand that lines of longitude are fixed physical locations on earth? And that we can measure the distance between them using purely physical methods?

@@fromjesselongitude is a concept, dude. All you have is a physical area upon which to overlay this concept. It’s not reality. Your E/W longitude am bs isn’t reality; it’s just a concept.

@@theplanetruth Would you be willing to discuss this with me on your show or on Jeran's show if he's willing?

Do you believe that lines of longitude are straight? Do you believe that lines of longitude are evenly spaced? Please answer yes or no to each, then I can answer the rest of your question.

The fact that meridians converge at two poles both North and South of the equator means that you can travel South or North along any meridian and, without turning left or right, end up on the opposite meridian, and you'll eventually end up all the way back to where your started.

Oh right, why should measurements of the size of the Earth have anything to do with the shape and size of the Earth... 😂

​​@@fromjesse depends what you use to read the longitude: a flat map viewed from above the North Pole 🗺️ or a curved Globe 🌍. That's exactly what I was pointing out, but you seem not to get it.

​@@fromjesse longitude and latitude is just reference points to the celestial body. Meridian is set to 0° based to Greenwich, England - while Equator is probably set to Polaris 0° at horizon.

Thanks! After hearing my speech, what would you say is the one thing I should work on to be more clear and easier to listen to? Slow down? Enunciate more clearly? More/less inflection? Etc? Thanks!

@@fromjesse I think you speak really well, you're very easy to understand, clear, precise, nice pace. All I think about this video, for future ones, is maybe give a quick easy-to-follow explanation for some things that are taken as granted knowldege, eg what a minute of longitude is for laypeople.

@@HarryKey Good idea! Thanks!

Thank you thank you and thank you! And thank you for your excellent measurement and video in Australia! czcams.com/video/-g-437wi9Ds/video.html

If I can get hold of a trundler, I'll trundle at 38°13'44.67"S, 144° 6'33.35"E.

@@billybowden7079 Woah that is a great E-W line, but it looks like a railroad track -- is there a smooth surface to roll the trundle on? Or would you have to modify the wheel to go on a train track? Also, watch out for trains!

@@fromjesse Ha! I didn't check the terrain, just saw the line on Google Maps. If that's the train tracks to Warrnambool, I don't think I want to mess with the freight trains on that line! I'll scope it out this week.

As I said, in the video, a flat earther had told me that if I took any boat on any ball and sailed it over the curve, it would vanish mast first. So I tested his claim. What's wrong with that?

@@MaxWithoutPain i wouldn't call it massive. 5 mile horizon is about what we expect for a 15.5ft observer height, no?at least roughly ?

@@fromjesse 5 miles to that horizon sure, what about the drop ⤵️ over the horizon? Why does it dip so much for that short of a distance? Why do object that dip "over" the horizon remain leveled with the eye level or the horizontal line?

@@MaxWithoutPain I'm not sure what you're talking about. The dip looks to me like just about what we'd expect on a globe earth. You can go on google maps and find the distance to the land beyond the island. Its not super close to the observer.

@@fromjesse I'm trying to figure out what the horizon is, as in a visual artistic perspective. I have doubts that it is because of a curve. If objects curved they wouldn't stay to the original level, because according to "gravity" objects that go over a curve supposed to level with the curve - they don't.

@@MaxWithoutPain The horizon is defined as the limiting circle of the surface beyond which you cannot see the surface. Technically it is the intersection of the path of light and the surface of the water. A horizon REQUIRES that at least either the light or the surface be non flat or not straight, because it requires that one of them intersects the other at a point and then diverge again. It could be curving light on a flat surface, straight light and a curving surface, or a combination of a curving surface and curving light that intersect at a point. Two straight parallel lines cannot touch at just one point in the middle. One of them must curve. Laws of geometry says that. Flat earth has no explanation for horizons.

@@rajbhai-tp7cf its an artificial solar eclipse made with a flashlight and a small plastic jar

​@@fromjesse The video title says lunar eclipse

@@rajbhai-tp7cf HA! Thanks! Fixed it. You're right.

how much _what?_ That spool holds 6km of "100lb test PE braided fishing line" or 1000ft of 440 Paracord. I have about very roughly $200-$300 USD invested for parts and probably 10-20 hours in designing and building it. I will build you one for $1500 USD plus shipping. Or you can just find all those parts on ebay and build it yourself for a lot less LOL. The shafts are 10mm "stainless" shafts. The chain is O4C stainless roller chain, and the sprockets are of course same pitch and fit 10mm shafts. The bearings are called 10mm pillow block bearings. The motor I salvaged from a worn out 12v air pump. I did custom machine some parts so you'd need to do that or have a machinist help you out.

I'm working on it, but had to move mid project and haven't finished.... czcams.com/video/YmhXZQnd4n4/video.html The gyro has an awfully small flywheel, I don't know how successful it's going to be.

Probably not: Water has a very high absorption and emissivity at the wavelengths involved, and so they absorb the energy and just re-radiate it as heat. However I will definitely try it out when I get a chance and some clouds!

I did 😀 czcams.com/video/5U2BvH4k8GQ/video.html I used same setup but in the moonlight, and no thermal latent shadow or hot spot was created.

Hey brother, good to hear from you! I haven't seen you around in a while, I hope you're doing well!

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You and me both! I did get the strap on keel welded up but haven't had a chance to put in the tiedown holes yet. The reason I'm winding paracord is I need 1000ft of paracord as a leader to be on the end of the 6km of buoyant line in order to have something to run through the windlass as I tension it.

I know.. I know... So far I haven't figured out how to get the thermal imager app to record sound while recording video... This was just a quick test I threw up for you guys :D I didn't have time to dub in a sound track.

