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Were pirates gay? On Sodomy in the Age of Pirates
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Gay pirates have pretty much become a trope at this point - homosexual relationships often play a minor or even major part in pirate media. Jack Sparrow is often seen as exhibiting stereotypical homosexual behavior, Our Flag Means Death is a romantic comedy about two homosexual pirates, and most interesting is perhaps Black Sails, which is really about a naval officer scorned from English society for his sexual preferences, and seeking revenge for it. And no doubt you’ve heard the phrase “butt pirate”.
This portrayal is relatively recent, and stands in stark contrast to the traditional presentation of the pirate as a hypermasculine womanizer. It all dates back to the book Sodomy and the Pirate Tradition, written in 1984 by Barry Richard Burg - it seeks to answer the rhetorical question posed in the title of this video, and whilst you might expect to be provided some sort of simple answer, this is simply not possible. Burg even admits this in his book, saying there's not enough documentation from pirate society to do anything but theorize. So instead, this video will more so provide an insight into this period so radically different from our own, and perhaps provide a better understanding of how they might have viewed this very contemporary topic.
Modern sources:
1700: Scenes from London Life - Maureen Waller
Against Nature: Sodomy and Homosexuality in Colonial Latin America - Zeb Tortorici
Escaping court martial for sodomy: Prosecution and its alternatives in the Royal Navy, 1690-1840 - Seth Stein LeJacq
Gotham: A History of New York to 1898 - Edwin G. Burrows & Mike Wallace
Homosexuality and rape of males in Old Norse law and literature - Kari Ellen Gade
Men and Matelotage - Nicole Keegan
Pirates in their own words - E.T Fox
Redefining Sex in Eighteenth-Century England - Tim Hitchcock
Sailors: English merchant seamen, 1650-1755 - Peter Earle
Sodomy and the pirate tradition - B.R Burg
Sodomitical Inclinations in Early Eighteenth-Century Paris - Jeffrey Merrick
Songs of Sodom: Singing About the Unmentionable Vice in the Early Modern Low Countries - Jonas Roelens
"Things Fearful to Name": Sodomy and Buggery in Seventeenth-Century New England - Robert F. Oaks
The Sea-Rover's Practice - Benerson Little
The Transformation of Sodomy from the Renaissance to the Modern World and Its General Sexual Consequences - Randolph Trumbach
Period sources:
Germania - Tacitus
Les us, et coutumes de la mer - Chez Jean Lucas
Sodom, or the Quintessence of Debauchery - John Wilmot
Music by Jon Sayles at jsayles.com
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
6:27 Defining sodomy
14:16 Sodomy in Law and Religion
23:36 Sodomy in the Old World
31:50 Sodomy in the New World
41:51 Sodomy at sea
48:10 Pirates and sodomy
58:15 Pirate gay marriage?
61:52 Conclusion
#pirates #history #lgbtq #pridemonth
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Komentáře

  • @matthewwoods6972
    @matthewwoods6972 Před 19 hodinami

    Rrrrr! We be here to plunder ye booty.

  • @user-mn5zd4iw5z
    @user-mn5zd4iw5z Před 23 hodinami

    skibbity rizz ley your so skibbity your so fanem tax i just took a shart for the rizzler

  • @Dataism
    @Dataism Před dnem

    There was a "neo golden age" of piracy! Cool

  • @YouPwnLikeAGirl
    @YouPwnLikeAGirl Před dnem

    What movie were those scenes from?

  • @elocxv
    @elocxv Před dnem

    This explains a lot….

  • @NomadPTL
    @NomadPTL Před dnem

    I'd give him props for the women and for using what he had access to. You never know what he did before he was captain. Maybe he just wasn't cut out to be captain, maybe he wasn't even interested in the big ships, crazy battles. Maybe he just loved the sea

  • @NomadPTL
    @NomadPTL Před dnem

    Not disagreeing with you but That's such a long time ago he could have done more than what's stated(or less). Some people could have lied not documented stuff, documents could've been lost. Some things could be true but heard from word of mouth and not written down by a souce. Some things could've gotten lost or altered from story to story.

  • @Pootycat8359
    @Pootycat8359 Před dnem

    I believe buggery was much more common & accepted among seamen, than the narrator suggests, due to the famous quote of Admiral Lord Nelson, "Life in the Royal Navy consists of equal portions, of rum, sodomy, and the lash."

    • @monkstery
      @monkstery Před dnem

      lol that’s not even a real Nelson quote, it’s a joke Winston Churchill made

    • @Pootycat8359
      @Pootycat8359 Před dnem

      @@monkstery Shiver me timbers, I've been repeating that quote (with the proper accent, of course) for decades! The Irish folk/rock band, "The Pogues," even produced an album, "Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash." I'll have to check that out: Sir Winston was very knowledgeable concerning history, so I don't think he would have simply made it up!

  • @Pootycat8359
    @Pootycat8359 Před dnem

    Winston Churchill once said, it was impossible to get a conviction for sodomy in an English court, because, "Half the jurors believe the act to be physically impossible, and the other half are doing it."

