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Wade Allen
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I'm Wade. I make videos about whatever I'm interested in. Things like philosophy (mostly metaphysics and ethics), D&D and Planescape, video games, books, board games, and self improvement. I also make podcast episodes every now and then.
Have a good day.
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Guide to the Abyss | D&D Planescape
The most comprehensive video on the Abyss in existence.
In the Planescape campaign setting for D&D, there are 17 outer planes, which are essentially the realms of D&D’s afterlife. There’s one plane for each moral alignment, ranging from chaotic good to lawful evil to true neutral. I’ve already covered the planes of lawful evil and lawful good in depth. In this video I’ll be telling you everything you need to know about the plane of chaotic evil: the Abyss.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:41 Chaos and Evil
6:17 An Overview of the Abyss
8:31 Demons
29:25 The Abyssal Lords
33:48 Obyriths and Tharizdun
39:16 Magic in the Abyss
42:09 How to Get There
45:21 Plague-Mort
49:53 The Plain of Infinite Portals
59:23 Layers 2-3
1:00:43 The Grand Abyss
1:06:11 Layers 5-21
1:10:34 The Iron Wastes (Kotschtchie)
1:12:59 Layers 27-32
1:15:22 Azzagrat (Graz’zt)
1:22:26 Layers 48-68
1:24:13 The Demonweb Pits (Lolth)
1:29:50 Layers 70-81
1:37:15 Abysm (Demogorgon)
1:43:19 Layers 92-112
1:46:25 Thanatos (Orcus)
1:50:57 Layers 114-148
1:52:22 Hollow’s Heart (Fraz-Urb’luu)
1:55:29 Layers 177-193
1:56:41 Shedaklah (Zuggtmoy & Juiblex)
1:58:48 Layers 223-421
2:10:42 Yeenoghu’s Realm (Yeenoghu)
2:13:29 Layers 423-452
2:14:54 Androlynne (Pale Night)
2:17:48 Layers 480-566
2:27:45 Shendilavri (Malcanthet)
2:31:16 Laters 586-597
2:32:22 The Endless Maze (Baphomet)
2:35:26 Layers 601+
2:42:51 End
Sources:
D&D Volume 1: Men and Magic (1974)
D&D Basic Rules Set (1977)
D&D: Basic Rulebook 4th Edition (1981)
Tales of the Outer Planes (1988)
AD&D 2e Player’s Handbook (1989)
Dragon 151 (1989)
Dungeon 28 (1991)
Monster Mythology (1992)
Planescape Campaign Setting (1994)
The Planes of Chaos (1994)
Planescape Monstrous Compendium 1 (1994)
Planescape Monstrous Compendium 2 (1995)
Player’s Primer to the Outlands (1995)
On Hallowed Ground (1996)
Hellbound: the Blood War (1996)
The Rod of Seven Parts Boxed Set (1996)
Faces of Evil: The Fiends (1997)
Tales from the Infinite Staircase (1998)
A Paladin in Hell (1998)
Dragon 277 (2000)
Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil (2001)
Manual of the Planes 3rd edition (2001)
D&D 3.5e Player’s Handbook (2003)
Miniatures Handbook (2003)
Player’s Guide to Faerun (2004)
Dungeon 107 (2004)
3.5 Planar Handbook (2004)
Champions of Ruin (2005)
Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss (2006)
Fiendish Codex I, Part 2: The Lost Annals (2006) (web.archive.org/web/20140202140410/www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060620a&page=3)
Dragon 344 (2006)
Dragon 349 (2006)
Dragon 353 (2007)
Dragon 357 (2007)
Dragon 359 (2007)
Dragon 360 (2007)
Dungeon 149 (2007)
3.5 Elder Evils (2007)
3.5 Monster Manual V (2007)
D&D 4th edition Player’s Handbook (2008)
Dragon 376 (2008)
Manual of the Planes 4th edition (2008)
The Plane Below (2009)
Demonomicon (2010)
D&D 5th Edition Player’s Handbook (2014)
Out of the Abyss (2015)
Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes (2018)
Sigil and the Outlands (2023)
The Book of Many Things (2024)
forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Layers_of_the_Abyss
In the Planescape campaign setting for D&D, there are 17 outer planes, which are essentially the realms of D&D’s afterlife. There’s one plane for each moral alignment, ranging from chaotic good to lawful evil to true neutral. I’ve already covered the planes of lawful evil and lawful good in depth. In this video I’ll be telling you everything you need to know about the plane of chaotic evil: the Abyss.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:41 Chaos and Evil
6:17 An Overview of the Abyss
8:31 Demons
29:25 The Abyssal Lords
33:48 Obyriths and Tharizdun
39:16 Magic in the Abyss
42:09 How to Get There
45:21 Plague-Mort
49:53 The Plain of Infinite Portals
59:23 Layers 2-3
1:00:43 The Grand Abyss
1:06:11 Layers 5-21
1:10:34 The Iron Wastes (Kotschtchie)
1:12:59 Layers 27-32
1:15:22 Azzagrat (Graz’zt)
1:22:26 Layers 48-68
1:24:13 The Demonweb Pits (Lolth)
1:29:50 Layers 70-81
1:37:15 Abysm (Demogorgon)
1:43:19 Layers 92-112
1:46:25 Thanatos (Orcus)
1:50:57 Layers 114-148
1:52:22 Hollow’s Heart (Fraz-Urb’luu)
1:55:29 Layers 177-193
1:56:41 Shedaklah (Zuggtmoy & Juiblex)
1:58:48 Layers 223-421
2:10:42 Yeenoghu’s Realm (Yeenoghu)
2:13:29 Layers 423-452
2:14:54 Androlynne (Pale Night)
2:17:48 Layers 480-566
2:27:45 Shendilavri (Malcanthet)
2:31:16 Laters 586-597
2:32:22 The Endless Maze (Baphomet)
2:35:26 Layers 601+
2:42:51 End
Sources:
D&D Volume 1: Men and Magic (1974)
D&D Basic Rules Set (1977)
D&D: Basic Rulebook 4th Edition (1981)
Tales of the Outer Planes (1988)
AD&D 2e Player’s Handbook (1989)
Dragon 151 (1989)
Dungeon 28 (1991)
Monster Mythology (1992)
Planescape Campaign Setting (1994)
The Planes of Chaos (1994)
Planescape Monstrous Compendium 1 (1994)
Planescape Monstrous Compendium 2 (1995)
Player’s Primer to the Outlands (1995)
On Hallowed Ground (1996)
Hellbound: the Blood War (1996)
The Rod of Seven Parts Boxed Set (1996)
Faces of Evil: The Fiends (1997)
Tales from the Infinite Staircase (1998)
A Paladin in Hell (1998)
Dragon 277 (2000)
Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil (2001)
Manual of the Planes 3rd edition (2001)
D&D 3.5e Player’s Handbook (2003)
Miniatures Handbook (2003)
Player’s Guide to Faerun (2004)
Dungeon 107 (2004)
3.5 Planar Handbook (2004)
Champions of Ruin (2005)
Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss (2006)
Fiendish Codex I, Part 2: The Lost Annals (2006) (web.archive.org/web/20140202140410/www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060620a&page=3)
Dragon 344 (2006)
Dragon 349 (2006)
Dragon 353 (2007)
Dragon 357 (2007)
Dragon 359 (2007)
Dragon 360 (2007)
Dungeon 149 (2007)
3.5 Elder Evils (2007)
3.5 Monster Manual V (2007)
D&D 4th edition Player’s Handbook (2008)
Dragon 376 (2008)
Manual of the Planes 4th edition (2008)
The Plane Below (2009)
Demonomicon (2010)
D&D 5th Edition Player’s Handbook (2014)
Out of the Abyss (2015)
Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes (2018)
Sigil and the Outlands (2023)
The Book of Many Things (2024)
forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Layers_of_the_Abyss
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You are my hero. Thanks for all the lore in one super detailed and thorough video. This has been shared to every DM I know.
