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It's not a joke. My Mac Plus was dark brown/orange. Sat out in the sun for a week. Now it's beige. No chemicals whatsoever. A year later and it's still beige. Why did the sun turn it yellow at first, and why does the sun take the yellow out 30 years later? I won't even pretend to understand the science behind it or why it does that. But even to my own amazement, it worked.

@@rebootretro Does it make a difference if it's behind a window?

Yes, I had a very similar experience. I found doing "power user" stuff very difficult on Mac, and very cumbersome. As I need to do less of that sort of stuff on my daily driver in modern days, I find Mac is ok now because I generally only need functionality "permitted" within the walled garden. Although I always have other systems hanging around for times when I need to do "heavy lifting" and testing type tasks. But these days, for web browsing, graphic work, writing, taking notes, Mac works just fine. I've always thought Apple should put an "easy mode" switch inside their operating systems - that you could go from "locked down" easy mode to fully unlocked advanced mode with every option available.

No, you can't connect USB A to C. You can use AirPlay over WiFi, but on a 2013 model AirPlay Receiver is disabled by default. On a 2013 you must enable AirPlay Receiver, which should be possible by installing OpenCore and upgrading to Mac OS Monterey or newer. If you want to use the iMac as your main display and do not need secondary display, you can use Sunshine/Moonlight method or Parsec (Parsec works like Sunshine/Moonlight in the video, but is easier to set up especially on Mac).

I think out of the ones shown, only Sunshine/Moonlight method would work for a 2015 iMac (possibly AirPlay method would work too, but only if the iMac was running OpenCore and modded). You might also consider trying Parsec. Parsec works like Sunshine/Moonlight, but is easier to set up with Mac to Mac. It is important to know that Parsec requires an internet connection to work (even if using LAN, it requires internet for sign-in), while Sunshine/Moonlight can work entirely local. Hope this helps!

@@toddmcgowan9449 Haha, amazing!! No subscription, no cloud -> the way to go!

It depends which method you are using. Target Display does not work on 2015 and newer iMacs, and the AirPlay method doesn't work on stock 2015 Macs without OpenCore mods (Apple blocks the feature, but most hardware support it if unlocked with the mod). If you are using Sunshine/Moonlight (or alternatively Parsec which is easier to set up on Mac), that should work fine with a 2015 iMac and M3 MacBook.

Yes, you can (and should) upgrade to an SSD which will give you substantial performance improvements. If possible, you should try upgrading to 8GB RAM (this will depend on your specific model). And you can do the OpenCore patch to install a newer version of Mac OS. I made a video here where I upgraded a 2008 Core 2 Duo iMac to Mac OS Monterey: czcams.com/video/_a2utQaO_Gs/video.html

You really need to either work for, or have a relationship with a company that processes ewaste. Some places will sell you parts if you ask, but most will not. Most of the time you need to build a relationship with a place that does. And almost always you still need to pay for it, but generally it's extremely cheap in relation to buying online. They paid either nothing, or almost nothing for ewaste (and some places even got PAID to take it!) - so if they make a few bucks off you its an easy profit for them, and great value for you. But I say you need a relationship, because most places don't want random people off the street in their facility, so they need to know and trust you beforehand.

Any Intel CPU will work if it is supported by motherboard, even if it was originally from a Windows PC. The same Intel CPUs are used in Mac and PC computers, the Mac cannot tell if the CPU was originally in a Windows PC. It will work in Mac or in Boot Camp fine. On a Mac Pro you can install any GPU from a Windows PC and it should work in Boot Camp (but you will loose the startup Apple boot screen). On an iMac, it depends - because of how the internal screen is wired to the GPU. Some might work, others might need a custom vBIOS (like in the video). Although if you're running Boot Camp only, I'm not sure if you can skip the custom vBIOS... That is a good question!

@@rebootretro i have like a 2014 or smth imac and it is fucking terrifying seeing videos of ppl opening im scared i would break it lol

@@Sigmaskibid The 2012 and newer have soldered GPUs which can't be upgraded. Some also have soldered CPUs, which can't be upgraded. But on a 2014 CPU/GPU isn't your biggest issue. Your biggest issue will be the very slow mechanical hard drive. Upgrading to an SSD will make it way faster than any CPU/GPU/RAM upgrade will. If you don't want to open it up, you can have the hard drive hooked up to external USB. External is not ideal and you loose some performance, but should still be much faster than the built-in mechanical drive.

@@rebootretro i think ill just.... wait to get older till i can get a job and get a windows pc

It is somewhat of a bizarre design/engineering choice (the way the motherboard is configured), but it does look pretty cool!

Your Dell server will also run circles around this Mac Pro, lol. Yup, most x86/64 stuff you can squeeze quite a bit of useful life out of! And even if ARM takes over the market, I don't see Linux support dropping any time soon.

