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How to Shape and Profile Bassoon Cane (MD Profiler, Herzberg Shaper, Herzberg Profiler)
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Video Start
00:12 Profiling with the MD Profiler
03:10 Shaping Cane with the Herzberg Shaper
07:10 Profiling with the Herzberg Profiler
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VIDEO DESCRIPTION:
In this video, LC Double Reeds Co-Founder Conrad Cornelison (Principal Bassoon, Jacksonville Symphony; Bassoon Faculty, University of North Florida) demonstrates how to shape bassoon cane and how to profile bassoon cane with single barrel double barrel profilers.
Intended for students who are new to profiling and shaping, this demonstration serves as a tutorial which covers the basic process behind profiling and shaping bassoon cane for bassoon reed making. We hope you find this video helpful!
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Komentáře

  • @BlakleyBassoon
    @BlakleyBassoon Před 6 měsíci

    I'm not a mummy-man and am thinking of making a video about what I do instead. I KNEW you had a clear and concise mummy video! But I'm curious, why leave the reed wrapped for the duration of the drying process? It would seem that the string would impede drying, but possibly, the cotton may shrink as it dries, adding pressure to keep the tube round. Thoughts?

  • @AndrewCH841
    @AndrewCH841 Před 10 měsíci

    If a knife is really, really blunt, is it a case of just keeping at it? I just spent half an hour trying to sharpen my knife and it still feels like there is no edge on it. :(

  • @BlakleyBassoon
    @BlakleyBassoon Před rokem

    I was just looking this video up for a student and noticed you didn't put your LC Sharpening stones in the video description, they look great!

  • @anniemason9328
    @anniemason9328 Před rokem

    How do you know when you are holding the double hollow ground knife at the correct angle while sharpening on the stone? and also on the steel afterwards?

  • @andrewmart6915
    @andrewmart6915 Před rokem

    Hello. I was trying to search 'basdoon cane blank splitting into theblafe' and found your video. Could my cane be gougedttoo thick as it splits into the blade dvery time. I have soaked and resoaked and formed using boiling water but it still splits. I noticed your reeds seem to be gouged a bit thinner. Could this be the problem? Thankyou

  • @jesseborjas
    @jesseborjas Před 3 lety

    Thank you for this video! I watched this after your how to sharpen a reed knife 101 video and I appreciate the clarity you guys provide.

  • @beCavy
    @beCavy Před 3 lety

    Does the whetstone will give the same results as Diamond stone?

  • @meza5051
    @meza5051 Před 3 lety

    This video is incredibly helpful! I've been looking for some in-depth explanation like this for a while! Thank you so much :D - from a curious oboist

  • @keithbuncke4722
    @keithbuncke4722 Před 3 lety

    Never considered using a single-barrel before using the double-barrel. Great idea!

  • @fervensmortis
    @fervensmortis Před 4 lety

    I'm on of those hardcore knife sharpeners you were talking about and just want to expand my offering for people. I got some questions about the burr you're forming. How heavy of a burr are you forming? Are you stopping as soon as one forms or going beyond that? Does the angle actually matter or are you solely aiming for a thin blade with a consistent burr? This looks like a mix between straight razor sharpening and scraper sharpening to me. You also mentioned designing the beveled knife for ease of sharpening. Are the flats similar to a yanagiba knife with a hollow back? Also, those shapton stone should not be soaked. They are magnesium based and will break down. They're called splash and go stones because you just need to splash them

    • @LCDoubleReeds
      @LCDoubleReeds Před 4 lety

      Hi! Thanks for checking out the video. As far as the burr goes, when sharpening a knife for the specific function of reed-making for double reed instruments, we typically use a heavier burr than one would see in other knife sharpening applications, going slightly beyond the point at which the burr first forms (because of the scraping method and how it is different from typical knife/chisel usage). As you noted, a thin blade with a consistent burr is the most important. The reason we didn't specify a specific angle for the burr is because you get into a grey area of personal preference for how you want the knife to feel when scraping, and the biggest variable for that on a reed knife would be the burr's angle. A sharper angle to the center axis on a knife would create a knife that feels more aggressive when scraping, and vice-versa. There is definitely a lot of room to expand on the topic (especially in a reed maker finding the best angle burr that works for them) which we are considering covering in a future video. Regarding the Beveled knife design - our knife is a true flat-back more akin to a chisel than incorporating the hollow-back Urasuki style that you are referring to. This is typical of most beveled reed knives that are specific to this application. Great question! There are definitely a lot of benefits to the Urasuki/hollow-back design, but that particular design is not common in reed-making and it could potentially make things more complicated, especially for beginner knife sharpeners. With that said, one could choose to raise the angle on the flat side of our knife to effectively create a small version of an asymmetrical flat/compound bevel in the knife's edge. Good note on the controversial Shapton stone soaking issue - as I mentioned in the video, the official recommendation (from Shapton) is that they be soaked prior to their first use, but you don't need to soak them every time. I should have touched on that more in the video/been more clear. In their words: "No, Shapton stones do not need to be soaked except the very first time after purchase. We do recommend that on first use, you pre-soak the stone in water for five to six minutes to secure even smoother sharpening." www.shapton.co.jp/en/faq/ Thanks for the great questions and for stopping by! Hope you enjoyed the video.