Thank you for the video, because this is a very good resource for the sects. I've never even heard of the sects' existence before! I don't think that there's anywhere else on the internet that does as good of a job describing them as you did. This is going to a very useful resource if I ever create a Planescape campaign. That being said, there were a few things that irked me about the video on a personal level. I'll keep most of them to myself, mostly because I don't see myself being able to change your mind about the other stuff, but the one issue that I will comment on is about your misnaming of poachers, describing them as people who pay lots of money to hunt exotic animals. That's just incorrectness that I can't stand, blatant misinformation that needs to be corrected. Simply put, if those people were paying money to get in, they wouldn't poachers. The people who pay to hunt animals are called Recreational hunters (At least according to google). I can understand if you don't like them personally, I'm going to judge you on that, but they are not poachers. Instead, they are just as you said: People who pay stupid amounts of money to ahead and hunt animals, either for a physical trophy like a head or taxidermy, or for a photo, which can be posted on the internet sometimes. Not only that, but they aren't necessarily evil. For one, people who have to go through special programs to pay this money usually pay them to governments, who in turn might use them to help its people or pay for conservation efforts. (Governments can be corrupt, but lets assume the best here) Hunters can also help the environment directly. A perfect example of this are the people who hunt the invasive python species plaguing the Everglades. Maybe not the stereotypical image of a recreational hunter, and they may not be officially be recreational hunters (idk if they have to register or not), but those people in the Everglades are doing good, there's no denying that. Poachers on the other hand are 100% evil. Poachers are hunters who illegally bypass government restrictions, often by going into protected reserves, and hunt animals that way. I could see some poachers just wanting to hunt without paying the fees or being bogged down by regulations, but those aren't the majority of them. The majority of poachers, and the ones that make the most trouble, are killing these animals, often on some part of the endangered spectrum, for a resource on them. The most famous of these are the ivory tusks on elephants, and just the tusks, leaving the rest of the animal to rot, while selling the tusks on black markets where shamans can buy them to fuel their pseudoscience. They are evil because they are illegally entering protected land, hunting endangered creatures, often just harvesting a small part of animal and leaving the rest to waste, and often are working directly under criminal elements. That's why they are evil. To be clear, I am not a hunter of any kind myself, nor do I know anybody personally who is. I just wanted to clear up misinformation. If you still think that Recreational hunters are evil, I'm not going to correct you. However, I just wanted to make it clear that they are NOT Poachers, who are definitely evil! To be fair, the Vile Hunt does line up more with Poachers then Recreational Hunters, as they are going against the nature of the plane, so at least there's that. Anyways, again, thank you for the awesome video, even if it had some parts that I had issues with.
The main problem I have with this video is that Meritocracy isn't supposed to be fair it's supposed to be efficient. If the smartest aren't running things then its the stupidest.
That's fine. I've seen a few other people that feel the same, though many people do think meritocracies are fair, or at least supposed to be fair, and this video is largely for them.
In ADnD all Demon Lords/Princes and Arch Devils were lesser gods. I am sure they changed this so that they can be killed by a party. Having a party going around killing gods is a bit much (though we all know that campaign where it happens). In fact in the Bloodstone set of module Orcus is given the power of a greater god because he possesses his "soul artifact" or some such thing. So at one time they were all gods. If I were still running a campaign they would remain gods and be near impossible to slay. Just seems silly to have characters going and killing these beings, to me anyway.
Youre the best dnd content creators ive come across because of your cadence and the way you dont do jump cuts and shit and it feels like youre teaching a class thats actually fascinating man. I watched your video about Sigil and you made it come to life in my mind usual visual aids and your musing on about the alignments but you dont try to force your thoughts down anyones throat you just sort of speculate and allow us to speculate. You do the same thing talented college professors do. Ty for the fascinating lore of a game i have never played in its tabletop form. You earned my sub
Very thorough and well done.
Electricity and the internet are not essential for survival but ...
They aren't. Though I would say there's a difference between those non-essentials and eating animals (or animal products) in that eating animals inescapably involves causing needless harm (unless of course it's lab-grown animal products, which I am in favor of). I'm sure electricity and the internet result in harm, but not necessarily so. Which means that we can conceivably reach a point where we could have electricity and the internet without causing harm to others. I would also be willing to bet that the harm caused per individual to generate electricity and maintain the internet is less than the harm caused per individual from eating animals, but I don't know for sure. Another difference is that the "ask" of cutting out animal products from your diet is much more mild and easy to manage than cutting out electricity, and thus harder to justify not doing.
and people says alignement is an outdated mechanic of D&D :D
Air Bubble as a wizard spell is clutch for traveling to the plane of water or vacuum.
My favorite video of D&D Abyss so far. This was super thorough and helpful to the imagination. Keep up the great work
The Abyss sounds a lot like Reddit!😂
Good vid. Tantalised my brain for a good while aha. The bit at the end was unexpected! Haha. But i have thought similarly, hypothetically of course.
So this is like the Backrooms, another thing for people that like only world building.
Thx, great work!
Then there’s also pure chance, where you happen to be in the right place at the right time, riding a wave of luck and circumstances that favor the specific qualities or skills you possess, ultimately bringing you to a place of good fortune.
Dude go to any dictionary site, type sigil and listen to the word. I swear, how do you get it wrong?