The Mac Minis are a pretty good value - the cheapest way to get a current model Mac. I've thought about it too, but I'm waiting until a day when I can't upgrade what I have any longer :)

@@rebootretro Yes, exactly! I’ve already got the Apple Magic Keyboard, Magic Trackpad, and a 27-inch Apple Thunderbolt Display from late 2011 hooked up to my 16-inch MacBook Pro from late 2019. But I totally agree, it would be even better with a Mac mini! The Mac mini is perfect for a home server, and I can use my MacBook Pro to access it for Time Machine backups and other server needs. I really wish I could get my hands on a 2020 or earlier iMac because I’m just not a fan of the new design!

@@kalvinluv I’m not affiliated with the OpenCore team, but yes they do amazing work!!! I just make videos, which help people understand the Docs easier :)

@@unknownblueblue I’m pretty sure it works with Sonoma, other people claim it does. I eventually plan to upgrade this Mac to Sonoma and will make a video when I do.

@@rebootretro thank you very much, do you think this card is better than a k1000m?

@@unknownblueblue Bechmarks show the M5100 to be faster. But I didn't care about speed, I wanted native Metal support. The M5100 has official Apple drivers (at least on Monterey). I believe all Nvidia cards require modified drivers. I'm not sure if Nvidia cards work at all anymore on Sonoma, you should double check before using Nvidia. Good luck with your upgrade project! :)

@@rebootretro thank you again, I bought the card today in 10 days probabily i'll receive it and if everything works i'll come here to tell :)

i'm here again to say it worked very well on mac os sonoma, did the open core patch, i downloaded opencore to my system and just did the patch at first it showed only 14mb but after the patch worked it recognize the 2gb from the gpu thanks for the video again

That's a very good point about parts being hard to find. The LCD is destroyed on so many levels, but the other components potentially could be salvageable. Maybe the lack of POST had something to do with the keyboard being disconnected; maybe that's why it only POSTed the first time and then never again.

Are you 100% sure the post-install patches were successful? Do you have graphics acceleration working (graphics smooth, not laggy and choppy)? Which iMac model exactly do you have? Can you check the System Profiler to find the WiFi card model? I will try to help as much as I can.

​@@rebootretro Thank you for your response. I own an Imac 8,1, which is a 20-inch model from 2008. The graphics card is an ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro MB. Memory: 4 GB of 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM The processor name is Intel Core 2 Duo. I could not find the wifi card model, and I also looked it up, but you might think that the RAM is 4 GB instead of 2? Idk, because I bought it from Marktplaats, so I dont know if the owner before me upgraded it or not. I also forgot to subscribe, so I just did it now.

You would want to use the Sunshine/Moonlight method shown in the video.

ALL the software that you use uses GitHub directly or indirectly

Makes me curious how well it would work behind a window…

Any idea what dimentions shim and thickniss?

AirPlay/AirDrop is still available, but some newer versions (particularly if you're installing unsupported via OpenCore) of Mac OS require newer wireless cards in order for it to work. I'll be doing a future video about the AirDrop/AirPlay upgrade on a 2009.

@@rebootretro so hard ware is require 🤔 My iMac is 2011 mid,running macOS High Sierra now. I saw that AirPlay and AirDrop needs iMac 2014 or later. So if we want to use these function, no matter which macOS is, hardware is still require, too right?

@@hey_siri._. Sorry, it looks like I was wrong - According to Apple you need at least a 2012 model for AirDrop officially (without upgrades/patches). It is possible on a 2011, but you need either a WiFi/Bluetooth upgrade, Mac OS upgrade/ patch, or both.

You can use official Target Display over Thunderbolt cable, according to Apple's docs: support.apple.com/en-us/105126 It looks like your 2012 iMac must be running High Sierra or older, and your 2017 must be running Catalina or older. Although Apple says such things for the 2009 model, which absolutely works with new versions, so it might be worth testing regardless. Alternatively, you can use the Sunshine/Moonlight method in the video (also works with Parsec - which is easier to set up on Mac). There is also a product called Luna Display which is a little dongle you use on one Mac, then run an app on the other Mac to use as an external display. I've not used this product personally, but it looks to be reputable IMO. It costs money, but seems a little more polished that some other methods. The easiest free option though is probably setting up Parsec on both computers.

@@rebootretro Thanks... I will give it a try and come back with the results. You are most kind.

Yes, for a 2017 iMac as a screen for PC, you would use Sunshine/Moonlight method. If you are using 2017 iMac as a screen for another Mac, you can use AirPlay (less smooth video, but easy setup) or you can use Sunshine/Moonlight, or Parsec. Parsec works like Sunshine/Moonlight, but is easier to set up on Mac.