    • @fervensmortis
      @fervensmortis Před 4 lety

      Thank you for the very detailed reply. This is very much like sharpening a card scraper for finish work then. Including the burr angle and aggressiveness of the scrape; and burnishing with the steel at the end. I can also see how finer stones suffer more from diminishing returns than in normal knife sharpening. I only mentioned the soaking thing cause I learned it the hard way. I was used to leaving stones in water while I worked with others.

  • @LawrenceRhodes
    @LawrenceRhodes Před 4 lety

    Wondering how you profile cane. I use my own design. The elliptical profiler. www.forrestsmusic.com/profilers.htm This machine always makes a crescent shape center to side which is adjustable from .003" to .010". Can profile bassoon or contra cane.

  • @german.ml93
    @german.ml93 Před 4 lety

    This reminds me Mordechai Rechtman's System SO MUCH! The basic idea is the same: using the conical taper of the bassoon, creating a continuation of the same taper. There's actually a specific mandrel available for this purpose: Rieger model "MR". However, the tip of the mandrel doesn't extend too much into the blades... This is why I ordered a custom made mandrel from Rieger, which looks like your mandrels, except that Rieger mandrels cost 30$ each one. The idea is fantastic because reeds work simply better. Actually, if you insert the mandrel into any reed and fix the whole taper with pliers, the reed improves considerably. I suppose that we were used to employ not-conical mandrels in the past (standard Rieger mandrel) because it's easier to create that "vault" shape that makes the reed work fine. However, that shape can also be created with the trimming (actually, I use a file to sculpt that shape, without taking measurements). I'm glad to have discovered your set of mandrels, because I was considering buying a lot of Rieger custom made mandrels, and that would be quite expensive... I will consider buying them soon. The difficult thing is that I live in Spain. I will have to be prepared for custom duties... Thank you for sharing!

  • @TKD3Bassoon
    @TKD3Bassoon Před 4 lety

    Will this technique work for a knife used for the Kamins/Herzberg tip beveling technique?

    • @LCDoubleReeds
      @LCDoubleReeds Před 4 lety

      Great question! Yes it does work (speaking from experience) but for best results I recommend sharpening with a less aggressive burr (similar angles in both directions, instead of raising the angle significantly) and sharpening it opposite-handedly than you would for regular scraping purposes. It will work either way, but with an opposite-handed burr it will catch better when doing the tip bevel. Changing the handedness of the burr only really works with DHG knives as the geometry of Beveled knives limits you from doing so.

    • @LCDoubleReeds
      @LCDoubleReeds Před 4 lety

      Unless you're ambidextrous, the best way to sharpen opposite-handedly is just to follow the steps of the process but starting with the side facing you when holding the knife , instead of starting with the side facing away from you. Then you can adjust the angles accordingly for the burr you want.

  • @BlakleyBassoon
    @BlakleyBassoon Před 4 lety

    Seriously, these are GREAT! It's so nice to have something that someone put some real thought into. I put in some time comparing dozens of reeds (Herzberg shape) made with the Cornelison pins vs Christlieb pins (which I'm pretty sure are what Herzberg himself used). The Cornelison pins had a clear advantage and consistency and were easier to work with.

  • @burnesbsn
    @burnesbsn Před 4 lety

    Hi LC Double Reeds, great video! Can we purchase these reed cases outside of the USA?

    • @LCDoubleReeds
      @LCDoubleReeds Před 4 lety

      Hi Cameron, as of now we only do direct shipping within the USA (hoping to change that once this Covid-19 crisis passes) but I do believe that several of our distributors offer international shipping! For our list of distributors, go to: www.lcdoublereeds.com/distributors In either case, we'll be sure to make an announcement as soon as international shipping becomes an option! Thanks for stopping by!