I'm using this, but if you have iphone you have to get the iphone version. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C23Z42KX

@@fromjesse Take those radiometric temperature numbers with a grain of salt wrt accuracy.....relative measures ok. Moon is white hot when I images with my 640 X LWIR.

@@pablosdog2808 Yeah, normally this thermal imager does the shutter-frame calibration every few seconds and is spot on.. But for some reason that night it was NOT doing the repeating dark frame calibration except once at startup, and so the temperature readings were going way off after a few minutes. I still need to figure out what's going on with that. However I did do some tests, and it was showing the difference in colors for temperature differences as small as about 0.2 degrees, so if there had been a cold moonlight effect I still should have seen it!

@@pablosdog2808 By the way, it would be great if you could do some videos showing your results of moon and moon light through your thermal imager and put them to youtube! The "Cold Moonlight" people are telling me that I'm the only one who has ever failed to measure moonlight to be cold...! We need more real world data!

@@fromjesse aka Flat Field Correction FFC. Try changing the temp of the camera a bit...some FFC every like ~.5 C delta or every 5 minute (on that order). I've played with many set-ups...IR radiometric cameras and t couples...and don't see the cold moon light...yet. Ken Wheeler did...with a FLIR One.

And PS Travis, watch out for guys with trundle wheels! I'm hoping more people will help in this experiment!

I wonder why he doesn't show up, he must be on holiday for the aether band tour.

That's great! Thank you!

Fortunately it measures as spheroidal and rotating :D

The top rubber knob slides of and does have to come of. As an update, the top end of the rubber boot has cracked where it was stretched over the rod. Its not perfectly water proof now but still better than it was. I think the uv got to it.

This experiment would be easier for you than it was for me! You have to push the wheel less distance!

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Backstory is that as more people do this it debunks flat earth because obviously on a flat earth, the length of an arcminute of longitude will simply increase linearly with distance from the center. However, on a globe -- And in Reality -- the length of a longitudal arcminute gets longest at the equator, then starts getting smaller as you progress southward beyond the equator. So this is basically checkmate against flat earth because anybody anywhere can use simple tools to measure the length of a minute of longitude at their location, and this shows that the surface is not flat. I am hoping more people all around the globe will do this experiment and publish their results!

@@fromjesse Gotcha, nice work as always. I figured that was the main idea but just thought maybe it also was in response to some recent specific bit of derp. I wouldn't use the word faith but it really is something how they don't at least "trust" science & the thousands of experts who got us where we are since the dawn of BIG thinking. & not only that but, to actually proclaim they know WAY better while simultaneously providing literally nothing except nuh uh is what makes this whole FE phenomenon sad, absurd, aggravating & funny AF, all in one. Anyway, it's like a catch 22, on one hand the best thing we could do is just ignore them but on the other, there clearly ought to be at least 100 debunks for every single one of their silly public proclamations. Which is why I learn towards supporting any such informative/educational content, it's about the only silver bullet IMO.

@@fromjesse Since the flerfs love Google Earth they could easily find East/West runways all around the world and test this for themselves with very little effort and zero expense. They won't even do that so don't hold your breath waiting for them to do a real experiment like you have. Great video!!!

@@sendintheclowns7305 Yup, I think it was either wolfie or wally who had already done just that several years ago now.

@@realcygnus I think it was Wally who did it with runways and others have done it using roads and even entire countries. CHL did something similar using Australia vs the USA if I recall correctly. Flerfs will of course avoid any such experiment like the plague.

Yeah, Dr. Lewin loves to put on a great magic show, and doesn't appreciate it when people point out his sleight of hand. He called me a "Flat Earther" for daring to question him about his claims regarding KVL! haha!

@@fromjesse just my naive (practical) interpretation noticed it was coupled inductors , a transformer. he maintained it was the E field which of course would be feeble at this freq and disregarded the well known rf principle of near field coupleing being inductively reactive at less than wavelength

Thank yo for checking it out!

That pretty much sums it up most of the time, but now and again I do have an interesting discussion!

LOOOOL. I love how people, like you, who know nothing and have never done anything in their life come along and dis on people who actually do stuff! But no, the toy gyro was brand new at the time and had not been dropped yet (LOL) and was very well balanced and just running very quietly. I had spun it up with it's little motor and it was working as good as it could. If you don't think so, get one and try it yourself!! If you really think that stainless on stainless pressure ball pivots have zero drag then you are just wrong. Go try it yourself before call stuff misinformation! You're the one spreading misinformation!

@@fromjesse I believed that because didn't see a 1:47 a micro cut (clock behind 6:23 -> 6:25) and then gyro was stoped. Where can I buy a real gyro in belgium please ?

@@bArraxas said: > _I believed that because didn't see a __1:47__ a micro cut (clock behind __6:23__ -> __6:25__) and then gyro was stoped._ Correct. Up to 6;23 on the stove clock the gyro was spinning. I was demonstrating the gyro effect. Then I paused the camera and stopped the gyro, then started the camera at 6;25 on the stove clock in order to show the bearing friction without the gyro spinning. Sorry if that confused you. > _Where can I buy a real gyro in belgium please ?_ How much money do you have to spend on it?

@@fromjesse 250 euros is it enough ?

@@bArraxas I'm afraid the best you could get for that is a "Heading Indicator" which is the type of aircraft gyroscope shown in this video: czcams.com/video/xNYW8JWMVOY/video.html They are not as perfect as is ideal, but if you are careful like I show in the link I just gave you, you can objectively test and see the 15 degrees per hour. But you have to be very careful and it is tedious. But it can be done.

Watch this carefully a couple times. Once you understand how they work, you'll understand how they track without losing angle: czcams.com/video/EM051IXJD9Q/video.html