  • @Pootycat8359
    @Pootycat8359 Před dnem

    14:33 "...[A]nd the choir boys, of course." Ah, there's "Nothing new, under the Sun," as the saying goes!

  • @Pootycat8359
    @Pootycat8359 Před dnem

    Q: WHY couldn't Oscar Wilde have written the "Canterbury Tales"? A: Because, everybody KNOWS, that, "BUGGERS can't be CHAUCERS!"

  • @lloydgush
    @lloydgush Před 2 dny

    They were pirates, they did whatever they wanted and could get away with.

  • @GreatWestern175
    @GreatWestern175 Před 2 dny

    From 17:33 to 19:26 is a topic that Black Lives Matter need some educating on.

  • @TheHallow31
    @TheHallow31 Před 2 dny

    Would you be open to reviewing Netflix's "Lost Pirate Kingdom" docu-series and judging its historical accuracy?

  • @pasoslargos9329
    @pasoslargos9329 Před 2 dny

    People desperately want to project current year values and ideals onto the pirates of the golden age. People like the idea of pirates and they love the idea that they were just like them in their beliefs. The fact is that they were a product of their time and their beliefs and values were those that people of that time held. They weren’t bastions of 21st century morality before it was cool, they were simply outlaws doing outlaw things that they had outlaw justifications for doing.

  • @shawnnbits
    @shawnnbits Před 2 dny

    AXEL?!

  • @shawnnbits
    @shawnnbits Před 2 dny

    What would they douche with?

  • @user-wj1kg8qo3p
    @user-wj1kg8qo3p Před 2 dny

    I was going to say i thought pirates were one of the parts of history where the homosexuality is played up, not down.

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine Před 2 dny

    Sounds like me, fascinated with all subjects, but with a love of action and adventure. Oddly, I am also mostly a loner despite having lots of friends who always chide me being never coming by or answering my phone. I am also an animal lover. He’d have been a good travel companion for me. He’d keep to himself, but once in a while we could chat.

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine Před 2 dny

    In this “movie,” they’re basing Tavor’s speech and love of gold on modern Armenians in the LA area. I live here and have many Armenian friends. They’re also stereotyped as loving to show off gold, black Mercedes and being shady businessmen.

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine Před 2 dny

    The major empires wrangling over Eastern Anatolia and the Northern Levant (from the Byzantines, Ottomans and Crusaders to the Umayyads, Rashiduns, Abbasids) relied on forcing or bribing Armenia to protect their flank or aid in their conquests.

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine Před 2 dny

    _You make videos about pirates, right?_ _Yehsss._ 🗣️💨

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine Před 2 dny

    Is this where the term butt 🏴‍☠️ came from? Edit: You literally addressed that within 15 seconds of the start. And this is an unworthy post for how intelligent your analysis is.

  • @footrot17
    @footrot17 Před 2 dny

    Ew. Ya lost me. Raping cabin boys isn’t gay. It’s rape. Perverts

    • @matthewwyman1581
      @matthewwyman1581 Před dnem

      I mean it is gay rape but most other homosexuals disapprove of it

  • @ryanh4775
    @ryanh4775 Před 2 dny

    I have been a man servant and I've also had man's servants. When is a simple interesting learning experience about life in general the other is simply wonderful to have in hindsight.

  • @Crabby303
    @Crabby303 Před 2 dny

    No mention of bagpiping. boo.

  • @LisaAnn777
    @LisaAnn777 Před 2 dny

    What a coincidence, im drinking his brand right now.

  • @LordLuzbelAlexander

    Big juicy meat for all the sea men.

  • @RyderFlo
    @RyderFlo Před 3 dny

    Nice video as always, pretty original and interesting topic, on a very smaller note as a french i just wanted to say that I appreciate the efforts in the french prononciation and I perfectly understand your english but I'm allowing myself to clarify a little bit the way of spelling "bougre", it's perfeclty fine except for the end, the "e" is'nt prononced "é" or english "a" but is kind of like the american way of saying "u" in "hum" if that can help.

  • @dannydanny2789
    @dannydanny2789 Před 3 dny

    Did gay pirates become a trope nowadays? Looks like I'm way behind the current zeitgeist lol. An interesting topic nevertheless

  • @oldbrokensqueezebox

    Really nice video, sometimes people can speculate and theorize reading so deep into possible evidence for something that they can miss a whole plethora of information and what it might have to offer to the topic at hand. As always you do a great job sharing a lot of information and using it to form a little reasonable speculation which is why I love your videos. 👍

  • @cmbaileytstc
    @cmbaileytstc Před 3 dny

    *Sigh* Why is this an hour video when it could be just as profitably reduced to ONE word- “Sometimes”

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder Před 2 dny

      because the purpose is not to answer the question, any one of my videos can be reduced to less than a minute, but that is not why they're watched

  • @dcim4803
    @dcim4803 Před 3 dny

    Very informative thank you!!

  • @captainorion9756
    @captainorion9756 Před 3 dny

    It’s over an hour long. . .

  • @stcredzero
    @stcredzero Před 3 dny

    Barry Richard Burg was merely projecting about his Barry Richard Bung.