I know how to pronounce the word sigil lol. Sigil the city is not pronounced the same way. Sigil (meaning glyph) has a soft g. Sigil (the city) has a hard g.
@@WadeAllen001 According to what source exactly? Apologies for being rude.
@@saltywater5097 page 4 of Sigil and Beyond in the Planescape Campaign Setting box set from 1994. Plus that's how the developers themselves say it, such as in this recent video at 18 minutes and 30 seconds in: czcams.com/video/P0rXo-Wp_II/video.htmlsi=lr9Gs7CS2w2y-nZG
Just something about those third edition books. Classic.
I too have ventured the planes and I thank you for your encyclopedia of them, I would dedicate an npc named Wade Allen as a guide when my party comes to start traversing the planes. They will say to "what a plain name!" that is for an NPC at least
Here's a cold hard fact: If you could reason with a religious person there wouldn't be any religious people.
1:06:48 This looks AI-generated because wtf is with those hands?
32:28 I mean, I think this could be easily be explained with the Warhammer 40K strategy, where the additions are different in inconsistent because you're seeing it from the perspective of a scholar trying to understand and categorize these things they are trying to study. So it makes sense that these different editions would be different and also simultaneously true, because as time progresses you have Scholars changing their understandings, re-categorizing and re-re-categorizing everything that they know. You see this in real life, just look at Medical knowledge, the way documented and now continue to document history, with new knowledge, along with greater understandings and sensitivities with language is changing to better describe the phenomenon that we study. I mean just look at the DSM V and its predecessors.
AWESOME 1000% points for no ai pictures subscribed
definitely need a vid on the gods/religions (maybe start with Shar, considering bg3 popularity!)
That's a good idea.
@@WadeAllen001 you'd be the guy to do it! your explanations of the outer planes and stuff were the only ones that made it click for me very concise but still super well detailed and researched, well done man
51:08, hey friend, i hate to say it but… that’s AI art
Damn. I've been trying to avoid AI art. I see so much of it while making these videos that usually I can tell. I guess I didn't look at the picture long enough, because now that I am I can see a few weird things about it.
@@WadeAllen001 it’s ok, I figured it was just cause there wasn’t a lot of information on the group in question, I love the videos, great quality overall. If you get the chance to change it that’s great, if not it’s understandable, I’d just make a disclaimer so people know.
28:29 I believe the answer you’re question of why the reason Demons are more beast like is because Demons resides in the in a place where chaotic energy runs uncontrollably. Where Devils resides in the hells where chaotic energy can be placed in order
The Divine Comedy but for the Planescape and you're our Virgil.
The problem with your take is that you fail to understand what meritocracy even is. It means judging people by the outcome, not how they achieved that outcome. The moment you put effort in the definition is the moment you misunderstand the whole concept. Effort does NOT matter in meritocracy, only the results. Yes, the idea that you can accomplish anything if you work hard enough is a lie, but it's a lie that has nothing to do with meritocracy. So you're wrong right on the start.
I accounted for that in the video by saying that if your definition of meritocracy only accounts for ability and not effort or luck, then you can have such a system, but it's not what we currently have. The reason I focused so much on effort in this video is because I was addressing the notion of meritocracy that many people hold (the belief that effort is rewarded, or the belief that skill is rewarded and that skill is largely a result of effort), not the notion that you specifically hold, or the technical definition. After all, why target a technical definition that isn't widely used? Interestingly, looking up the definition of meritocracy right now provides a different result than it did when I made this video (as you can see in the screenshot of the definition I included in the video). Obviously definitions do change over time, but I don't think there's any question that effort has commonly been a part of the definition of meritocracy, and is present in many people's minds when they think about it.
Why do I have the feeling the FFX creators were inspired by the Thunder Plane? 😑
youre like the perfectly rolled content creating character with the one fatal weakness of being terrified of internet spiders lol, we will keep this in mind when we invade your plane.
heresy is not the same as apostasy. To be a heretic, you must be a christian which dogma's deviated from the Church's. So, non-believers can't be Heretics per say, because to be a heretic, you must first be part of the church. If that makes any sense.
What system would take its place? meritocracy while unfair in a lot of ways creates more stablity then say letting incompetant people take hold on industry to try and make up for said unfairness that meritocracy creates for example you care about meritocracy when you need surgery from a doctor, you care about meritocracy when it comes to a mechanic fixing the plane thats going to take you home.