That combo doesn't support direct connection. But you can do it by using Sunshine/Moonlight. Parsec would also work, and is easier to set up when connecting Mac to Mac. Basically you run Sunshine/Parsec server on the Mac Mini, and then you use the iMac with Moonlight/Parsec client as the viewer.

lol, yes! You'd have to buy a bunch of stuff you didn't want in order to get a deal on the stuff you did want! I definitely ended up with some random extras that way.

For a 2011, it depends on what you're connecting it to. If you connect it to a Windows PC, then Sunshine/Moonlight would probably be ideal. If you're connecting it to an older Mac, you might be able to use Target Display. Connecting it to a newer Mac, you'll likely need Sunshine/Moonlight or Parsec (Parsec can be easier for Mac to Mac connection).

@@rebootretro Oh okay, I'll have a look thank you

Hey, we need a way to sound cool in front of the "normies".

Did you do the Monterey upgrade already and it became slow AFTER the upgrade? Or is it too slow and you want to upgrade it? If you have not done any upgrades yet, it would be best to do: 1. Upgrade original hard drive to an SSD (makes HUGE speed improvement!) 2. Have at least (or upgrade) to 8GB RAM 3. Use OpenCore to update to a modern Mac OS version The SSD upgrade will make it insanely faster even without upgrading anything else.

Got same problem never been up graded got it as gift from friend was wondering if u know y don't come on was on befor now struggles

I know, the hardware is very capable of running it. Apple software is the limitation. The problem is Apple sells more computers when they stop updating old ones. Unfortunately, its always about money $$$. At least there is OpenCore :)

@@rebootretro If OpenCore would be runned by Apple it would be more efficient and better. Also if Apple would support older hardware it would give better reputation to Apple!

I finally decided to restard the mac with safe mode.I saw in propertises that the AMD card was detected. Size of memory was OK (2gb) but not the name (AMD RADEON 7XXX) I think that the legacy patch is not OK. It decided to desinstalled the leagacy patch. Reeboot: No pb, no crash but the card is not detected correctly. So the pb is legacy patch and i saw in the documentation this: Following GPUs are applicable: GPU Architecture Model Families Supported AMD Polaris RX 4xx/5xx (10/20 series) Supported with patching AMD Vega Vega 56/64/VII (10/20 series) AMD Navi RX 5xxx/6xxx (10/20 series) Unsupported Is AMD M5100 compatible with open leagacy / Ventura ?

Yes, it should support Ventura. The M5100 is a GCN 1.0 card, which is officially supported on Ventura via the OCLP v0.5.0, so make sure your OCLP version is new enough. I've also experienced issues if the system was previously patched for legacy graphics (stock Radeon HD card) and then upgraded the card. The best way is to swap in a new hard drive (or fully wipe), install fresh, and apply the OCLP post-install patches with the M5100 installed. The patcher should see that the stock card isn't there and skip those patches, and install the GCN 1.0 patches instead. I believe restoring from Time Machine will restore the previous GPU patched system. If you can't do a fresh system install and need to retain the existing system, you can try restoring Time Machine and then doing an in-place reinstall of Mac OS to restore the OS to stock but retain personal data. Bottom line, if the system is patched in ANY way for the stock Radeon HD, it can cause problems for the GCN 1.0 cards. Fully wiped/fresh OS + OCLP 0.5.0 or later should resolve it. If you get video out using the iMac's internal LCD, I suspect your vBIOS is fine. I don't have experience specifically with Ventura, but I will try to help if you post back with questions. Good luck!

Thanks for your response. I really appreciate your attention to questions. I will let you know as soon as I have realized all this. It takes time, it’s not so easy to learn all these concepts but it’s exiting to bring these incredible IMac to life. Sincerly yours.

Small question, you told that the best way is to erase my main hdd ? The risk is that i will no longer able to boot from a usb let to reinstall after (since i have the new gpu, i cant choose the boot with option key) thanks

@@agfo91 Yes, that is a risk for sure. If you have the original GPU, you could install it temporarily if you run into trouble. Or, a better option for testing, install a different blank hard drive. If the hard drive is fully blank, EFI "should" choose the USB stick as boot device even if the hard drive is normally default. Both options would work for me because I have lots of spare parts, but I don't know what spare parts you have on-hand.

Thats excellent! TBH, the 12GB RAM is probably more than plenty for general use - I can't stress enough how overkill I went with 32GB, lol. If you want to run more modern OSes, I'd recommend the GPU upgrade (I show it here czcams.com/video/n9koG8p9Ch0/video.html) since it brings Metal support for modern apps to work properly. Also, if you want the full modern Mac experience, you can also upgrade the WiFi card to bring back AirDrop, AirPlay receiver, etc. I will be doing the WiFi upgrade in an upcoming video! :)