  • @sebastianthomsen2225

    😂👍☠⛵

  • @wowdanalise
    @wowdanalise Před 3 dny

    That rainbow flag has nothing to do with gay pirates. It was originally the sign God gave to Noah, signifying his love for mankind. It was adopted by Zionist groups as a flag to fly over conquered lands and peoples to mock God. Examples of its use in the modern day include the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and the LGBTQIA+ movement.

    • @monkstery
      @monkstery Před 3 dny

      God gave the rainbow itself as a symbol of his covenant, not a rainbow flag. That flag is associated with such groups today and the thumbnail is literally just a meme, the crossbones are boners, calm down.

    • @dannydanny2789
      @dannydanny2789 Před 3 dny

      Funny thing is Jews don't even live in the Jewish autonomous oblast lol.

  • @BeautifulGazelle06
    @BeautifulGazelle06 Před 3 dny

    I feel like showing slavery among pirates in pirate media might honestly be beneficial for storytelling even beyond historical accuracy; if you use pirates as villains then owning slaves would help show how evil they are, and if you use one as a hero maybe you could have your protagonist be an exception to the norm or give them a character arc of being apathetic or pro-slavery and becoming anti slavery over time, making your protagonist more sympathetic to a modern audience (even if it is unrealistic).

  • @conorvaughan9870
    @conorvaughan9870 Před 3 dny

    This is the content we need !! Thank you

  • @Asheanae
    @Asheanae Před 3 dny

    Truly exemplary work!

  • @grungeisdead8998
    @grungeisdead8998 Před 3 dny

    Lmfao 😂 the character of captain jack sparrow never struck me as “gay” or “homosexual”

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder Před 3 dny

      me neither but google "jack sparrow gay" and you'll find all the popular enough opinions you need for evidence

    • @dannydanny2789
      @dannydanny2789 Před 3 dny

      He's flamboyant, but not in a zesty way, more like a pimp or something.

    • @cronykil74
      @cronykil74 Před 2 dny

      There's a bit in the last film where he's encouraging one of the female characters to keep getting undressed, so not sure he is gay. He's probably bi.

    • @JohnSmith-kp7yr
      @JohnSmith-kp7yr Před 2 dny

      @@GoldandGunpowderperverted sodomite redditors casting their perversion onto everything

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder Před 2 dny

      not exactly, Johnny Depp himself was allegedly open to the character being gay before the movie, and Disney were close to cancelling him specifically because he was "too gay"

  • @tatefranklin4761
    @tatefranklin4761 Před 3 dny

    It wasn't mentioned in the video, but the Walloon is a personal favorite of mine. They were lighter basket hilted swords, like the broadsword, with either single or double edged blades depending on the maker. They also had thumb rings and only a back pointing crossguard, with the front of the hand guarded by a pierced shell guard and a thick knuckle bow. One can think of them as a middle ground between the broadsword's defensive virtues and the maneuverability of a well balanced cutlass.

  • @faithlessberserker5921

    They were just prison gay

  • @joeydelrio
    @joeydelrio Před 3 dny

    funny how you put men on a ship, remove all women, men become gay, sail to port, now all the men are having sex with women like normal.

  • @SpoopySquid
    @SpoopySquid Před 3 dny

    Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate 🏳️‍🌈🏴‍☠️

  • @lc1138
    @lc1138 Před 3 dny

    Hey ! If I may add an ingredient to your already very honourable pronounciation of french words : the final e is mute, unless it's a é. "Bougre" can be read "bougr". Generally speaking, the last letter of a word is mute, or can at most transform the pronounciation of the second-to-last. These letters generally an artifact from the latin or germanic roots of the word. For instance, the sentence "j'ai raté" ("I missed") would have the final e pronounced exactly as you did with "bougre" in the video. (wich would read "bougré", which is a form I don't think it existed.) Whereas in "je rate" ("I miss", or "I'm missing") "rate" would be pronounced almost exactly like the english "rat". (The final t sounds.) (And of course, "rat" in french (the classic rodent) would be pronounced "ra" like the egyptian god. Unless you name him Rê, or Ré but I'm out of my depth here.) You've already got it totally accurate for Olivier Levasseur ("Olivier" = "olivié" and "Levasseur" with the final r pronounced. Yeah the "r" is an exception to the generality above. Yeah I know my language is not intended to be read at all. Only makes me appreciate your efforts even more. It would take me a big time to get as fluent in Swedish as you are in French) (And of course I'm speaking about modern french. If you have any specific information about it being different in old french, I'm eager to learn :p )

  • @triangleman9997
    @triangleman9997 Před 3 dny

    Butt pirates are first recorded in the golden years of pirates. Keep researching.

  • @iainmelville9411
    @iainmelville9411 Před 3 dny

    As we say here in Australia, “ Well, I’ll be bugged!”

  • @MuddieRain
    @MuddieRain Před 3 dny

    😂🤡😂🤡🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @charlesswenson259
    @charlesswenson259 Před 3 dny

    That's just a theory. A gay theory. Lol. I see what you did there. I'm telling Matt Pat!