I did say that in the end of the video, that we should still care that the people doing important jobs are qualified for their jobs. The video was about how 1) a pure meritocracy is not even achievable because people will always be rewarded for things they didn't earn, but it was also about how 2) we don't even have a meritocracy in the first place. So I actually think a better system could be one that's even closer to being meritocratic, so for instance if we could eliminate nepotism in hiring. But I also think a better system could be one that incorporates non-meritocratic practices, such as UBI. You can have a society that uplifts the lower classes while still maintaining high standards and high pay for complex and important jobs such as doctors and pilots (because for example if every adult gets a $1,000 a month stipend people would still be incentivized to work to make more money to afford luxuries and gain status, and high-paying jobs would still be appealing).
Oh, by the way, "Carceri" is pronounced "car-CARE-ee."
Do you have a source you could link me to?
21:18 now it’s only misandry that’s considered normal and reasonable. Pretty good video
"Ribcage is a town where everyone lives in fear and hatred of their neighbor and conspire to work up the political hierarchy. It seems like a democracy, but everything is rigged by the elites." My man just described every communist country ever.
More long form lore! i’ve been sleeping to these for the last week i’ve run out!!
Me too lol
For some of these descriptions have you tried putting them into an ai generator? It might help getting visuals
I try to avoid using AI art in my videos, though I'm sure some sneak in that I don't notice. When making these videos I search through a ton of google image results, which includes looking at thousands of AI generated images, which actually becomes extremely unpleasant and disturbing, like a bad acid trip. That being said, I have tried generating a few AI images for things that I couldn't find a good image for. I never end up using them though because they have that typical AI art look.
@@WadeAllen001 that's very reasonable, although I'd imagine the abyss to be like a bad acid trip
@@captaincriticize8050 True lol
32:24 ...THANK YOU! I can't stand when people talk about DnD and get into arguments about what's canon and whats not when the idea of homebrew exists and is extremely encouraged and even required in some cases. Honestly I always tell people to pick and choose what is and what isn't canon in relation to whatever game or campaign you're running or talking about. Thats not only to narrow down talking points but also to get rid of the die hard lore masters that can't understand the concept of "everything true but not everything is canon" and vice versa.
I’d like one on the Neutral Good plane!
Muchos gracias. As a dm in study this makes my life much easier.
12:04 it may have helped your case to put in some names of people that got recognized after the grave. Like Vincent, van Gogh, HP Lovecraft, Edgar Allan Poe, Kefka, and Nikola Tesla. There are more. But these people had talent that was onlyv recognized after they died and did. Ot enjoy some of the fruits of their labor. Good video.
I'll never understand the pronunciation junkies who have to leave the commets, "its said like this" Maybe do your own channel and stop being so critical to someone who is actually doing something. Rant over.
THEY DID WHAT IN THE OUTER PLANES??!!
Level 30 player party going to the bottom to get the evil seed would be a crazy campaign
I would make the argument that meritocracy is not suppose to be a fair thing, but a functional thing. Because the opposite of meritocracy is hiring people who are incompetent. Whatever takes people are making, the wind of change will blow you around and you must decide whether you are going to own your life or not.
Would you by any chance have interest in having an amateur linguist's help on some of these videos? I can help on pronunciation of Latin, Greek, and Japanese words. I can also provide you with some interesting facts like that "Oinos" in the Grey Waste's name means "wine" in Greek.
I'm surprised the Book of Vile Darkness didn't have any contribution here.
It's mostly just a book of variant rules, items, spells, feats, and character options. The only parts that would contribute would be the parts on demons and demon lords, but that's only a few pages and also appears in other books (the Book of Vile Darkness only details 5 demon lords while the Fiendish Codex 1 details 14 of them).
I love Sapkowskis writing style and way of shifting the story so many times through so many characters with so many detailed descriptions and small notations it made the whole thing feel more vivid.
I think a "demon lord" is any demon who has EVER conquered a layer. As in, if you ever conquer a layer, you get the title of demon lord, and you keep it even if you later lose the layer.
That's a good take, though there are still demon lords (particularly of Pazunia) who it seems like have never conquered a layer, but are just contenders.
For cripes sakes, the bible is a novel of very bad fiction. That's all it is, a story book.
Truly
I found a sect I missed: the Rosebringers, given just a few sentences (page 124 of the Factol's Manifesto). They're devoted to filling the multiverse with the scent of roses and can often be found in the Hall of Speakers in Sigil.